What do you think about 350z's?

[Turbo Nismo]

Hi guys, I have an S14 and I love it, but I also like 350z's. I want to know their pros and cons of them. If their parts are expensive or cheap, if the mechanic is easy to work with, if they are comfortable, etc. I want to know if they are worth or not. A couple of days ago a senior person offered me 8k for mine, but idk what to do because I still haven't finished it and I want to turbo it and do a couple of stuff more. What do you think guys?

[EDacIouSX]

I think a 350z is not an attractive car.

[shiftdrift]

stock they are decent looking cars, but if you lower them with nice wheels, it really sets the car off, it has a good flow and just looks good. like royal t makes me want to get one.

[jserman]

The no back seat kills them for me.. I would rather have a G35 personally..

Other then that.. My buddy has an 03 with 80K miles no issues.. Tons of aftermarket for them..expensive and cheap stuff

[90white240]

I had no clue 350z did not have back seats.

[fliprayzin240sx]

350z will be the next S-chassis. They are getting cheaper and they are abundant.

They handle well for their size and weight...best way to describe it is they feel like a tad bit heavier S14 but alot more smooth.

[J40sx]

350z being a 2 seater really sucks. Id say to just keep the s14 and finish what you want to do with it, and then think about it after

[wh0aitznic0]

I'd rather have an S2000 than a 350Z.

[franklin93zx]

they are cool.

[Slammed Assassin]

350z will be the next S-chassis. They are getting cheaper and they are abundant.

They handle well for their size and weight...best way to describe it is they feel like a tad bit heavier S14 but alot more smooth.

agree.. im waiting for the 04-05 model to lower in value..then ill be in the market for one.

i like the way a 350z feels more solid/stable, though it feels heavy the power offsets that.

[murda-c]

I'd probably end up getting a c5 vette if i was getting rid of back seats.

Or try to find an FD rx7

[Psycho 240 Freak]

I'd buy a Corvette before I'd buy 350Z. To me a stock 350Z feels underpowered, a bit heavy, a lot more expensive to modify and has crazy blind spots. On a more positive note, the chassis feels really solid and you'll turn more heads in a stock 350Z than most 240's on the street. The VQ is a very capable motor, it'll just cost you more money for parts. I just like more of the raw mechanical feeling of a built up street 240. I don't own a 350Z mind you. This is just my opinion from driving and riding in a friend's stock 350Z.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Find an 03 or 04 350z with a warrantied engine. Alot of the early engines were having issues and Nissan ended up changing a bunch of them to the newer 06-07 engines. More power, less mileage and no oil burning issue.

350z are more tossable (drift) than the 370z, 370z are more grip cars out of the box compared to the 350z.

[stockbee]

I think you should get one.

[tricky_ab]

350z will be the next S-chassis. They are getting cheaper and they are abundant.

They handle well for their size and weight...best way to describe it is they feel like a tad bit heavier S14 but alot more smooth.


Well put, I was thinking the same thing! As for parts, it depends on what you're looking for but engine bits (Internal/external) are still quite pricey.

[ZX88]

i like them, there nice and low stock, and you can fit some big boy wheels under stock fenders.

[thenooblet]

i like them, there nice and low stock, and you can fit some big boy wheels under stock fenders.

x2
msglngth

[rweezly_s13]

hated them since they first came out, but
hey to each his own, in the end it all comes
down to your decision, don't try and impress us!!

[Royal_T]

Well I love my Z, so call me bias just a little. They handle well and are very comfortable. As a track car they take no effort to slid whats so ever..

Here is mine for a little inspiration.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4750640514_882d78da83.jpg

[thenooblet]

i was waiting on you to come in here^

[Turbo Nismo]

Thanks a lot for the advices guys, but if I buy one I'll just work on the exterior, like putting new wheels, coils, lip, etc. Maybe I'll put some cheap headers, exhaust and intake, but it'll be for daily use, not for racing. I think I'll first finish my S14 and then start saving $$$ to buy one and instead sell my Toyota Yaris. I really appreciate your opinions and advices guys thanks again!

[Turbo Nismo]

Well I love my Z, so call me bias just a little. They handle well and are very comfortable. As a track car they take no effort to slid whats so ever..

Here is mine for a little inspiration.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4750640514_882d78da83.jpg
Nice car bro, what coils are you using?

[Def]

I owned a G35 for a year - that thing was a MAJOR lemon. Worked fine for a few months, then everything started failing. Thankfully it was under warranty(it was an '06 manual/sport pkg car, had 39k miles when I picked it up, sold it at 50k). The warranty repairs exceeded the value of the car by the time I sold it.

Infiniti wouldn't stand behind some common problems(paint started flaking off the OEM wheels being the big one), so I decided to ditch it.

Moral of the story - old Nissan = cool, reliable cars with some sports car in their blood. New Nissan = decent cars ruined by corporate cost savings due to the Frenchies(Renault).

Everybody I know with an '03-'04 350Z says their car is great, no problems... then say, except a few little things and rattle off a laundry list of stuff all over their car that shouldn't be busted by ~60-80k miles.

[sickrbs14]

me personaly id stay 240 unless ya gonna do the vip look then go 350 they look good vip style

[SilviaSR20DET]

In my opinion, the 350z is a great all around sports car. It would eat a 240sx at the track. Newer car's have alot more potential in general. im saving for a 370z =)

[killa.beez33]

350z is a great car. I love mine. Like Royal stated, it's really easy to get sideways STOCK if you're in to that... Considering how cheap you can pick up a 2003 350z these days, I say it's worth picking one up.

[kalypso123]

the Z is tough

Its helping push the wheel fitment game to new levels by giving tuners something to work with.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I got 2 knocks for the Z, ugly egg like styling and aftermarket parts are somewhat expensive, atleast compared to S-chassis parts. Seems like every time I've looked at parts for it, its double what it would cost.

[demonspeed]

I got 2 knocks for the Z, ugly egg like styling and aftermarket parts are somewhat expensive, atleast compared to S-chassis parts. Seems like every time I've looked at parts for it, its double what it would cost.


but wasnt it like that for the 240 as well? I'm sure prices will go down for 350z parts eventually.....i hope O_O

[lazysk8er2]

hahaha i doubt the back seat is an issue considering the 240sx back seat is useless anyway.

the only thing i hated about my friends 350z is that rediculous rear strut bar totally kills the trunk.

[grudge]

350z is alright. but the new 370z is the SHT!!! still debating on selling my car to get one.

[Corbic]

Parts are not expenisve.

Control Arms, Bushings, Coil-Overs, sways et al are all in 10% of what a 240's parts cost. The only thing you may notice is the lack of garbage parts on ebay for garbage prices.

Used parts are a bit more expensive, because, well duh, the car is still "more expensive" and we don't have junkyards and CL adds littered with $500 shells.

Mechanics, its a V6 powered RWD car - straight forward, however the engine bay is very cramped.

The big problem you will run into is power-adders. It's expensive. You can't just make a custom kit like with a KA for $3k or swap any number of engines in a drop-in affair.

Twin-Turbo kits run 8k, S/C are in the 5k range so forth. Exhaust, intakes et al add really nothing, and cat-back systems are retard expensive.

Paint is thin, chips easily.

Check out MY350Z for more info.

As others have mentioned, they Swallow wheels... (which i guess makes them more expenisve, no $300 15inch knock off wheels and $180 tires anymore... now it's $3,000 Work's with $1000 in tires)

[.emerson.]

350s are alright. pros-bigger engine, more power, they do swallow wheels, good healthy drop and baller rims makes it look sick.

cons-more money for parts, more money cause u cant cheap out on said wheels, 240s are better

honestly when the 350s get cheaper yes they are awesome. I Prefer a 370

[1gr8bar10der]

It will be even cheaper whenever the Z35 comes out. I still think 370 looks better than 350, exterior wise. I'd prefer G35 over 350 but 370 over G37.

[nutendo]

The z have good option of mod for power like twin turbo from gready and super charger from hks and u will be at 400-500 hp easy depend how u tune it but I don't know the engine would be able to hold it

[Corbic]

The z have good option of mod for power like twin turbo from gready and super charger from hks and u will be at 400-500 hp easy depend how u tune it but I don't know the engine would be able to hold it

DE an Rev-up engines hold 400-450 at the wheels, while the 07-08 HR motors are holding 550-600 before chucking rods out the block. Really, for the 03-06 cars, the FI kits max out your internals, aol the kits have pros and cons. LS motor swaps are taking off as well....finally

There is a laundry list of FI kits out there. Turbos - JWT, PowerLab, Turbonetics, Greddy, APS, Squires et al. Super Chargers - HKS, Vortech, Stillen, et al.

[Corbic]

It will be even cheaper whenever the Z35 comes out. I still think 370 looks better than 350, exterior wise. I'd prefer G35 over 350 but 370 over G37.

Assuming the recession does not kill off the sport car industry like ones in the past....



A Z35 is far off into the future, also the HR 350's are holding value to near par of the first year 370s that are popping up on the used market. As for mod costs... Those will remain high as I don't foresee 19" wheels and tires getting cheaper, nor do I see FI kits becoming cheaper.. A turbo is a turbo...

[DenkiMan!]

i really like the 350z, i like how snug the interior feels and it seems to be a pretty well balanced car.

i feel like in the next 15-20 yrs, it will be the new cheap 240

[Def]

In my opinion, the 350z is a great all around sports car. It would eat a 240sx at the track. Newer car's have alot more potential in general. im saving for a 370z =)

My S13 will shit all over most Z33s at the track and it's not even that modified. Just some decent dampers and some work done to the car, so it's not like it's beyond a basic Z33 build. Although I guess it's semi-baller for S chassis standards since "totally modded" usually means the cheapest crap Chinese coilovers and a few tacky bolt-ons and "super flush" wheels for a "stanced ride." :barf:

[deolio]

Control Arms, Bushings, Coil-Overs, sways et al are all in 10% of what a 240's parts cost. The only thing you may notice is the lack of garbage parts on ebay for garbage prices.


that's what i was going to say. also all you really need are coils, rear camber arms, and front upper a-arms at most for a dd. all i have are coilovers, rear camber arms (although i don't really need them), wheels, tires and it's perfect.

[Corbic]

that's what i was going to say. also all you really need are coils, rear camber arms, and front upper a-arms at most for a dd. all i have are coilovers, rear camber arms (although i don't really need them), wheels, tires and it's perfect.

Pop-Charger and Exhaust too... neither do much for performance, but they both make the car sound amazing...

*woookie howl drive by*

[Matej]

I think a 350z is not an attractive car.
Same here.
And I find the 370Z even less attractive.
:hide:

[Dazzla]

Exterior on the 350z is perfect, interior imho is quite lacking. Interior seems very boring and lacking, even with all the funky guages etc.

370z is one badass car.

[jackw2]

one of my friends own a 350z and I have a g35 so the ride is somewhat similar just the G is a little heavier WITH BACK SEATS. but mods are really expensive. great daily tho!

[ranger240]

Moral of the story - old Nissan = cool, reliable cars with some sports car in their blood. New Nissan = decent cars ruined by corporate cost savings due to the Frenchies(Renault).


i'm with yah on the old nissan statement but
if it werent for those frenchies and ghosn there wouldnt be any 'new nissan' left


economies of scale broooooooooooooo


old nissan is gone.. the days of half a dozen engines going in three different models of lightweight nissan sports cars is also done.


the nissan 350z? ugly fatty-looking car. personally i'd rather endure the hairdresser jokes and nab an NB MX-5... get a hardtop'd one for like 6-7 grand with mega-low miles and then mess around with aftermarket parts

boss frog dual hoop roll bar looks cool and is scca approved plus any assortment of suspension/engine modifications = a car that runs circles around a 350 and looks GOOD

[hellaslows13]

My S13 will shit all over most Z33s at the track and it's not even that modified. Just some decent dampers and some work done to the car, so it's not like it's beyond a basic Z33 build. Although I guess it's semi-baller for S chassis standards since "totally modded" usually means the cheapest crap Chinese coilovers and a few tacky bolt-ons and "super flush" wheels for a "stanced ride." :barf:

QFT.... I think 350z's are alright... the prices on them are starting to become more affordable which is nice. I would daily one!

[heavenboundkevin]

like others, i think it would take such a baller sized wheel to get good fitment $$. plus 2 seater is no bueno. i do like the white nismo 350z's.

[udon!]

350z = not as cool as s14

No cool Body kits/parts

BORRRING

[GabeS14]

i really like the 350z, i like how snug the interior feels and it seems to be a pretty well balanced car.
i feel like in the next 15-20 yrs, it will be the new cheap 240
This is correct,
I just picked up a 06 350z, I own a widebody S14, its damaged right now II am awaiting payout from insurance.
I fucking love the 350, I am sure you will too..
it feels way more like a sports car than the S14, you are snug in the seat, which is pretty sporty, and you sit lower and feels somethign like the cockpit of a race car. the balance is much better as denki man said.


350z = not as cool as s14
No cool Body kits/parts
BORRRING

Well the cool thing about the 350z, is you dont need body kits to make it look nice, the hottest 350z's out there dont even have aero, at the most a spoiler or a lip..
just lower them and they look sick.

[GabeS14]

if your not convinced yet:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4759556810_13d44149f3.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4750640514_882d78da83.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4750640802_b7e21c9e8c.jpg

just realized Royal t already posted ..haha..anyways keep the pics for inspiration.

[Corbic]

My S13 will shit all over most Z33s at the track and it's not even that modified. Just some decent dampers and some work done to the car, so it's not like it's beyond a basic Z33 build. Although I guess it's semi-baller for S chassis standards since "totally modded" usually means the cheapest crap Chinese coilovers and a few tacky bolt-ons and "super flush" wheels for a "stanced ride." :barf:

Why not list your actual mods. Most swapped S13s are not even making stock 350Z DE WHP numbers (245whp). The Z33 is an outstanding chassis, with a great transmission and strong Diff.

The 350Z HR is a beast... owners with near stock cars are running low 13's in the quarter, and a Intake, Exhaust and Tune is getting people in the 290whp range.

Downside? Your shelling out ~20k for a HR.

[driftsilvias13]

I owned 2 350z's and loved them. The car is obviously much heavier but is really easy to slide around. Great wheel fitment too. Very reliable, you can beat it on the track and drive it home no problem. Just be careful of the 03-04 oil burning issue which basically means check your oil more often.

For the people saying that parts are expensive, compared to what? You cant compare ebay suspension arms to SPLparts or a CX Racing turbo kit to a HKS one. Look at how much quality parts are for a 240sx and the prices are almost identical to ones for a 350z. As said previously there are not a lot of knock off cheap parts compared to what is available to the 240sx.

[Corbic]

I owned 2 350z's and loved them. The car is obviously much heavier but is really easy to slide around. Great wheel fitment too. Very reliable, you can beat it on the track and drive it home no problem. Just be careful of the 03-04 oil burning issue which basically means check your oil more often.

For the people saying that parts are expensive, compared to what? You cant compare ebay suspension arms to SPLparts or a CX Racing turbo kit to a HKS one. Look at how much quality parts are for a 240sx and the prices are almost identical to ones for a 350z. As said previously there are not a lot of knock off cheap parts compared to what is available to the 240sx.

It is actually the "Rev Up" engines from 05-06 that have those issues, not the 287hp DE engines.

[GenPac]

I have both and honestly, I prefer the 350 for daily driving. I think the OE seats in the 240 are *hit.

[GabeS14]

dont know what the guy with the s13 saying hell shit all over any 350z is smoking, but Even coming off a 370ish hp s14,
I feel like the stock power of my 06 350z is amazing.
much better than any stock turbo sr, and actually more spread throughout the rpm range than even my s14 .. cuz when you get a bigger turbo for more power the higher up in the rpm range your peak power moves.. with the 350z I felt a lot better power distribution.
either way I would say have a few good test drives, nothing beats having a good long test drive.

and yes wat the poster above said.. the oem seats in 240s are such garbage, the one from the 350z has totall back support(i have lower back problems) so trust me I know.

[tricky_ab]

if your not convinced yet:


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4750640514_882d78da83.jpg



I never get tired of seeing this car!

[Def]

dont know what the guy with the s13 saying hell shit all over any 350z is smoking, but Even coming off a 370ish hp s14,
I feel like the stock power of my 06 350z is amazing.
much better than any stock turbo sr, and actually more spread throughout the rpm range than even my s14 .. cuz when you get a bigger turbo for more power the higher up in the rpm range your peak power moves.. with the 350z I felt a lot better power distribution.
either way I would say have a few good test drives, nothing beats having a good long test drive.

and yes wat the poster above said.. the oem seats in 240s are such garbage, the one from the 350z has totall back support(i have lower back problems) so trust me I know.

I'm not smoking anything... but the occasional Z33 I see on track.

I owned a rev-up '06 G35 for a year, so I know what I'm talking about since it isn't that much slower than a Z33 or handle that much worse(weight difference is about like always having a passenger).

The HR Z33s like yours are a bit stronger, but it's still not that impressive - low-mid 13's in the 1320 is usual. My car makes in the 350 rwhp range, and it's not going to run 13s unless I launch in 3rd gear.

On track weight is a way bigger issue, and a mildly setup S13 can be right around 2400-2500 lbs without too much trouble. A Z33 will be struggling to get down to 3100-3200 lbs without spending a fortune.

They're nice cars for the street when they're not falling apart, just not very good track cars. The huge ass 2" rubber bushings all over the suspension should give that away.

[Def]

if your not convinced yet:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4759556810_13d44149f3.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4750640514_882d78da83.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4750640802_b7e21c9e8c.jpg

just realized Royal t already posted ..haha..anyways keep the pics for inspiration.

Hard parking on a track... yea, that about sums up Z33s. haha :goyou:

[lovemeruff]

Hmmmm not a big fan of 350z's but several catch my eyeeeee. my favorite is this vertex z from houston tx!

http://i30.tinypic.com/33paw51.jpg

[udon!]

they look like whales and i hate the sound of vq35s.

only thing good IMO is rwd, manual transmission, and its new

[!Zar!]

350z's are cool.

370's are even better.

If i had to choose between a s chassis or a z chassis, I would pick the z.

[GabeS14]

Hmmmm not a big fan of 350z's but several catch my eyeeeee. my favorite is this vertex z from houston tx!

http://i30.tinypic.com/33paw51.jpg

are there any good pictures of that Z? that one makes it look like a turtle lol..bad photography

[drift freaq]

Don't listen to S13 owners who use their bias in judgment. I own a S13 but I do not lie to myself a Z33 is superior period!

Yes a setup lightened S13(with a good driver) will give a stock Z33 a run. Though track lighten the Z33 and put a good driver in it and I bet he will run rings around a S13. Seriously , Z33's have much better suspension than a S13.


Oh and whoever owns or owned a 06 G35 or 350z owns a Rev up car, which was a problem engine. All 03-05 DE cars had no problems with their engines contrary to what others have said in this thread. Nissan did not put newer engines in these cars under warranty either.

They did replace Rev Ups under warranty, with another rev up not a HR.

As far as build quality goes I have not had any Z33 friends complaining about the cars falling apart or problems outside of the anniversary edition 05 rev ups and 06 rev ups.

In the end stock out of the box the 350z will own a s chassis stock out of the box.

People here tend to try a compare a totally setup illegal motor s chassis against a stock Z.

To the OP buy a Z I doubt you will feel sorry you did. OH and G35's are larger and feel larger kinda like the S14 to the S13 LOL.

[travisty_]

http://www.motormavens.com/emAlbum/albums/Contributors/Chris%20Minshall/features/350z/_fullsize/IMG_4566a.jpg

I like them, parts are no doubt more expensive though.

[Def]

Don't listen to S13 owners who use their bias in judgment. I own a S13 but I do not lie to myself a Z33 is superior period!

Yes a setup lightened S13(with a good driver) will give a stock Z33 a run. Though track lighten the Z33 and put a good driver in it and I bet he will run rings around a S13. Seriously , Z33's have much better suspension than a S13.


Oh and whoever owns or owned a 06 G35 or 350z owns a Rev up car, which was a problem engine. All 03-05 DE cars had no problems with their engines contrary to what others have said in this thread. Nissan did not put newer engines in these cars under warranty either.

They did replace Rev Ups under warranty, with another rev up not a HR.

As far as build quality goes I have not had any Z33 friends complaining about the cars falling apart or problems outside of the anniversary edition 05 rev ups and 06 rev ups.

In the end stock out of the box the 350z will own a s chassis stock out of the box.

People here tend to try a compare a totally setup illegal motor s chassis against a stock Z.

To the OP buy a Z I doubt you will feel sorry you did. OH and G35's are larger and feel larger kinda like the S14 to the S13 LOL.

Meh, I've been tracking various cars for 8 years now, and have plenty of Z33/V35 experience. I have to wonder where some of these claims of a mildly modded Z33 blasting a mildly modded S chassis around a track come from. Doesn't echo my experience at all.

Rev-up engines make power just fine, they just consume oil. Mine did and I had a new longblock put in the car.... then the clutch slave cylinder went.. then the new block leaked oil at the upper oil pan.. then the axles started clicking(they *ALL* do this after a while)... then I had almost the entire fuel filler/EVAP system, fuel level sender replaced because you couldn't put more than 7 gallons of gas in the car at a time. The window regulator was failing when I sold the car as well, and it had already been replaced twice before 39k miles(once at 9k miles!).

There were more problems, but basically the car was a POS, and I know many others that had similar experiences with Z33s and V35s. Some have had good luck, but many others don't.

The cars also handle OK, but not great in stock form. The rubber bushings are huge, and the car feels a little imprecise at the limit. It's a GT cruiser really, and that's what Nissan designed the suspension around. It shows when you drive it hard.

[!Zar!]

Z33's attract more women than men.

S14's attract more men than women.

[drift freaq]

Meh, I've been tracking various cars for 8 years now, and have plenty of Z33/V35 experience. I have to wonder where some of these claims of a mildly modded Z33 blasting a mildly modded S chassis around a track come from. Doesn't echo my experience at all.

Right there suggests you have a lot of track experience and I can bet most z drivers you are up against do not have as much.

You may have experience yourself driving a G35,perhaps even some with a Z, but please stop trying to compare the Z and G . T
he Z is smaller, it is lighter than a G and though the chassis platform is the same there are differences just like a S13 to S14 .

On top of that unless you have driven against a equally prepared Z to your car with a driver with equal experience and level of capabilities your statements have no scientific accuracy and are equal to the butt dyno metaphor.

Oh and you know well there are distinctive differences between a S13 and a S14 for you to say there is none between the Z and G is like you claiming ignorance.

Rev-up engines make power just fine, they just consume oil. Mine did and I had a new longblock put in the car.... then the clutch slave cylinder went.. then the new block leaked oil at the upper oil pan.. then the axles started clicking(they *ALL* do this after a while)... then I had almost the entire fuel filler/EVAP system, fuel level sender replaced because you couldn't put more than 7 gallons of gas in the car at a time. The window regulator was failing when I sold the car as well, and it had already been replaced twice before 39k miles(once at 9k miles!).



There were more problems, but basically the car was a POS, and I know many others that had similar experiences with Z33s and V35s. Some have had good luck, but many others don't.



you had a bad experience and you owned a rev up car. Hmmm I just don't see a lot of people complaining like you do above and yes I am on the 350z forums as well.

The cars also handle OK, but not great in stock form. The rubber bushings are huge, and the car feels a little imprecise at the limit. It's a GT cruiser really, and that's what Nissan designed the suspension around. It shows when you drive it hard.

This brings us right back to stock Z vs a stock S chassis, The stock Z may not be perfect but out of the Box it will out handle a stock S chassis.
Plus again you owned a G35 which was admittedly by Nissan a GT car . The 350Z was a different beast.
In Japan the Japanese guys did not want to purchase V35's aka Skyline 350GT's because they were too big.
In fact the 350Z was the hot car to buy because it was smaller and a 100-200 lbs lighter than the G35.

I am just sorry but G35's are not Z's plain and simple. Just like S13's are not S14's .

Seriously I own a S13 and love them but I am not going to fool myself into thinking that the S13 is gods gift to sports cars, if it was you would not even be working as hard as you have and others have to improve it.

Great for what it was? Yes and fun to drive. Superior to a Sports car 15 years newer, from the same company? LOL No.

Nissan has made improvement across the board in the last 15-20 years and the Z is superior period.

P.S. I still respect what you do and who you are. I just think you may not have fully thought this out or opened your eyes to your own personal bias.

[Def]

Right there suggests you have a lot of track experience and I can bet most z drivers you are up against do not have as much.

You may have experience yourself driving a G35,perhaps even some with a Z, but please stop trying to compare the Z and G . T
he Z is smaller, it is lighter than a G and though the chassis platform is the same there are differences just like a S13 to S14 .

On top of that unless you have driven against a equally prepared Z to your car with a driver with equal experience and level of capabilities your statements have no scientific accuracy and are equal to the butt dyno metaphor.

Oh and you know well there are distinctive differences between a S13 and a S14 for you to say there is none between the Z and G is like you claiming ignorance.

They were in the same run group as me at HPDEs, which definitely doesn't mean the same skill level, but I'm not Michael Schumacher so...

I've driven a few Z's over the years, some stock, some modded. They're definitely above a stock S13/S14 - no arguments there, but to say they're THAT different than a G35 is pretty erroneous IMO. Like I said, the actual weight difference is about like having a (not very heavy) passenger in the Z, and there's a little bit of wheelbase difference between them. Otherwise they are basically the same cars as far as mechanicals go - can't dispute that one.

I'd say an S14 is just as capable as an S13, and there is probably about the same amount of difference between those two as a Z33/V35.


you had a bad experience and you owned a rev up car. Hmmm I just don't see a lot of people complaining like you do above and yes I am on the 350z forums as well.

I'm not the only one with tons of problems with the car. I met a few people who had bad experience with leased cars before I got mine, and I dismissed what they said. Turned out to be about the same as they said. My other dailys have been high mileage BMWs, so it's not like I'm expecting 200k miles with no failures type reliability here...


This brings us right back to stock Z vs a stock S chassis, The stock Z may not be perfect but out of the Box it will out handle a stock S chassis.
Plus again you owned a G35 which was admittedly by Nissan a GT car . The 350Z was a different beast.
In Japan the Japanese guys did not want to purchase V35's aka Skyline 350GT's because they were too big.
In fact the 350Z was the hot car to buy because it was smaller and a 100-200 lbs lighter than the G35.

I am just sorry but G35's are not Z's plain and simple. Just like S13's are not S14's .

Seriously I own a S13 and love them but I am not going to fool myself into thinking that the S13 is gods gift to sports cars, if it was you would not even be working as hard as you have and others have to improve it.

Great for what it was? Yes and fun to drive. Superior to a Sports car 15 years newer, from the same company? LOL No.

Nissan has made improvement across the board in the last 15-20 years and the Z is superior period.

P.S. I still respect what you do and who you are. I just think you may not have fully thought this out or opened your eyes to your own personal bias.

I have no delusions about what a little ratty S13/S14 can do on the track, but I think you'd be surprised. It doesn't take a huge amount of mods to run with much much more capable cars than a lightly modded Z33 on track when you've got light weight and the capability to fit a decent tire under the car like an S chassis.

I won't say Nissan didn't make some improvements in the Z33 - as I'll be the first to admit I pop wood checking out cool stuff like their cast aluminum front frame to subframe brace and tons more spot welds/chassis reinforcements etc. But they also tried to design basically a "cushier E36 M3." Not a bad design target for a street car, but it's not as much of a quantum leap over the S chassis as you'd think, especially when a few mods are thrown on the table that tend to address more of the "secretary's car" deficiencies that plagued most early 90's cheaper Nissans.

Anyway, everybody is entitled to their opinions, but I've been around the track long enough to realize the older chassis can definitely keep up with the new whizbang cars if prepped well.

[Turbo Nismo]

http://www.motormavens.com/emAlbum/albums/Contributors/Chris%20Minshall/features/350z/_fullsize/IMG_4566a.jpg

I like them, parts are no doubt more expensive though.

OMG!!!! My favorite color :cj:

[Corbic]

you had a bad experience and you owned a rev up car. Hmmm I just don't see a lot of people complaining like you do above and yes I am on the 350z forums as well.


Yes they do. In fact, MY350Z has a whole thread of "what do you hate about your Z".

To summarize -

Crappy, peeling, squeaky interior.
Stock Clothe seats look and feel cheap
Rear Axle Clicks
Throw-out bearings fail quick
Transmission issues on 03's
Tire Feathering 03's
Window Regulators fail more then Volkswagens
Air-Bag sensor failure
Oil-Consumption on Rev' Ups (Very common)
Thin, THIN HORRIBLE PAINT!!! They make Subaru's look solid

N/A Mods are worthless, you either drop 8k to go FI or LS swap, but you are wasting your time with headers, exhausts, intakes, cams, spacers, reflashes et al.


Recent drop of resale - to many 240/rsx owners starting to join the club (ie 16 year old ass-hats)

[keeeban]

Z33's attract more women than men.

S14's attract more men than women.
That gave me a good laugh. Plus, it's true.

To the OP: Have you driven a Z33? When you do, tell me how much more you love it than your S14.

My buddy picked up an '07 for 8 grand. Why so cheap? Salvaged title. Why'd he buy it? No frame damage, no engine damage, no problems what so ever, except some lame body damage from the accident (that was all professionally fixed by the way). Oh, and it has 34,XXX miles.

Just gotta wait for those good deals. Exterior wasn't perfect, chips here and there, interior not so pretty (looked scratched in a lot of places) but who wouldn't pay 8 grand for an '07 with no problems? The HR = beast.

Let me tell you about my experience in driving it. One word: amazing.

If I sold my S14 and picked up a Z33, I would never regret it. Not to mention the fact that it looks amazing with just wheels and coils. Plus, even the sound of the stock exhaust sounds nice enough to me.

For the issue of only having two seats: Tell me the truth, who actually uses the back seats in their S14/S13? In my honest opinion, I hate driving a full car (I drive a '96) and rather have a two seater.

Long story short, it's a no-brainer decision between an S14 or a Z33.

[GabeS14]

Yes they do. In fact, MY350Z has a whole thread of "what do you hate about your Z".

To summarize -

Crappy, peeling, squeaky interior.
Stock Clothe seats look and feel cheap
Rear Axle Clicks
Throw-out bearings fail quick
Transmission issues on 03's
Tire Feathering 03's
Window Regulators fail more then Volkswagens
Air-Bag sensor failure
Oil-Consumption on Rev' Ups (Very common)
Thin, THIN HORRIBLE PAINT!!! They make Subaru's look solid

N/A Mods are worthless, you either drop 8k to go FI or LS swap, but you are wasting your time with headers, exhausts, intakes, cams, spacers, reflashes et al.


Recent drop of resale - to many 240/rsx owners starting to join the club (ie 16 year old ass-hats)

WOw.. your still fighting this battle? lol..lets make a thread of what you hate on your S chassis...WOW WOW WOW>> hahaha that would be a fucking joke probably would be the longest thread on zilvia!

[Corbic]

WOw.. your still fighting this battle? lol..lets make a thread of what you hate on your S chassis...WOW WOW WOW>> hahaha that would be a fucking joke probably would be the longest thread on zilvia!

Nothing other then lame stock aero... (s13) and crappy pop-ups stock (s13 coupe).

I own a 350z BTW.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/Corbic/My%20Cars/IMG_0069-1.jpg

I am not saying the 240 is better... I'm just saying the Z is not as great as some make it out to be.

I personally have had a laundry list of this issues I've posted. You really can't complain about many of the 240's issues because they are old cars now.. chipped paint on a 20 year old car that you paid $900 for?!? Vs freckles all over your ~2 year old $35k car with 15k miles.

[didderson]

God you guys are getting older aren't you. Lol so many people saying they suck for only having 2 seats.
How many of the s13 owners still use or even have their backseat in anymore?

They look real nice w/ some wheels and carbon kit splitters.
But the door handle has always been a WTF look to me.

Also they hold my favorite Nissan orange paint code:
http://www.forgestar.com/blog/pics/o350z.jpg

Solar orange, not that coppery lookin stuff from the early 350z's.

[!Zar!]

I would trade my s-chassis for a z-chassis.

Jussayin

[creyes13491]

you should get one.

[Corbic]

... the greatest color ever... for any Z fans checking this thread out, wrap your head around a designo Magno Cashmere White 350z..

MB color, basically a flat pearl white... I saw this the other day DAYUMMM

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc89/03W203/R230/sl63white01.jpg