View Full Version : NV F20c swap for s13-COMPLETE
afishysilvia
05-26-2010, 11:22 PM
Up for sale is an f20c complete swap for the nissan s13. The parts are as listed that come with the swap
Bottom end
K24 Crankshaft-86mm stroke
*H22 connecting rods-Machined 2mm on each side to fit k24 crank
stock oil pan
*Stock cylinder walls
Head
Stock valves and valve springs
Brian Crower Stage 3 Exhaust cam (part #BC0062)
Stock Intake Cam
Transmission is in great condition, shifts smooth, and brand new transmission oil (Honda Oem)
ACT lightweight flywheel and stage 3 clutch.needs new TOB
Custom Driveshaft ONLY MADE FOR THIS CONVERSION..Made custom by Drivelines Incorporated
Extension bracket for shifter, you will need to make your own shifter
I have an AEM adjustable fuel pressure regulator and RC 750cc injectors if you like them upon request (extra)
Complete Ap1 wiring harness for s2000
AEM plug and play EMS
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I recommend you have the connecting rods cracked tested by a machine shop just to be safe if re-installing these back in the motor
The cylinder walls MUST be bored out due to VERY MINOR nicks . Any machine shop who specializes in LS1 motors or FRM sleeving can bore this motor and make it like new!!!. The current pistons are all ruined (cracked ring lands). They are 87mm bore pistons. This motor requires.25mm bored to fit new 87.25mm pistons. These pistons can be purchased from majecstic honda online for $49.75 a piece for the pistons. Or you can go crazy and drop a forged setup in this and make it a beast!!.. The motor will not come with exhaust manifold. The AEM ems i dont have the exact serial number to give u the model, but it is the plug and play for the s2000.
This motor was the first and original F24C hybrid coversion made by Design Craft Fabrication. The complete swap does come with custom motor mounts and transmission mounts. There will need to be modification to the cross member in order for the oil pan to clear the cross member. The oil pan has already been modified to clear the sway bar. Also spacing the cross member bolts is needed as well to have extra room.
The motor comes AS IS, and i WILL NOT TAKE OFF ANY PARTS,. If you would like the fuel pressure regulator and injectors let me know and ill will give u a price.
Im sure im missing af few things, so let me know if you have any questions.Once again this motor is not assembled and will need some minor work
Price is $5000 FIRM..I am willing to trade for a built ka-t or sr20..
I can answer any and all question you have about the swap and/or motor. I do have TONS more picture upon request.Thanks!!
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/redlinesi10/IMG_0857.jpg
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/redlinesi10/s13K/253.jpg
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afishysilvia
05-27-2010, 04:27 AM
If anyone has a built sr or ka-t let me know, im interested in a trade, need to get this s13 running asap!:2f2f:
afishysilvia
05-27-2010, 06:06 PM
If anyone if interested in the head,short block, tranny or ems, let me know and i will sell individually...
afishysilvia
05-28-2010, 12:53 AM
bummmmmpppppp
afishysilvia
05-28-2010, 04:17 AM
Going back and looking, there were a few key factors i left out lol..
The hybrid bottom end of this motor (k24 crank 99mm stoke, h22 rods 87mm bore) makes a displacement of a 2.355 (2.4L) without touching the cylinder walls! The k24 crank was machined(beveled lip section of the crank) in order to fit the s2000 flywheel. The h22 rods were machined 2mm on each side in order to fit the k24 crankshaft.
Also because the honda s2000 runs Electronic Power Steering (EPS), it does not have a power steering pump, which the s13 requires, so an FD (rx-7) power steering pump and custom bracket were welded in order to make power steering for the s13k.As far as notching the cross member, i can provide specs, and pictures upon request in order to properly fit the f20c.As far as spacing the cross member bolts, that is just to give a little extra comfort room. The transmission tunnel (as i found out the hard way) will need to be banged out a bit right in the thickest part of the bell housing area on the transmission tunnel. The room between the beefy s2k transmission and the transmission tunnel is thinner then a piece of paper (im not kidding lol). So when down revving, theres a horrid noise coming from the T.Tunnel area. Banging the transmission tunnel out a bit will be sufficient and not cause any damage nor look bad because of how far back under the dash it would be. With the radiator, the s2000 motor has both hoses located on the right side of the motor compartment (like the ka- i believe). I do have custom aluminum piping that will fit the radiator if it is designed for the s2000.
All smog parts, and emissions has been removed from this motor, so it is obviously not going to be street legal. As far as power goes with this motor, these are the numbers I saw and you can see.
Stock f20c..2.0L- 9000rpm limit 240hp-150-tq-motor….210whp-130whp (depending on application)
F24c conversion..2.4L-7000rpm limit. 250whp-Not sure on tq..This is NA btw
F24C conversion with current setup (gt28rs,cam, etc).320whp-370tq (on cracked ring lands)
Omg i know!!! a honda motor that makes TQ!!!
A stock f20c with a gt35r will make 430whp+ all day, I don’t really know what this motor with a bigger turbo, and a forged bottom end would do, im guessing 500whp easily. I would recommend keeping the motor as a 2.4 because of the higher tq output as opposed to lower endl of the 2.0L.. The possibilities with this motor is endless, you can either run a FI setup with a forged bottom end, or run a stock h22 pistons and have a beefy vtec 2.4L monster. The reason for the failure of this motor was a few things. When i purchased the car, it already had problems (i didnt know at the time). I believe the last event the car was ran at is when the problem started (which is prolly why the map that came with the car was on the richest fuel map i have ever seen lol) The injectors were also clogged and one was dripping, detonation was an apparent problem from looking at the motor. The cylinder walls to my disbelief are in actually great condition considering the catastrophic failure that occure with the pistons. But because there FRM lined cylinder walls they have to be fixed.The reason i had issues with cracked ring lands, from what i have read h22 stock pistons are notorious for breaking down under loads of boost.I think that covers almost everything I can think of to answer any questions you might have had from the previous post lol. Any question feel free to ask. Thanks!
Heres some links..enjoy!!
http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0609turp_honda_f20c_stroker_build/index.html - This is about the build
http://www.importtuner.com/features/0802_impp_project_s13k_part_two/index.html
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0712_impp_project_s13k_f20c_powered_nissan_240sx/index.html
racerx2k1
05-28-2010, 08:20 AM
If anyone has a built sr or ka-t let me know, im interested in a trade, need to get this s13 running asap!:2f2f:
If anyone if interested in the head,short block, tranny or ems, let me know and i will sell individually...
bummmmmpppppp
Going back and looking, there were a few key factors i left out lol..
The hybrid bottom end of this motor (k24 crank 99mm stoke, h22 rods 87mm bore) makes a displacement of a 2.355 (2.4L) without touching the cylinder walls! The k24 crank was machined(beveled lip section of the crank) in order to fit the s2000 flywheel. The h22 rods were machined 2mm on each side in order to fit the k24 crankshaft.
Also because the honda s2000 runs Electronic Power Steering (EPS), it does not have a power steering pump, which the s13 requires, so an FD (rx-7) power steering pump and custom bracket were welded in order to make power steering for the s13k.As far as notching the cross member, i can provide specs, and pictures upon request in order to properly fit the f20c.As far as spacing the cross member bolts, that is just to give a little extra comfort room. The transmission tunnel (as i found out the hard way) will need to be banged out a bit right in the thickest part of the bell housing area on the transmission tunnel. The room between the beefy s2k transmission and the transmission tunnel is thinner then a piece of paper (im not kidding lol). So when down revving, theres a horrid noise coming from the T.Tunnel area. Banging the transmission tunnel out a bit will be sufficient and not cause any damage nor look bad because of how far back under the dash it would be. With the radiator, the s2000 motor has both hoses located on the right side of the motor compartment (like the ka- i believe). I do have custom aluminum piping that will fit the radiator if it is designed for the s2000.
All smog parts, and emissions has been removed from this motor, so it is obviously not going to be street legal. As far as power goes with this motor, these are the numbers I saw and you can see.
Stock f20c..2.0L- 9000rpm limit 240hp-150-tq-motor….210whp-130whp (depending on application)
F24c conversion..2.4L-7000rpm limit. 250whp-Not sure on tq..This is NA btw
F24C conversion with current setup (gt28rs,cam, etc).320whp-370tq (on cracked ring lands)
Omg i know!!! a honda motor that makes TQ!!!
A stock f20c with a gt35r will make 430whp+ all day, I don’t really know what this motor with a bigger turbo, and a forged bottom end would do, im guessing 500whp easily. I would recommend keeping the motor as a 2.4 because of the higher tq output as opposed to lower endl of the 2.0L.. The possibilities with this motor is endless, you can either run a FI setup with a forged bottom end, or run a stock h22 pistons and have a beefy vtec 2.4L monster. The reason for the failure of this motor was a few things. When i purchased the car, it already had problems (i didnt know at the time). I believe the last event the car was ran at is when the problem started (which is prolly why the map that came with the car was on the richest fuel map i have ever seen lol) The injectors were also clogged and one was dripping, detonation was an apparent problem from looking at the motor. The cylinder walls to my disbelief are in actually great condition considering the catastrophic failure that occure with the pistons. But because there FRM lined cylinder walls they have to be fixed.The reason i had issues with cracked ring lands, from what i have read h22 stock pistons are notorious for breaking down under loads of boost.I think that covers almost everything I can think of to answer any questions you might have had from the previous post lol. Any question feel free to ask. Thanks!
Heres some links..enjoy!!
http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0609turp_honda_f20c_stroker_build/index.html - This is about the build
http://www.importtuner.com/features/0802_impp_project_s13k_part_two/index.html
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0712_impp_project_s13k_f20c_powered_nissan_240sx/index.html
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