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Worfless
03-02-2010, 11:09 PM
Ive got p45r 17x9 +12 in the front running on nexen 245x35 and rear 17x9.5 +12 with 275x45 anyone ever done this setup on stock suspension? basically im rubbing all the way around i dont know if i should go fender roll or overfenders, would really like to see someone with this setup and what they did... anyone got input?

Touge180sx
03-02-2010, 11:15 PM
Wait how is your shit rubbing on stock suspension??

Roll it and lower it 5 inches!

Edit 275 45 wat?

SR240DET
03-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Ive got p45r 17x9 +12 in the front running on nexen 245x35 and rear 17x9.5 +12 with 275x45 anyone ever done this setup on stock suspension? basically im rubbing all the way around i dont know if i should go fender roll or overfenders, would really like to see someone with this setup and what they did... anyone got input?

Stock suspension as in stock control arms and multi-link? How much are you rubbing? Common sense should tell you if you should roll, pull,or use over fenders. You could run more negative camber if you're not rubbing much. There are ways to calculate wheel clearance before you make your purchase.

Picaso
03-02-2010, 11:21 PM
IMO. fender roll unless you're planning on being fully kitted.. saw a picture of a car with the same wheels with stretched tire, looked clean.

Picaso
03-02-2010, 11:22 PM
Wait how is your shit rubbing on stock suspension??

Roll it and lower it 5 inches!

Edit 275 45 wat?


haha seriously. must be some big ass tires

Worfless
03-02-2010, 11:29 PM
tried to use a big ass tire so i got more rubber down for the drag strip :)

xGongx
03-03-2010, 02:03 AM
put some pic up?

sincity_sil80
03-03-2010, 05:09 AM
Wait how is your shit rubbing on stock suspension??

Roll it and lower it 5 inches!

Edit 275 45 wat?

275/45/17 .. he mentioned the size in the op. oh and to the op, you never mentioned what car you had, maybe a little more info would be helpful. but if your rubbing just a little bit on the fenders, a roll should do you good. I personally would upgrade your suspension first and try to add a little camber that way not as much of a roll or pull is needed. the wheels arent too crazy of an offset. just my .02 gl

fliprayzin240sx
03-03-2010, 07:10 AM
275/45-17s...seriously???

NolatypeS
03-03-2010, 07:16 AM
245 in the front? i thought i was dumb for putting a 235 in the front.

I just put stance gr+ pro's on with the isis package and these p45r's same size as yours. just did a pull on all corners and im straight. I also took a collar out of the front 2 struts to go lower. This is my daily btw.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/thewinningl0ser/IMG_0082.jpg
I actually need to pull some of the camber out in the rear now since the pull created some space for me. The car is getting painted sometime soon
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/thewinningl0ser/IMG_0084.jpg

nathanong87
03-03-2010, 07:40 AM
go widebody.

SoSideways
03-03-2010, 08:19 AM
First of all, it's not so much the width of the tire that gives you traction off the line as it is the sidewall.

Second of all, if you're trying to get traction w/ stock suspension, then it should be plenty high enough that the tire will camber in enough to tuck the tire behind the fender, as long as the fenders are rolled and maybe pulled a little.

You don't need widebody.

Worfless
03-03-2010, 10:41 AM
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx52/woRthy89/photo.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx52/woRthy89/photo2.jpg


The first picture should be the most helpful so negative camber in the rear? what about the front? it rubs when i turn about half a turn

bshotts
03-03-2010, 10:53 AM
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx52/woRthy89/photo.jpg

The first picture should be the most helpful so negative camber in the rear? what about the front? it rubs when i turn about half a turn

From my calculations, you have 111mm frontspace for the front setup/126mm frontspace for the rear. From what we know about S13s, max fronspace front rear is about 100mm, therefore without running assloads of camber on either end (which I'm assuming you're trying to avoid by the width of your tires) you'll need roughly a 10mm roll/pull for the front and 20-25mm roll/pull on the rear. Roll/pull is usually cheaper unless you really don't take your time with a lot of heat and you crack/chip paint, buckle fenders, etc.

Could you go with narrower tires? 225 front/245 rear would fit much better, and you'd only have to buy a pair of 225s, which you could most likely afford by selling the 275s. Good luck!

ericcastro
03-03-2010, 12:00 PM
stretch some tires on there and roll the fenders.

R33E8
03-03-2010, 12:40 PM
I would go with a widebody.. The wheels and tire combo looks great btw.. I like meaty tires :D If you run too much camber you will lose straight line grip..

ericcastro
03-03-2010, 03:42 PM
I actually think you need to tell us what the car was build for.

Cause a sidewall like thats gonna suck for drifting.
And you need to stretch it.

SoSideways
03-03-2010, 05:00 PM
I actually think you need to tell us what the car was build for.

Cause a sidewall like thats gonna suck for drifting.
And you need to stretch it.

He said he wants to go down the drag strip fast.

So this dude needs SIDEWALLS, not so much width.

Although if he stretched a huge sidewall tire on there, it doesn't help with grip either, but still, I just think this dude straight up bought the wheels before he knew how they were going to fit, and now they don't fit, he's trying to figure out how.

Anyway, if you want to keep everything the way they are and run no camber at static ride height, then I actually recommend you getting some over fenders.

It's been so long since I've seen a stock ride height 240 w/ decent sized/width/offset wheels that I forgot how much they actually stick out.

ericcastro
03-03-2010, 06:46 PM
He said he wants to go down the drag strip fast.

So this dude needs SIDEWALLS, not so much width.

Although if he stretched a huge sidewall tire on there, it doesn't help with grip either, but still, I just think this dude straight up bought the wheels before he knew how they were going to fit, and now they don't fit, he's trying to figure out how.

Anyway, if you want to keep everything the way they are and run no camber at static ride height, then I actually recommend you getting some over fenders.

It's been so long since I've seen a stock ride height 240 w/ decent sized/width/offset wheels that I forgot how much they actually stick out.

Ah, i read through it fast, and its a couple post in.
missed it.

dont know shit about drag, forget what I said, Im outta here!

SoSideways
03-04-2010, 12:45 PM
hahaha no worries man!

I know for some of the 240 drag guys, they'll actually dial in some positive camber at static ride height so that when their cars squat down during launch and subsequently, the rest of the run, the camber curve in the suspension brings it back down closer to 0 camber.

So with those wheels already sticking out that much, and if you may run positive camber, definitely get some over fenders for it.