HKS Hi-Power vs. Apexi N1 Dual

[Saul240]

I know the HKS hi-power is 2.5", and even though Ill be going n/a for a while im not sure if i would want the Apexi N1 dual exhaust system which is 3" piping and which is the probable loss of backpressure for a n/a vehicle....what do you guys think?

[S14TiNMAN]

i got the duals installed yesterday, so far so good. :coolugh:

[019]

depends what kind of look you like. i love the single canister angled look. i have a hiper on my car and i absolutely love it. it's not loud, but rather nice and deep. you have to realize that the n1 dual will be VERY loud n/a. you'll have to consider getting silencers, which are pretty expensive iirc. and i believe the hiper is 2.75" piping. not completely sure about that.

[CrispMofo]

dual n1's coz i neeeeed my mid-end power!

[ruudbwoy]

imma go with the apexi dual:bow:

[97DubTruck]

HKS gives you back more power from what i've seen and the duals are a little annoying and drone sounding. they look awesome though.

[ca18guy]

For a n/a car I would get the HKS, 3 inches (Apexi)is just too large for a fairly stock 2.4L normally aspirated engine. The dual looks really good though :D

[Ghettokracker71]

HKS all the way,heard alot of bad things about the N1 dual(see the current thread "My new exhaust,must see") ....

[GotBoost?]

I'd go with the HKS, i had an N1 on my previous car and its hella loud....attracts too much bad attention.

[S14DB]

Get a HKS 3". 2.4L fills the pipeing nicely.

[CatchMyDrift03]

well you said that you'll be going N/A for a while. i'd still go with the dual N1. it gives you the mid to upper end power. and not for nothing there arent really alot of exhaust companies out there that make the dual N1. it looks awesome and it looks a hell of alot better then the honda guys wxhaust. the HKS is still really cool exhaust also. i guess its more about looks since i mean you'll be going n/a for a while but thinking about turbo. i'd still go with the Dual N1. actually what you should do is what my friend did, and thats, Get the Dual N1's and have a powder coating place coat the exhaust(not the mufflers) red. IT LOOKS SO CRAZY ON MY FRIENDS HATCH! I AM GOING TO DO IT TOO.

[Ghst 01]

I go the dual's and they are not as loud as folks say on a N/a car... they have a nice deep sound... and sound mean at idle.... now that i am boosting they sound a little lees noisy but still good

[SimpleS14]

N1 Dual....why?....because four people I know have them and are happy with them :)

[TurK]

i also went w/ the n1 duals....i think it sounds real nice....it doesnt have the big can look either...

[Salty_X]

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=67651483&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

Get the biggest piece you can.

[nlzmo400r]

couldnt agree with that post more. I like the dual, and hte HKS hiper, but ever considered a single Apexi N1? I just ordered mine yesterday

[AutoRnD]

or... you guys can get the gp sports spec r dual tip... Very reminiscent of the Trust DD

[Sanchi]

im useing my N1 duels bout a year now and i got no problems. They look real nice and its not that loud... i was afrade of it being super loud but it wasent. check out my ghay page...

[DRO916]

anybody know any online shops with good prices for the newer full stainless n1 single? thanks in advance...

[Inland180]

HKS guys. IMO you can never go wrong with HKS!!

[nightwalker]

heard both of them, on NA KAs, and SRs, definitely 3inch HKS all the way. Duals eventually sound like crap after extended use.

[Buffalo Daughter]

fuck i wish i could get trust DD. Thems are the shits. But i've been happy with my HKS hiper for a couple of years now. I think its the shit. Its all about apples and bannanas. What ever you prefer. Max hp (hiper) or good mid range grunt (dual n1)

what ever floats your boat.

[Sirikool]

tough choice. pretty equal right there, but i think i would go for HKS.

[ghostuss]

HKS HKS!! It has a 4in Canister. When the cop pulled me over (not cause of the exhaust but cause I was driving in the mountain road after midnight :coolugh: )he kept on repeating to me and my friend who happen to have n1 Duals, "That is an aweful big exhaust :eek2: .", he didn't give me a ticket :p . so that was cool. HAHA N1 duals, owned :axe:

[95Blue240sx]

Ill take anything over the apexi n1 dual. The exhaust is not good for long term use. I had one that fell apart on me. The tip/tips came off while on the freeway. Cheap welds. Exhaust was about 2 years old when it did it. Sounds nice and looks nice, but quality was disappointing. This is pretty common, also with the single N1.

[punxva]

hks ftw heres what it sounds like on a NA KA, the 80mm piping too :) on my car that is

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/7D0D1D7C-DF84-4DC1-BDE4-72C5454006BF.htm

[!Zar!]

I love dual n1 style exhausts. So I purchaced their dual's for my s14...

One of my worst decisions.

The fitment it horrible, and the weld are trash.

As for sound quality, I love them. Coupled with my sard torque dampener, they sound so sexy. I just wish they performed the way they sounded.

I'm planning on selling them in the near future so I can purchace a higher quality dual n1 setup.

[95Blue240sx]

^^^yeah the sound is the best Ive ever heard. When i had them i was using an intake and Hotshot header. Fucker sounded mean! Id get backfires that scared people hahaha. They were good times. I wonder if they would fit in my bumper.

Zar did yours crack or anything?

[!Zar!]

Mine cracked right were the tips connect to the tube it's self. And one of the hangers broke off.

My car is fairly dumped, and exhaust clearance sucks but I know I didn't bottom out hard on it. So I'm sure it was more of a QC issue than mine. I also forgot to mention I'm running a Megan Racing header, that helps contribute to the sound also.

[Ricks15]

Apexi poor quality welds and heavy as fuck too. HKS is good they sound really good even after all the abuse, and all the climate conditions they still perform pretty good.

[s14dr1ft3r]

HKS...only had it for about 7 months or so but so far NO COMPLAINTS! Sounds nice on my NA KA. Loud but not too loud to draw unwanted attention. Deep enough tone to set off car alarms at VERY low revs.

[2iv0 sx]

i like hi-power!

[CMO]

I had the HKS Hi-power on my S14 and it sounded nice. I have the N1 Dual on my S13 but I like the HKS better.

[WILDACEX187]

my hi power sounds so nice on my sr. not loud at all and its 3.4" piping might i add

[AllenRPS13]

+1 for HKS hi power

[osus14]

i am getting the dual soon, we will see how i like it :)

[mistaanime]

i have a HKS Hi power...so..+1

[BlackZenkiS14]

I have the HKS HiPower(turbo) on my SR, and i love it. Little bit of clearance issues, but it looks great and sounds awsome!!

[burgy240]

I love my N1 dual, I actually got rid of a complete titanium exhaust to keep it! here is a pic on my s14.5 and my old s14. http://community.webshots.com/photo/26640157/1035409081033554135KUMuye#

http://community.webshots.com/photo/26640157/1068173140033554135SGofEq#

[ugay]

dual n1 sound quiet to me compare to the hi-power had both but i found the hi-power louder and annoying i have a sound clip of the dual n1 on my s14 runing on a stock ka so +1 on the dual n1.

http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/TheREal_Killa_D/?action=view&current=CIMG0994.flv

[trecooljr]

I would have to vote for the N1 dual, I have that system on my car and I love it. Sounds great, not too loud and has a nice rumble. And I llike the look better than one big can.

[undercoverdjay]

Yeah with my N1 when my KA was N/A it was LOUUUD, not a ricey bees in a coffee can loud, but, low, deep, droney, and almost like a streetbike at higher RPMs. It sounded great. After boosting my KA, the exhaust is so damn quiet (3inch DP, 3 inch Test pipe, N1's), like just sounds nice and low, enough for a good rumble, definitely doesnt attract the least bit of attention.

Quality, yea welds do suck. A hanger broke off, the welds are starting to leak aright at the canisters themselves. Exhaust has around, 10,000 miles on it.

580 shipped from enjuku in 2004 and it just seems like it fell apart. I'm still buying another one cause regardless of what it is, people still see a large can exhaust and figure it to be the stereotype 'fart can' the duals just look cleaner

[harlockssx]

The HKS doesn't hold up as well over a long term period (several years), the internal muffler baffles are notorious for breaking loose & causing a massive restriction with power loss...not a big deal if you feel like replacing the system, but typically it happens when the piping is still in good shape.

[joe gomez]

hks all the way ...

[Khashh]

i just ordered a hks for my s14... i heard from alot of buddies that the hks is alot better and last's longer, but when they come in ill let u guys know. my vote is for the hks =]

[kerosinek]

Does the single N1 sound somewhat similar to the dual? The reason I ask is because a local guy has one that I might be getting and I love the sound of the N1 dual.

[dreaMervaj]

+1 for HKS Hi-per. I have the 65MM version, wished I would have gotten the 80MM than. I've had mines for 3 years, and yes, it's HOLDING UP for all those who said HKS doesn't last. The one's who said it doesn't last probably lived in the northern part of the US, where the SNOW is, that's what happen, it wasn't the exhaust.

Again. +1 for HKS Hi-per.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

i'm sure it's too late now, but dual all the way.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/ale060.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/ale045.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/ale059.jpg

[Id RaThEr DrIfT]

personally i think tha dual looks sexy! haha but id take the hks over the dual just cause of cops and its hella sexy for having almost a 4-5" tip ... heres a video of my old car with a hks hi powered on a sr
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FM2SSOWiNSY

[bardabe]

This is my S13 SR with HKS Carbon Ti. http://youtube.com/watch?v=lUOkNy4rsVo driving video not reving. as you can tell teh HKS BOV is alot louder than the actual exhaust. its pretty quiet and sounds mean when u floor it.

[91rps13]

just installed my hi power 85mm on my fastback and it sounds great, looks great and gave me nice results at the drags...

[s14kouki44]

my co-workers both have s13's. one with apexi and the other has hks. the hks has a very deep rumbly tone close to a wrx w/ just a muffler. nice and deep, throaty. the apexi sounds more towards the honda end of the scale but is still nice and rumbly. i prefer the hks cuz it sounds less like a can of bee's

[DrftSLowHomIe!!]

HKS HI-POWER ALL THE WAY YO!! i have it on my 93 Sr coupe LOVE it sounds so clean nice and BEEFY haha plus i really dont get any looks from cops on the streets and best of all i was really impresed when im on the freeway sounds like i dont have an Exhust at all even with windows down. looks sweet ass heck 2 haha HKS +1:2f2f:

[sil80forme]

i have the hks hi power... and tryin to get rid of it... i dont like the tone. my previous s13's both had the n1 duals and i loved it.. wish i could find another

[luckyslide16]

Im running the HKS Hi-Power now and I love it. Like a couple of others have said, not crazy loud with a good deep note.

[S3t0S13]

id go with apexi, duals FTW

[xcusememisswyn]

duals suck... i have it, its the most amazing sounding exhaust, but the quality is crap, its overweight, and mild steel blows... one of the welds is broke, and there are another two on the way... its just all around crap...


sounds amazing tho, if your not beatin your car, and your roads arent bumpy, go for it.. i dont qualify for either

[Hoobuttacrew]

Will I be able to smog my car in california with either of these exhausts? or do they fail visual inspection? My car is stock other then the exhaust system im about to purchase. Any reccomendations?

-HBC

[fohahz]

Hi Powuh Ftw!

[ripnbst]

my vote is for HKS

[ImPLiCiTS14]

hks hi power have had the na version and turbo version on my car gets alot of compliments sounds deep.

[ripnbst]

Can you get the HKS Hi power 80mm for a n/a KA? Most sites I looked at have it listed as for the SR but does it really matter? Is the piping all bent the same?

[tammha]

I have a 92 hatch with the 80mm it fits just fine.

[EDacIouSX]

piping is the same. the only difference btwn sr and ka exhaust system is the downpipe/headers. catback is 100% exactly the sameizzle!

[TheS13kid]

NI DUAL son.
Got in in my NA 240. Sounds nice and like veryone else said, its not as loud as some people say.

And it looks hard!

[mrmephistopheles]

Lord this poll is old.
Oh well.

I've owned both, and I have to say I'd prefer the Hi-Power.

[sTalnOut]

HI-POWER baby had 1 on my s13 and my s14

[k's_silvia2.0]

Blitz for me please http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/ks_silvia/parts007.jpg

[swift_style]

I have to stay with the apex dual. Looks and sounds nice

[diomedes]

I like the hks hi-power more and i'm planning to get that soon after my swap.

[Rob's S14]

i've had the hks for almost a year now and no complaints. i can't speak for the n1, but the hks is definitely quiet unless you open it up which is perfect for me since i'm usually in oc and cops are always looking to pull me over anyways.

[scribbles6]

got hi power here and loving it. :bigok:

[FusionR240sx]

rsr gt2 or buddy club spec 2