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DSC

03-04-2002, 07:58 PM

4cyl-s14
v6-z32tt
I6-m3
v8-i'll take the lotus tt as well, although they look kindof 80'sish, maybe cauz they are...still fast tho
v10-viper
v12-no clue, I think austin martin has a pretty cool v12, don't know of any others. Farari? any of those have v12's?

Edit: i'm a morron

White240sx

03-04-2002, 08:05 PM

4cyl-AE86
V6-Jaguar XJ220
I6-M3/GT-R
V8-Ferrari 360 Modena
V10-Viper
V12-550 Maranello, Lamborghini Murcielago

bing

03-04-2002, 08:42 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DSC on 7:58 pm on Mar. 4, 2002
4cyl-s14
v6-z32tt
v8-m3
v10-viper
v12-no clue, I think austin martin has a pretty cool v12, don't know of any others. Farari? any of those have v12's?
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M3 is an I6, they toggled with the idea of a v8 but decided against it.

4cycl - s2000
6 - M3
8 - modena, M5
10 - vipers are gay
12 - maranello.......... yes

zephyr

03-04-2002, 08:50 PM

v8 i'd have to say a lotus esprit v8
4 cylinder-180sx type x w/ sr20det
I6-M3
v6- z32tt
v10- viper (for shits and giggles [and getting laid]{what else is v10?})
v12- DIABLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

flat 6? porsche 911 T or GT2

onebadm5

03-04-2002, 08:55 PM

4 cyl - E30 M3
6 cyl - E46 M3
8 cyl - E39 M5
10 cyl (i know its not stock) - williams FW24, or the upcoming E63 M6
12 cyl - Mclaren F1

(Edited by onebadm5 at 7:58 pm on Mar. 4, 2002)

wherezmytofu

03-04-2002, 08:59 PM

4 cyl - sr20vet
6 cyl - z33
8 cyl - q45 (vk45de)
10 cyl- viper
12 cyl - Mclaren F1

(Edited by wherezmytofu at 9:46 pm on Mar. 4, 2002)

s15dude

03-04-2002, 09:03 PM

4cyl: S15 silvia
6cyl: E46 M3
8cyl: 360 modena
10cyl: nothing
12cyl: Mclaren F1

LanceS13

03-04-2002, 09:08 PM

I-4: S13 Fastback of course <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>...or maybe an ITR or S2000.
Flat 4: WRX
I-6: the new M3/Skyline GT-R/280ZX Turbo....hhmmm, that's a tough one.
V6: 350Z/300ZX
Flat 6: 911 turbo
V8: C5 Corvette Z06
V10: Viper GT-S
V12: McLaren F1
Wankel/Rotary: what else? 3rd. gen RX-7

(Edited by LanceS13 at 10:11 pm on Mar. 4, 2002)

Fuzzy Ewok

03-04-2002, 09:08 PM

4cyl: S2000 or an S15
6cyl: GT-R (though I'd want a 300z too)
8cyl: M3 (or maybe Cobra R...sorry, but those things are just beautiful looking)
10cyl: Viper?  Dunno what else is 10cyl
12cyl: 550 Maranello *drools*  That would be...I don't know what I'd do with myself if I had one.  All my dreams would have come true then.

Jeff240sx

03-04-2002, 11:17 PM

4-cyl s15 silvia
6-cyl Last generation Supra TT
8-cyl "Stock" Lotus Esprit V8 Twin Turbo
        "Not Stock"  Ligenfelter Corvette (drools on chest)
10-cyl  That new 1/2 ton pickup with a Viper engine Dodge is comming out with.
12-cyl  Hmm... Lotec c1000
-Jeff

mike240

03-05-2002, 01:19 AM

I4 lotus esprit turbo (2.2)
O4 WRX
I6 M3
V6 NSX or Jag XJ220
O6 911 GT2
V8 Ferrari F40
V10 Hennessy Viper
V12 very tough (Diablo VT roadster, McLaren F1, Zonda    C12,  Aston Martin Vanquish)
O12 Ferrari Testarossa (yes they had flat 12s in them)

DrDubbleB

03-05-2002, 01:27 AM

*sigh* I would respond to this, but it'd be pretty much the same as everyone elses response...oh wait....did i just respond too??? :confused:

lynchmob240

03-05-2002, 07:27 AM

4- 240sx
6-Porsche Turbo
8-Pontiac Trans Am Ws6
10-Dodge Viper
12-Porsche Carrera GT

crazycuban

03-05-2002, 07:30 AM

4 cyl - Lancer Evolution VII (can't believe that wasnt mentioned...)
V6 - S4
I6 - M3/skyline GT-R
V8 - M3 GT-R, 550 (V8?)
V10 - can't think of anything off the top of my head besides the viper...and any F1 car...
V12 - don't know too much bout V12 cars...some kind of ferrari...

lynchmob240

03-05-2002, 07:39 AM

4-Porsche 944 Turbo
6-Porsche Gt2
8-Pontiac Trans Am Ws6
10- Dodge Viper
12-Lambo Diablo

thewholefnshow

03-05-2002, 07:41 AM

4cyl- toss up... really, 4g63 or the sr20det (s15)
6- new m3 or supra (takes more stock then the skyline)
   Maybe the Mistubishi fto... that 2 liter i6 is amazing.
V8- 426 hemi cuda
V10- Viper
V12- 3.0L F2002 Ferrari (Shumi's car... I know, not a road car but still... the redline is 22,000... 22,000!!! That is like 6k more then the last one. that is too crazy.

burgy240

03-05-2002, 07:53 AM

4cyl-s15 silvia
flat 4-wrx
I5-Volvo S70t5
flat6-911GT2
v6-right now probably 350Z
I6-Skline GT-R
V8-Modena/355F1/Cobra R
V10-ViperGTS-R
V12-Ford GT-40/55 Maranello/Rolls-Royce SIlver Seraph
V16-Bugatti EB 16
Rotary-RX-8

tnord

03-05-2002, 08:22 AM

picking the best car with a motor and picking a motor are two different things, so i think i'll pick engines

I4-S2000
I6-M3
V6-Maxima
Boxer6-porsche is only one aren't they?
V8-360 Modena/F40
V10-can't really think of anything cool
V12-550 Maranello

think of 22k rpm, that's up in the area that super/turbochargers operate

bladen

03-05-2002, 08:31 AM

4cyl- the s-15 of course.
6-cyl, Difficult, either the R34 gt-r or the Supra TT
8cyl-ZO6 corvette ( just for the style) or a 2002 Camaro convertable, ( last year there being produced)
10cyl- viper ( would leave it in the garage)
12 cyl- ummmm the Ferrari F-40, and i think the F-50 is a 12 cyl also, so that would be it if it is.

thewholefnshow

03-05-2002, 08:33 AM

Rotary... rx-8. I just remember rotors, I would take the cosmos triple rotor engine, and my brother found evidence that there is a 6 rotor engine in existence too... that would be reall cool. Like 1200hp naturally aspirated... the f40 is a twin trubo v8 though. I think.

(Edited by thewholefnshow at 8:33 am on Mar. 5, 2002)

03-05-2002, 09:09 AM

4cyl- S15
6cyl- R34GTR or MkV Supra (how could you forget this catorgory? */slaps 2B*
V6- Honda NSX? Not a lot of V6's I like
V8- Depends, I prefer over 5L engines, bit hard to say
V10- Like I have any chance of owning one
V12- Even less chance of owning one, but a Lambo owns everything here

DrDubbleB

03-05-2002, 10:38 AM

Grrr...the RX-8 is nothing compared to the 3rd gen RX-7...how can you say that's the best stock rotary car!?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

William

03-05-2002, 11:06 AM

here's what I think

4cyl - S2000 (just wait for the turbo kit)
6cyl - Supra TT, even they crush skylines
8cyl -  360 Modena F1
10cyl - Henessy Viper
12cyl - Mclaren F1

thewholefnshow

03-05-2002, 11:29 AM

The rx8 is way better than the 3rd gen, it make 270hp N/A and that is at 8000 rpms. They are not allowed in some places to give hp figures over 8000rpms. The renesis engine has shown to comfertably put out over 300 hp around 9500-10000 rpm's... still that is n/a 1.3 liter engine, that is a totally new breed of rotor. Doesn't eat as much oil thicker walls meant for greater durability and a host of other knick knacks that make the engine incredible... when there is a turbo for that it will make easily over 400hp, and I would be surprised if mazda didn't make like a high model where they do just that.

And the s2000's have turbo kits, the thing is the s2000 makes a loto f power based on high compression, so you have o change the internals to a great degree to make them work well with decent boost, however the cylinder walls are virtually indistructable with carbon fiber and composites making sure the walls never break.

s14vaxlr8

03-05-2002, 07:25 PM

4- wrx sti
6- 300zxtt
8- ws-6 trans am
10- sure why not..viper
12- didnt jag make a big boat 12cyl <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Tuck&Poke

03-05-2002, 07:36 PM

4: S2000 (yeeehaw!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
6: Supra
8: Corvette Z06
10: Viper....partly cause its the only sports car with a v10
12: Mclaren F1
16: Bugatti 16/4 Veyron (16cyl 4 turbos and 987hp...puleez lets go whore some fighter jets!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

onebadm5

03-05-2002, 08:52 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (thewholefnshow @ Mar. 04 2002,07:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">4cyl- toss up... really, 4g63 or the sr20det (s15)
6- new m3 or supra (takes more stock then the skyline)
Maybe the Mistubishi fto... that 2 liter i6 is amazing.
V8- 426 hemi cuda
V10- Viper
V12- 3.0L F2002 Ferrari (Shumi's car... I know, not a road car but still... the redline is 22,000... 22,000!!! That is like 6k more then the last one. that is too crazy.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
as per the 2002 FIA Forumula One Technical Regulations Handbook, "constructors are to use engines with no more than 10 cylinders and displacing no more than 3000 cc's."

The F2002 is a V10, not a V12.

crazycuban

03-05-2002, 11:26 PM

Yeah, I was about to say that...actually I think F1 cars use a flat 10 though...

BadMoJo

03-05-2002, 11:49 PM

I-4:-------S14mc
Flat-4:----Subaru WRX 22bSTI
V-6:------Grand National
I-6:-------R34 Skyline GTR
Flat-6:----97 Porsche Turbo S
V-8:------Ferrari 360 Modena / 71 426 Hemi Cuda'
V-10:-----Viper GTS
V-12:-----Ferrari F50

mbmbmb23

03-06-2002, 01:06 AM

4-S2000 (215HP NA, dual exhaust)
6-911 Turbo
8-Ford Pantera
10-duh
12-<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> XKE

jdm togue

03-06-2002, 01:18 AM

4 cyl- S13 fastback "sr20det"
I6 cyl- R32 gtr
V6- NSX Type R
v8- Lotus, of course
v12- 550 Marenello

03-06-2002, 01:46 AM

TNORD:
the subaru SVX had a turbo flat 6

BLADEN:
the F40 had a twin turbo V8, not a 12...FYI.  the F50 has a V12.

DuffMan

03-06-2002, 02:27 AM

4-cyl Any S13-S15
6-cyl Anthing with a turbo RB
8-cyl Porsche 928
10-Viper
12-Who cares I'll never be able to afford it!

burgy240

03-06-2002, 08:19 AM

I'm not sure about the flat ten's in formula one. I thought that the rule books changed that and you can't have a "wedge" greater than 179 degrees! Maybe thats that other racing (CART/ Indy) Oh well, I do remember one of the race teams talking about there "v" was 179 degrees in order to not exceed the rule book and also give the lowest center of gravity. I think it was Cart after all. Oh well. Also surprised no one mentioned anything anout my Inline five pick -Volvo s70.....oh well.

thewholefnshow

03-06-2002, 08:21 AM

Alright... that makes sence, it was just cause I remembers minardi and one other team running an engine with 2 less cylinders than the rest of the field for a while... I interpreted that wrong... oh well.

BadMoJo

03-06-2002, 01:11 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (burgy240 @ Mar. 05 2002,08:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also surprised no one mentioned anything anout my Inline five pick -Volvo s70.....oh well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I knew I forgot something.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  I also forgot the V-4 category.

V-4: Saab Sonett  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

crazycuban

03-06-2002, 02:16 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (burgy240 @ Mar. 05 2002,09:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm not sure about the flat ten's in formula one. I thought that the rule books changed that and you can't have a "wedge" greater than 179 degrees! Maybe thats that other racing (CART/ Indy) Oh well, I do remember one of the race teams talking about there "v" was 179 degrees in order to not exceed the rule book and also give the lowest center of gravity. I think it was Cart after all. Oh well. Also surprised no one mentioned anything anout my Inline five pick -Volvo s70.....oh well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
CART and IRL use a V-6.

onebadm5

03-06-2002, 02:38 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (crazycuban @ Mar. 06 2002,2:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (burgy240 @ Mar. 05 2002,09:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm not sure about the flat ten's in formula one. I thought that the rule books changed that and you can't have a "wedge" greater than 179 degrees! Maybe thats that other racing (CART/ Indy) Oh well, I do remember one of the race teams talking about there "v" was 179 degrees in order to not exceed the rule book and also give the lowest center of gravity. I think it was Cart after all. Oh well. Also surprised no one mentioned anything anout my Inline five pick -Volvo s70.....oh well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
CART and IRL use a V-6.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
UHHHHHHH, NO!

Championship Auto Racing Teams uses 2.65 Liter Single Turbocharged DOHC V8's supplied by Toyota Racing Development, Honda Performance Development, and Ford-Cosworth. (at least till '03, when they switch to the NA engine, and Honda drops out.)

The Indy Racing League uses 3.5 Naturally Aspirated DOHC V8's supplied by Chevrolet and Infiniti, and built by third party engine builders.

S13Grl

03-06-2002, 02:43 PM

4cyl-Subaru Impreza WRX STI/S13-14
6-R33 GTR Spec-V
V8-Porsche 928
V10-Still contemplating
V12-BMW 850

thewholefnshow

03-06-2002, 02:48 PM

But Cart runs on methanol though too right? F1 cars have to run some semblance of pump gas right? Little help?

crazycuban

03-06-2002, 02:51 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (onebadm5 @ Mar. 05 2002,3:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (crazycuban @ Mar. 06 2002,2:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
CART and IRL use a V-6.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
UHHHHHHH, NO!

Championship Auto Racing Teams uses 2.65 Liter Single Turbocharged DOHC V8's supplied by Toyota Racing Development, Honda Performance Development, and Ford-Cosworth. (at least till '03, when they switch to the NA engine, and Honda drops out.)

The Indy Racing League uses 3.5 Naturally Aspirated DOHC V8's supplied by Chevrolet and Infiniti, and built by third party engine builders.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah, sorry, I'm dumb.

But isn't the N/A engine supposed to be a V6?  I thought I heard something about a V6 when reading about CART or IRL...or maybe I just pulled it out my ass.

onebadm5

03-06-2002, 02:57 PM

CART and IRL run on Methanol.

F1 fuel does resemble gas, but the 2 main ingredients are Toluene and Xylene. very high octane, but very nasty stuff.

i'll bet u could mix up your own gas, they sell that stuff at home depot. but i would not reccomend it. many speedheads have tried it and come out with 2nd or 3rd degree burns cause they dont mix it correctly.