Adjustable tie rods = more steering angle?

[HYPNOTIK]

After watching this video I understand that adjustable tie rod ends give you significantly more steering angle, How? I just don't get how it would give you more angle, lengthening would give you toe in. Can someone please explain it too me?
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[Black240Ct]

its how the knuckle hits the bump stop
and that little spacer give your more movable room on your steering rack. thus giving more angle before the bumpstop hits the knuckle

[LayNLow]

After watching this video I understand that adjustable tie rod ends give you significantly more steering angle, How? I just don't get how it would give you more angle, lengthening would give you toe in. Can someone please explain it too me?
KP5zzyAmXi0

Adjustable tie rods dont give you more angle. The spacer they installed is what gives you more angle. The spacer is the same diameter as the rod coming out of the rack, so therefore the tie rods can go inside the rack a longer distance thus giving you more steering angle.
Were you talking about the heim jointed outter tie rods? I didnt get that far when I posted. But probably because the end itself is smaller.

[Pandapants]

Did you guys watch the video? They installed a spacer, ground down the knuckle and installed kazama ends. Each mod increased the angle. Im sure if I spoke Japanese I would know, but my best bet is it has to do with the bump steer adjustment and heim of the outers.

[HYPNOTIK]

I'm talking about the kazama ends, I know how the spacer gives more angle.

[liv2drift045]

all the ends allow you to do is adjust toe in and out.... not add angle... iirc

[HYPNOTIK]

all the ends allow you to do is adjust toe in and out.... not add angle... iirc

Did anyone even watch the video? After each part they measure the steering angle to show what difference it made. At the end he adds the kazama tie rod ends and there is clearly alot of steering angle gained.

[shogun!]

1. The spacer let the inner part of the tie rod go further inside the steering rack and thus give more steering angle.

2. Grinding down the bump stop on the knuckles also give more steering angle (shorter bump stop). It akes it possible to use that gained steering angle the spacers create.

3. The tie rod end angle down the tie rod to make it come more parallell to the ground. This is used to remove the bump steer that occurs when the car is lowered. When they are more parallell, they contribute a bit to the steering angle too.

This video explain rather clearly what bump steer is.
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My install:

http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/281673-shogun-stock-700bhp-extreme.html#post3056157

1. I use Tein Tie rods. They are beefier and have longer thread where the spacer sit. Since the locking plate is removed, I secure the thread with Loctite.

http://200sx.kicks-ass.net/shogun/img4aeb7144c4d88.jpg

2. I do not grind down the bump stop on the knuckle. Instead I use Driftworks lower arms with adjustable bump stops.

http://200sx.kicks-ass.net/shogun/img4b29e610c97cc.jpg

http://200sx.kicks-ass.net/shogun/img4b29e61543c07.jpg

3. To remove bump steer, I use SPL Tie rod ends. The spacers are used to move the ball joint downwards equal to the lowered ride height timed in with the coil overs.

http://200sx.kicks-ass.net/shogun/img4aeb713999bf1.jpg

http://200sx.kicks-ass.net/shogun/img4c123ed9cc0a5.jpg