j30 vlsd or 1.5 way lsd

[SilviaSR20DET]

Alright im really getting tired of a welded diff, want something more streetable and won't make my car sound like its going to break every turn i make. Im looking for something that will be the most cost effective solution. I really am getting into road racing and autox not drifting. Which would you guys prefer? I know lsd will wins hands down but how will a vlsd hold up to moderate performance driving?

[ILoveMyRHS13]

So wait, you're not into drifting, yet you have a welded diff?

I say go with a 1.5way if you have the money.

Even during "moderate performance driving" the viscous will heat up and open up.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

s15 Helical

[niSm095]

Like he ^ said. Helical would be cool. Don't go with a J30, I have one- I don't mind it terribly, but I have noticed it slip a bit after abuse. But more importantly, the gearing is awful. J30's a highway car, a helical or even thought it's a vlsd and s14 diff would be better.

[SilviaSR20DET]

Yeah at first i wanted to get into the sport of drifting but its expensive to replace tires so often and i figured a welded diff would be good in the turns which i was wrong lol. How much do helicals run nowadays? Looks like helical or 1.5 way is best for me..

[trsilvias13]

There is always the Obx diff. Some ppl like them and they are cheap.

[isixphill]

fyi competitive road racing and autoX are waayy more expensive than drifting

tires for drifting are 100 a pop (for good ones)

in road racing there an upwards of 300 a pop

[fckillerbee]

fyi competitive road racing and autoX are waayy more expensive than drifting

tires for drifting are 100 a pop (for good ones)

in road racing there an upwards of 300 a pop


not at a amature level. If you do it "spirited" you don't have to spend 300 bucks per tire. If you are really into it, then yes....it will get more costly than drifting.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

lol at that $100 tires comment. drifting really does suck, nowadays.

[SilviaSR20DET]

I'm not at a competition level and im pretty sure i wouldnt need a spare tire from one day of autox or road racing. I may get into some drifting if im good enough at controlling my car so i dont total it first time around so i think i may just save up and go 1.5 way. Which brand you guys recommend thats great quality and priced fairly well?

[az_240]

lol at that $100 tires comment. drifting really does suck, nowadays.

you mean the "scene" sucks?

Cusco 1.5 way or helical

[drift freaq]

Like he ^ said. Helical would be cool. Don't go with a J30, I have one- I don't mind it terribly, but I have noticed it slip a bit after abuse. But more importantly, the gearing is awful. J30's a highway car, a helical or even thought it's a vlsd and s14 diff would be better.

Dude its in your head. J30 diff is like barely 4% different, its not all freeway cruiser like you think. If it was it would be like a 3:53 its a 3:92 and our cars are 4.08

I bet your running a bone stock worn out KA cause if you were running a turbo charged engine you would not even notice it.

To the OP if your not going drifting get a helical if you want to drift then a 1.5 and as far as brand goes?

Do some research , seriously reading up on the different brands will tell you more than most people here can tell you.

Reason I say that is most people here select one brand or the other and have not used more than one or two brands.

[SilviaSR20DET]

How are the obx helicals? Direct drop in or does it need any kind of modification? Seems like a good deal on ebay at 350.

[Xise]

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the OBX diff is $375 on ebay also

[OBEEWON]

Who here has a helical?

Cuz they suck.

Even for DD.

1.5 isn't worth the money.

J30's are practically free. But they suck above all.

Clutch type? I have no expirience with these though.

So far free J30 is winning.

[LegitSeller]

sure its not worth the money, if you pay full price.
im pretty sure the other lsds will start to suck the more and more heat they get.

[Black Lion]

go with j30 you can get it cheap from the junk yard thats what im going to do

[SilviaSR20DET]

Why do helicals suck? Alot of people seem to like them for DD as they are even used on the s15s.

[OBEEWON]

They are the G.O.A.T. if you only want them to lock 3 times...ever.

Don't get one wheel on a slick surface and one on pavement or KABOOM...guess who stepped in the room.






















































Takal hailing from the Shaolin Isle...

[az_240]

Helicals are fine... you just can't drift with them. If you get a clutch type you get the best of both worlds but it will make more noise. You can get a used one for around $400 in a pumpkin

Installing them into the pumpkin is a bitch. If the backlash is wrong or they are shimmed incorrectly it will make noise and wear things out.

[SilviaSR20DET]

Lets say i found a used s15 helical out of the pumpkin. Can i just reuse the shims i already have in there and just install it just like a regular diff install? Found one on ebay thats out of the pumpkin.

[az_240]

Use whatever shims that are in the pumpkin you are using. You have to make sure they go in the exact order they came out...

[SilviaSR20DET]

okay i did a diff swap before so pretty sure ill get it right in terms of order. crap just realized you need s15 output shafts and 13mm bolts for the ring and pinion. Theres lots of missing stuff thats needed that i didnt realize.

[drift freaq]

They are the G.O.A.T. if you only want them to lock 3 times...ever.

Don't get one wheel on a slick surface and one on pavement or KABOOM...guess who stepped in the room.
















































Takal hailing from the Shaolin Isle...

this sounds like shear ignorance at best. I think you are caught up in I need a clutch pack because I am a mad tyte drifter yo syndrome. I suggest you take your head out of your ass and shut the fuck up.

Helicals are fine and not everybody needs to be busting a drift in the rain yo.

[Xbroke_kidX]

I have driven my friends s13 with a helical and I can so first hand for gripping for daily its amazing. I daily'd my car with a welded for over a year and had no complaints. To each his own. Try to go drive people cars or get rides in them with different diffs. Only way to tell what YOU like is to experience it first hand. Dont go off other people second hand bullshit info.

[az_240]

^truth

I rode in a car with a welded for the first time about a week ago and I can say I will never own one.

[wh0aitznic0]

I drove a 2-way'd car before. I thought I broke it with all the clunking. :hyper:

[az_240]

My Cusco RS 2-way has basically no clunking with Motul 90-PA. I think it depends a lot on what oil you use. Redline made it clunk.

[babyjesus]

There is always the Obx diff. Some ppl like them and they are cheap.

im interested in the obx ones too...are they any good? i was gonna go cusco, but if i can save some moneys i'll do that

[Xbroke_kidX]

^ money = quality
Very simple. Though it seems to slip the minds of alot of people.

[bones321]

just suck it up with the welded for a few more weeks and just upgrade, take your time, and try going in rides for feel of a different diff.
I myslef have a welded and i can deal with it and like it, but rode in friends 1.5 and i love it. its more just of what you prefer.

[rage]

what about the shimmed vlsd, and use the 240 r/p?

[niteridaz503]

what about the shimmed vlsd, and use the 240 r/p?
Shimmed VLSD's are the shit too because they work better than just a regular vlsd with fresh oil did that in my old one and used 1mm shim or something like that and it locked up however whenever i needed it lol but a Tomei technical trax 2 way is the best ive driven by far

[OBEEWON]

this sounds like shear ignorance at best. I think you are caught up in I need a clutch pack because I am a mad tyte drifter yo syndrome. I suggest you take your head out of your ass and shut the fuck up.

Helicals are fine and not everybody needs to be busting a drift in the rain yo.


Any retard who says Mad Tye yo anything has no credibility. It's not 94 anymore goose poop.

I never mentioned anything about drifting. (lol you're one to talk with the screen name driftfreaq, and the picture of a Japanese chick in your avatar) In my DAILY driver I have a helical and in the rain snow etc., it's performance is not that great for what I paid. Yes it works, but it isn't worth the money.

[OBEEWON]

I would def do a shimmed VLSD over a Helical for a daily. You cannot argue with the cost. Plus if it goes VLSD's are practically free.

[SilviaSR20DET]

how do you shim a vlsd? Any good writeup's and or pics? what advantages does that have over helical?

[SilviaSR20DET]

Nevermind found a writeup. However, how close is it to the 1.5 way in terms of durability in drifting?

[josephin510]

I drove a s13 with a Kaaz 2way besides the clunking at low speed turns the car felt firmly planted on turns unlike a welded diff (My Daily). Just do what everyone else does buy the cheap ones over and over till you learn better. VLSD,WELDED,USED EBAY (insert brand________) 2-way, then a Brand new LSD.:blah::blah::blah::blah:

[s142jzkillav10]

Would any one have any experience with the OBX helical in drag racing ???

Any people don't like them b/c they lock up or don't lock both wheels when they should ??

[monaS14.5]

is a welded diff really that bad? for a daily driver too?

[cole shoes]

im in the market for lsd too, im going to go with 1.5 for sure. anyone have any suggestions on a different final drive or just leave it alone?

[az_240]

^stock 4.08 is fine. Some people go higher but it creates problems with heat if you go too aggressive. For the clutched lsds it is a good idea to get a finned diff cover and use quality fluid such as Motul 90pa...

Welded diffs are horrible for daily.... I wouldnt even want to use one on the track but that's just me.

[drift freaq]

Any retard who says Mad Tye yo anything has no credibility. It's not 94 anymore goose poop.

I never mentioned anything about drifting. (lol you're one to talk with the screen name driftfreaq, and the picture of a Japanese chick in your avatar) In my DAILY driver I have a helical and in the rain snow etc., it's performance is not that great for what I paid. Yes it works, but it isn't worth the money.

LOL you crack me up. First off I was being sarcastic with the mad tyte yo comment. Which seems to be lost on you even though you should know better by now.

Next off credibility? Ah dude you jump before reading. I probably have more info about Nissans and 240 in my little pinky than you have in your little brain.

Oh and don't go cry about the comment above because you basically called me out on it.

Oh and for my screen name lol thats tongue in cheek as well. Oh and the Japanese girl in my avatar happens to be my girlfriend you retard and that is a pretty well known fact as well. In fact most people think shes my wife because we have been together so long.

So next time you go assuming shit about people realize it makes you look like an ass.

Oh and you do have your head up your ass about Helical's. Oh and your screen name fails you. The force is not with you. :rofl:

[lflkajfj12123]

drift_freaq

every other post i read of yours is you arguing with someone and throwing petty insults around

umad? don't like it when shots are fired at you then don't ask for it all the time

also welded diff is not bad for a daily driver at all (unless you don't know how to drive)

[drift freaq]

drift_freaq

every other post i read of yours is you arguing with someone and throwing petty insults around

umad? don't like it when shots are fired at you then don't ask for it all the time

also welded diff is not bad for a daily driver at all (unless you don't know how to drive)

No Soap I am not mad, the guy talked out his ass about helicals. I have a strong dislike for wrong information and when people spout it. I point it out and correct it. Call it a character defect. LOL

I was being sarcastic towards Obeewon with the mad tyte yo comment and he missed the sarcasm big time. Oh and he did call out a response with his statement response to what I wrote, he attacked back and I responded. That was all. My response was more laughing his response than anything.

I don't call out people, as much as I call out their uninformed ignorant statements. I usually just correct their misinformation. Its funny that the minute I make a remark and they respond, people like you immediately think I am mad and fail to realize the reason I made my comment.

Just because I am willing to say someone is talking out their ass people get all oh oh oh.

There is another person here that spouts misinformation on a regular basis as well as just pure bullshit. I tend to cross hairs with him because of it.

Funny thing is the people I cross with are usually ignorant uniformed 25 and under's.
In the end, mad? no. Do I enjoy a few flames? Sure. I am up to a debate sure. Thin skinned no. Willing to respond? Yes.


Oh and thank you for taking this thread completely off topic with your statement to me.

Oh and welded diffs suck for daily driving, even if you do know how to drive, in my opinion.

[cole shoes]

^stock 4.08 is fine. Some people go higher but it creates problems with heat if you go too aggressive. For the clutched lsds it is a good idea to get a finned diff cover and use quality fluid such as Motul 90pa...

Welded diffs are horrible for daily.... I wouldnt even want to use one on the track but that's just me.

thanks man

[newslidz]

Ok I am currious I picked up some 300zx stuff for my ka-t project and I got a 300zx diff I know it has the 408 gears but is the quality/ strength better then the j30 or q45?

[az_240]

^No they will be the same. With VLSDs it really depends on how the previous owners used them and took care of them.