PC build help

[S13shaka]

hey every1 was looking for some advice on the PC im trying to build. Monitor, dvd drive, and peripherals aside, I have a $700-800ish budget.

trying to have something that can make sc2 pretty and do 1080p

so far ive been eyeing the intel i7 920, antec 300 case n antec tp750 psu, after that I dont know other than I want 6 gb of ram. I dont know what else I need after the mobo, video n sound card, ram, n hdd (OS aside). Am I asking too much for my price range? Id rather not cut corners and im pretty overwhelmed with all the information overload doing research...so suggestions, opinions, corrections please thanks.

[enkei2k]

i'd say, invest in a good vid card if you're doing 1080 stuff. at LEAST 1GB for the vid card. honestly, sound card i wouldn't bother much about it, unless you are a real audiophile listening to lossless media. i thought about getting a killer sound card at one point, but i ended up using this one that came with my mobo and haven't looked back.

is that 7-800 including the specs you already listed (proc, case, ram, psu)? if so, you're pretty much 'cutting corners' if your build budget is < 1K. you'd have to cheap out somewhere, but definitely do NOT cheap out on a vid card and mobo. the mobo is the important part, i'd recommend ASUS for that.

if you want to invest in your PC, look into aftermarket cooling and make sure your case can fit the extra fans if you're doing high gfx in sc2 and 1080 i'm sure the graphics card is gonna work hard.

[Future240]

To add to what enkei2k said if you are going on an $800 budget, instead of going with an I7 try an AMD Phenom II 965, it is less than 200 bucks and packs a lot of bang for buck.

Asus is a great Mobo maker for AMD I am running one now.


Price out this setup, it should run under 800 and be a pretty good deal.
CPU-Phenom 965
Mobo-Asus
GPU-HIS (I think its a 5870-if too exp dial back a few, will still get 1080p I have it on an HIS 4850)
HDD-Seagate or Westerd Digital Black
CPU Fan-Artic Cooling

[sephiroth99]

if you want a core i7 setup, I would recommend the Asus P6X58D-E. There is also the Gigabyte X58A-UD3R which is cheap, but there are lots of people that get whining noise coming from the motherboard (I know mine does whine, it sucks)

If you find yourself on a thight budget for a i7 setup, as future240 mentionned, you should consider an AMD setup. You can go for a Phenom II X4 965, or for about $20 more, you can get a X6 (hexacore).

As for the videocard, depending on the budget, either a 5770 or a 5830 I'd say.

[S13shaka]

ok so I did some number crunching and priced out this for $950:

intel i7 920
asus p6x58d-e
asus eah4870 gpu
wd 1.5 tb cav blak
a-data 32gig ssd
antec 300 case
antec tp 750 psu
artic cooling 92 mm cpu fan

yay nay?

edit: eh i forgot about ram, holdddd up

[BOROSUN]

looks good, but...
go for a 5770 and play the waiting game til the 5850 or 5870 drop the price some more.
atleast your dx11 proof with the 5770.

4gb ddr3 (atleast 1600 above or whatever your mobo can support) of ram is good enough. you can always add more later.

btw don't go amd phenom 2. the i7 920 is perfect...can be oc to 4.8ghz on air and its way better than amd x4/x6 in every way, price too. i have the 955be and hopefully going i7 for another build. the phenom 2 will be dinosaurs soon, anyways.
also stay away from HIS.

ooh forgot always future proof yourself. for psu make sure you got multiple +12v rails (atleast 4). and check the connectors and watts need if you want to go sli/xfire in the future. example like you need atleast 850-900 watt 2 2x6 connectors for 5870 on crossfire with head room for oc.

[amdnivram]

i really don't think intel based Pc's are really worth it if your on a budget. Im saying this because amd is better than intel at lower budgets. Let me find all my stuff but im sure what cost me 1600 is around you budget now since 1-2 years have passed and i can play any game at maxed specs. and still have over 50 fps

[BOROSUN]

dude, i7 920 is around $275ish, while the new amd x6 1090t is close to $300. the 920 benchmarks way better than the 1090t six core. best bang for your buck and can hang for the future.

if you really want amd, save it. 2011 amd will release the bulldozer. this a totally new processor unlike the current amd cpus is based on the 8 yr old athlon 64.

[S13shaka]

^I found the 920 for $220 n just priced out a 5770 for $150

[Homer_Simpson]

You can get the i7 930 at Micro Center right now for $199, pick up only.

[ronmcdon]

yeah, i'd definetly opt for the i7 920.
have one myself & love it.

about to throw in a 5770 vid card @ our work desktop.
note you need a beefier power supply to run that.

I'd start off with less ram & skimp on a sound card.
that stuffs easy to add later.

[g6civcx]

dude, i7 920 is around $275ish, while the new amd x6 1090t is close to $300. the 920 benchmarks way better than the 1090t six core. best bang for your buck and can hang for the future.

if you really want amd, save it. 2011 amd will release the bulldozer. this a totally new processor unlike the current amd cpus is based on the 8 yr old athlon 64.

My experience from assembling thousands of custom-spec computers is that one company always tries to outdo the other.

One year AMD will be the better value. The next year it will be the Intel. It switches back and forth.

[S13shaka]

You can get the i7 930 at Micro Center right now for $199, pick up only.


I saw that! none in Fl tho! boo

ronmcdon: 750w not enough for the 5770?

[dawagarage]

what are your plans in regards to your OS?

[S13shaka]

win7 64 bit, I have a friend called the internet whos gonna give it to me

[ronmcdon]

I saw that! none in Fl tho! boo

ronmcdon: 750w not enough for the 5770?

No, that should be plenty.

I was just referring to the card in general requiring a larger ps
(not saying your setup was questionable).
I had to upgrade our office computer's ps to a 600/650w unit for it to work w/ the 5770.

btw - some stuff probably should be omitted in a public forum such as this.

[dawagarage]

oooh youre going to buy it. that sucks. OS' are expensive. i thought you were gonna pirate it, in which case i was gonna ask you where you gonna get it from.... cuz ubuntu is not cuttin it for moi. any1 w/ info PM me :)

[BOROSUN]

in general you mean nvidia power heaters.

[S13shaka]

what 120mm fans ya'll like for the front of the case

[Freddy]

this thread might help,

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/288005-custom-pc-computer-build-prebuilt-techie-discussion.html

[Gnnr]

System Buyers' Guide: PCs for Under $1000 - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News (http://www.anandtech.com/show/2936)

[FRpilot]

interesting. I am building a pc for sc2 next month. (I think the release of sc2 alone next month is getting a lot of people to build/upgrade their pcs which is good good boost the sales for the PC industry. other companies should give Blizzard/Acitivision some money)

i am currently building a budget pc right now and piecing together/blueprinting my 2nd one to build for fun/minor overclocking/gaming, and blueprinting a 3rd PC as my dream PC (not sure if i will build this one, cost too much $$$).

i thought i could get away with a 700-800 budget too, but in the end, after tallying up all the cost, i ended up getting some fancier/costlier parts, and the total was low $1400. It could have been lower, but I opted for a more expensive case, i7 860 instead of i5 750, 8gb ram instead of 4gb, 2 hdd instead of just 1 hdd, and got a bd drive instead of just dvd.

if you're on a budget and going intel, stick with 1156 socket p55 chip. it will save you about $100, since the p55 mobos cost less and by running dual channel instead of triple channel memory (likely 2x2GB for budget build). also, if you're not overclocking, intel core i5 750 is best overall value and runs almost as a non-overclock i7 930.

My goal for this build was for stockclock (no overclocking) and least power consumption. I choose nvidia 9800GT (old ass card) over 5770 because i'm going to use it as a Phyx card for my next beefier/overclocking/fun build. I will most likely get a 5770 or better card to replace it if prices come down.

imo, for 160ish, 5770 is not a bad card and dx11 compatible. you might want to think about getting a motherboard that is usb 3.0/6gb sata compatible to future proof yourself a few years (even those these things wont be in widespread mainstream use for 2-3 yrs).

Here is PC #1 my "budget" setup:

Motherboard: EVGA P55 Micro $85
CPU: Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHz $220
Memory: Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz 7-8-7-20 8GB (4 x 2GB) $220
Video Card: Nvidia 9800GT 1GB DDR3 P/N: 010-p3-N981-TR $140
Power Supply: Corsair HX650w 650 Watt $90
Boot HDD/SDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 2.0TB 64MB Buffer $130
Storage HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 2.0TB 64MB Buffer $130
Optical Drive: Samsung BD/DVD-RW/CD-RW $70
Case: Apevia X-QPack 2 $115
Cooling: Corsair H50 $60
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium Retail $150


Don't ask me about AMD. I have no clue, but if you go AMD route, their processor for the speed/features you get are more budget orientated.

[1on1]

Here is PC #1 my "budget" setup:

Motherboard: EVGA P55 Micro $85
CPU: Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHz $220
Memory: Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz 7-8-7-20 8GB (4 x 2GB) $220
Video Card: Nvidia 9800GT 1GB DDR3 P/N: 010-p3-N981-TR $140
Power Supply: Corsair HX650w 650 Watt $90
Boot HDD/SDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 2.0TB 64MB Buffer $130
Storage HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 2.0TB 64MB Buffer $130
Optical Drive: Samsung BD/DVD-RW/CD-RW $70
Case: Apevia X-QPack 2 $115
Cooling: Corsair H50 $60
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium Retail $150


Don't ask me about AMD. I have no clue, but if you go AMD route, their processor for the speed/features you get are more budget orientated.

take out that 2tb for a 250gb or 500gb hdd with a 64mb buffer. you don't need a TB for your main hard drive and is a waste.

memory: you don't need triple channel memory if you're running a 860 processor, just stick to dual channel memory.

video card: i would say atleast a gtx 465 because of the DDR5 rather than ddr3. 9800gtx wont last you a long time.

if you want extra help on building a PC, give me a PM. i can help you on pc related parts.

[Finchie]

I read as far as "6 gb of ram". You do not need that much RAM at all especially if your just playing SC2. Hell you can run SC2, PS CS4, and 10 internet windows on just 3 gigs of RAM.

It is also a waist of time to go 64 bit, it is horribly supported in many areas. Unless you are doing crazy 3D renderings or trying to find out the answer to Pi, you don't need 6 gigs of RAM or 64 bit.

Also one very important thing you left out is what size screen your going to be playing on, anything above 22" is going to be hard to play at full graphics & 1080p resolution. If your planning on playing on anything over 22" look into SLI or Crossfire.

I end with this, My current computer (E6600 OC to 3.8 Ghz, 2gb of corsair RAM, 8800 GTX OC) cost me almost $2000 when I bought it. It can run every game that has come out to this day on max settings without a blip. You could build a system similar, scratch that BETTER than mine for around your budget.

Learn how to OC and get your moneys worth out of your computer.

end rant

Woops almost forgot, getting a 32gb SSD hard drive is stupid as hell for a budget PC. Get a nice Western Digital and save a ton of money for your video card, or get a Raptor drive. Save the cash and spend it on a video card.

[BOROSUN]

wow really?

[FRpilot]

take out that 2tb for a 250gb or 500gb hdd with a 64mb buffer. you don't need a TB for your main hard drive and is a waste.

memory: you don't need triple channel memory if you're running a 860 processor, just stick to dual channel memory.

video card: i would say atleast a gtx 465 because of the DDR5 rather than ddr3. 9800gtx wont last you a long time.

if you want extra help on building a PC, give me a PM. i can help you on pc related parts.

i know, my "budget" PC isn't really a budget PC anymore because i choose to splurge and went overboard.

the reason i got 2 2.0TB hdd is because eventually, i'm probably going to get an intel 80gb ssd for boot and keep the second 2TB for storage. then i will move the extra 2.0TB hdd as a storage hdd for my PC#2 build.

i am running 2 dual channel kits (2 kits of 2x2GB) so 4x2GB sticks that fills all my DIMM slots. i know, probably don't need 8gb total and should have just stuck with 4gb, but i choose to splurge.

the video card is the same situation with my hdd setup. i eventually plan to move the 9800gt to my PC#2 build and use it as a PhyX card mated to a GTX480 whenever those go down in prices. my replacement video card for this PC will probably be a 5770 since it is dx11 compatible and doesn't consume a lot of power. (maybe i'll opt for 5870 if prices come down enough)

[Crazyirish]

Also one very important thing you left out is what size screen your going to be playing on, anything above 22" is going to be hard to play at full graphics & 1080p resolution. If your planning on playing on anything over 22" look into SLI or Crossfire.

Screen size is irrelevant. Only resolution matters. 1080p (really just 1920x1080) is just as hard on the system at 19" as it is at 52".

[ronmcdon]

I'm surprised the 5870's still as pricey as they are (around $500-ish?).
It probably cost the same today as it did 2 years ago.
5970's are only $600 so I don't think it makes sense to skimp $100 when you don't mind to spend that sort of $.

the 5970 toxic is nice too.
now there's a product I'm hoping the price will drop a little.

[S13shaka]

^yeah the jump from 5770 to 5870 is alot $$$$


question: im going to ahve to get a wireless card to put in a pci slot on my asus mb to run wireless internet?

[Future240]

wow really?

That's what I said.

S13shaka, you could get a wireless card, or you could just use a USB adapter to pick up the wireless. I admit to not knowing much on this, as my PC is wired.

[FRpilot]

I'm surprised the 5870's still as pricey as they are (around $500-ish?).
It probably cost the same today as it did 2 years ago.
5970's are only $600 so I don't think it makes sense to skimp $100 when you don't mind to spend that sort of $.

the 5970 toxic is nice too.
now there's a product I'm hoping the price will drop a little.

aren't 5870s msrp about $400? i heard XFX or some other big graphics card manufacturer is releasing a limited edition card with 2 5870 gpus on 1 board that will be 30-40% faster than 5970!

[Future240]

^Indeed 5870's are around 400. 390-410 depending on who makes it.

[FRpilot]

hopefully in another 2 years, the 5870 will be around... 180, but who knows, gtx295s stayed at around 500 for a whole year before they got discontinued. i think the same might happen to the gtx480 and since they were just released, i bet it will take another 2-3 yrs for them to release a new chip.

[ronmcdon]

aren't 5870s msrp about $400? i heard XFX or some other big graphics card manufacturer is releasing a limited edition card with 2 5870 gpus on 1 board that will be 30-40% faster than 5970!

Is that the '5870 x2' ?
That's the card with dual 5870's & 2gigs of ddr5, iirc.
If so, think that was released well over 2 years ago.
Using that card right now.
Regular 5870 is 1gig ddr5, so the $3-400 makes sense.

Looking further, seems like ATi just renamed the '5870 x2' into the '5970'
They just dropped the 'x2' moniker (not 100% certain about this).
Lol, no wonder the price is about the same.

Now the Sapphire 5970 Toxic is taking two 5970's together on one card w/ some overclocking.
SAPPHIRE- HOME (http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?leg=&psn=000101&pid=340)

[BOROSUN]

5870 x2 is a 5970. so, that doesn't make sense.

xfx does have the 5870 eyefinity 6 monitor with double the memory not dual gpu. and if you read upcoming tech stuff, there is a ati eyefinity 12 monitor card out there.


ati rumor release the 6000 series late this year, though.

[FRpilot]

idk, maybe it was a xfx 5870 black edition? i was browsing articles last night and i saw it mentioned.

[BOROSUN]

BE are just overpriced OCed cards.

i was look at newegg earlier. their pricing some of the gtx470 is just $300. a $30-50 off reg price.
tempting but, i'm still waiting for more dx11 content to make me pull the gun.

[1on1]

@FRpilot understandable.

if anyone wants to get SSD. i have two Corsair Extreme Series 256gb for $450 each *BNIB!!!*. They retail for about $750

you don't need any directx 11 yet since most games do not support. it would be nice to have but there are limited games that have it.

what i would do is run a lower end ati 5000series or 4900 series, for you nvidia atleast at gtx260 for now until next year. by that time, your video card will still have value and you can upgrade to the new stuff.

my pc is running a EVGA 8600GTS 640mb and it kinda lags when im on optimal resolution for my 22" monitor.

[BOROSUN]

to the ppl that says you only need 3gb of ram is just wrong. just now, i was running 3.3gb. i don't run intensive 3d programs and such. i was running my multiple daily normal apps.

browsing(zilvia), video (watching strikeforce), and my game(kingdomhereos). no other apps were running.

i avg 2.9gb normally and my highest usage ive seen was close to 6gb (running scans).

[S13shaka]

im gonna buy a zonet usb wireless adapter

anyone have a nzxt sentry 2? shit is badass looking

[Future240]

to the ppl that says you only need 3gb of ram is just wrong. just now, i was running 3.3gb. i don't run intensive 3d programs and such. i was running my multiple daily normal apps.

browsing(zilvia), video (watching strikeforce), and my game(kingdomhereos). no other apps were running.

i avg 2.9gb normally and my highest usage ive seen was close to 6gb (running scans).


Haha I missed someone saying that. Windows 7 64 bit requires 2 mandatory just for the OS. I couldn't imagine only needing one GB to run a game like crysis.

Personally I think 6gb is more them enough for most people, especially if it is running at 1066. I run 8 but meh ram is cheap.

[FRpilot]

I run 8 but meh ram is cheap.

this is the first time i heard someone say ram is cheap. i wasn't into computers about a year ago, but people were saying ram has tripled in price since then. i got a 4gb dual channel ddr3 kit for about $110 so about $55/2GB.

[Future240]

this is the first time i heard someone say ram is cheap. i wasn't into computers about a year ago, but people were saying ram has tripled in price since then. i got a 4gb dual channel ddr3 kit for about $110 so about $55/2GB.


I wasn't either. It may or may not have tripled but in grand retrospect of what I am willing to spend it is cheap to me.

[1on1]

the lower-end ddr3 ex:800 and 1066 are cheap.

the memory i have is a Corsair Dominator 6gb 1866.

Corsair Dominator 6GB 1866 MHz DDR3 review (http://www.guru3d.com/article/corsair-dominator-6gb-1866-mhz-ddr3-review/)

this memory will last for awhile since my current computer is running a LGA775.

for you computer gurus out there, i got a Foxconn Avenger P45. I only seen 3 people in the world who has this board and i am the 4th person.

Quantum Force "Avenger" exposed! :: TweakTown (http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9395/quantum_force_avenger_exposed/index.html)

to me, it beats any board out there and some of the i7 set-ups.

[BOROSUN]

i guess you were right..it does exist!! 5870x2 4gb $1200
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required: 750w 8x8x6 pin

[stinky_180]

Check out this thread:
Build Your Own AMD/Intel Computer Thread III (Updated 6.12.10) - SlickDeals.net Forums (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=553826)

it usually has the best deals on almost all the computer components.

i built my computer about 1.5yrs ago for about 700 dollars (give or take 100). Gigabyte UD3P, E7400, 4gb G.Skill (forgot the exact specs), XFX 9800GT. i play 1080p movies perfectly fine. I played SC2 beta in max settings as well.

[Future240]

That is awesome. That wouldn't even think about fitting in my case lol.

[FRpilot]

i guess you were right..it does exist!! 5870x2 4gb $1200
IykB2qG3ASs
required: 750w 8x8x6 pin

YES! that was the one i was talking about and i remember the article saying that this was the successor to some other badass card released last year! Google'd and found last years card "Asus Mars" (2 GTX285 chips on 1 card with huge amount of memory with huge copper block)

2 full 5870 chips with 4GBs on a single card with HUGE copper block! Shit weighs 5lbs! Faster than 5970 which uses 2 water downed 5870 chips.

$1200 for the Asus Ares is too rich for my blood. I just ordered a "cheap" Sapphire 5770 Vapor X for about $160 for SC2. I guess when the 6000 series comes late 2010/early 2011, i'll try to pick up another 5770 on the cheap and crossfire them.

[BOROSUN]

too bad the ares still cant touch the gtx480 on sli benchmarks.

can't wait too for the 6800, so these prices drop.

[FRpilot]

what about quad crossfire ares vs quad gtx480s. hmm that would be interesting to see.

[BOROSUN]

i think you need a nuclear reactor to power a quad gtx480. it will cause global warming and melt the polar ice caps .

ares x2 xfire
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES_CrossFire/images/heaven_1920_1200.gif
note: its only 4x AA ?? ?? rest, i dont know the settings.

quad sli 1920x1200
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note: this is running 8x aa/ extreme tessellation/ 16x anistropy/ high shader
avg 84.5 fps low 34.2 fps / high 151.2 fps

with lower settings probably hit 100+ fps avg.

[S13shaka]

so the computer is up and running very nice, the p6x58d-e is a great mobo.

a lil disappointed with the 5770 512mb only getting a 6.0 in the windows index, def gonna do a crossfire setup in the near future.

other than that, been doing my reading on OC'ing and gonna do a 3.6 ghz oc in the next few days (idk if ill ever try to take my 920 to 4.0+, shit freaks me out a bit, that and i dont ahve the proper cooling for it) ahhaha.

[GabeS14]

hey every1 was looking for some advice on the PC im trying to build. Monitor, dvd drive, and peripherals aside, I have a $700-800ish budget.

trying to have something that can make sc2 pretty and do 1080p

so far ive been eyeing the intel i7 920, antec 300.

I happen to have a few extra brand new parts Ive been trying to sell for a while now, Ill hook you up if your interested:
Intel I7-920 processor(lga 1366)
Asus P6T motherboard(1366 X58 chipset)
and two GE Force-GT220 1gb ddr3 graphics cards (pci-E 2.0)
ill let em go super cheap..way wayyy below retail if your interested.

hit me up in pm

[joeapple8]

2xsli nvidia 220 1gb ea 150 bucks each
amd quad core 150 bucks
asus mobo 200

[S13shaka]

gabes14 my comp is already up and running, thanks tho

[FRpilot]

Just bought an Intel Core i7 930 today for my next build for overclocking and messing around.

Current build with the p55 chipset/1156 socket is almost complete, which will most likely be left stock clock settings.

[Om1kron]

haha I do tech support for a living and built my computer back in 2005. Fucking beast machine, now it can barely run windows 7.

I don't really play pc games anymore so I have no desire to build some fucking bad ass home computer. I really want to downsize my case and maybe even build a smaller pc with only one optical drive and ssd main drive and a 3 terabyte secondary.

I have an Athalon X2 4200
4 gigs of pc3200 (4 gigs back in 2005 was like god mode)
ATI X1900XT
Asus motherboard.

rest of the specs aren't important, can still boss video games with this rig, but I need some up to date shit to work with. AMD or INTEL highest speed doesn't matter to me anymore. I just want something I can plug up to a 30 inch monitor and run full hd video without a hiccup. Maybe 8 gigs of ram as I do love me some porn.

I'll throw something together and see what the crowd thinks. But I am looking to ditch my Lian Li 2100B case as well.

Ballin ass case, on rims lol

[FRpilot]

do they even make 3tb drives? i thought the norm is 1tb, 1.5tb, and 2tb.

at any rate, a friend asked me "what's the point of computers though? you build the fastest shit to browse the internet?"

most of the things people do for pc benchmarking is probably way overkill to play games. pc building is like car modification. (ie. people tune engines to make 500whp, but in reality, they will only utilize probably 300 or so and rarely run at the peak). i guess it's in the nature of men, especially those with ocd, to build the bestest fastest shit.

isn't there an official computer thread with post of peoples rigs someone started before this thread?

[Future240]

^Yea I started one but this thread wasn't for that. This one was asking for some help. Mine was people who built computers.

[kalypso123]

Solid state hard drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @[email protected]

(as your main, use the mechanical drive as a backup)

[Freddy]

So this is my first build, what do you guys think. This is mostly to do cad/cam related stuff

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Motherboard: Either Asus M4A77T/USB3 or Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3
Ram 6gb DDr3
storage: 1TB WD
vidcard: ATI HD 5770
PSU: Dont know if I should run 600W or 500W?

thanks for the help

[2slow2go]

my friend 500 dollar desktop buuilt a year ago can run sc2 on max settings

[FRpilot]

So this is my first build, what do you guys think. This is mostly to do cad/cam related stuff

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Motherboard: Either Asus M4A77T/USB3 or Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3
Ram 6gb DDr3
storage: 1TB WD
vidcard: ATI HD 5770
PSU: Dont know if I should run 600W or 500W?

thanks for the help

i have a 5770 and a 650w powersupply. i don't think it's needed, but if i want to get another 5770 later, it would be capable of cross firing them w/o getting a new power supply. plus, whats the difference in price, 20-30 from 500w-600w?

[BOROSUN]

watt calculator
Newegg.com - Shell Shocker Deal. Exclusive Jaw Dropping Savings on PC Components and Electronics. (http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index.html)

i got the 955be & 5850 (also 10 fans) on a 650w and i get
the blue screen of death from a simple oc to 3.8ghz while playing bfbc2. i need moar power.

[Freddy]

thanks for that link BOROSUN

[1on1]

This is my current build that should be set-up next week.

Intel 930 i7 Processor
Asus P6X58D Premium
EVGA Nvidia GTX 465 Super-clocked
2x Corsair Extreme Series SSD 256gb (500gb RAID 0)
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Corsair Dominator DDR3 1866mhz 6gb
Corsair H50 CPU Cooler or H70 (if it comes out in time)

what do you guys think?

[FRpilot]

wow that must have set you back at least 1500? but nice setup. thats what i would call a "budget setup" but it still cost money. you still have some premium parts. what case are you running.

[comablack783]

So this is my first build, what do you guys think. This is mostly to do cad/cam related stuff

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Motherboard: Either Asus M4A77T/USB3 or Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3
Ram 6gb DDr3
storage: 1TB WD
vidcard: ATI HD 5770
PSU: Dont know if I should run 600W or 500W?

thanks for the help

Looks Good.. I have that processor and it PWNS.. but, I think for a few bucks more you can go x6? PSU dont get a cheap brand... If you have a compusa near you id buy "Ultra", I believe they come with lifetime warranty, you can just walk in and get it replaced.. GO with the GIGABYTE, has better ratings.. Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P Motherboard Review - AMD 770 - Final Thoughts and Conclusion - Legit Reviews (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/985/7/)

NEWEGG NEWEGG NEWEGG... ALL DAY... look at their cpu section, they have a cpu w/mobo section, excellent deals on both AMD/Intel..Id go AMD, you cant beat their pricepoint/out of the box performance.

[FRpilot]

newegg would be the place to buy all my computer parts if i was not in ca. i still shop quite often from them, and i can't complain because they have great prices and even though they charge tax, i get most things in 2 days.

[1on1]

I am running a Antec 300 case (cheap case but i will do some mods to it). I will probably add another fan on top of the case. I really like this case just because it is very easy to hide a lot of wires (other cheap cases you would hide your wires in the hdd, optical drive bay, or floppy).

the two SSDs cost $750each retail, but I got hooked up (I bought both drives for fairly cheap and my friend gave me the hx1000 PSU for free).

Newegg is where I would buy most of my parts. if not, tiger direct is also a good place. for anyone who is planning to build a i7 930 set-up, try and buy your processor from Micro Center, they cost $200 and is in a retail box.

sad thing is about this, I spoil my computer more than my car. T__T


Here is more information about the SSDs once I RAID them to 0: (this is what type of performance I would get)
http://blog.corsair.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/N64-X2-Raid-0-ATTO.png

[sephiroth99]

personally I wouldn't raid0 SSDs, because you lose TRIM support. You DO get insane performance though :eek:

edit: oops looks like I'm late to the party http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/03/23/intel-releases-trim-for-raid/1 Do carry on :)

[1on1]

hahaha, no problem

[BOROSUN]

you'll be waste $$ if you get x6 now. wait till the new amd start rolling out.

[FRpilot]

if you don't need a desktop in the next year and a half, i would also hold off for the new intel 2011 socket chips are coming out end of 2011 also. i was going to build another i7 930 setup, but i'll just wait on that. i already have a i7 860 desktop and a i7 930 in the works, both are just mild setups.

[1on1]

I am trying to get out of the 775 socket. The motherboard i am getting (ASUS P6X58D Premium) will be able to use the new i7 32nm processors that will be coming out, so I am pretty much set for a couple years.

Once I build my new one, my old computer is going to be a media computer for the TV in the living room.

[sephiroth99]

I am trying to get out of the 775 socket. The motherboard i am getting (ASUS P6X58D Premium) will be able to use the new i7 32nm processors that will be coming out, so I am pretty much set for a couple years.

Once I build my new one, my old computer is going to be a media computer for the TV in the living room.

if you are talking about the new Sandy Bridge microarchitecture, they all use a new socket, either LGA1155 in the mainstream or LGA2011 in the high-end :hs:

Unfortunately, right now, all the Intel platforms are dead ends :(

[1on1]

oh naw, it's the same processor but the making the processor smaller (which does the same speed as a regular 45nm processor). The processor will take less power and won't run as hot, therefore, making it able to overclock more.

I haven't really kept up-to-date in the processor market, so I'll do a little more research on that new processor coming out.

[sephiroth99]

oh naw, it's the same processor but the making the processor smaller (which does the same speed as a regular 45nm processor). The processor will take less power and won't run as hot, therefore, making it able to overclock more.

I haven't really kept up-to-date in the processor market, so I'll do a little more research on that new processor coming out.

ah yes, Intel did make a dieshrink of the Nehalem microarchitecture (codename Westmere) from 45nm to 32nm. sorry about that.

[S13shaka]

sandy bridge looks interesting, im also intrigued as to how well AMD's bulldozer chips are gonna perform

1on1 get the H50, I saw a couple of graphs about performance between the two, the extra C degree or two drop that you gain with the H70 isnt worth the extra 40 bux

also performance-pcs and frozencpu have good prices on things

[FRpilot]

only thing that concerns me is that sandybridge memory controller will support quad channel memory, but only 1 dimm socket for each channel. i hope intel thinks 4gb dimm sticks will be cheap, because how is that going to be better than tri channel, 6 dimm slots of current x58 chipset.

[1on1]

@s13shaka yes and true, I am reconsidering it and doing a little more research on it. I seen a couple mods that people do, and I still wonder if the pump noise, on the H50, has been better on the H70.

I just processed my order on my motherboard (ASUS PX658D Premium and EVGA GTX 470) about two hours ago, and I hope to get it by wednesday.

I just decided to get the GTX470 since it was only a few dollars more than the original GTX465 that I was going to purchase.

[Freddy]

Is an SSD so much more advantageous than a HDD? was checking some ssd for my main drive (OS, programs like gibs cam) around 60GB add 1XX$ to my build. So want to make sure it worth it.

[1on1]

SSD will make your computer run much more better. the big advantage is their read/write speed compared to regular hds.

here are two videos that will make you decided to go SSD.

YouTube - WD Raptor vs Intel X25-M, programs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Jz7IMwBt4)
YouTube - SSD Follow Up OCZ Vertex 60GB versus WD Raptor 160GB 10000RPM Hard Drive Linus Tech Tips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhYYx9ckR4Y)

I'll post a video once my computer is built tomorrow (after I install all my games and programs).

[S13shaka]

yea SSD is worth it, if you have SATA III on your mobo spend the extra 20 bux or so on those SSDs instead of the SATAII ones

read news that by the end of 2010 early 2011 SSDs will be brought down to near $1/gig

[ronmcdon]

I think it's difficult to justify SSD right now if there really is going to be a huge drop in price within a year or so.
I have a pair of 300gig sata velociraptors w/ raid 0 on my work computer.
honestly I can't tell that much difference between that and my home computer using a corsair 256gig ssd
the price difference is huge though


Newegg.com - Corsair P256 CMFSSD-256GBG2D 2.5" 256GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233085)
Newegg.com - Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136322&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Hard+Drives-_-Western+Digital-_-22136322)

[BOROSUN]

try getting the ssd 355mb read. the crucial can get up to 380s.

raptors 0raid 180mb avg is pretty close to that corsair ssd.
http://www.digitalreviews.net/cache/multithumb_thumbs/1___digitalreviews_images_reviews_2010_western_dig ital_raptors_hdtune_vs_300_r0_benchmark__2_.gif

[1on1]

i finally did a benchmarking test on my first run, tell me what you guys think?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/1on1/a6a56ae7.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/1on1/6f4f10fd.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/1on1/529352e2.jpg

as it sits now, i still need to purchase another fan for the H50.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/1on1/62724bfb.jpg

[FRpilot]

that looks pretty impressive.

[S14DB]

Looks Good.. I have that processor and it PWNS.. but, I think for a few bucks more you can go x6? PSU dont get a cheap brand... If you have a compusa near you id buy "Ultra", I believe they come with lifetime warranty, you can just walk in and get it replaced.. GO with the GIGABYTE, has better ratings.. Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P Motherboard Review - AMD 770 - Final Thoughts and Conclusion - Legit Reviews (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/985/7/)

NEWEGG NEWEGG NEWEGG... ALL DAY... look at their cpu section, they have a cpu w/mobo section, excellent deals on both AMD/Intel..Id go AMD, you cant beat their pricepoint/out of the box performance.

They seemed to have discontinued the GA-MA770T-UD3P:
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128392)

Have the GA-MA770T-UD3:
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128451)

[1on1]

thank you, in the future, i am planning to pick up another 470.