How bout that..

[Zemus]

my dads a machanic, and we where talking about how i wanted to work with the stock engine (want to do a custom turbo on a ka24e), and he is like "Do you have any idea how big of a pain in the ass it is to put in all that stuff, it would be better to get it out of a nissan that already has turbo" :Light bulb falshs above my head:  How bout the VG30DET, he agreed, and here is the thing

#1 Whats the average price of one at a junk hard

#2 What all do i have to do to get it in their and working

#3 How much is the mounting and stuff

[Kid Zelda]

#1 Whats the average price of one at a junk hard


Your average price may not be my average price, go ask around in person or call some yards up.


#2 What all do i have to do to get it in their and working

If your Dad is a Mechanic, he should know, ask him.

#3 How much is the mounting and stuff

WTF are you talking about ?

[Coldsun]

Kid Zelda what the ####
LOL
that was like the worst most non helpful reply ever
if you dont know dont reply.. lol
nah i'm play but oni he is right with some stuff.. you should jus go and check it out...
cuz #s 1,2,and 3 i dont know, hopefully someone ont he board does and will anwser this for you

oh and Zelda when he says mounting he means the mounting need to fit adn hold the new engine if i'm not mistake... you might need a new axle too dude , we'll good luck, hopefully someone that knows the anwser will get back to ya
-Sun

[wherezmytofu]

hint:

-no such thing as a vg30det from the factory
-vg30et = z31 turbo 1984-1989, vg30dett = z32 turbo 1990-1996
- vg30et's &nbsp;go for 150 here <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

(Edited by wherezmytofu at 5:49 pm on Feb. 27, 2002)

[Zemus]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from wherezmytofu on 5:48 pm on Feb. 27, 2002
hint:

-no such thing as a vg30det from the factory
-vg30et = z31 turbo 1984-1989, vg30dett = z32 turbo 1990-1996
- vg30et's go for 150 here <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

(Edited by wherezmytofu at 5:49 pm on Feb. 27, 2002)
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yes, u already told me on aim, haha, yea

[S13Grl]

So, then why did you make this topic?

[Fuzzy Ewok]

Don't know about most of it... &nbsp;Though I do know I've seen remanufactured VG30DETT's for about 3000-3200. &nbsp;I think I remember seeing something about a place that did that swap, but I'm not sure. &nbsp;Anyone remember? &nbsp;I've been wondering about the feasability of this as a curiosity. &nbsp;I'm sure someone around here knows more.

[Zemus]

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So, then why did you make this topic?
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No just the VG30et thingy, not about the swap

[AceInHole]

If you think swapping is easier than mounting a turbo, think again. &nbsp;

[Zemus]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from AceInHole on 6:25 pm on Feb. 27, 2002
If you think swapping is easier than mounting a turbo, think again. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

have u even seen what your have to do to make a 90' SOHC turbo man, its a pain in the ass, and if i can get the engine for cheap and it already has turbo, and my dad will install it for me, and make all the custom shit, so its easyer for him and me he says

[s13240sxman]

I know of some where you can get a sr20det for 1500 and install for a grand and i guess that would be an engine with a turbo stock if thats what you mean and all but yeah I guess that not really &quot;CHEAP&quot; now is it......? Oh well! I TRYED!

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Oni on 8:28 pm on Feb. 27, 2002
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If you think swapping is easier than mounting a turbo, think again. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

have u even seen what your have to do to make a 90' SOHC turbo man, its a pain in the ass, and if i can get the engine for cheap and it already has turbo, and my dad will install it for me, and make all the custom shit, so its easyer for him and me he says
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yes, I have seen what it takes to turbo a '90 SOHC. HMP makes a &quot;kit&quot; that got their car to 200hp, which isn't bad at all.

Swapping to an SR or CA would be easier than swapping to a VG. IMO, swapping to a VG wouldn't be worth it anyways.

EDIT:
Ok, what are you going to need at LEAST to swap a VG??
Custom headers to a custom exhaust, since from what I recall reading the disputes between daperformance and unstable-hybrids, the cross over pipe will knock the firewall unless you place the engine further up, requiring custom mounts and cutting to fit the shifter in an awkward position.
You'll also need more custom piping if you plan on going turbo for the intake. &nbsp;You'll also need a custom driveshaft since from what I heard the tranny was a bit longer. &nbsp;The tranny also doesn't directly bolt up to the stock mounts, which means more custom mounts.
Then you'll need to completely rip out your current wiring harness, and install a VG's harness with a VG ecu, not to mention trying somehow to hook it up to your 240's dash or somehow try to fit a 300's gauge cluster and temp control into the 240... which is more custom crap to add to it all.
You'll also need the fuel pump... yada yada... new lines to connect all the vacuum and A/C and radiator lines, find someway to figure out how to wire it to the pop ups, pray that you'll have the same amount of connections so that you can splice it to your parking, head, tail, and side lights.... &nbsp;
well, yeah, that IS easier than having a log manifold made for a couple hundred bucks, some intake piping for around a hundred, picking up a used T3 off a z31 or something similar, and running a rising rate fuel pressure regulator...... &nbsp;

wow.... I've got it all backwards huh??

:bigrolleyes:

(Edited by AceInHole at 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1 pm on Feb. 27, 2002)

[240sxracer]

hey ace in hole does hmp have a website

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 240sxracer on 10:57 pm on Feb. 27, 2002
hey ace in hole does hmp have a website
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http://hmpracing.hypermart.net/
<a href="http://hmpmotorsports.hypermart.net/turbokit.htm

Its" target="_blank">http://hmpmotorsports.hypermart.net/turbokit.htm

Its</a> a crappy site... but just an example of what's been done to the SOHC's. &nbsp;

This is probably a better example of what's been done to the SOHC's
Adam Hutchinson's SOHC turbo:
http://www.sdsefi.com/features/oct01240.htm

[240sxracer]

thanks ace in the hole now i know where i can get a kit for my car possibly

[Zemus]

For me it would be worth it, &nbsp;i hear is isent as hard as all of that, and my dad has done shit like this before, and it will be cheaper than getting a motor from japan, and instead getting one from a junk yard, i can get one for around 300, a turbo vg30et, it might be cheaper but still alot of work, for me it is worth it, i can do shit to the engine and still have a car that drives, and then once im ready to drop it in all will be ready, instead of doing all this shit to the stock engine

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from wherezmytofu on 5:48 pm on Feb. 27, 2002


-no such thing as a vg30det from the factory
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Actually there was. &nbsp;The Nissan Cedric in Japan (a luxery car) had a vg30det and like one or two people in the states have actually swapped them into 300zx's.

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from ca18guy on 9:52 am on Feb. 28, 2002
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-no such thing as a vg30det from the factory
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well he was talking about getting it from a us junk yard.....soo...im pretty sure he wasnt talking jdm <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>....u nazi mod!

Actually there was. The Nissan Cedric in Japan (a luxery car) had a vg30det and like one or two people in the states have actually swapped them into 300zx's.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

[Zemus]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from wherezmytofu on 1:41 pm on Feb. 28, 2002
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-no such thing as a vg30det from the factory
-</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
well he was talking about getting it from a us junk yard.....soo...im pretty sure he wasnt talking jdm <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>....u nazi mod!

Actually there was. The Nissan Cedric in Japan (a luxery car) had a vg30det and like one or two people in the states have actually swapped them into 300zx's.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>I know ive heard that, i sounds ok, but its JDM

[wavetwister]

the vg30dett won't really fit into the s13 chassis. people have already tried. it's a very difficult swap. the only swap that i know of is the vg30et, the z31 turbo motor. i know of an rb20det swap, a current rb25 swap, and an rb30 (from the r31 skyline) swap. you can see the vg30et, and rb20 swap on www.unstable-hybrids.com
and you can see the rb30 swap if you look through nissansilvia.com. the rb25 swap you can ask who's doing it, i forgot, but he's on the 240sx.org mailing list.

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Oni on 11:11 am on Feb. 28, 2002
For me it would be worth it, i hear is isent as hard as all of that, and my dad has done shit like this before, and it will be cheaper than getting a motor from japan, and instead getting one from a junk yard, i can get one for around 300, a turbo vg30et, it might be cheaper but still alot of work, for me it is worth it, i can do shit to the engine and still have a car that drives, and then once im ready to drop it in all will be ready, instead of doing all this shit to the stock engine
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so basically you're looking for the harder way of doing things which WILL inevitably cost more and take MUCH more time.... I see. &nbsp;Well, that's all you had to say.

Also, who said &quot;it wasn't as hard as all that&quot; ?? &nbsp;It's actually quite harder.... &nbsp;maybe you should check with the people that have worked on this swap already???

if you really want to do this swap then by all means, go for it. &nbsp;it's definitely something original. &nbsp;honestly, it doesn't look like its worth it, and is NO WHERE NEAR as easy as turbo'ing any KA or swapping to an SR. &nbsp;also, if memory serves me, swapping an older engine into a newer chassis is just as illegal as swapping a JDM engine in...

Just remember though: swapping to a VG will take longer, cost more, and most likely will not have the power to justify it in the end, so don't say I didn't warn ya. &nbsp;



wavetwister: &nbsp;unstable's vg30et swap wasn't done last I knew.... &nbsp;daperformance supposedly completed a lot of the swap but since they haven't put much up I don't think it's fully done. &nbsp;From what I've heard, there's just been too many fitment issues to work around requiring custom fabbing to solve (which turns more down time on top of everything else).

[MyFirst240SX]

I emailed DAperformance. &nbsp;He finally has the VG in but he is having a fuel delivery problem. &nbsp;My question is this. &nbsp;You pay 300 bucks for a raged out Vg. &nbsp;get a tranny. &nbsp;Rebuild everything. &nbsp;Custom do Everything that touches your new engine or. &nbsp;Pay 1900 for a SR, low mileage Engine/tranny wiring harness and a direct bolt in. &nbsp;Get More Hp but less torque(i think)
SO why is that more worth it to u?