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bobmeindertsma

07-10-2003, 11:57 PM

Ok everyone, I am a complete newbie, as you can tell by my number of posts. anyways i had just bought a 92 240 se 5spd. ive owned it for 2 weeks now and i have been on this forum for a week just reading and reading. I loved the car from the get go (handling suspension and the little bit of power) and i just wanted to get a little bit more knowledgable on it. So i fluked out on finding this forum and its help me so much. I want to start modding it out alittle. (air intake, exhaust etc.) little stuff. anyways through all my reading, people keep repeating that 240sx are slow. so my question is... is it worth it to start modding it? ( Injen with or without cold air. not sure what thats all about?)

I really want to mod cause its just funner when the car is faster. (and i would love to beat a 5.0) but more so just for the driving. Love driving
anyways let me know what you guys think.

btw thanks for the wealth of knowledge. I have been staying up late every night loosing track of time on this site.

Thanks Zilvia.net :D

Sundi240

07-11-2003, 12:58 AM

LOL, beat a 5.0 EH!!! Basically I'm the only true Mustang enthusiast on this board.....your not going to beat a 5L Stang. Possibly, if you do the infamous SR swap and do a lot more mods. Then maybe you can beat a stock 5L Stang. But who buys a Mustang and keeps it stock...

Anyways, welcome to Zilvia, and I'm not saying 240's aren't nice cars...I mean hell, they'll outhandle a Stang any day. I flat out admit that...but straight line NOPE! Have fun...

240meowth

07-11-2003, 09:31 AM

hey hey hey, quit shooting down other people's dream. i beat a 5.0 mustang, but it was a convertalbe :p

since ur in CANADA, EH? You have a higher chance of receving a stock VLSD which is more power to ya if you have it.

i personally think the 240sx isn't all that fast, honestly, look at the cars that's out there these days, a stupid accord has 240hp so does minivans... but the hp/weight ratio is also a key factor.

i think you should get to know the car before you start moding it, again most of the time it is the driver that matters the most. If i was to do it all over again, i would of left my car stock performance wise, and played alot w/ the suspension, because that's what the 240sx does best, handling at an exceptionally cheap price.

Bbandit

07-11-2003, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by bobmeindertsma
Ok everyone, I am a complete newbie, as you can tell by my number of posts. anyways i had just bought a 92 240 se 5spd. ive owned it for 2 weeks now and i have been on this forum for a week just reading and reading. I loved the car from the get go (handling suspension and the little bit of power) and i just wanted to get a little bit more knowledgable on it. So i fluked out on finding this forum and its help me so much. I want to start modding it out alittle. (air intake, exhaust etc.) little stuff. anyways through all my reading, people keep repeating that 240sx are slow. so my question is... is it worth it to start modding it? ( Injen with or without cold air. not sure what thats all about?)

I really want to mod cause its just funner when the car is faster. (and i would love to beat a 5.0) but more so just for the driving. Love driving
anyways let me know what you guys think.

btw thanks for the wealth of knowledge. I have been staying up late every night loosing track of time on this site.

Thanks Zilvia.net :D

welcome to zilvia :D

go with suspension and LSD first
if you really want a faster car, its better to save the money for something big (like going forced induction, ka-t, or sr)
i dont like the idea of throwing money to my dying and slow KA
this is what i did to my KA for now : removed intake resonator and put on K&N filter.. thats it

you can make any car as fast as you want as long as you have the money..
i suggest you participate in some local autoX
its fun! and you can learn a lot from that
i have more respect for those who can drive fast in some events rather than the ones who has a fast car but never participate in any events

edit: listen to meoth240.. a very good point right there

sykikchimp

07-11-2003, 09:41 AM

I agree with learning the car stock first. I do have to admit, even if an Intake, and Exhaust only give you 5-10hp, It definately makes the car more fun to drive.

My suggestion would be to go over the car, and replace everything thats busted, and give her a nice tuneup. Make sure you check out all your suspension bushings, and joints. Specifically the T/C rod bushings, and Tie rod ends, and ball joints.. These are probably the most common things to wear out on the 240.

weirdstyles.net

07-11-2003, 09:42 AM

If I could do it all over again, I wouldnt have wasted my time/money on a POS car and motor. The car needs more body work than a 70 Pinto and I bought a used motor that was JUNK.

In retrospeck, woulda saved my money and bought a better base car. Lower milage, better maintained.

As for beating 5.0, good luck. Anything is possible, just not exactly probable. Either way, learn your car, mod the shiat out of it and enjoy. The 240s agility is one of its best qualities, and you may find yourself looking at the turns ahead, rather than the green light.

more pointless replies by me

s14falcon

07-11-2003, 02:59 PM

You need to make the decision, whether you want it to be a little more fun, or if you want to beat mustangs. For more fun, do some basic mods, i saw an article where intake, pulleys and exhaust added a little over 20hp throughout the powerband. To beat a mustang, you're gonna need forced induction, either turbo the ka or go sr.
Also, dont forget about the suspension.

the head

07-11-2003, 03:07 PM

if you want to consistently take down mustnags shoot for the low 13 to mid 12 quarter times it should take care of most street driven mustangs
to do this with a 240 will require boost KA or SR and mustangs will be Own3d

Sundi240

07-12-2003, 03:26 AM

Well at least you don't have the Civic mentality "Oh, I can beat a Mustang w/ my Intake."

Sorry bud, unless you do MAJOR mods, you just won't beat a Mustang in the straight-line.

1992 Ford Mustang GT 5L 302 V8. 225hp/300tq stock. With gears and exhaust alone it will run mid 13's.

Add an air intake, headers, upgrade fuel/ignition system, throttle body, perf chip, upper/lower intake manifold, camshaft, heads and it will easily hit low 11's. Add a supercharger and 10's are easily in reach. Done for fairly cheap as well...

So, no, you will not be able to take a Stang.

nrcooled

07-12-2003, 03:58 AM

Nice pickup on the '92. My suggestion is to learn the car and enjoy it stock for a while. Like sykikchimp said fix all the broken stuff. Then start to participate in events to really use the 240. Then you will know exactly what you need to do to the car.

Sundi- I smoke Stangs all the time and was barely beat by a '02 Cobra. I have nothing against Rustangs (j/k) but they really aren't that fast. I give more props to '03 Cobras and most z28 and SSs...mostly 'cause I like the F-body more.:boink:

ca18guy

07-12-2003, 06:27 AM

rofl, I think all you guys are vastly over estimating stock 5.0s :p

rufrydrsc2

07-12-2003, 10:05 AM

Sundi240, you aren't the only diehard mustang guy on this forum. There is little out there that will beat a mustang, especially for the money. You can pick up a nice 89-93 GT for about 4 grand or less, or a nice 94-98 GT for 8 grand and under. Small mods to their motors and you get big returns. I love my 240, but unless I'm pushing alot of boost I will always decline when challenged by a mustang. Unless it's a V6 though, and then have your fun and gloat that you got a 'Stang. Why do you think that all the pro racers in just about any field use V8's, cause nothing replaces displacement. Take a $4,000 GT, slap a turbo on it at 12 psi and then find the nearest Vette to challenge, try that with any 4 cylinder. Still love my 240 though.

weirdstyles.net

07-12-2003, 12:01 PM

is this going to turn into the Domestic vs. Import crap? Cause Ill just cancel my Zilvia.net magazine subscription right now, and return all my craftman shiat...

btw, Craftsman has a shweeet box (two level, ball bearing, liftlatch, black rollaway) for like 500 bux...nice.

Anyway...stangs rule, drove an SVT loved it, drove a GT loved it. Drove a stock 90 240sx...loved it

who the hell cares...

On an Im a :mrmeph: side note: ever notice, sorta, kinda in a way, that stangs are the Civics of the Domestic world?

I was in debate of my next new car. Should I keep my woderful sohc and build a suspension beast, while I purchase an onxy black 98 Transam... or sell the SOHC and Purchase a 98 MCS14?

I share a very deep respect for the 240SX, I love her to death. The suspension capabilites are endless, and the speed really is there. But how can you contend with a gorgeous/aggresive car with a throaty V8? Do me a fav, dont discuss this, It will only contribute to the on going Stang vs 240 debate...

MorganS13

07-12-2003, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by rufrydrsc2
Unless it's a V6 though, and then have your fun and gloat that you got a 'Stang.

my friend has a 13 second V6 stang, talk about a sleeper.. i wouldn't rule them out that fast ;)

Sundi240

07-12-2003, 01:15 PM

nrcooled, either the Stangs you were racing were V6's, ****ty drivers, or weren't trying. You have an SR, what do you run?

ca18guy, what the hell are you talking about? of course Stangs are fast stock. nuts when even slightly modified.

rufrydrsc2 and WeirdStyles know what they're talkin about.
WeirdStyles, hell yea get the Trans Am. haha had to say it.

ca18guy

07-12-2003, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Sundi240

ca18guy, what the hell are you talking about? of course Stangs are fast stock. nuts when even slightly modified.

No they are not that fast stock, the 5.0 is not exactly a world beater and the new GT's are quick but not exactly a dominating street car like you guys are making them sound. I guess we just have different standards of what is fast :dunno:

Nismo241

07-12-2003, 01:40 PM

A good friend of mine has a 92 5.0 with cai, headers and full exhaust, I walk all over him with my 240. Even when I had the KA I still beat an LX 5.0. Mustangs are by no means fast. Maybe an 03 cobra, but I still pulled one of those. the 5.0 stock is a mid/low 15 second car. Bottom line, 225hp isn't alot at all, the torque in someways makes up for it but what happens when you hit higher gears....it's falls on it's face. I"ve watched a stock LX 5.0 on slicks run a 14.8, and he wasn't a ****ty driver, his other car was a 9 second 5.0 It's very possible for a N/A 240 to beat a stock 5.0 .

MorganS13

07-12-2003, 02:12 PM

since when are low 14s and maybe 13s with a good driver fast? fact is thats what a 5.0 or 4.6 GT stang with an average/good driver and boltons will run. stock 5.0s are NOT remotely fast, i dunno where you got that idea. an SR with boltons is capable of mid-low 13s easily and i've even seen high 12s with traction and a good driver. instead of being so quick to call BS on nrcooled maybe you should look into that stuff?

i actually like f-bodys and stangs so don't think i'm just hating because i drive a 240, hell most of my friends drive stangs or LS1s. call BS on me all you want, but sorry sundi u're not the only muscle car guy on this board ;)

turbo buick > *

Nismo241

07-12-2003, 02:17 PM

I guess he just thinks that 15 sec and 14 sec cars are fast...I don't know.

Jsquared

07-12-2003, 03:49 PM

Possibly, if you do the infamous SR swap and do a lot more mods. Then maybe you can beat a stock 5L Stang. But who buys a Mustang and keeps it stock...
haha, NO. i have 2 friends with modded Fox-bodies and a friend with a near-stock '00 or '01 GT. a $45 mod to my SR and I can beat all 3 of them ($45 mod= wastegate actuator). I paid less for car and swap put together than they did to get their Mustangs stock or near-stock. as far as F-body's, I can hang with most near-stock LT1s but that's about it...

zero.counter

07-12-2003, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by bobmeindertsma
Ok everyone, I am a complete newbie, as you can tell by my number of posts. anyways i had just bought a 92 240 se 5spd. ive owned it for 2 weeks now and i have been on this forum for a week just reading and reading. I loved the car from the get go (handling suspension and the little bit of power) and i just wanted to get a little bit more knowledgable on it. So i fluked out on finding this forum and its help me so much. I want to start modding it out alittle. (air intake, exhaust etc.) little stuff. anyways through all my reading, people keep repeating that 240sx are slow. so my question is... is it worth it to start modding it? ( Injen with or without cold air. not sure what thats all about?)

I really want to mod cause its just funner when the car is faster. (and i would love to beat a 5.0) but more so just for the driving. Love driving
anyways let me know what you guys think.

btw thanks for the wealth of knowledge. I have been staying up late every night loosing track of time on this site.

Thanks Zilvia.net :D
I am sure that it has been said, welcome aboard. Ask questions, the search engine thing is abit overrated, when there are new members showing up everyday with tons of knowledge and experience that was not here before, and new outlooks and takes on how to perform a methdo previously discussed but with an alternative, it can sometimes be useless.

Your car is or can be a gentle monster, waiting to be unleashed upon this bold world...:D . The car is not slow, especially for its weight. The aftermarket for the 89-94 is generous and offers much to the imagination. I would suggest that you head over to Howstuffworks.com to get an explanation of the engine and how combustion works, then after reading, you will understand the importance of having a CAI on a Normally aspirated engine such as ours (KA Ownerz). Again, welcome aboard!

DaveSev

07-12-2003, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Sundi240
LOL, beat a 5.0 EH!!! Basically I'm the only true Mustang enthusiast on this board.....your not going to beat a 5L Stang. Possibly, if you do the infamous SR swap and do a lot more mods. Then maybe you can beat a stock 5L Stang. But who buys a Mustang and keeps it stock...

Wha...? Stock 5.0's aren't that fast. Sure they've got a whole helluva lot more potential, and with a few bolt ons you could get close to 300 hp....but they run like mid 14s stock, am I right? A 240 with a stock blacktop SR should match that.

s13chica

07-13-2003, 02:27 AM

First off...Welcome..you're in for a wild ride..hehe.

Second...I will agree that 5.0's are fast, and with a few mods can be mean, but I also beat one in my 240. We started at about 5mph, but I pulled on it pretty hard. The car was definitly moded, but I'm not sure to what extent since I didn't get the chance to talk with the guy. I know he would have beat me off the line, but from a roll the sr pulls on the 5.0 pretty hard. Damn I love my car :)

Sundi240

07-13-2003, 02:48 AM

Ok, stock 5L Stangs will run around 14 flat stock. That's not insane...no. It will, however, kill a STOCK 240SX. The only people replying here have SR swaps. That puts you at about even with a stock Mustang. Big frickin deal. Put the $3-4grand into the Stang and it will waste even an SR-powered 240.

Nismo241

07-13-2003, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by Sundi240
Ok, stock 5L Stangs will run around 14 flat stock. That's not insane...no. It will, however, kill a STOCK 240SX. The only people replying here have SR swaps. That puts you at about even with a stock Mustang. Big frickin deal. Put the $3-4grand into the Stang and it will waste even an SR-powered 240.

Actually I have a RB powered 240, and I absolutely RAPE my friends 5.0 with I/H/E. They DO NOT run anywhere near a 14 flat stock. I would love to see it. They run in the low 15's high 14's at best. I've had numerous friends that had them, none of them even hitting a 14 expect for one of them that had a Fbody cobra with a semi built motor, running a [email protected] NOw my car will do that the way it sits with room to spare.

Sundi240

07-13-2003, 03:02 AM

You have an RB motor? That's sweet man, seriously. But what did it cost you? More like 5-6K? Thats a hell of a lot of money! And BTW, from what I've read from numerous Stang sites and such, they will run low to mid 14's. With only new gears and exhaust I've heard consistent mid 13's with street tires. That is quite fast for doing basically nothing. At least to me. I plan on building my car up a lot. Personally, a Stang w/ V8 is a much better option for me. It will yield greater results at much less cost. I do give you guys props tho on ur engine swaps, but you guys are obviously not the norm. You have to admit it is quite easy and cheap to get a Stang to run 11's, at least compared to a 240.

Nismo241

07-13-2003, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by Sundi240
You have an RB motor? That's sweet man, seriously. But what did it cost you? More like 5-6K? Thats a hell of a lot of money! And BTW, from what I've read from numerous Stang sites and such, they will run low to mid 14's. With only new gears and exhaust I've heard consistent mid 13's with street tires. That is quite fast for doing basically nothing. At least to me. I plan on building my car up a lot. Personally, a Stang w/ V8 is a much better option for me. It will yield greater results at much less cost. I do give you guys props tho on ur engine swaps, but you guys are obviously not the norm. You have to admit it is quite easy and cheap to get a Stang to run 11's, at least compared to a 240.

Well lets see......RB20 front clip.....1500 shipped, did my own labor...various odds and ends....under 2K for the whole swap. With the price that 240s have been selling for lately(anywhere from 500-1500 in the low range) I could have an RB20 powered 240sx for around 3-4K at the most. And it would own a stock stang.

ca18guy

07-13-2003, 04:06 AM

nrcooled

07-13-2003, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by Sundi240
You have an RB motor? That's sweet man, seriously. But what did it cost you? More like 5-6K? Thats a hell of a lot of money! And BTW, from what I've read from numerous Stang sites and such, they will run low to mid 14's. With only new gears and exhaust I've heard consistent mid 13's with street tires. That is quite fast for doing basically nothing. At least to me. I plan on building my car up a lot. Personally, a Stang w/ V8 is a much better option for me. It will yield greater results at much less cost. I do give you guys props tho on ur engine swaps, but you guys are obviously not the norm. You have to admit it is quite easy and cheap to get a Stang to run 11's, at least compared to a 240.

Sounds like a bunch of keyboard racers to me. Personally I like knowing that I can go to a drag strip and run 13s and then go to the road course and still own 'Stangs!:hammer:

I have not invested much money into my car due to the fact that I do all my own work. I know the SR is not the "end all-be all" of the car world but I also know the 5.0 is not either.

I kill a friend with a '94 5.0 and have raced many of 'Stang in my time and have only lost to the '02 Cobra. Maybe I run into a lot of stock 'stangs... maybe I run into bad drivers.... or maybe, just maybe the MUSTANG ISN'T THAT FAST :doh:

ca18guy

07-13-2003, 04:27 AM

Originally posted by James
{lumbergh}ummm, yeah....great, but a 240 is still not fast{/lumbergh}
So you're saying therefore it sucks? What's your point?
If all you care about is "fast" - (I don't know if you knew this) the Mustang can be made A HELLUVA LOT FASTER than a 240.
Now go out and buy a mustang:D
{G.I. Joe}And knowing is half the battle{/G.I. Joe}:p

I never compared it to a 240sx, hell I never even owned a 240sx. The point is Sundi makes it sound like a stock Mustang is uncontroblly(sp)fast, when in all truth its a average car. Yes it can be made fast but almost anycar can be, and even then someone else is always faster :wtc:

nrcooled

07-13-2003, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by James
o.k. http://www3.sympatico.ca/travischan/PUB/gives.gif

I guess you since you replied. :rolleyes:

BTW- James it's been quite some time since I have seen you post anything relevant and/or usefull. So why don't you take a breake from posting until you get something constructive to say

Nismo241

07-13-2003, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by James
I love when it's implied the 240 is a better/faster car when it has an SR swap compared to STOCK cars.:bash:
When you need to compare STOCK to ENGINE SWAP to support an argument:hammer: .
"Mustangs aren't fast- a 240 w/SR will beat it" -->:bash:

Unless it's RB20-:doh:

Welcome to the boards- prepare to be brainwashed:D

edit:

See what I mean, bwahaha.:rolleyes:

Now, what exactly do you have that makes you so able to talk ****?? What do you think happens on a car forum??? People will argue about what car is faster than what. And why is it that we shouldn't compare a swapped car with a stock car??? The factory didn't leave the 240 guys with alot of options other than going KA-T. ANd no $hit you can make a mustang faster than a 240, but use your head, 5.0L V8. 2.4L I4......it's not exactly rocket science.:mrmeph:

MorganS13

07-13-2003, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by James
I love when it's implied the 240 is a better/faster car when it has an SR swap compared to STOCK cars.:bash:

i know i don't consider an SR 240 anything out of the ordinary, and i'm sure its pretty obvious that a KA (non-turbo) 240 isn't a good comparison

and just to add to the big mess, a stock 5.0 will be very hard pressed to run a low 14.. i'm not gonna say its impossible, but the only stock V8 stangs i've ever seen running low 14s/high 13s stock are 99+ GTs.

also i'd like to see how 11s are easy to get with a 5.0? short of a supercharger i think you're gonna find its not that easy of a goal. please let me in on that secret because me and my friends must be missing something.

turbo buick > *

rufrydrsc2

07-13-2003, 09:14 AM

I believe this is one of those endless debates that will just end up getting stupid. Mustang's are fast, and SR and Ka-T 240's are fast. There are alot of other fast cars and faster cars. There's always a faster car out there. Back to the original point of the post, to get your KA to beat stangs you either need a SR swap or a Ka-T, agreed? Obviously a na KA won't get the hp. That's all I was trying to say.

Sundi240

07-13-2003, 12:47 PM

Ok, the original post was how to beat a 5.0 Stang. Of course a 240SX will not beat a Stang without heavy mods (KA-T). And that's keeping the Stang stock, you can match it. Great. Modding the Stang is relatively cheap and gets you a lot of power. Basic I/H/E will net you a good 40hp and thats conservative. Upper/lower intake manifolds close to 50hp, replace heads another 80+hp. Many other smaller mods, then if you still want more...Supercharger. I guess my point is, and should be obvious, it will be very hard to beat a Stang in straight-line, but you can be proud that a 240 will outhandle the Stang.

Nismo241

07-13-2003, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Sundi240
Ok, the original post was how to beat a 5.0 Stang. Of course a 240SX will not beat a Stang without heavy mods (KA-T). And that's keeping the Stang stock, you can match it. Great. Modding the Stang is relatively cheap and gets you a lot of power. Basic I/H/E will net you a good 40hp and thats conservative. Upper/lower intake manifolds close to 50hp, replace heads another 80+hp. Many other smaller mods, then if you still want more...Supercharger. I guess my point is, and should be obvious, it will be very hard to beat a Stang in straight-line, but you can be proud that a 240 will outhandle the Stang.

Ummmm, I believe a KA-T would be considered heavy mods....but either way, you said it yourself, a stock mustang will run mid 14's(thats pushing it, what I've seen is different, but lets say that is the case), a KA-T will run easy 13's, thats more than matching it bud, and like I said before, my friend has a 92 5.0 with I/H/E and he won't even come close to the 13's. I suggest spending a day at the track and watching what cars actually do.

EDIT***** BTW< heads and intake manifold won't give you 130whp, and the "40hp" for teh I/H/E is still pushing it.

Nismo241

07-13-2003, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by James
RB20 guy: no need to get butthurt.
What "I have" is not important- I guess you believe someone is "cooler" or "smarter" because of what "they have". :rolleyes:
You have an RB20 = explains alot.:cry:
What happens on a car forum? Everyone talks like their car is the best/fastest car in the world and everyone else agrees with them.

:bow:

Oh I'm not butthurt, I woiuld just assume you are one of those guys that has a near, if not stock 240. But either way, what exactly does me having an RB20 say? I seem to have missed it. If you don't like what happens on car forums, then why exactly are you here?

Sundi240

07-13-2003, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Nismo241
Ummmm, I believe a KA-T would be considered heavy mods....but either way, you said it yourself, a stock mustang will run mid 14's(thats pushing it, what I've seen is different, but lets say that is the case), a KA-T will run easy 13's, thats more than matching it bud, and like I said before, my friend has a 92 5.0 with I/H/E and he won't even come close to the 13's. I suggest spending a day at the track and watching what cars actually do.

EDIT***** BTW< heads and intake manifold won't give you 130whp, and the "40hp" for teh I/H/E is still pushing it.
If you read my post carefully, I said that without heavy mods...KA-T (meaning it is a heavy mod) it would match or slightly beat a stock Stang. With only gears and exhaust a Stang will run mid-13's. Thats with barely any mods to the Stang at all....but to make the now KA-T 240 faster it will cost a lot of money (replace turbo, build up, etc).

Nismo241

07-13-2003, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Sundi240
If you read my post carefully, I said that without heavy mods...KA-T (meaning it is a heavy mod) it would match or slightly beat a stock Stang. With only gears and exhaust a Stang will run mid-13's. Thats with barely any mods to the Stang at all....but to make the now KA-T 240 faster it will cost a lot of money (replace turbo, build up, etc).

WTF, I can't make much sense out of this....a stock stang run mid low 15's high 14s if lucky, and thats a real number, I even have some one tape running slower than that even. Gears and exhaust wont put a stang in the 13's unless its a newer GT which is almost already there. BUt either way, a stock mustang doesn't have gears, so a KAT will blow the doors off of it. but either way, I'm done with this thread, the next post will be the same as the last.

zero.counter

07-13-2003, 04:05 PM

Hey
Nismo241, have you dyno tested your car? I was wondering how much better the cars feels now. Also, the aftermarket is not that great for the RB20, so where do you get your parts, out of curiousity. Thanks ahead man.

MorganS13

07-13-2003, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Sundi240
With only gears and exhaust a Stang will run mid-13's.

if its a newer GT then maybe with a good driver. a foxbody 5.0 which is being discussed, no. where are you gettin all of this info anyway? all my info is firsthand and from owners/friends themselves (some who happen to have gears and more than just an exhaust). you can spit out as many numbers as you want but u need some proof to back it up which you're not providing..

we're not trying to bash stangs here, hell i wish i could pick up a cheap 5.0 as a project. you just keep providing all these claims with no proof and expect people who know what they're talking about to believe it.

turbo buick > * :D

ca18guy

07-13-2003, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by MorganS13

turbo buick engine in a 240Z > * :D

Fixed that for you :D

Nismo241

07-13-2003, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by zero.counter
Hey
Nismo241, have you dyno tested your car? I was wondering how much better the cars feels now. Also, the aftermarket is not that great for the RB20, so where do you get your parts, out of curiousity. Thanks ahead man.

Not with my new turbo I haven't, theres a possibility that I popped the headgasket with the turbo. But I can't really decide cause it's running open exhaust nd it puffs smoke that way no matter what, but we'll have to see. Compared to the KA it runs like a raped ape. I hope it'll run OK with the new turbo but we'll see. But either way, parts I get through anyone I can find. If the headgasket is blown I may go through AEBS and get a tomei metal one from then(they are teh US dealer for Tomei) also takakaira.com is where I was going to order my GReddy headgasket from but I cancelled cause I wasn't sure if it was the HG or not. The aftermarket is awesome for teh RB20, just not in America.

zero.counter

07-13-2003, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Nismo241
Not with my new turbo I haven't, theres a possibility that I popped the headgasket with the turbo. But I can't really decide cause it's running open exhaust nd it puffs smoke that way no matter what, but we'll have to see. Compared to the KA it runs like a raped ape. I hope it'll run OK with the new turbo but we'll see. But either way, parts I get through anyone I can find. If the headgasket is blown I may go through AEBS and get a tomei metal one from then(they are teh US dealer for Tomei) also takakaira.com is where I was going to order my GReddy headgasket from but I cancelled cause I wasn't sure if it was the HG or not. The aftermarket is awesome for teh RB20, just not in America.

Cool man, thanks.

Sundi240

07-13-2003, 05:20 PM

This could probably go on and on, but let's try and finish it. From what I've read (articles, forums, etc) and test drove myself, a good driver with a good condition 5.0 will run low 14's stock, a few even claimed high 13's. Of course I cannot prove that. It's not that big of a deal to turbocharge a car and be able to beat a Stock Mustang. With light mods, the Stang will beat the turbocharged KA or SR. With heavier mods (supercharger) a Stang will walk ur cars. No doubt about it. If you can beat a supercharged Stang w/ ur turbo car, then I will be impressed.

Nismo241

07-13-2003, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by Sundi240
This could probably go on and on, but let's try and finish it. From what I've read (articles, forums, etc) and test drove myself, a good driver with a good condition 5.0 will run low 14's stock, a few even claimed high 13's. Of course I cannot prove that. It's not that big of a deal to turbocharge a car and be able to beat a Stock Mustang. With light mods, the Stang will beat the turbocharged KA or SR. With heavier mods (supercharger) a Stang will walk ur cars. No doubt about it. If you can beat a supercharged Stang w/ ur turbo car, then I will be impressed.

I beat an 03 cobra, thats supercharged, impressed?:D

But seriously, this is really my last post in here, you have to actually see things with your own eyes to believe them. I"m sure half o fthe people reading me saying I beat an 03 will think BS but thats OK, you have to see it.

MorganS13

07-13-2003, 05:33 PM

i know a 400hp supercharged auto vert. stang that hasn't run better than 13s (yes, they were trying), hows that for funny :D

Sundi240

07-13-2003, 05:34 PM

How the hell did you beat a 03 Cobra? Was it at the track? What the hell do you run 1/4 mile, like 11 flat? 03 Cobras will run 1/4 high 11's to low 12's stock. Yes, if you seriously did beat an 03 Cobra I am impressed!

s14falcon

07-13-2003, 05:44 PM

High 11's out of a stock cobra? BS. Granted, the only numbers i have are from magazines, but the best i have seen, at least from motor trend, is a 13 flat for the 03, and they have squeezed some pretty good times out of other cars.

Nismo241

07-14-2003, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Sundi240
How the hell did you beat a 03 Cobra? Was it at the track? What the hell do you run 1/4 mile, like 11 flat? 03 Cobras will run 1/4 high 11's to low 12's stock. Yes, if you seriously did beat an 03 Cobra I am impressed!

Well bud, the new cobras have run a best of 13.2, and maybe touch the high 12's with slicks. The only way they will run close to 11's in 'stock' form is with the lightning pulley on teh blower. I would run low 13's high 12's in my car. I have ran oncce at the track but I was having issues with the car all night, it fell on it's face at 6K and was pretty sluggish to get to 6, but I ran a [email protected] I Have beaten several civcs that run mid/low 13's, by about 3-4 cars. The cobra was a close race, I only started to pull when I got into 4th and 5th.

Sundi240

07-14-2003, 03:35 PM

Well I def. give you props then. I might have sounded like Mustangs are the best, I meant they are one of the better cars for cheap performance. I don't care if its import or domestic, if it's fast.

DMC

07-14-2003, 03:54 PM

5.0s are quick but i can still beat the ones ive raced(only 3 or 4 and we did highway races and 1/4 mile) but stock isnt everything i mean i have alot more respect for someone that bought a 17 second car and put time and effort into his car to make it a 15 second car than those owners of stock mustangs who think theyre fast with a stock car. Even though the guy with the 15 second car shoulda chose a better platform car