Looking at this ka-t

[rage941]

Just looking for the expert's opinions on this trade.

Here's what I drive now
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/332406-fs-ft-97-impreza-w-full-wrx-swap.html
As you can see I was asking $7500 for it. It is fast and reliable. Ran a 13.69 at the track. No AC.

I am looking at trading for this.

Fully built KA has about 1k. Rebuilt professionally by XAT Racing
Brand new garrett t3/t4 turbo
Arias pistons
Eagle rods
248 s13 exhaust cams
Brand new autozone miata gold battery(3 year warranty).
Rom tuned ecu
Front mount intercooler
Full stainless cat-back
Aluminum 1-piece driveshaft
Koni yellow shocks with eibach springs
Full body kit
JDM kouki spoiler
Peak performance tranny mount
Poly race motor mounts
Stage 5 Competition clutch
565cc subaru sti injectors
Nismo fuel pressure regulator
Full interior (8.5 outta 10)
Power steering
Freezing cold air conditioning
I know there's more but that's all i can think of off the top of my head.
Only thing the car needs is a paint job.

Pics
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d189/fun2drive95
/123.jpg (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vaTM1LnBob3RvYnVja2V0LmNvbS9hbGJ1bXMvZD E4OS9mdW4yZHJpdmU5NS8xMjMuanBn)
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d189/fun2drive95
/1123.jpg (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vaTM1LnBob3RvYnVja2V0LmNvbS9hbGJ1bXMvZD E4OS9mdW4yZHJpdmU5NS8xMTIzLmpwZw==)

What do you think his car is worth?
Fair trade? Anything suspicious about that car that I may not be picking up on?

[Serebros]

just keep the impreza and fix the ac, get a new compressor and lines if u have too

buying any car that is extremely modded is risky, read everything sakura said, buy a nice car man, not a modded 240

dont buy it

[rage941]

just keep the impreza and fix the ac, get a new compressor and lines if u have too

buying any car that is extremely modded is risky, read everything sakura said, buy a nice car man, not a modded 240

dont buy it
Who is sakura and what did he say?

[fckillerbee]

Just looking for the expert's opinions on this trade.

Here's what I drive now
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/332406-fs-ft-97-impreza-w-full-wrx-swap.html
As you can see I was asking $7500 for it. It is fast and reliable. Ran a 13.69 at the track. No AC.

I am looking at trading for this.

Fully built KA has about 1k. Rebuilt professionally by XAT Racing
Brand new garrett t3/t4 turbo
Arias pistons
Eagle rods
248 s13 exhaust cams
Brand new autozone miata gold battery(3 year warranty).
Rom tuned ecu
Front mount intercooler
Full stainless cat-back
Aluminum 1-piece driveshaft
Koni yellow shocks with eibach springs
Full body kit
JDM kouki spoiler
Peak performance tranny mount
Poly race motor mounts
Stage 5 Competition clutch
565cc subaru sti injectors
Nismo fuel pressure regulator
Full interior (8.5 outta 10)
Power steering
Freezing cold air conditioning
I know there's more but that's all i can think of off the top of my head.
Only thing the car needs is a paint job.

Pics
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d189/fun2drive95
/123.jpg (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vaTM1LnBob3RvYnVja2V0LmNvbS9hbGJ1bXMvZD E4OS9mdW4yZHJpdmU5NS8xMjMuanBn)
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d189/fun2drive95
/1123.jpg (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vaTM1LnBob3RvYnVja2V0LmNvbS9hbGJ1bXMvZD E4OS9mdW4yZHJpdmU5NS8xMTIzLmpwZw==)

What do you think his car is worth?
Fair trade? Anything suspicious about that car that I may not be picking up on?

don't buy it...dudes a liar.....car also needs some dope wheels.

[rage941]

don't buy it...dudes a liar.....car also needs some dope wheels.
What's he lying about?

[cc4usmc]

Only thing the car needs is a paint job

don't buy it...dudes a liar.....car also needs some dope wheels.

What's he lying about?

See the bolded text in the text he was quoting from the guy with the s14

[rage941]

See the bolded text in the text he was quoting from the guy with the s14
Ohh got it. When I bought the impreza he told me all it needs is a paint job, and he was right.

But still

Who is sakura and what did he say?

[fckillerbee]

Ohh got it. When I bought the impreza he told me all it needs is a paint job, and he was right.

But still

lol....you don't have it.....car has stock wheels....in the "zilvia" community....it would need wheels before it needed a motor. lol.......no worries...your coming from nasioc where everyone is nice...I was once there. lol

[iamtheyi]

lol... just keep your gc8. I would get a super cheap 240 and build it myself. It's safer that way :P. Keep your WRX as a daily.

[thenooblet]

yea keep the impreza and do what he said^^

[rage941]

lol....you don't have it.....car has stock wheels....in the "zilvia" community....it would need wheels before it needed a motor. lol.......no worries...your coming from nasioc where everyone is nice...I was once there. lol
Lol actually I'm never on nasioc. I'm on 300zxclub. But who gives a shit, I can get some wheels. Getting wheels are easier than building a motor. And if the motor was done by the shop he's saying, I've only heard good things about that shop.

lol... just keep your gc8. I would get a super cheap 240 and build it myself. It's safer that way :P. Keep your WRX as a daily.
Don't have money to insure 2 cars. Or to even build one.


I just want more power and RWD :)
I'll probably check this thing out in person soon.

[iamtheyi]

lol dont insure. register as non-op. then slowly build one. It's not about doing it all at once. If you really like cars, like most of us on here (especially our 240's :P) You'll enjoy every step of the process. Everytime you buy a new part and put it on its like Christmas... For me at least ><

[unlegendary]

what do you plan on doin with that car? street race? touge battle?

[93nismo]

lol dont insure. register as non-op. then slowly build one. It's not about doing it all at once. If you really like cars, like most of us on here (especially our 240's :P) You'll enjoy every step of the process. Everytime you buy a new part and put it on its like Christmas... For me at least ><


lol its like christmas for me when i get something as simple as the ring that hold the shift boot on. i love new parts.

id keep the impreza if i were you. but that might be because i love them. if you want a 240 just buy a cheap one and enjoy making it yours. even if you don't have the money for it(like me) collect the parts and keep em in your basement until you've got everything and put it together. that's what im doing. i like being able to say i did it all on my own too though. in the end its all up to you and what you'd rather drive.

[rage941]

Well the problem with that is I don't want a 240 THAT bad lol. 240s aren't my passion. I'm just looking to hop into one that is already built and have fun until I have money to own a dd and build up my true dream car...a TT Z32. That is my love and passion. I just keep telling myself I'll build one in the future when I have money. But for now I'm just looking for something to have fun in that already has everything done to it that I would usually do if I had the money. I know, sounds lame, but when you're broke it benefits to buy something with the money already dumped into it by someone else.

I guess I'm mainly looking for you guys opinion on the car itself, not whether I should buy it based on opinions of what car is cooler, my car or his. Any red flags you guys see with the car? Anything a noob wouldn't spot? Should I avoid KA-Ts? Stuff like that.

[FusionR240sx]

u don't want to build a ttZ32 unless u got mad bank. i bought one and started ordering shit for mine.. then realized how much i was about to waste. sold it and got a s14, still wasted money, but not even nearly half of what i planned with the z32.

great looking car, can find better performing cars with less money.
especially with the value the car holds, i wouldn't look into getting one unless u were building it from the ground up, which is actually cheaper then buying a running ttz32 for 10k

[rage941]

I owned an NA Z for a few years and I've been on the forums and such since '07 so I'm familiar with what it takes. Still want to do it :) When it comes to japanese sports cars of the 90s...It's still cheaper than an FD rx7 or a mk4 supra and let's face it, 3000gts are lame. Really the only alternative to the Z would be an S14, and while I like them very much, I would never be "complete" owning one.

[iamtheyi]

lol if that's the case.. keep the subie. Dont get a 240. If you get a 240 and dont have the passion for it... G_G. you're constantly gonna be pissed off.

and also IMHO, if that KA-T isn't one of the more well-known people on KA-T.org or Jeff from Zilvia (forgot his Zilvia sn ><. He's one of the moderators) I wouldn't take it. Too many things could go wrong.
1. might not be built. Let's face it, you really want to take apart the block and head to see if he's legit? might as well build your own...
2. Shitty tune will blow that thing sky high.
3. overall quality of parts in general.
Just get your Z31 if that's what your car. i still love my s14 though :]

[FTWjesse]

keep the subie. i regret getting rid of mine... i had a very similar car to yours

[97240TB]

Keep the Impreza and buy a rolling chassis build from the ground up how you want it! Don't fall into a trap with some already built car that could be a giant disaster waiting to happen.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/nick718887/Admiral-Ackbar-trap.jpg

[rage941]

lol if that's the case.. keep the subie. Dont get a 240. If you get a 240 and dont have the passion for it... G_G. you're constantly gonna be pissed off.

and also IMHO, if that KA-T isn't one of the more well-known people on KA-T.org or Jeff from Zilvia (forgot his Zilvia sn ><. He's one of the moderators) I wouldn't take it. Too many things could go wrong.
1. might not be built. Let's face it, you really want to take apart the block and head to see if he's legit? might as well build your own...
2. Shitty tune will blow that thing sky high.
3. overall quality of parts in general.
Just get your Z31 if that's what your car. i still love my s14 though :]
Well I know what kind of problems could come with a 240 or any old car, and I can deal with that. As I said I love s14s, it's just not my ultimate car I see myself keeping forever. And btw it's not Z31s I like it's Z32s. Big difference ;)


if that KA-T isn't one of the more well-known people on KA-T.org or Jeff from Zilvia (forgot his Zilvia sn ><. He's one of the moderators) I wouldn't take it. Too many things could go wrong.
1. might not be built. Let's face it, you really want to take apart the block and head to see if he's legit? might as well build your own...
2. Shitty tune will blow that thing sky high.
3. overall quality of parts in general.

See now THAT'S the kind of feedback I was looking for.

[rage941]

I didn't really read indepth through all this, but... XAT went under a while back bro, I'm not sure what this d00d is tellin you but if XAT built that engine it probably has more miles on it then he's letting on.... Keep the Impreza and buy a rolling chassis build from the ground up how you want it! Don't fall into a trap with some already built car that could be a giant disaster waiting to happen.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i315/nick718887/Admiral-Ackbar-trap.jpg
I know they went under, he told me it was "built by XAT before they went out". How long ago was that though? So I can judge the miles..

[97240TB]

Oh god... Uhm, years ago I believe... Like over a year ago AT THE LEAST!

[DreEzed]

Don't do it. You don't want someones headache. From experience I bought an already built Corolla and regretted it. I sold it got and stock s13 and built it. Its great when you know whats wrong with your car and you know what to fix.

[ixfxi]

here is my advice

your impreza sucks, it looks typical and therefore its ugly. i hate those fucking cars. but, at least its YOURS so keep the fucking shitheap and drive it - thats why you own it.

the s14 the guy is trying to trade/sell/whatever sucks, it looks typical and therefore its ugly. i fucking hate stupid 240 owners who do entry-level modifications and then put it up for sale thinking they can trade one shitty horse for a slightly less shitty horse.




oh, and as for the z32 - thats a fucking crackhead PIPE dream. you should never own a z32. why? because in my many years of business and life, all of the people who've owned Z-cars have been fucking CURSED. it seems that only few people have the ability to avoid the curse, maybe they sleep with a garlic necklace and a silver dagger.. i dunno. but pay attention and you'll notice that EVERY Z owner ends up paying through the ayse-hole for a million parts, labor, and their projects rarely materialize. you'll need maybe 10 years MINIMUM to build a Z with a proper budget.. and you'll still end up with over 100k down the tubes and a shitty 300ZX with peter-north style t-tops in the end.


my advice? save your money and buy a gtr. at least these exist and by the time you save your money, you'll be able to afford one. (minus the maintenance, but thats another story)

end

[rage941]

^^^lol is this guy serious?

[iamtheyi]

no clue... let's hope not.

[Z32TT-R]

oh, and as for the z32 - thats a fucking crackhead PIPE dream. you should never own a z32. why? because in my many years of business and life, all of the people who've owned Z-cars have been fucking CURSED. it seems that only few people have the ability to avoid the curse, maybe they sleep with a garlic necklace and a silver dagger.. i dunno. but pay attention and you'll notice that EVERY Z owner ends up paying through the ayse-hole for a million parts, labor, and their projects rarely materialize. you'll need maybe 10 years MINIMUM to build a Z with a proper budget.. and you'll still end up with over 100k down the tubes and a shitty 300ZX with peter-north style t-tops in the end.



Your one of the biggest idiots to comment, keep to yourself from now on and save yourself the trouble of looking like a complete moron.

OP keep the wrx, i think they told you to keep it on 3zc also, you will regret it goin for this 240.

[510-SR20DET]

nobody sell their car if it's only need paint. trust me.

[irax]

the impreza is nice, and finding a two door is even harder

that s14 is a dime a dozen. it looks alright, and has an ok motor. but that impreza will keep its value a lot better than the 240.

[quach]

Well the problem with that is I don't want a 240 THAT bad lol. 240s aren't my passion. I'm just looking to hop into one that is already built and have fun until I have money to own a dd and build up my true dream car...a TT Z32. That is my love and passion. I just keep telling myself I'll build one in the future when I have money.

It's really funny that you said that because I just checked out this thread, saw your car, and thought "I would consider trading my z32 TT for that thing." Too bad you're in Florida though :rolleyes:

[rage941]

quach your PM box is full!

[cloud9drift]

keep & clean up your gc8..

[s13_808]

lol... just keep your gc8. I would get a super cheap 240 and build it myself. It's safer that way :P. Keep your WRX as a daily.

yup:coolugh:

[theboy]

im a ka-t person and im telling you to stay away. for the price of your suby, you can get a much more reliable sr20'd 240. That ka-t is going to cause nothing but headaches if its not a car you love. if it were me id keep the suby and start saving for z32 shell. then build it the way you want it

[rage941]

So even if I had a shop build me a ka-t with CP pistons, eagle rods, bc cams, greddy valve springs, bc retainers and a bored and honed block and had all moving parts balanced you would say stay away?

[I LUV MY S13]

So even if I had a shop build me a ka-t with CP pistons, eagle rods, bc cams, greddy valve springs, bc retainers and a bored and honed block and had all moving parts balanced you would say stay away?


I think the point people are trying to make is that your better off building your own car for numerous reasons. 1, its your parts, your work and there is no greater satisfaction than that. 2, only you will really know what the car has/will go through. 3, you can build it to your prefferance at ease.

This guy can say it has 1k on the motor all day, but he really cant prove it. reciepts, paperwork, shops, none of that can tell you what the car has actually gone through.

either way man good luck

[rage941]

Ok guys still bored with my car, so I found this.
1990 sr20det 240sx (http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/1979026907.html)

I know I know, the subie is more rare and "cool" than a 240sx, but let's face it my car has a stock engine/turbo/ic/injectors with 105,000 miles. The s13 has a fully built engine. The guys says hes a Nissan (master iirc) tech and he has receipts/paper work for all of the parts and pics along the way, as you can see in the ad.
I'm on the fence about it...what do you guys think about this one?
You think that'd be a fair straight trade?

[kamilitaryman]

Don't trade your Subie dude! Especially with the guy in your last link. Any douchebag that uses the keywords below to sell 1 CAR should fucking die in a fire:

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really? really??!??!!?!?1

[OBEEWON]

Buy it if you like explosions.

[daftphunk]

Well I say keep your GC8 but you're so convinced on getting rid of it or trading it.. If you want to build something properly sell your car and use the funds to get something that you will like then. You are asking for $7500 for your GC8.. that SR20 S13 is not worth 7gs IMO.

The KA-T is going to give you headaches and I would mess with one unless I knew it was properly built or did it myself.

[rage941]

Buy it if you like explosions.
why?

Well I say keep your GC8 but you're so convinced on getting rid of it or trading it.. If you want to build something properly sell your car and use the funds to get something that you will like then. You are asking for $7500 for your GC8.. that SR20 S13 is not worth 7gs IMO.

The KA-T is going to give you headaches and I would mess with one unless I knew it was properly built or did it myself.
I guess I over estimate s chassis. He has a lot of money worth of parts on that car, and it's still not worth shit?

But it's hard to build something myself without having a daily driver....so once I put out the money for a (reliable) daily, that doesn't leave much to work with. Then you add the fact that I go to school full time and have a job...

Like you said, I am pretty convinced I don't want it anymore. It definitely is a great car, and is fun but I just really really want rwd again. Trust me, if I could keep it and still get something rwd, I would definitely do it.

OH YEAH, also I reallllllllllllly REALLY really. REEEEEALLY want something easier to work on. I lost all patience for working on cars after owning a Z32. The engine bay of the subie can be hard to work around sometimes, and it has more complications than a bare bones s13/14. I mean changing spark plugs is probably going to be a 1-2 hour ordeal, and you need special tools and shit. And it has a leaking valve cover gasket and I just haven't even been able to fix it because it's going to be tough to get to the valve cover (I have to remove things; air box, windshield washer fluid res., battery) then it will still be tough to get to the bolts. And with this as my daily it's hard to find time to fuck around with stuff like that.

Now I know a 240sx will need work too, but that's why I'm looking at ones with built engines, new regular maintenance parts etc...and hopefully when they break it will be easier/quicker to fix.

[Sleepy_Steve]

He has a lot of money worth of parts on that car, and it's still not worth shit?

The parts on the car don't contribute to its value.

1 - they're used.
2 - they could have been bought used, and are now double used and double abused.
3 - look at that car! do you really think there is anything NICE on it?

But it's hard to build something myself without having a daily driver....so once I put out the money for a (reliable) daily, that doesn't leave much to work with. Then you add the fact that I go to school full time and have a job...

Like you said, I am pretty convinced I don't want it anymore. It definitely is a great car, and is fun but I just really really want rwd again. Trust me, if I could keep it and still get something rwd, I would definitely do it.

Then buy a beater, and have an affordable project car. I was so much happier struggling through a failed turbo project on my 240 once I got a $450 beater when I was in school it was shocking. And if you wanna keep something a one night stand, just drive her home in the beater in the morning after you've had your fun. :w00t:

OH YEAH, also I reallllllllllllly REALLY really. REEEEEALLY want something easier to work on. I lost all patience for working on cars after owning a Z32. The engine bay of the subie can be hard to work around sometimes, and it has more complications than a bare bones s13/14. I mean changing spark plugs is probably going to be a 1-2 hour ordeal, and you need special tools and shit. And it has a leaking valve cover gasket and I just haven't even been able to fix it because it's going to be tough to get to the valve cover (I have to remove things; air box, windshield washer fluid res., battery) then it will still be tough to get to the bolts. And with this as my daily it's hard to find time to fuck around with stuff like that.

Now I know a 240sx will need work too, but that's why I'm looking at ones with built engines, new regular maintenance parts etc...and hopefully when they break it will be easier/quicker to fix.


If you want something cheap and easy to work on, then get a 240. But don't get a dirty slut of a car like that KA-T in the OP. Get something clean you can control the build quality on. Too many people use 240's as what i like to call 'practice-cars' before they can afford nice things, and as a result you see a lot of 'built' motors that are more than a little suspect. I think DSM's suffer much the same problem.

[badbob2121]

dude in the end its YOUR car, YOU have to drive it everyday, YOU have to pay the bills, and YOU have to deal with possibly making a bad trade

go drive some of these cars, research more about what you are buying, dont trust the seller, and if you like it more.... then trade... simple as that

good luck