Product Review: Drift Freaq's Engine Mouts

[slider2828]

Buy his engine mounts.... I had POS new Nismo engine mounts all around with Nismo tranny mounts. Had steering tremors, felt vibrations like crazy, just felt really stiff all around AND there is DEFINITELY a 1" height difference between the Nismo's and DF's Mounts... My greddy FSTB had heavy dents from my engine torque cause it wouldn't clear with spacers already on there!....

You can already see the difference in height that is about 1/2" difference
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Here you can see it installed on the turbo side...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/gaert/PICT0024.jpg

The stupid nismo ones had a little tabe to keep it from spinning which in my theory thinks the engine couldnt' sit flush with the mounts
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Driving impressions immediately are quieter more comfortable ride, less steering tremors all around, quieter on launch.... I am pretty sure the mounts will settle a little more over time, but these are unbelieveable!

Run down:

#1: Better than Nismo's in comfort meaning less vibration
#2: Easier install cause you can twist these any way you want to have it sit more flush tan nismos... 1 screw is in the middle of the mount which is up side and offset screw is down.
#3 The engine sits 1" lower than Nismo's
#4 WAAYYYY cheaper than Nismo's...

I am currently am using the nismo tranny mount with these engine mounts and its a good combo...

To install on SR:

Remove Clutch Fan.

Loosening Engine Mounts from the bottom. You can get to all 4 nuts from the bottom.

Remove Front Strut Tower Bar.

Put a piece of wood the size of your oil pan and lift the engine with a jack.

Screw in the middle of DF's mount go into engine side, and offset screw side goes to the frame side.

(MOST IMPORTANT) Use anti-seize on bolts.. These seize really easily with heat from engine.

Put in engine mounts and rotate mounts till they sit flush.

Bolt everything back in and go for a drive!

Good Stuff Drift Freaq!

My Car Specs: Motoria Arms all around, Megan Tracks, Solid Diff Mounts, Solid Subframe Mounts, SPL Inner and Outer Tie Rods....

370WHP at 330FT/LB of Torque.....

[Z33dori]

i like all of it except for the sitting lower part!..... but i do have a skid plate

[slider2828]

Lower means what is perceived stock.... By no means it sits lower than the lower stabilizer bar.... I think it sits normal actually.... The nismo sits very high.....

[!Zar!]

I remember people saying something about some nismo motor mounts for the CA18 being different heights than SR ones or whatever. But As for the height difference, is there a difference once it is installed? Because I'd imagine the Nismo/OEM ones would 'squish' more so than the Drift Freaq mounts and that the install height might be near the same.

[Mister.E]

are the Nismo's really that bad? i have never heard anything but positive feedback from people using them.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Nismo's are fine, for the first year or so. After that, they feel just like stock. Well, not old blown stock but stock new.

[Jakob]

i have these mounts, car feels great and no rattles at all (except the stuff that is actually loose and shouldn't be lol ). might pick up another set because my buddy wants them too!

[sirfallsalot243]

I'll be interested to see how they last. Make sure to update this when you get some miles on em.

[slider2828]

I have had about 15k miles on the nismo's they never squished at all, which I was hoping... Engine remained same height as when I first put them on. The mounts even look new after 15k miles on them no sagging.... But the engine was just too high... I think most people don't notice because they are still using a two piece shaft.....

I use a 1 piece steal and solid bushings / poly bushings everywhere with stiff coils. You can easily tell the difference in mounts.

100% sure they have a height difference.... nismo's don't squish at least not mine...

[secondtonone317]

damm, nice.......man I jumped to nismos after a bad experience with aolid mounts, if I get tired of nismos I will try these, I like that they take up less room

[drift freaq]

I'll be interested to see how they last. Make sure to update this when you get some miles on em.

They actually last quite well Racepar1 ran them on his car before he stripped it down to stitch weld for almost 2 years.

As with anything mileage may vary depending on how much you abuse your car. These were originally designed for track cars not street cars. They have seen lots of mileage on the track. If you do not put a heat shield on them then your exhaust and turbo could shorten the life of the mount due to excessive heat.

Before anyone asks well how come you don't make a heat shield? Two reasons,

1. They were cost ineffective to make given the price point people wanted to see the mounts sold for.

2. When we did make heat shields people were throwing them away.

Hence rather than wasting my money on something that is not cost effective and people will discard? I decided to sell them without with a Strong statement towards people using the factory heatshield or in sliders case using heat shielding material.

[secondtonone317]

how much are these? I hate that nismo mounts are so bulky but I like the comfort

[Om1kron]

probably should wrap them in the gold heat foil... also would be a good idea to maybe invest also in starter studs like the stock/nismo mounts so idiots don't strip or re-thread the studs in your mounts.

Just my 2 cents on improving your product. Make the foil optional. Not hard at all to apply.

[drift freaq]

how much are these? I hate that nismo mounts are so bulky but I like the comfort

they are $120 a set plus shipping. I am possibly going to be doing a new group buy if the interest picks up.

probably should wrap them in the gold heat foil... also would be a good idea to maybe invest also in starter studs like the stock/nismo mounts so idiots don't strip or re-thread the studs in your mounts.

Just my 2 cents on improving your product. Make the foil optional. Not hard at all to apply.


Thanks for the input Wayne,

Honestly though in all the time I have sold these I have never had a problem with people stripping the threads in the studs.

They come with brand new lock nuts or nuts with washers that thread on quite readily.

I would have to look into the foil idea but again its a question of cost vs return. If the cost is greater than the return it makes no sense.

Oh and that is pretty much why I have never done a trans mount. The amount it would cost to do a run vs the amount of people actually buying? Cost ineffective.

On top of that if I did a trans mount the price of the setup would rise significantly and in today's cost conscious 240 world? LOL

[slider2828]

probably should wrap them in the gold heat foil... also would be a good idea to maybe invest also in starter studs like the stock/nismo mounts so idiots don't strip or re-thread the studs in your mounts.

Just my 2 cents on improving your product. Make the foil optional. Not hard at all to apply.

I'll just use that protective silver material.... and wrap it around like I did on my ball joints... easy stuff, but its expensive. So I mean on the street, doubt there would be any problems, but track, I will use the wrap material....

The threads on the bolts are course threads, so I wouldn't worry too much about stripping, unless someone doesn't use hand tightening techniques first...

how much are these? I hate that nismo mounts are so bulky but I like the comfort

These are 100% times more comfortable than nismo's.... nismo suck... but I never been using solid mounts....

[MrChow]

I had them. There GREAT mounts for the price. But to be honest about a 1/2 year I had to replace them.... They tore apart some how. It was really sad for me.
I DD my car and track. I have a lot dips and bumps i go over but Idk if that did them or what.

Anyways my 2 cents.

[drift freaq]

I had them. There GREAT mounts for the price. But to be honest about a 1/2 year I had to replace them.... They tore apart some how. It was really sad for me.
I DD my car and track. I have a lot dips and bumps i go over but Idk if that did them or what.

Anyways my 2 cents.

There was a redesign in between when you bought your mounts and his. Also if there is a problem and its within a reasonable time from the purchase than I will warranty them.


This is not a blanket warranty. All things can be affected by excessive use.

Of course Racepar1's were the previous design and his lasted 2 years and are in another car as I speak.



Another thing to remember is the effect from turbo heat. Urethane will get affected by excessive heat.

[D.Adams]

i have been looking at these mounts for some time now. once my nismo's take a shit i will be buying a set of these not only because of the price but to help out a fellow zilvian. Also good write up to the op

[fcdrifter20]

i will also be buying a set of these as soon as i get my motor finished up. i have heard nothing but good things about these mounts.

[ZX88]

nismo ones are great with the sr20. no exploding oilpans.

[MrChow]

There was a redesign in between when you bought yours mounts and his. Also if there is a problem and its within a reasonable time from the purchase than I will warranty them.


This is not a blanket warranty. All things can be affected by excessive use.

Of course Racepar1's were the previous design and his lasted 2 years and are in another car as I speak.



Another thing to remember is the effect from turbo heat. Urethane will get affected by excessive heat.
Doubt it was a heat problem.. When the mount that wasn't near the exhaust was more damaged than the one that was.
But the new mount design is pretty cool. I've did a lot research about all the new stuff.

[slider2828]

nismo ones are great with the sr20. no exploding oilpans.

How is this even relevant when I had both, and DF's mounts aren't lower than the Stabilizer bar?

[SoSideways]

How is this even relevant when I had both, and DF's mounts aren't lower than the Stabilizer bar?

I don't know man, I have Nismo mounts, and have since the SR was dropped into the car back in 2003, and my oil pan is level with my front sway bar.

If these mounts lowered my motor by a half an inch like you said, my oil pan will be lower than my sway bar, thus SR explosion will occur.

[slider2828]

I'll take pics.... if I can get under it LOL.

[Allmtoreg]

how stiff are they really compared to other aftermarket mounts? Im running peak performance race trans mount and i was most likely looking towards cusco mounts or something like that mount design. but im interested now in trying these since alot of people seem to like them.

[SoSideways]

how stiff are they really compared to other aftermarket mounts? Im running peak performance race trans mount and i was most likely looking towards cusco mounts or something like that mount design. but im interested now in trying these since alot of people seem to like them.

I think you should support an OG of this community that is selling a good product that you are interested in.

Cusco has all the Subaru guys to back them now anyway.

[slider2828]

^^ Agreed! I love his mounts...

[Allmtoreg]

well you say theres not much vibration which is good. but do they hold the engine down as well as the nismos do (when they arent blown)

[slider2828]

HUH? Mounts don't really hold the engine down per se.... The engine rocks back and forth and there is a screw.... I think its fine..... I have 370 WHP... 320 FTLB of torque, and it works... I dunno about long term, but df stands behind his stuff if i breaks.... will let you know whn I track it.

[drift freaq]

HUH? Mounts don't really hold the engine down per se.... The engine rocks back and forth and there is a screw.... I think its fine..... I have 370 WHP... 320 FTLB of torque, and it works... I dunno about long term, but df stands behind his stuff if i breaks.... will let you know whn I track it.

Thanks and yes like I mentioned before there were some design mods done to them. They have seen a lot of track use as well.

[xpertsnowcarver]

Can't wait to see what they're like on the track. :)

I had Nismo mounts as well. I like them too, but since I have the hump on my valve cover, they made my engine sit too high for a strut bar.

My engine sits about 1/2" lower now.

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss56/xpertsnowcarver3/0502101133.jpg
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[GripTerror]

how do these compare to cuscos?

I have cusco engine mounts (they look like nismos but alot stiffer) and peak performance race tranny mount.

I seriously track my car but i do drive it on the road as well (for now)... On track its a pleasure to drive and in fact I wish it was even stiffer but the cuscos do vibrate like a [email protected]#*( f*(@#.... does get annoying... Are they softer than cuscos or stiffer than cuscos but somehow more absorbant/less vibrating? Curious... if that's even possible. Motor is a KA

[slider2828]

Seriously there are so many mounts out there.... You just have to try it, but by far I like them way better than nismo's and reduce a lot of engine vibration...

Hey carver: don't forget to heatshield wrap them to protect the mounts......

[drift freaq]

how do these compare to cuscos?

I have cusco engine mounts (they look like nismos but alot stiffer) and peak performance race tranny mount.

I seriously track my car but i do drive it on the road as well (for now)... On track its a pleasure to drive and in fact I wish it was even stiffer but the cuscos do vibrate like a [email protected]#*( f*(@#.... does get annoying... Are they softer than cuscos or stiffer than cuscos but somehow more absorbant/less vibrating? Curious... if that's even possible. Motor is a KA

Several years ago, I had a guy who drifts actually swap out a set of Cusco's for this very reason. He was pretty happy.


Oh and Xpertcarver, that heat shield is looking nice.

[xpertsnowcarver]

Hey carver: don't forget to heatshield wrap them to protect the mounts......

The small cover I made wouldn't be enough? Damn, alright.

Oh and Xpertcarver, that heat shield is looking nice.

:)

[slider2828]

Nah, that is more reflective and will reflect some heat, but heat wrapping is something that will reflect and absorb passing heat into the material, therefore no transfer.... Heatshield material like the really good stuff, is really really good.... But yours look nice though....

[fliprayzin240sx]

Heatshield is a definite must for these...Dave, remember those other mounts from that guy a while back? Had that shit in my car for about 8 months...needless to say, I melted them. I keep forgetting to take pictures of the outcome...

I'll never figured out how they got cooked tho. I have a top mount turbo and nothings close enough to cook the mounts. Then again, even the cold side of the engine, the mount was fubar'd too.

[drift freaq]

Heatshield is a definite must for these...Dave, remember those other mounts from that guy a while back? Had that shit in my car for about 8 months...needless to say, I melted them. I keep forgetting to take pictures of the outcome...

I'll never figured out how they got cooked tho. I have a top mount turbo and nothings close enough to cook the mounts. Then again, even the cold side of the engine, the mount was fubar'd too.

Ya that guy that was advertising on ebay and then came here. We had a whole discussion about the mount design. I never got a set of his mounts in my hands to check them out. They looked good though.
They melted on you? Wow.

Well I am glad to say I never saw a super melt problem with mine. Though like I have said on the exhaust/turbo side some kind of shielding is highly recommended.

High heat definitely affects Urethane, any kind of Urethane.

If I was to start offering heat shields again? The price would definitely rise and I am not sure the buying public in this current economy would like that. LOL

Hence my strong recommendation that a person either A: uses the factory one or B: figures out their own. At least along the like of xpertsnowcarvers idea.

[fcdrifter20]

Ya that guy that was advertising on ebay and then came here. We had a whole discussion about the mount design. I never got a set of his mounts in my hands to check them out. They looked good though.
They melted on you? Wow.

Well I am glad to say I never saw a super melt problem with mine. Though like I have said on the exhaust/turbo side some kind of shielding is highly recommended.

High heat definitely affects Urethane, any kind of Urethane.

If I was to start offering heat shields again? The price would definitely rise and I am not sure the buying public in this current economy would like that. LOL

Hence my strong recommendation that a person either A: uses the factory one or B: figures out their own. At least along the like of xpertsnowcarvers idea.


Dave im going to need a set of these soon. My Car should be running by ASB so i will hit you up then.

[slider2828]

Hey Expert, you need a shield to cover both sides.... Track temperatures can exceed 100* F easily even if ambients at 80*.... so shield both sides not just the top....

[xpertsnowcarver]

I didn't even think about that. Thank you.

[racepar1]

Hey Expert, you need a shield to cover both sides.... Track temperatures can exceed 100* F easily even if ambients at 80*.... so shield both sides not just the top....

On a turbo car the heatshields are VERY important, but on an N/A car it's not that much of a concern. I didn't even run any heatshield at all on mine on my KA, no problems for almost 2 years. Xpert's shield looks just fine to me.


Now, as for the nismo vs drift freaq vs cusco/etc... discussion. As far as comfort the driftfreaq mounts at least match and likely exceed the nismo mounts. As for the cusco's, get ready to replace some dental fillings. The nismo mounts for sure sit the engine at least 1/2" higher. With my KA and the drift freaq mounts my oil pan was dead even with the edge of the crossmember. With my nismo mounts it sat waaaaayyyyyy above the crossmember.

I also see a lot of people in this thread referring to the driftfreaq mounts as "solid mounts". These are in no way solid mounts. They are actual isolated molded urethane mounts. They aren't the typical urethane that's almost as hard as plastic either.

[SoSideways]

So where are those pictures of the oil pan height compared to the sway bar height?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Well, not melted melted but bubbled and started seperating...

Turbo side:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4584083398_80c4de5422_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4584080624_0ba3f226f9_b.jpg

Intake side: started splitting all around
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/4584082004_1bb66d2fd0_b.jpg

I had the stock heat shield on the turbo side and it still managed to do that.

[drift freaq]

Well, not melted melted but bubbled and started seperating...

Turbo side:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4584083398_80c4de5422_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4584080624_0ba3f226f9_b.jpg

Intake side: started splitting all around
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/4584082004_1bb66d2fd0_b.jpg

I had the stock heat shield on the turbo side and it still managed to do that.

Wow that is crazy Ray.

I have never seen any of my product bubble apart like that. I would think that that would be due to an inferior product from a chemical component basis.

In fact high durometer, high quality urethane will malform when its excessively heated, but will not bubble apart or disintegrate like you have pictured at current engine/bay temps.

Like I just mentioned it causes me to think that their product is not a clean high quality Urethane. Its possibly diluted with inferior components.

Heh it also makes me glad my product is Yellow and will always be Yellow and the bolts are offset. No mistaking it from inferior products. LOL

[Ceepo]

Aw, you say yellow and always be yellow, i was gonna see if you could make a set of red ones, oh oh oh do red and yellow zebra strips!!!!!!

[slider2828]

So where are those pictures of the oil pan height compared to the sway bar height?

I'll get some pics this weekend.... just been outta town... also I think the turbo heatshields point heat downwards... I personally run without any heat shields....

[DreamN]

Dave, just curious what the issue was with Mel's mounts. He had mentioned the passenger side had failed on him. Was it simply a poor batch?

I'm glad Joel (carver) picked up a set as I'd really like to see how they perform for him and get a detailed review on these.

Due to Mel's issue I've been on the fence.

[xpertsnowcarver]

Tried installing a DC Sports front Strut bar over the hump on the valve cover.... still doesn't fit. :\

Hoping to race Memorial Day weekend, but still working on the car. Not sure if I'll have it ready by then..

[slider2828]

Hey xpert, did you rotate the mounts till it was flush on both sides? It helped me engine settle a little better. but its looking good!

[racepar1]

Well, not melted melted but bubbled and started seperating...

Turbo side:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4584083398_80c4de5422_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4584080624_0ba3f226f9_b.jpg

Intake side: started splitting all around
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/4584082004_1bb66d2fd0_b.jpg

I had the stock heat shield on the turbo side and it still managed to do that.


Those are for almost positive not made of urethane at all. That looks like regular old plastic to me. Urethane doesn't melt and bubble like that, at least not at the kind of temps that those mounts see. I've never seen urethane crack like that, it just tears. What a ripoff...

[lou's40sx]

You get what you pay for. Nismo mounts are $150-180. OEM NIssan mounts are like $200. Which is weird, OEM costing more than Nismo but as I tell people, Nismo is just spray painted silver and slap a logo on OEM parts. $20 bucks = Pressure treated redwood with Dap 3.0 or Silicone 2 at homedepot would probably out perform all. =)

I think it could be designed/engineered better, but that would cost more money.
For under $100 these Urethane mounts are decent.


This design is a little better: An aluminum coupler enclosed housing.
http://www.nexternal.com/bimmerworl/images/bw%20trans%20mount,%20300.jpg

[drift freaq]

Dave, just curious what the issue was with Mel's mounts. He had mentioned the passenger side had failed on him. Was it simply a poor batch?

I'm glad Joel (carver) picked up a set as I'd really like to see how they perform for him and get a detailed review on these.

Due to Mel's issue I've been on the fence.

Jimmy Mels mounts were from the previous generation which had a problem that was corrected hence the redesign. besides the fact that I warrantied it because it happened almost immediately. Steps were taken to correct the issue and we have not had further problems. Also Mels issue was 1 in hundreds.

You get what you pay for. Nismo mounts are $150-180. OEM NIssan mounts are like $200. Which is weird, OEM costing more than Nismo but as I tell people, Nismo is just spray painted silver and slap a logo on OEM parts.

With these urethane mounts I am not too confident on using them on my car. Due to the fact that they do not have a metal perimeter to keep them from splitting. I think it could be designed/engineered better, but that would cost more money.

For under $100 these Urethane mounts are decent.

$20 bucks = Pressure treated redwood with Dap 3.0 or Silicone 2 at homedepot would probably out perform all. =)

This design is a little better: An aluminum coupler enclosed housing.


http://www.nexternal.com/bimmerworl/images/bw%20trans%20mount,%20300.jpg



Lou you do not know of what you speak of. The metal perimemter is indeed there embedded in the Urethane.

Plus your home depot product you talk of is infact inferior quality urethane.

Please refrain from commenting as I know you lack the technical knowledge of this product to be even opening your mouth.


Oh and to make aluminum enclosures for the mounts would drive the price up drastically. Again this is the world of 240's and you should know as well that people will not pay for it.

[racepar1]

You get what you pay for. Nismo mounts are $150-180. OEM NIssan mounts are like $200. Which is weird, OEM costing more than Nismo but as I tell people, Nismo is just spray painted silver and slap a logo on OEM parts.

With these urethane mounts I am not too confident on using them on my car. Due to the fact that they do not have a metal perimeter to keep them from splitting. I think it could be designed/engineered better, but that would cost more money.

For under $100 these Urethane mounts are decent.

$20 bucks = Pressure treated redwood with Dap 3.0 or Silicone 2 at homedepot would probably out perform all. =)

This design is a little better: An aluminum coupler enclosed housing.


http://www.nexternal.com/bimmerworl/images/bw%20trans%20mount,%20300.jpg

Just to start, those mounts that you posted are the same design as Dave's. Those pretty blue things are not bonded into the mount itself from the looks of it. I have seen urethane BMW mounts that are totally designed way better, but they're like $400 for a pair. Also if you are trying to use the price of those mounts to compare to the price of Dave's then you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Those are BMW trans mounts which are MUCH smaller then 240 engine mounts.

I am positive that you could build nothing at home depot that would compare to these mounts. You're just talking shit for the hell of it there and i know that for a FACT...

It's funny how you say that Dave's mounts would be great for under $100 when the price is only like $20 more than $100. What a cheap ass... They outperform nismo mounts and cost less and you wanna bitch about $20???

:duh:

[xpertsnowcarver]

Hey xpert, did you rotate the mounts till it was flush on both sides? It helped me engine settle a little better. but its looking good!

Yes I did. So, like springs, if I gave it some time, they will settle a little more?

[lou's40sx]

Nismo:
"You get what you pay for. Nismo mounts are $150-180. OEM NIssan mounts are like $200. Which is weird, OEM costing more than Nismo but as I tell people, Nismo is just spray painted silver and slap a logo on OEM parts.

$20 bucks = Pressure treated redwood with Dap 3.0 or Silicone 2 at homedepot would probably out perform all. =) (This is referrence to overpriced Nismo, which I really don't like their rebranded stuff, I am one of the last person to praise Nismo).
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These Drft Freaq custom mounts:
I think it could be designed/engineered better, but that would cost more money.For under $100 these Urethane mounts are decent. "

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My words didn't come out as I was thinking. Random babbling and the orders of things weren't in the correct order. Above is how it should have gone.

Like I know and said, these are decent for the money. Which isn't $300 for mounts that work. And my idea of aluminum coupler would add about $150 to the price. Again, many of these mounts have been used as well as the design in BMWs. BMW owners don't really buy cheap stuff, so these style of mounts has to be quite decent.

And you're dealing with Driftfreaq which is a plus, and he is a buddy of mine as well as racepar and they do some serious track techs.

[slider2828]

Yes I did. So, like springs, if I gave it some time, they will settle a little more?

i think so but i habe yet to see

[fliprayzin240sx]

Eh, they were free, guy sent them to me to make a review out of it. Only gripe I got now is that I took these off, tossed in my old URAS ones and my engine sat lower into the engine bay by a good inch or so and shifted the engine a bit. When it did that, caused my damn external wastegate dumptube to sit against the frame. Needless to say, after about a week or 2 of that happening, my HKS manifold is cracked and splitted at the collector. Now I need a new top mount manifold and wastegate...hooray for free engine mounts!!!

[racepar1]

Nismo:
"You get what you pay for. Nismo mounts are $150-180. OEM NIssan mounts are like $200. Which is weird, OEM costing more than Nismo but as I tell people, Nismo is just spray painted silver and slap a logo on OEM parts.

$20 bucks = Pressure treated redwood with Dap 3.0 or Silicone 2 at homedepot would probably out perform all. =) (This is referrence to overpriced Nismo, which I really don't like their rebranded stuff, I am one of the last person to praise Nismo).
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These Drft Freaq custom mounts:
I think it could be designed/engineered better, but that would cost more money.For under $100 these Urethane mounts are decent. "

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My words didn't come out as I was thinking. Random babbling and the orders of things weren't in the correct order. Above is how it should have gone.

Like I know and said, these are decent for the money. Which isn't $300 for mounts that work. And my idea of aluminum coupler would add about $150 to the price. Again, many of these mounts have been used as well as the design in BMWs. BMW owners don't really buy cheap stuff, so these style of mounts has to be quite decent.

And you're dealing with Driftfreaq which is a plus, and he is a buddy of mine as well as racepar and they do some serious track techs.

LOL! Don't lie man. You said it exactly as you thought it. That's why it came out harsher then you really wanted it to. We all know you're an asshole, hell I know as good as anyone cause I'm one too! LOL!

:bigok:

[xpertsnowcarver]

Dave... Make me a tranny mount too dude. Not sure how bad the exhaust heat would be on that, but I'd like a matching tranny mount.

[SoSideways]

Damn it, still no shots of how the oil pan sits compared to the sway bar and engine crossmembers?

I will take a pic next time I'm out working on the car to show where the Nismo mounts places my oil pan, just for comparison's sake.

[slider2828]

Kewl... Yeah sorry sosideways, I am replacing my rear subframe and all that good stuff.... So its lifted on the opposite end hahaha.

[GripTerror]

I just found this looks similar and is cheap on ebay:

http://i.ebayimg.com/16/%21BhJoLogB2k%7E$%28KGrHqIH-DgEsL%29chdEKBLH6DUDi0%21%7E%7E_12.JPG

Supposedly they are 'solid mounts'

240SX Solid Motor Mount S13 S14 S15 180SX SR20DET : eBay Motors (item 270576013337 end time Jun-07-10 08:02:54 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-Solid-Motor-Mount-S13-S14-S15-180SX-SR20DET-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3eff965019QQitemZ27057 6013337QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries)

60 bux

[racepar1]

I just found this looks similar and is cheap on ebay:

http://i.ebayimg.com/16/%21BhJoLogB2k%7E$%28KGrHqIH-DgEsL%29chdEKBLH6DUDi0%21%7E%7E_12.JPG

Supposedly they are 'solid mounts'

240SX Solid Motor Mount S13 S14 S15 180SX SR20DET : eBay Motors (item 270576013337 end time Jun-07-10 08:02:54 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-Solid-Motor-Mount-S13-S14-S15-180SX-SR20DET-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3eff965019QQitemZ27057 6013337QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries)

60 bux

Those are solid engine mounts, notice the bolt going throught the whole thing. The driftfreaq mounts are actual isolated engine mounts. Meaning the upper mounting surface is not connected to the lower mounting surface other then with the urethane. Those e-ghey pieces of shit aren't even comparable. I would rather just put a piece of aluminum with a bolt through it then those, I could make that for free...

[slider2828]

Those look like that shit flipin240sx had that broke apart LOL

[speedracer2169]

interesting I wonder how these compare to the Circuit Sports mounts I just put in (the drift freak mounts not the e ghey crap)

[MrChow]

I miss the urethane motor mounts... They soo much nicer then Nismo.... *sigh*
I wished u start to sell these again a year ago driftfreq...

[drift freaq]

I miss the urethane motor mounts... They soo much nicer then Nismo.... *sigh*
I wished u start to sell these again a year ago driftfreq...

LOL buy another set take your Nismo's out and and sell them. :D








Posting from the Windy City.

[MrChow]

LOL buy another set take your Nismo's out and and sell them. :D








Posting from the Windy City.
SHHHH you! I don't want to hear it from you!

ATM i'm currently trying to fix my car atm... First this then the mounts again. So how many do you have left?

[drift freaq]

SHHHH you! I don't want to hear it from you!

ATM i'm currently trying to fix my car atm... First this then the mounts again. So how many do you have left?

well, I am actually getting ready finally, to do another group buy.

[slider2828]

Alrigt guys here is the comparison, had a track day soo it really tested the engine mounts too!

This is straight on from the lip of my bumper, you can't really see my oil pan, so this is eye level or a little lss.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/gaert/PICT0027.jpg

This is a little lower than eye level of the computer to the back of my car, you can see the oil pan pop out. So no, the pan DOES NOT become lower than the sway OR the cross member with these Mounts!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/gaert/PICT0026.jpg

Thanks Again Drift Freaq

[KA240SX808]

^Nice, I've been waiting for someone to post about that after I read 1" lower then Nismo's. I'll be ordering a pair sometime soon, my mounts are so shot.

[GripTerror]

Alrigt guys here is the comparison, had a track day soo it really tested the engine mounts too!

This is straight on from the lip of my bumper, you can't really see my oil pan, so this is eye level or a little lss.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/gaert/PICT0027.jpg

This is a little lower than eye level of the computer to the back of my car, you can see the oil pan pop out. So no, the pan DOES NOT become lower than the sway OR the cross member with these Mounts!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/gaert/PICT0026.jpg

Thanks Again Drift Freaq
wait a minute... are you lifting the car by the oil pan??? or is it just my eyes... or is it by the front subframe?

Oh and how were the engine mounts? I am still curious even though I am considering avid racing cnc'd aluminum/polyurethane mounts lol... i need something stiffer actually hahaha...

I'm running cuscos... i wana know how these compare...

[Om1kron]

he's lifting from the front subframe.

[slider2828]

All I can say is, they are great.... I wrapped them on the track with some 2000 degree reflectant material that you use for protecting bmcs and stuff.... Great for the track and the street.....

[xpertsnowcarver]

Nice. I'm going to the track this weekend. :D

[slider2828]

Congrats!!! Have fun!

Me on Friday and taking out evos

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs534.snc3/30295_1305009547727_1305166658_30664910_1043376_n. jpg

[xpertsnowcarver]

Sweeeet! What track is that? That section looks incredibly fun.

[slider2828]

Sweeeet! What track is that? That section looks incredibly fun.

Thunderhill Raceway, NorCal.... Willows California....

[Ares240SX]

You have a picture of you coming down Turn 5 Slider2828? Last time I ran Thill it was in reverse almost 7 years ago... Fun track with lots of runoff if you make a mistake.

[unreal-]

I can't wait to order my set! :)

My mounts are shot! i can practically move the motor with one hand back and forth.

[xpertsnowcarver]

Thunderhill Raceway, NorCal.... Willows California....

Damn... going to be a long time before I can take my car that far.

[Number1]

Congrats!!! Have fun!

Me on Friday and taking out evos

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs534.snc3/30295_1305009547727_1305166658_30664910_1043376_n. jpg


track looks great wish ny had something like that :hitit:

[Def]

track looks great wish ny had something like that :hitit:

You kidding me? NY has Watkins Glen - a worldwide reknown racetrack. It hosted the US F1 grand prix for longer than any other US venue back in the day.

[RNGWLD]

well, I am actually getting ready finally, to do another group buy.

I was about to buy Nismo mounts when I saw this thread...

Are you still gonna do that group buy?

[GripTerror]

I just ran across these:

Circuit Sports EMK-0134-HC Engine Mount Set S13 S14 S15 KA24DE SR20DET (http://www.frsport.com/Circuit-Sports-EMK-0134-HC-Engine-Mount-Set-S13-S14-S15-KA24DE-SR20DET_p_16559.html)

They lower the motor slightly too... polyurethane... i wonder how they are anyone have experience with them?

[soreballz]

^seriously? They're "made" by Circuit Sports. That alone should scare you away.
Stop trying to cheap out on your mounts and buy something that's already proven to work well.

[racepar1]

I just ran across these:

Circuit Sports EMK-0134-HC Engine Mount Set S13 S14 S15 KA24DE SR20DET (http://www.frsport.com/Circuit-Sports-EMK-0134-HC-Engine-Mount-Set-S13-S14-S15-KA24DE-SR20DET_p_16559.html)

They lower the motor slightly too... polyurethane... i wonder how they are anyone have experience with them?

Dude, did you NOT notice the bolt going through the whole thing???

Those are the same shitty design as the e-ghey ones you posted above.

I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to do in this thread, but you should stop.

[hOngsterr]

well, I am actually getting ready finally, to do another group buy.

oh damn, when?

All I can say is, they are great.... I wrapped them on the track with some 2000 degree reflectant material that you use for protecting bmcs and stuff.... Great for the track and the street.....

where can you get it from and did you just wrap it around the mount or just made a shield how joel/xpertsnowcraver did?


to OP will you have heatshields for the newer ones coming out in GB?

[slider2828]

oh damn, when?



where can you get it from and did you just wrap it around the mount or just made a shield how joel/xpertsnowcraver did?


to OP will you have heatshields for the newer ones coming out in GB?

Well I just wrapped them around because the top is basically covered my the mounts from the engine. You can get the material from any hot rod store easily or order them from summitracing. Its because used to cover stuff and I use them for ball joints too! Its not cheap like 40 bucks for like a 4' x 1' piece.... but worth it.... COVER YOUR BALL JOINTS FOLKS......

[fliprayzin240sx]

Those look like that shit flipin240sx had that broke apart LOL

No, they were actually similar to what Drift Freaq made...isolated studs. The problem is that the mounts didnt hold up the temps I was putting the car thru.

Hypnotik got the same mounts I got and he had it for longer. His shit doesnt look anywhere close to how jacked up mine are. His shit still looked solid, no cracking or anything.

No clue how that shit got jacked up that badly, I reused the stock headshield on the exhaust side. But I have no explanation for the cooler intake side.

[slider2828]

No, they were actually similar to what Drift Freaq made...isolated studs. The problem is that the mounts didnt hold up the temps I was putting the car thru.

Hypnotik got the same mounts I got and he had it for longer. His shit doesnt look anywhere close to how jacked up mine are. His shit still looked solid, no cracking or anything.

No clue how that shit got jacked up that badly, I reused the stock headshield on the exhaust side. But I have no explanation for the cooler intake side.

O... my bad.... anyways, took it to a 85 degree day at a track.... Came out ok.... will take pictures later..... damn haven't seen you post in a little while flypin... are you still in Japan?

[drift freaq]

Ok guys got a little surprise for you. I actually was talking with my Urethane guy today and we might just make a trans mount!

Basically for it to happen? I would need 10 people committed i.e. paid for in a group buy to make them happen. I will have more info soon and if you want them and are willing, then speak up. Price would probably be $60 for the trans mount.

[drift freaq]

Oh and its official the group buy is up for the engine mounts, 10 person buy in for the price.

[fliprayzin240sx]

O... my bad.... anyways, took it to a 85 degree day at a track.... Came out ok.... will take pictures later..... damn haven't seen you post in a little while flypin... are you still in Japan?

Just havent been floating around in here...need a break from all the repetitiveness of all the noob shit that goes on in here. Only way itll keep my sanity.

Plus, just got back from emergency leave from Philippines. Had to go to a funeral and been internet-less for over 2 weeks.

[slider2828]

Just havent been floating around in here...need a break from all the repetitiveness of all the noob shit that goes on in here. Only way itll keep my sanity.

Plus, just got back from emergency leave from Philippines. Had to go to a funeral and been internet-less for over 2 weeks.

Hope everything got sorted out, I am heading to Japan to visit my girl in September... Tokyo though...

[fliprayzin240sx]

I got 10 more months, ill be off this rock. I'll find out Sept ish where I'm heading next. I'd love to get to mainland but the chance of that happening is slim to none...probably got a better chance of getting my ass to Germany. If that happens, I'm taking the Silvia with me and I'm gonna try to sell it there. Use the money for something else that I can bring back to the states with me.

[GripTerror]

i am just curious if they hold the engine the same or better than my cuscos... i love the solid feel of a solid engine mount.... rev matching, heel & toe, everything is so much easier period... i read that you mentioned one drift guy went to these from cuscos and liked them i guess they vibrated less... but i am wondering if the engine movement is more then? Not trying to sound like a douche, just trying to make a decision... Tracking my car is important obviously :) My cuscos seem to becoming looser... so... i am considering getting something else basically...

[drift freaq]

i am just curious if they hold the engine the same or better than my cuscos... i love the solid feel of a solid engine mount.... rev matching, heel & toe, everything is so much easier period... i read that you mentioned one drift guy went to these from cuscos and liked them i guess they vibrated less... but i am wondering if the engine movement is more then? Not trying to sound like a douche, just trying to make a decision... Tracking my car is important obviously :) My cuscos seem to becoming looser... so... i am considering getting something else basically...

Ok I am going to address though it has been addressed at least once in here and or in my for sale threads, before I opened the group buy.

Which can be found by doing a search I might add.

They are not solid mounts because they are urethane isolated. High durometer urethane. LIft tested to 3000lbs. I might add. The engine does not move much if it all with them. I have personally watched an engine sit rock solid with no movement with these mounts installed.

Cusco's are going to be a stiffer mount by shear design. They also cause enough vibration to make your dash rattle. Again I have seen this first hand in person.



In the end no these are not as stiff as Cusco. Nor do most people even want mounts like that. I have people that track their cars on a regular basis and love these mounts.

I might add if you think you are being a douche? Well you might need to look at that. Most people do not consider themselves douches unless they know they are being douches. LOL

Don't take that personal just pointing it out based on your own statements.

[unreal-]

Just bought mine, cant wait to put them on! My whole exhaust bitch slaps the bottom of my car when i start the car :(

[slider2828]

Hey Drift, maybe a good idea to put in there a warning sticker or letter to put heat wrap!

LOL Don't forget to heat wrap PLEASE!!!!

[KA240SX808]

^Would the stock heat shield suffice like someone mentioned earlier or in another thread?

[drift freaq]

^Would the stock heat shield suffice like someone mentioned earlier or in another thread?

I mentioned it. LOL

[KA240SX808]

I thought so but I couldn't find it again and didnt want to look like an ass :p

[xpertsnowcarver]

THESE ENGINE MOUNTS F*CKING ROCK DAVE!!!!!!!!!

Damn I'm glad I bought your mounts!

Footage of my event: YouTube - Auto Club Speedway - S13 Autech Spec-S (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGAX85cLAWI)

[unreal-]

^ badass. i LOVE vids like that. especially when there's a fast s chassis behind the camera.

When you switched to the mounts carver, did you feel that the motor was more responsive and shifting was easier? i never had anything but stock mushy mounts my whole life. Just trying to understand how these mounts feel.

*waits by mailbox*

[fishboi]

Hey slider, can show some pictures of the way you wrap the ball joints?

[slider2828]

Hey slider, can show some pictures of the way you wrap the ball joints?

Sure... I can do some maybe tomorrow night. Its already dark outside and I am still at FUCKING WORK and its been a 13 hour day.... SOB....

BUT DRIFT Freaq stuff ROCKS!!!

[xpertsnowcarver]

Pff.. At least your getting paid or have a job in the least.. I has no yab...

Yes. I want to say that I get better feedback as far as sensing good or bad vibrations, but without getting excessive vibration where you'd never know if something came loose. Not sure if that makes sense... Much similar to removing the hydraulic clutch unit, you can get a better feel for what the clutch is doing. Same for the engine mounts. I get a better feel for how the engine feels. And for someone like myself who knows their engine very closely, its a good sense to have, and these mounts help with that sense.

I have yet to make an opinion about their longevity seeing as though I've used them for one two-day race event. I'll chime in once I get five or ten more race events with them.

[unreal-]

Mine came in today, install is sometime next week. Stay tuned! dave FTW! and priority mail shipping in 2 days from CA to NJ FTMFW!!

and thanks for your feedback carver! :)

out the box pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/unreal-/S14/Motor%20Mounts/th_DSC02640.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v294/unreal-/S14/Motor%20Mounts/?action=view&current=DSC02640.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/unreal-/S14/Motor%20Mounts/th_DSC02639.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v294/unreal-/S14/Motor%20Mounts/?action=view&current=DSC02639.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/unreal-/S14/Motor%20Mounts/th_DSC02638.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v294/unreal-/S14/Motor%20Mounts/?action=view&current=DSC02638.jpg)

[unreal-]

Mounts and pan gasket are in. its good to have no leaks :D

Me and my friend ended up using an engine hoist for the heavy lifting. Makes it SO much easier. My engine had to realllllly get cranked up in the air to get it to clear the mounts. had to loosen the trans member completely as well. the bolts to the motor mounts came off pretty easily, no strippage at all (woo!). Then we tackled the oil pan. After that was done, everything was lowered/aligned, hood was put back on, fluids were poured, and car was started. i noticed right away a little more vibration, but not anything CRAZY. Enough vibration so that you can tell exactly what the motor is doing (now i know exactly what you are talking about, carver :)). At idle, you can barely tell i have aftermarket mounts. there is no change rattle, dash rattle, etc. Just a faint vibration. response is pretty damn quick, and the motor barely moves. Now these arent SOLID, so the motor will move a few MM, but a LOT less that the factory pieces. My factory ones were GONE!. You could practically squish them by hand :(.

Only thing i have to do is take a hammer to my header, where it meets the steering knuckle. It needs about 1-2mm of clearance. I think the mounts lower the engine a tad, so that killed my clearance in that area. Im sure a hammer and some epic cursing will get me the clearance i need. Ill probably warm the car up so that the metal will be a little more malleable.


impressions after day1:

- take off from a stoplight is much quicker. before, when i would leave a light the car would lurch and kinda "whiplash" then it would accel. Wasnt very smooth at all.
- There is almost no play when shifting. Before, when i would lift off to shift, the motor would cock back, making the shifter dip down ever so slightly, and i had to compensate for that depending on how high the RPM i shifted was. If i miscalculated, i got a nice grind. In fact, i had a semi-conscious foot release, in that i would time the release of the throttle, movement of the shifter and the rocking back of the motor...all to get a nice high-rpm shift.
- Downshifting in gear (no rev-matching) is much easier to do, with little delay, or whiplashing.
- vibrations: yup, its noticeable, especially when you are accelerating. You can feel the motor moving behind your foot. beyond the firewall/pedals its not that nociable. But no one gets poly mounts for stock comfort
- My motor sounds different. I dont know if its because its reverberating off of the mounts, but my motor sounds different from the inside of the car. as if the sound is slightly amplified by the mounts themselfs. its a pretty cool effect. Very race-car ish.

[RNGWLD]

Hey Drift, maybe a good idea to put in there a warning sticker or letter to put heat wrap!

LOL Don't forget to heat wrap PLEASE!!!!

Got my drift freaqengine mounts some weeks ago but shit happened and installation had to be postponed until I'm done with summer classes. Meanwhile, I was wondering which heat wrap to get for them

Design Engineering DEI 010462 - DEI Reflect-A-Cool Heat Shields - Overview - SummitRacing.com (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010462/)

or the more expensive gold bling bling one

Design Engineering DEI 010392 - DEI Reflect-A-GOLD Heat Barriers - Overview - SummitRacing.com (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010392/)

or, would this $10 one that stands up to 2000 F be good enough ? Car is na and dd, only gets drifted occasionly

Thermo-Tec 13500 - Thermo-Tec Adhesive Backed Heat Barriers - Overview - SummitRacing.com (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/THE-13500/)

Don't know much about heat wraps or if the mounts would require a certain type or whatever, so I'd appreciate some feedback from people who run them :D I want to get his asap so I can install them as soon as classes end...my engine tries to jump out of the bay everytime you rev it

[unreal-]

Just use the factory shield that's on the exhaust side (there is no shielding on the intake side). that should be enough for a N/A KA.

[slider2828]

Just get the cheaper one. the KA doesn't heat up as much as a booster sr....

[e1_griego]

Just put my mounts in along with a Peak Perf. street tranny mount.

They feel great! I used some reflective heat wrap to go around the outside of the mount. Install was very straightforward.

Highly recommend these!

[Def]

Did you jack up the engine on the oil pan? Or try to take off the engine bracket from the block?

[e1_griego]

I jacked up on the tranny/block connection and just loosened the tranny mount so it could pivot up.

Otherwise had to remove the fan shroud (just disconnect it) and the strut bar -- in addition to taking off all the intake piping to the turbo which sits in the way of the top nut on the motor mount.

[unreal-]

3 month update:

The mounts are much smoother than they were during first install. Coupled with my Nismo trans mount, vibration is almost non-existant. Besides the little bump when you first start the motor, once the idle settles you cant even tell that i have aftermarket mounts. Sometimes i wonder if my car is even on! :) SO, for poly mounts these fit the bill, and i highly recommend them.

[slider2828]

Yup 4-5 months, and still its nice after 3rd trackday its still in one piece...

[P-Funk alot]

i have some questions. ok for starts im not trying to bash.. my only thing is that these resemble the mckinney rb mounts in which i spent alot of money on and had nothing but problems with due to the stud and its platform tearing through the urethane on more then just one car so my question is what is the height and radius on the mount and what method was used to secure the studs.

[SoSideways]

i have some questions. ok for starts im not trying to bash.. my only thing is that these resemble the mckinney rb mounts in which i spent alot of money on and had nothing but problems with due to the stud and its platform tearing through the urethane on more then just one car so my question is what is the height and radius on the mount and what method was used to secure the studs.

You trying to make your own, and then turn around and selling these?

Not trying to bash either, just sounds like you're trying to rip his design off.

[P-Funk alot]

^^^^^^^no, not at all. the actual build up of these would be simple. the only reason i asked was because mckinney sales similar sets for there rb conversion mounts and every set ive used the actual studs tear out of the urethane. i have also fabricated countless custom solid mounts for ka/sr and rb so i would not have to steal someone elses ideas.

[drift freaq]

^^^^^^^no, not at all. the actual build up of these would be simple. the only reason i asked was because mckinney sales similar sets for there rb conversion mounts and every set ive used the actual studs tear out of the urethane. i have also fabricated countless custom solid mounts for ka/sr and rb so i would not have to steal someone elses ideas.

Ok first off I do not know what McKinney is using to build their mounts( as far as bonding agents and durometer, and anchor plates for the stud.
In fact all of those things can adversely affect durability. I.E. to low of a durometer will shear a lot easier. Improperly applied bonding agents and how you anchor your studs will affect this as well.

I do not know about Mckinney.
Though I do know some competitors run a stud straight through the mount. This is not an advisable thing to do. It will cause severe vibrational transfer. Which will manifest itself in the cabin of your car. I.E. dash rattling,seat vibrating,mirrors shaking. LOL

I will admit that it does seem like you were probing for proprietary information. If not excuse me. Though I am in the business of selling these mounts and that is not the kind of information that I would readily disclose. LOL

In fact I have already described how we make these mounts to certain extent already in the lead post in the group buy.

Now with that said we actually have a New Year and a New Generation of mount.

After feedback from track users we have actually upped the durometer on the mounts from 70 to 80. That does indeed give them more shear strength.

With that said lots of people have used the 70 durometer ones on the track and not had any shear issues. We just felt if we could improve without driving up costs we would.

So Now the Mounts are GREEN!! Yup British Racing Green and 80 durometer. Same price but a even better product.

[soreballz]

So Dave, what was the deal with the mounts you sold that tore apart?

[drift freaq]

So Dave, what was the deal with the mounts you sold that tore apart?

I did not have a big problem with mounts that tore apart. If people do not use a heatshield on the turbo side the will deform due to the extreme heat from the turbo. In fact that is well known about Polyurethane.
I have heard of people discarding the heat shield we used to sell with them. It was a cost prohibitive thing to manufacture especially if people were tossing them.
To keep costs down I stopped doing the heat shield but stress it to everyone I sell to. In other words yes you need to use a heatshield be it the factory one or one of your own design.

If you do not it could cause a heat failure. If someone resells my mounts to someone else and does not mention this that could be a problem.

Oh and if someone uses a impact gun or air ratchet to tighten down the bolts it can over torque the studs.
They are lock lugs and just need to be tighten downed with a ordinary socket and ratchet.

There was one batch that the bonding agent was not applied properly. It was actually prior to the last generation as well. Failure happened immediately and those were warrantied.


There are many people using my mounts now and for several years with no problems. In fact Racepar1 purchased a set over 3 years ago, tracked them several times and they are actually still in use in Raiglide's car as I speak still performing.

I do stand behind the product.

Did you actually even read the last 5 pages of the review Kyle? There is pretty strong testimonials going on here.
Oh and buy a set you will like them. Do you even own a S chassis anymore?

[chiboy002]

so they are green now? Where cans i buy some lol, im doing like new everything for 2011

[soreballz]

I do stand behind the product.

Did you actually even read the last 5 pages of the review Kyle? There is pretty strong testimonials going on here.
Oh and buy a set you will like them. Do you even own a S chassis anymore?
I don't doubt that you stand behind your product at all.

Yes, I read the thread and all the praise, which is why I was puzzled when I saw pics of the mount that had pulled apart.

I do still have my 240, and it does need new mounts. I'm still pondering whether I should go with your mounts, or try out the JGS rubber mounts.

[slider2828]

I would highly suggest you try it.... I am still loving it still......

[s14j]

getting some this week hopefully :D
im tired of my stock busted mounts.

[coup-emonster]

i want!!! haha..specially now that they are green haha way better than yellow in my opinion:)

[slider2828]

Buy it! LOL.... Please write back to this thread on your experiences.... It really helps people out there.....

[s14j]

JUST picked up mines today!
GREEN ones FTW!
ahah
there fing mounts who cares what color they are -_-
but anyways
as soon as my cars ready
ill post my experiences with them!
already they seem really legit shit cant wait!

[drift freaq]

I don't doubt that you stand behind your product at all.

Yes, I read the thread and all the praise, which is why I was puzzled when I saw pics of the mount that had pulled apart.

I do still have my 240, and it does need new mounts. I'm still pondering whether I should go with your mounts, or try out the JGS rubber mounts.

Well that was an exception not the norm plus check out the new group buy it has started!

Oh and a pic of the Green in the blazing with flash i.e. it made them look even lighter green. LOL

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww52/driftfreaq/IMG_0859.jpg

[mattsil80wis]

bought these a few months back.....totally love them...makes it super easy to take the trans out too with these installed

recommend them to everyone i know looking for new mounts

[NismoDriverS13]

i got mine on wednesday last week. took an hour at most to install them with just a jack. lol. great quality and most def increases the feel of the engine and gear changes. im happy with them..... :)

[slider2828]

Well that was an exception not the norm plus check out the new group buy it has started!

Oh and a pic of the Green in the blazing with flash i.e. it made them look even lighter green. LOL

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww52/driftfreaq/IMG_0859.jpg

That is nice!!!

Hey DF, can you make an engine torque dampner? Maybe you have a source for the parts. I added one to my car... GOD it made a huge difference.... I mean HUGE difference in shifting consistency and feel....

[chiprez]

group buy?im in!

[codyace]

I like that you changed the color of these :D No offense, but that yellow was a bit 'much' for me.

[CrimsonRockett]

I like that you changed the color of these :D No offense, but that yellow was a bit 'much' for me.

Agreed. Haha

They would pretty much be the only yellow part on my car. Haha.

I'll definitely be getting a green set.

[drift freaq]

Agreed. Haha

They would pretty much be the only yellow part on my car. Haha.

I'll definitely be getting a green set.


cool Johnny, ya give me a shout we will get you squared.

Oh and now for everyone. We have talked about the trans mounts and here is the deal.

The trans mount is more complicated but we are trying to make the best trans mount out on the market. In other words it will come with studs for the exhaust hanger. No other aftermarket trans mount has this.

Now this will not be a cheap mount it is going to run around $80 per mount. It will be the newer green and 80 durometer.
If ten people are serious about committing to this and are willing to wait 3-4 weeks for the initial run then we can do it.

It will not happen without ten commits though. You won't be sorry I can tell you that much. lol

Oh and there is a possibility of the return of heat shields with the mounts, though that will raise the price of the mounts another $10

Speak up and give me feedback on that. Thanks again guys.

[e1_griego]

Just have people cut up the stock mount.

Once you cut out the inner rubber piece you can use the other metal U that has the studs out of it.

Super simple and makes for easier manufacturing.

[drift freaq]

Just have people cut up the stock mount.

Once you cut out the inner rubber piece you can use the other metal U that has the studs out of it.

Super simple and makes for easier manufacturing.

While I appreciate your input. Did you stop to think, most people don't want to go to that extent? Or the fact that, if I did it for them, it would be even more work, than just designing, making and selling the new concept I have already figured out?

Either way you look at it, time is money and what you propose is time consuming.
On top of that the stock mount is bulky in comparison, to anything aftermarket.

[e1_griego]

lol, 3 sec with a sawzall is not 'real' work, but I understand what you're saying.

n/m then.

[chiprez]

how many of you guys had to trim the stud on the mounts to be able to fit?and if so,how much?cause my studs were really long and i trimmed some off at work and the stud is still to long to fit

[slider2828]

Mine were fine, I mean its just easier to trim the stud than the lift your engine higher? I dunno it was easy though.

[94_240sx]

Because of the nismo mounts I couldn't install Nissan OEM strut bar which I sourced from Japan. I had to go with rotorimp brace/bar.

[PoorMans180SX]

I'll be picking up a set of these soon to replace the solid ones I have now.

Legit products ftw.

[drift freaq]

Because of the nismo mounts I couldn't install Nissan OEM strut bar which I sourced from Japan. I had to go with rotorimp brace/bar.

add yourself to the list if you have not purchased yet. We are just finishing up the second group of 5 in round 2 of the group buy.

[exile28]

love the mounts so far. had em on for a few weeks now and its settling pretty good.

[c_mancuyas8]

Mine are on the way!!! Thanks Dave!

[racepar1]

These are still the best mounts available hands down! As far as reliability goes, I have been working with Dave for a few years now and in that entire time I have only seen one or two mounts have issues. That's with both the old yellow and the new green, QC and warranty are not a problem. BUY THEM, they ROCK!

[unreal-]

These are still the best mounts available hands down!........BUY THEM, they ROCK!

Agreed wholeheartedly. Mine have been in since June '10 and are still working perfectly :) i have the V1 Yellows. I like how the motor still has a slight amount of movement...so it doesnt translate to the body of the car as much. Combined with Nismo trans mounts or Peak Perf. Street trans mounts, these would feel very similar to stock, but slightly stiffer. With a Peak Race trans mount vibrations are pretty noticeable when cold started but soon dissapear when warm (90% of this is from the trans mount fyi) . and you definitely notice when the car revs throughout the range with the race combo. I dont even have to look at my tach anymore lol.

[ultramagnus]

I just got mines yesterday yellow ones, drove up from OC to meet up w/ him ,very cool guy and honest, i over paid him a $20 and i was about to hop in my car and bail out when he called me back. i'm gonna install them on my DD s13 coupe, probably this week. I will let you all know how this goes. Thanks again DF. :bigok:

[future]

Where can I buy these?

[drift freaq]

Where can I buy these?

Ah that would be me. :D I just p.m.d you.

[Driftingcorners]

What heat shield are you SR20DET guys using...

[c_mancuyas8]

just got mine in! He even sent them with the news paper funnies! Great product with a smile! :mephfawk:

[slider2828]

What heat shield are you SR20DET guys using...

Just thermal wrap with the silver reflector and then wrap with safety wiring.... Kinda pricey wrap but keeps them nice.

[drift freaq]

Hey guys just thought I would let all of you know. I am now a Zilvia.net advertiser. Which means, though I still might do group buys I am officially on board with constant sales. I have product and its is available. :D

[revcyanide]

what's going on with the transmount? interested!

[drift freaq]

what's going on with the transmount? interested!

well lets try this again if 5 of you can actually list up and pay for the trans mount I will make it. But I am going to need at least 5 solid paid commitments to do it.

[slider2828]

well lets try this again if 5 of you can actually list up and pay for the trans mount I will make it. But I am going to need at least 5 solid paid commitments to do it.

Sign me up for one. What might be the price point for it?

[drift freaq]

Sign me up for one. What might be the price point for it?

$85. I know it sounds high but if I am going to do it it will have the exhaust hanger bracket.

[slider2828]

$85. I know it sounds high but if I am going to do it it will have the exhaust hanger bracket.

Oh nice.... do you think you can have one designed, fitted, and tested so we can see it actually on a car? That would be nice.

[drift freaq]

Oh nice.... do you think you can have one designed, fitted, and tested so we can see it actually on a car? That would be nice.

To make one I would have to do a run. I cannot make single one offs. I can only mock the jig. Trust me I have put a lot of thought into the design of it and not only would it come correct but fitment would be spot on.

[slider2828]

To make one I would have to do a run. I cannot make single one offs. I can only mock the jig. Trust me I have put a lot of thought into the design of it and not only would it come correct but fitment would be spot on.

You said you need 5? Sign me up for one.... so let me know when you need the money. I guess it has to be pretty head resistant because track temps and exhaust is pretty close.... Is there any special need to address it?

[s13Kurt]

Sorry wrong thread.

[gunmetalr32]

Just ordered 2 sets

[Jybfan04]

PM sent regarding engine and trans mount combo!

[nismoracingsx]

great engine mounts. took almost all movement out of the equation.
combined it with a circuit sports trans. mount for a good combo.

[hOngsterr]

hey dave thanks for the mounts, but can you chime in on how to achieve different heights of the motor by the postion of the studs

[gunmetalr32]

great engine mounts. took almost all movement out of the equation.
combined it with a circuit sports trans. mount for a good combo.

I haven't got my mounts in yet.. But I will be running the peak performance sold trans mount.. Should be a good combo too

[drift freaq]

hey dave thanks for the mounts, but can you chime in on how to achieve different heights of the motor by the postion of the studs

there are a couple of ways to do this. one is to run one centered stud and one down. then rotate the mounts. the lowest position achieved by put both centered studs up rotating the mounts till the offset stud is positioned at the top of the rotation.( Racepar1 actually favors that position in his car, for example)
Positioned at the bottom it will raise your engine and yes you can do this with one

[hOngsterr]

there are a couple of ways to do this. one is to run one centered stud and one down. then rotate the mounts. the lowest position achieved by put both centered studs up rotating the mounts till the offset stud is positioned at the top of the rotation.( Racepar1 actually favors that position in his car, for example)
Positioned at the bottom it will raise your engine and yes you can do this with one

so basically having the center studs up and rotating that achieves the raised motor? Just clarifying.



hey slider can you post pics of how you wrapped your mounts, even though its obvious how you explained it. people love pics lol

[slider2828]

There you go. Its just wrapped with safety wire.... you could probably use some really good zip tie too, but its going to get hot, so zip ties will get brittle over time.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/gaert/2011-11-12170427.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/gaert/2011-11-12170446.jpg

[drift freaq]

very cool pics slider. Thanks for dropping that.

[terrorist240]

Recently got the yellows installed. Love how you hear and feel the vibrations "better" I guess you can say. Feels like my KA is a super track car now LOL! I combo'd it with Peak Performance PRO tranny mount (it was the same price as the street one on sale so I said fuck it). Great combo, great product!

[ghetto180]

how much for the green ones w/transmission mount, i will take a set paypal ready, will need shipping to 28301 thanks

[drift freaq]

how much for the green ones w/transmission mount, i will take a set paypal ready, will need shipping to 28301 thanks

Greens sell for $120 a set with a $15 shipping fee. I have not made a trans mount yet. I will be officially setting up a thread to round up the 5 or so people that have spoken up. When that happens and they commit I will start a trans mount run. For now there are no trans mounts from me.

[carnal_c30]

I put mine in a few weeks ago in an otherwise stock S14 (gf's 240).

a tiny bit more vibration at idle, but the solid feeling is completely worth it
My gf loves them!

[dangle33]

i need a set shipped to 83709, pm me please!:naughtyd:

[slider2828]

Send him a PM

[Pinggg]

Gonna be getting a set soon, i'm liking all the good reviews i see!

[anfitch2k5]

i had a set of these and the metal "disk" thing ripped right out of the silicone or whatever that is, but i had one of the first sets so maybe they've redesigned them. who knows. just my $.02

[drift freaq]

i had a set of these and the metal "disk" thing ripped right out of the silicone or whatever that is, but i had one of the first sets so maybe they've redesigned them. who knows. just my $.02

Really? First off they are not Silicone. They are Polyurethane. Also did you have them on the exhaust side without a heat shield. Also how soon did this happen?

I basically warranty my product against this type of failure because if its going to happen it will happen almost immediately . There was a problem with the sealant on a few batches which we did correct. Plus in fact we are now on our third version of the mount and they are Green now not Yellow. I have a lot of satisfied customers because of this.


which leads me too...why did you wait till now to speak up about this?



I do not recognize your SN and honestly I remember most of the people I sell to especially the ones in California. Did you actually buy these from me or pick them up second hand from someone?

[azienbabyboi]

nice i finally found out where my motor mounts came from. had this for years probably since late 2008. it came with the s14 ka i got, i must say it works really well and its starting to show wear now but still nice and stiff. good stuff. i remeber people asking what kind of motor mounts are they? there kinda funny, and all i can say idk all i know is that they are poly and pretty good.

[cjmirabal1]

how much is shipping to 32839...i need mounts for my ca18. also what trans mount would you recommend with these mounts?

[slider2828]

PM DriftFreaq... I think that is faster

[BRAIN_Z33]

Bought my mounts a few weeks ago, finally got around to installing em yesterday and I must say, this is probably one of my fave mods on the car! The feeling of the car and motor being one is awesome. W.o.t. shifts feel 10x better. Vibration is minimal. I was afraid it was gonna be terrible. Hardly noticible. Great product. Wish Tranny mounts were already in production, waiting on Nismo Tranny mount to come in. Can't wait to see how that combo will feel.

[drift freaq]

Ok folks here it is. The Transmission mount! These are pics of the prototype. The production run has started and the first 10 sets will be ready next week. Mind 8 of them have been sold already. Due to the cost of producing this super trans mount the introductory price has gone up to $110 each. This will be good for the next month. After that they will go to a regular price of $130. Or $240 if you buy engine mounts and trans mount combined. I.E. you save $10.



this is the prototype one and the exhaust studs were not in in these pics.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww52/driftfreaq/240sxmnt2.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww52/driftfreaq/240sxmnt.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww52/driftfreaq/IMG_0152.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww52/driftfreaq/IMG_0155-1.jpg

[Dori240]

Damn!!!! that looks good!

[huffandpuff00]

looks solid man!

[dtfdanyo]

sweet man. love how it allows you to retain the exhaust hanger :)

[Seraphim38]

Finally! I will have to get one, though I have to get some other ducks lined up first.

[Jay97240Sx]

Sweet !!! Looks great. Can't wait to get mine.

[slider2828]

@Drift Freaq.... saw this the day it came out, but car is down for the rest of the year... Getting married..... sooo... hopefully end of the year I got something in the works.

[drift freaq]

@Drift Freaq.... saw this the day it came out, but car is down for the rest of the year... Getting married..... sooo... hopefully end of the year I got something in the works.


No worries congrats on the marriage. That is a little more important than a trans mount. LOL

[Nicelyphe]

Like the looks of the trans mount, How well is it with contact of heat? How stiff is the mount compared to stock?

[Pinggg]

Recieved mine today! Can't wait to see how they feel. Also heat wrap them on both intake/exhaust side but only a little on the intake side and a lot on the exhaust side.
Thanks dude!
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm72/pingisasian/Nissan%20240sx/39bf1128.jpg

[killer240]

make some S14 diff bushings!!

nismo ones breaks my neck, the pice is way up there

[thizzen4]

i got a pair of the yellow ones and lovethem
thanks drift freaq

[killer240]

just got mine, cant wait to install it!
fast shipping

[dc1984]

same here, i dont think im gonna have a chance to install them for atleast another month though:(

[Jlrios18]

Ok so we know that they have less vibration and quieter sound, but how responsive are they? More than nismo mounts?

[ultramagnus]

Finally installed mines (yellow) after ummm 5 months..lol they are freaking awesome the vibration is not so bad at idle it's what you would expect from stiff bushings. gotta wrap mines though totally forgot about it but it's only been a week or so. it was a simple install took longer to get the stock mounts out than installing these and way easier to align.

[Darkstream sx]

Will i still need to wrap them even tho im going to be running them on a KA i imagine i would but just checking?

[slider2828]

I would just wrap them... Increase longevity of the mounts...

Definitely more responsive than nismo ones.... Lower center of gravity also reduces engine torque on the chassis as well.....

[Tkwjh07]

are there anymore forsale?

[slider2828]

I am sure there are, just PM DriftFreaq...

[KendallH]

Just got mine in the mail today :)

Will be 2-3 weeks before they're in my new shell, will post installed impressions then!

[izzyidk?]

can i get a price for 4 sets shipped to 94521

[slider2828]

can i get a price for 4 sets shipped to 94521

Not a for sale thread, so PM drift freaq....

[Almasxxx]

Dude where do you buy this one

[D.Adams]

can i get a price for 4 sets shipped to 94521

Dude where do you buy this one


You need to pm this guy and i think he is on version 3 of these mounts.

http://zilvia.net/f/members/drift-freaq.html

[KendallH]

Just got mine in the mail today :)

Will be 2-3 weeks before they're in my new shell, will post installed impressions then!

Got the new car finished last night and got to drive it around with the DF motor mounts and a peak performance street tranny mount. All I can say is.... WOW, WHAT A DIFFERENCE! My motor hardly moves at all, and theres little to no vibration. What vibration there is is hardly noticeable and actually feels nice. Props to drift freaq for an awesome product, this is a must have for any s-chassis!

[unreal-]

So when i was going KA-T a few weeks back, i went to take off my drift freaq mounts that ive had on the car for almost 2 years, and both of them died. Looks like the bolt/washer assembly separated from the poly. This was a older style yellow mount. Seems like the weight of the engine kept the mounts in one piece. Not sure what caused this, but ive since replaced it with hockey puck mounts (90A).

Regardless, i loved the mounts when i had them and wouldnt hesitate to suggest them to others. Just be careful when installing them!

[iVanRoz]

Just ordered a set today can't wait to get them.

[2muchboost]

Just to be sure.....are you guys wrapping the mounts in a heat shield material? Took the mounts and motor back out for one last final touch then hopefully dropping the setup back in for good.

[Rp s13]

Just ordered a set today, can't wait!

[DJ-of-E]

So when i was going KA-T a few weeks back, i went to take off my drift freaq mounts that ive had on the car for almost 2 years, and both of them died. Looks like the bolt/washer assembly separated from the poly. This was a older style yellow mount. Seems like the weight of the engine kept the mounts in one piece. Not sure what caused this, but ive since replaced it with hockey puck mounts (90A).

Did you have a heatshield covering the engine mounts during that time?

[nismoracingsx]

you can even reuse the stock heatshield if you're lazy :p
thats what I did and it worked fine.

[ghoti]

Got the tranny mount and it fits just like OEM. I like the fact that it has the studs for the exhaust. No more wobbly exhaust shaking.
I still haven't test driven it to see how if feels yet though

[Rp s13]

Have received and installed them, love the mounts!

[M240Z]

I'm running solid mounts on my sr20det s13. I daily the car and Im tired of all the vibration. Would these mounts get rid of that? Sounds like they're still pretty stiff?

[iVanRoz]

These are great almost no vibration at idle or anything like that. One thing though and I'm not sure if its my fault or what but I've noticed that once I hit certain rpms like 3.5k at 5 gear maybe going like 75 mph the engine sounds like its bouncing around? I haven't gone under the car again to re check them since I'm too lazy but maybe you guys can chime in on this.

[Driftwire]

These still for sale / available?

[tbyrd757]

Hey i noticed on your page the only way to get ahold of you was through aol instant messenger. I look on the site alot but i made an account just to order the mounts. I sent you a message on aol. If your still selling them and could get back to me it would be much appreciated. Thanks

[bovaddict]

Has anyone ran these with an rb using Zerolift mounts?

[zerodameaon]

Hey i noticed on your page the only way to get ahold of you was through aol instant messenger. I look on the site alot but i made an account just to order the mounts. I sent you a message on aol. If your still selling them and could get back to me it would be much appreciated. Thanks

Go to the forsale section, he has the sets he has made for sale on there and that will be the fastest way to get ahold of him.

[s14newb]

Just ordered another set for my other car. These are so much better than the solid mounts that are on it.

[jan.ortega]

Greetings,

Please let me know about the engine mounts for a S14 KA24DE..
Puerto Rico 00985

Thanks

[rebornS14]

so how much are the sets now with the new trans mounts?

[st4ci20]

I want to buyyyy! :fruit:

[SeizureNoodles]

The engine mounts didn't fit my RB with R32 crossmember, but that wasn't advertised, just me not quadruple checking that they would fit. The Trans mount is amazing though, I test drove my car today and was able to shift easily without a shift nob. Try it sometime with your current mounts and I can almost guarantee it will be a bitch.