Front Camber - Need More !

[yingiang]

Guys,

I have PBM coilovers on my s14 and it seems they top out at -2.5 close to -3 camber for the front..is there any way to get a more camber? I've searched and I can't seem to find anything other than new front lower control arms that cost a grip or essentric bolts which seem to be not the good way to go..please help !

Rich

[Slidin' Sam]

LCA's are your answer (I know you didn't want to hear that).

[fliprayzin240sx]

You can slot out the coilover mounting holes for the knuckles to give you a bit more camber if PBM isnt already slotted.

[yingiang]

they are not slotted but id have to measure and drill them out to be like dmax..ill ask my shop

[Allmtoreg]

s14 LCAs are longer which makes more camber

[Carbomb]

s14 LCAs are longer which makes more camber

in a a13...

[codyace]

Call me mr simple, but why would you need more than -3??

[cleantune]

So If you do end up slotting the plates, this may help depending on the situation. I saw this in a mag I had a while back. Interesting mod IMO. (mainly for stability/ durability of the suspension peices though)

TEIN Suspension Upgrades & More - Project S13 - Sport Compact Car Magazine (http://www.modified.com/tech/sccp_0902_tein_suspension_upgrades_project_s13_tec h/project_s13.html)

[yingiang]

I want at least -3 degrees up front..its maxed at about -2.5

maybe i need to get it back on the alignment rack and just make sure all the other adjusting rods are set right

[Jonnie Fraz]

Battle Version weld in adjusters (http://www.mamsparts.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=273&products_id=37793&osCsid=da2ab16ce0e9e0af53313c7f3ce4b559)
I have done a few of these...very nice set up.

[yingiang]

those are for s13 it lists..

[codyace]

those are for s13 it lists..

Get Godspeed Arms and press in QA1 bearings then?

[yingiang]

codyace

i actually just googled and found the godspeed arms and they make them for s14...thank you for the heads up ! i think this is what I will do. thanks again !

rich

[codyace]

codyace

i actually just googled and found the godspeed arms and they make them for s14...thank you for the heads up ! i think this is what I will do. thanks again !

rich

JUST MAKE SURE YOU PRESS IN BETTER QUALITY BEARINGS

This is key for a better army and for proper performance.

Here is mine after the conversion. They were originally ricer red from godspeed, but i had to hide them up:
http://www.codyace.com/albums/godspeed_flca_with_qa1_bearings/flca_09_001.sized.jpg

Check out this guide that Def created on how to do the conversion: HOW TO: Ultimate budget front LCAs - Nissan Road Racing Forums (http://www.nissanroadracing.com/showthread.php?t=1407)

[Slidin' Sam]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

I can't view this website from work...can anybody give me a rundown on it!?

[yingiang]

codyace, thanks for the link !
they look awesome...but bad part is that im not really a do it yourselfer...let me ask my shop if they can do it. are the factory bearing that bad? would it be a waste of time/money to get the lower control arms and use the bearings it comes with?

rich

[Carbomb]

codyace, thanks for the link !
they look awesome...but bad part is that im not really a do it yourselfer...let me ask my shop if they can do it. are the factory bearing that bad? would it be a waste of time/money to get the lower control arms and use the bearings it comes with?

rich

just cut n weld yours and make em longer...then reweld. done n done

[singlecamslam]

those are for s13 it lists..


Same crap, same part number for s13 and s14

[Jonnie Fraz]

Same crap, same part number for s13 and s14

Thank you!

[codyace]

codyace, thanks for the link !
they look awesome...but bad part is that im not really a do it yourselfer...let me ask my shop if they can do it. are the factory bearing that bad? would it be a waste of time/money to get the lower control arms and use the bearings it comes with?

rich

They really are pretty shitty, that's for damn sure. Sure a shop could do this modification, but it will involve you also drilling your stock spindle out to 3/4, as the 'def modified arms' are designed in a way to level out your control arms to promote a better roll center. It's a bit overkill if you just want to be slammed and drive around. If you are into any sort of motorsport, it's a great way to go.

Regardless, -3 camber is still pretty rediculous for a street car, whats the purpose, other than fitting large tires?

[yingiang]

codyace

I really wont know for sure until I get my new wheels in the next few weeks but main reason for trying to get more camber is primarly to fit larger wheels. My car is daily driver with -2.5ish camber currently. I think maybe my last set of wheels had a much tighter fit then my new ones I am getting in the next few weeks but won't know until then. If they clear the fender better then my last wheels then I will be fine with the camber I have.

Last front wheels were
17x9.5 high face 0 offset

new are
18x10 super low face +5 offset

I was thinking getting control arms just to get -.5 degree more camber was overkill just to fit the wheels so I may just slot the bottom mount bracket on the coilovers to get that little bit if I need.

Rich

[yingiang]

Heres pic of the front...best ones I got so you can see how close/flush it is to the fender. It actually ate away at my passenger side.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_go0D_mz2Scs/S7GslVBacHI/AAAAAAAAEVI/BFlC2J2BPCg/s800/IMG_6473.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_go0D_mz2Scs/S7BHcZTSjxI/AAAAAAAAEUM/auQ0rwiYqD4/s800/IMG_6495.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_go0D_mz2Scs/S7BHeq1Nc3I/AAAAAAAAEUU/tlAa6VpP0wU/s800/IMG_6464.jpg
Sorry the wide angle lense makes my front end look super long..

also thinking about using a 225/35 or 40 series to fit the new fronts...we will see. then i wont have to notch out my coilovers or do anything. i have about -2.75 camber in front in the pics

[nieko]

that thing is pretty hot bro <3

[singlecamslam]

Same crap, same part number for s13 and s14


Gives you more camber and gets rid of that crappy bushing, those things are awesome.

[yingiang]

that thing is pretty hot bro <3

thanks !

thanks everyone for your help. ill update what i end up doing in the new few weeks !

rich

[norcaldrifter]

with that strut tower notching.. is that still compliant with FD pro am? i know your not supposed to mod coilover mounting and suspension mounting.

[!Zar!]

Couldn't you just elongate the camber slots? I did that to my superdrifits and it was fine.

But honestly, you don't need more than 3*.

[rage]

increasing the track width (new arms) won't help with wheel fitment anyway