isis coilovers review

[JurisMyDiction]

*edit* mods, i just realized i named my thread the same as the original thread started by another user so if you could change the name to "isis coilovers writeup" or something along those lines i'd appreciate it.

Ok, here's some background info. keep in mind the motor popped so i only got to ride ont he coils for a couple days

THE CAR
the car's an '89 coupe with like 25X,XXX miles on it, and it's in really rough shape, i bought it as a project. one of the first things i decided to do, since the suspension that came on the car was GONE, was buy some inexpensive coilovers. when i heard about the price on these ISIS coils i couldn't resist. i found no info on them except the specs (which were great), and a bunch of people talking about how horrible they were, even though they'd never even seen a physical set in their lives. naturally, i had to have them. It's nice to be the first because usually you're plesantly surprised with the end result, and you get in before everyone catches on and the price goes up. This is pretty much the case here.

THE COILS
the coils are the ISIS basic HR's. they're fully ride height adjustable in 2 ways. first, the spring itself is adjustable as it is on pretty much all traditional coilovers, second, the actual damper is adjustable within the mounting hardware, this is to ensure that even at their lowes point, the damper is positioned in a way that the suspension has pretty much "full travel" they are also fully camber adjustable up front while the rears are a static mount. They are also very attractive... here are the specs from the site i got them on


ISIS [I-sis] Basic HR Coilovers - Nissan 240sx 89-93.

These are a great Entry level basic coilovers for the street and occasional track use. Provides a comfortable ride while improving handling

Fully Height Adjustable and 8 way adjustable dampening. Twin Tube Design. Front Pillowball Upper Camber mounts. Rear solid upper bushing for more comfortable street driving

Spring Rate - 8K Front, 6K Rear.
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THE INSTALLATION
very straightforward, i haven't messed with the dampening or camber since i put them in, which leaves an even better impression on me considering how they felt when i drove on them

THE IMPRESSION

"the good"
without the car being aligned, and without the dampening being adjusted, the coilvers still felt GREAT, for an entry level coil i was absolutely taken aback by how well the car handled compared to stock, they felt pretty hard in turns but i didn't necessarily feel every pebble in the road, speed bumps were a bit rough but hey, when aren't they with coilovers?

"the bad"
only two things i don't really like about the coils, one is that i was kind of hoping to ge a real "slam" out of them, what they gave was still a decent drop, but not necessarily a "slam," as you will see later in the pictures. i will take out the rear adjustment perches to get another 3/4 to 1 inch out of the backs. second problem, aslo in the back, is that while in the fronts the bottom of the mount is open so the shock can be adjusted as low as the user wishes, the rears had a stopping point, this is by design of the nissan suspension, and there is no way to logically remedy it, but it was an annoyance nonetheless.

THE PICS

sorry for the horrible image quality, i'll have better ones up tomorrow, these pictures were taken from about waist level, and from about 8-10 feet away, as most of you know, point and shoot cameras tend to distort the dimensions of the actual image, and they actually look beter in person, hopefully day pictures will do a bit more justice. for now this is all you get! haha

keep in mind i'm on 195/60/15's so for those of you with bigger wheel/tire combos, you will get more tire under the fender (i would imagine), and please excuse the fact that it's a shitbox, it's a work in progress.

here's a generic
http://www.enjukuracing.com/images/s13coiloversnew.jpg

here are mine
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/jurismydiction/IMG_1248.jpg
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/jurismydiction/IMG_1246.jpg
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/jurismydiction/IMG_1247.jpg
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/jurismydiction/IMG_1245.jpg

[omgRWDgoodness!]

Not a slam? These are damn near perfect height if you ask me (and that's on stock wheels!)

[drift_limo]

Not a slam? These are damn near perfect height if you ask me (and that's on stock wheels!)

perfect height? maybe
slammed.... no..

on my stock wheels with tanabe sustec 7's i can slam over the tirewall.

shorter spring that should lower the car a bit more.

[JurisMyDiction]

perfect height? maybe
slammed.... no..

on my stock wheels with tanabe sustec 7's i can slam over the tirewall.

shorter spring that should lower the car a bit more.

you have isis? i have them all the way down but is there somewhere i could find shorter springs?

[OBEEWON]

What other coilover brands do you have first had expirience with? How do these compare?

[babyjesus]

What other coilover brands do you have first had expirience with? How do these compare?


^^ yeah please let us know, im interested in a set for my brother

[JurisMyDiction]

ridden in 240's with d-max and stance, though briefly. also have first hand experience with vogtland (on my jetta), tokico on my madaspeed, and a whole mess of others from friends cars.

[iwannaslyde]

im interested to know what springs we can swap onto these in order to get a little more drop, though i do like the way they sit as is....

[KA24DESOneThree]

How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

OP, it's not you... it's me.

[stinky_180]

you should check out the pink car in the other isis thread ^.^

[AE_Racer]

How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.



:hahano:

:bigok:

lol zilvia and FL

[SpuGen]

How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

OP, it's not you... it's me.

This.

Seems like a cheapo entry coilover.
I would only get these if they stopped making Stance.

Please do an actual full review and compare it with other coilovers for the same car before doing this again.

[BlitzRPS13]

How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

OP, it's not you... it's me.

Msg length.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

OP, it's not you... it's me.


i am glad i wasn't the only person who thought this right away.



carry on.

[iwannaslyde]

:hahano:

:bigok:

lol zilvia and FL

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[Deviousjet]

How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

OP, it's not you... it's me.

Dude what do you want from the OP Seriously. You want him to buy all of the coilovers that the market has to offer and compare them to the isis to make you happy? This dude and I don't have 1500 dollars to spend on a suspension. Yeah he compared it to his crap blown suspension it's miles better big whoop. I personally don't even care about wheel fitment and slamming a car those are bigger pains in the ass than looking good. It's low enough for me. It's cheap and it makes the car feel way better. It get s the job done. It's not going to beat the super awesome teins, Stance, PBM, Whatever but it's less than half the cost and it's better than rolling on stock. Don't shoot the guy down because he can't give you a review on what stance, etc feels compared to that if he could afford those brands he would be all over them. Me included. Quit hating on this thread. No one is saying that these are better than the name brand. But they are saying that they are a good beginner coil. i will purchase a set of these by the end of this summer.

[Jolly Crape]

Dude what do you want from the OP Seriously. You want him to buy all of the coilovers that the market has to offer and compare them to the isis to make you happy? This dude and I don't have 1500 dollars to spend on a suspension. Yeah he compared it to his crap blown suspension it's miles better big whoop. I personally don't even care about wheel fitment and slamming a car those are bigger pains in the ass than looking good. It's low enough for me. It's cheap and it makes the car feel way better. It get s the job done. It's not going to beat the super awesome teins, Stance, PBM, Whatever but it's less than half the cost and it's better than rolling on stock. Don't shoot the guy down because he can't give you a review on what stance, etc feels compared to that if he could afford those brands he would be all over them. Me included. Quit hating on this thread. No one is saying that these are better than the name brand. But they are saying that they are a good beginner coil. i will purchase a set of these by the end of this summer.


thank you!, this is just a forum, not a damn magazine with shit tons of money to buy everything and write full spec reviews.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

God damnit, not another one of these fucking threads.

You say you don't have the money for "good suspension."

Ever try saving your money? Last summer I worked part time (20 hours a week MAX) at $8 an hour. What kind of coils do I have on my car? PBM.

It really isn't that hard. Just put a little away each paycheck.

PS- That's not slammed.

[drift freaq]

Dude what do you want from the OP Seriously. You want him to buy all of the coilovers that the market has to offer and compare them to the isis to make you happy? This dude and I don't have 1500 dollars to spend on a suspension. Yeah he compared it to his crap blown suspension it's miles better big whoop. I personally don't even care about wheel fitment and slamming a car those are bigger pains in the ass than looking good. It's low enough for me. It's cheap and it makes the car feel way better. It get s the job done. It's not going to beat the super awesome teins, Stance, PBM, Whatever but it's less than half the cost and it's better than rolling on stock. Don't shoot the guy down because he can't give you a review on what stance, etc feels compared to that if he could afford those brands he would be all over them. Me included. Quit hating on this thread. No one is saying that these are better than the name brand. But they are saying that they are a good beginner coil. i will purchase a set of these by the end of this summer.

It still does not make his review all that informative. Excuse people here but basically we see so many coilovers coming out, that we do want to know just how good they really are compared to others.
We like to see informative reviews and truthfully all his review said was it felt better than blown stock and compared to his one or two rides on other coilovers in others cars.

It did not really give us any info on rebound and his statement about going over bumps and "well we all know how coilovers are" was completely useless.

Not all coilovers are the same over bumps. Crap ones are, good ones are not.

Seriously before you get all annoyed about people bashing his review read it again and realize it does not tell you much that would help you in considering purchasing said coils.

[OBEEWON]

There should be "broke, middle class, and baaalin'.." sections of Zilvia.

[Weedm]

weeeeeeeeeee

[JurisMyDiction]

Ok,

1. Never said this was a comparison thread, these are not gods gift to coilovers, they are simply an alternative to expensive coils.

2. Never said I didn't have the money, never had the intention of paying a huge amount on "name recognition" coils. I wanted to go the cheap route because this car is not gonna be a track whore race car, just a fun weekend car. It'll probably get an sr with light mods and stay that way.

3. The intention of this thread was to simply add to the very little info available about the coils and put up pictures of the ride height they offer.

4. If you don't want these coilovers, please don't buy them, I do not make or lose money, time, pride, or sweat in correlation with isis sales. The coils are dirt cheap, offer a great ride/ride height, and they have a lifetime warranty.

For the budget minded consumer, I say definitely go for some isis, for those who feel the need to be "zilvia cool." Check out stance, d-max, tien, etc.

[omgRWDgoodness!]

*sigh* Heaven forbid you aren't riding on the same goddamn coils everyone else is on and aren't tucking your fucking retarded looking stretched-out tires on "hella tyte" 18" rims that look like shit. I'm aware that that isn't slammed, and that you're not slammed until your frame is on the street...but that's a great ride height for the price of these coilovers if you ask me. /rant

Props to OP, I thought your post was very informative.

[Soup Nazi]

*sigh* Heaven forbid you aren't riding on the same goddamn coils everyone else is on and aren't tucking your fucking retarded looking stretched-out tires on "hella tyte" 18" rims that look like shit. I'm aware that that isn't slammed, and that you're not slammed until your frame is on the street...but that's a great ride height for the price of these coilovers if you ask me. /rant

Props to OP, I thought your post was very informative.

Nice job with the Ninja edit.

You shouldve been pinked

[Deviousjet]

It still does not make his review all that informative. Excuse people here but basically we see so many coilovers coming out, that we do want to know just how good they really are compared to others.
We like to see informative reviews and truthfully all his review said was it felt better than blown stock and compared to his one or two rides on other coilovers in others cars.

It did not really give us any info on rebound and his statement about going over bumps and "well we all know how coilovers are" was completely useless.

Not all coilovers are the same over bumps. Crap ones are, good ones are not.

Seriously before you get all annoyed about people bashing his review read it again and realize it does not tell you much that would help you in considering purchasing said coils.

WellWhy do you want a review of these parts. Not trying to come off mad man. Get what you want but isn't that the point? According to you everything besides name brand sucks. So why do you want him to compare it for you if all you will buy is Brand name stuff cause Ebay stuff is stupid?

[Deviousjet]

[QUOTE=JurisMyDiction;3322893]Ok,

2. Never said I didn't have the money, never had the intention of paying a huge amount on "name recognition" coils. I wanted to go the cheap route because this car is not gonna be a track whore race car, just a fun weekend car. It'll probably get an sr with light mods and stay that way.



My bad man I shouldn't have assumed you didn't have the money I don't know you. Anyways thanks for your review. IT sold me that's for damn sure.

[slider2828]

Personally... just personally.... WHO CARES!!!

Its a forum, people can read what they want and can believe what they want. There is not one person who can say they are the coilover god who knows everything. Forums and INTERNET is for posting personal opinions. No one can be libel to what they say on the internet period. Its just stupid if people think they are....

I mean yes you can find useful information and I don't mind what he wrote. For different folks his review is good and for some it doesn't work for them. I keep an open mind about whats out there and personally its cool. He has something to say about these coils and I don't mind listening. Its not a bad thing AND he posted pictures of how they look.

Its the internet... say what you want, its up to the reader to listen or not....

[drift freaq]

WellWhy do you want a review of these parts. Not trying to come off mad man. Get what you want but isn't that the point? According to you everything besides name brand sucks. So why do you want him to compare it for you if all you will buy is Brand name stuff cause Ebay stuff is stupid?

Wow you are an idiot. I am speaking generally for the forum. You also assume an awful lot of what I said, in fact you assume stuff I did not say. LOL

My point which you so blindly missed is the fact that, if you are going to review something do it right. He basically put them on his car said they lowered it nice and he thinks they ride ok. To sum it up.

That to me and to a lot of other people reading the forum is not that informative.

A statement like "speed bumps were a bit rough but hey, when aren't they with coilovers'? Is a uneducated statement and not review worthy.

It shows the reviewer does not even understand the physics involved in proper dampening.
If he had mentioned stuff about rebound and compression it would have been informative but excuse me that's probably just asking to much.

Though do I diverge by getting to technical for you?

Fact is the average person would still not get much out of the review, is not even in depth. He compares them to stock suspension, worn out stock suspension at that! He says they feel hard. Wow great analysis there.
He says they feel great but then goes on the make the speed bump statement.

What is so great about something that cannot handle proper rebound and compression? Which is pretty much what his speed bump statement is saying but he does not even realize that.

You asked me to tear his review apart in not so many words so do not cry about this post.

The review needs to be informative for the sake of people reading the forum. In its current state it does not say much. In fact a person could go out a buy these and find out they suck. Why because his review did not have enough information to make an informed decision from.

Excuse me for wanting good stuff to be posted on the forum that can actually help people.

[ericcastro]

Soooo, dude rode along in another car for a second, and had different coils on a different car, and writes a review??

How are you gonna write a review on something you have no other experience with?
Just sayin.

If you saw someone have ice cream for a second, had a push up pop once,.........Then you cant give a good review of an ice cream flavor, cause you got nothing to base it off of.....

[WISH ONE]

Drift freaq... take it easy my dude, dont blow a gasket.

[drift freaq]

WellWhy do you want a review of these parts. Not trying to come off mad man. Get what you want but isn't that the point? According to you everything besides name brand sucks. So why do you want him to compare it for you if all you will buy is Brand name stuff cause Ebay stuff is stupid?

Drift freaq... take it easy my dude, dont blow a gasket.
LOL once again someone reads a response thinking I am upset. Shit you guys are either short fused or have no idea what it really takes to piss a person.

Its like give an educated response and people think your mad. LOL

[WISH ONE]

No, I just didnt really see a need for someone to take that much time out of their day to write a story book about some crap coilover review thread. If thats what floats your boat, then so be it. Im glad you arent upset, have an awesome day.

[Perfect Balance]

Personally I agree with Drift Freaq. You guys realize how annoying it is when you're trying to find a proper suspension review and you come across hundreds and hundreds of pages of "it rides good" and "great for the street" and "too stiff for the street" and "I've had them for 1 year no problems yet."

Is that kind of information useful at all? Some people think stiff automatically = harsh, soft = rides good. In the end of it all you end up having to ignore pretty much all reviews and scrounge the internet to find a shock dyno or something, only to find out it's not for your application, or after reading hundreds of positive reviews, you find the shock dyno is just a linear plot like 90% of coilovers, making them no better than the next. It's the shit that plagues forums like Honda-tech (full of hard-parkers) and Nissan forums (bunch of drifters, where the suspension set-up is entirely different, and reviews are based on how low you can go.) You just get this overflow of crap from people who have no real understanding of what makes a good suspension setup, and giving advice to others about it.

Most aren't so bad, at least you get some close-up pictures of the build quality and the poster had some experience with various coilovers, but one like this is completely useless.


Before someone says something, I'm not mad.

[drift freaq]

No, I just didnt really see a need for someone to take that much time out of their day to write a story book about some crap coilover review thread. If thats what floats your boat, then so be it. Im glad you arent upset, have an awesome day.

time out of my day? That shit took like 5 minutes or less to type out. hahahhahhahhaha. It would have to have been a lot longer for it really waste time in my day.

Fast thought processing is your friend.

[Darkvillin]

to the op, these look alot like my "godspeed" adjustable coilovers i picked up for my s14' like identical minus the paint color on them. no they arent stance coils, but they are good for dd, not bouncy, and i like they way they make the car handle. i say thanks for the info. what was the price u paid for these again, just curious.

[JurisMyDiction]

they were around 650 iirc.


to everyone who took this thread for what it was meant to be, thank you very much for the praise and input. i looked into godspeed, d-max, and megan but these seemed a bit more appealing...

for those of you who had an orgasm at the mere thought of someone riding on coilovers that were under $1500, please find another thread to pedal your useless propaganda. you're comparing apples to oranges.

really, fuck me for trying to provide you guys with some informatino on a product i bought. you don't have to be a friggin physicist to know that the coilovers feel good. i never said "woah these are better than such and such," i simply said (in so many words) "here are some pictures and info on a product i just bought and happen to enjoy"

this forum is fuckin nuts, it's the INTERNET!!!! there is a plethora of spectacular knowledge here, and with an open forum comes the ability to expand on that knowledge infinitely (servers permitting), for all of those who immediately bashed me... thank to yourself when the last time you provided someone with a helpful and productive response... if you can't remember that time, i invite you to delete your account, as i'm sure trimming the "bad" fat of this forum will leave nothing but the meaty information i discussed previously.

if you don't have anything helpful to say, write down watever stupid nonsesnical comment it was you were going to say, roll it up, light it on fire, and place it under the curtains in your house... you won't be missed.

enough :blah:

i'll have some daytime pictures up by the weekend for those of you who are actually looking for information and not scowering the internet to find people who know less than you about a 20 year old car.

[Weedm]

Ehh. You get what you pay for. If that's what you like or was the only thing in your budget then I don't see what's worth criticizing about. If you like them then cool you got your moneys worth. Now all you have to do is take front and back shots in the daytime as well.

I'm almost certain you're not the only one who wanted to buy these, and I'm sure the pictures / information you provided can only help the other possible buyers.

And for those who think that reviews for ebay coils will only bring forth more possible ebay coil buyers, well you're probably right. That's just how it is. Even if there weren't reviews, someone is bound to buy a generic product eventually. There's no way to avoid it, unless the company(s) stop producing the generic items completely..

[spooled240]

i understand where this guy is coming from. This review covered how low these things go but we need a more extensive review of the actual ride quality, where some kind of compression and rebound can be analyzed. One guy's definition of "ride's pretty good" can mean "ride's extremely crappy" to another.

I have godspeed coilovers, (yes, godspeed..i obviously don't care) and to be completely honest the ride quality sucks! the springs feel way to stiff and the dampers feel nonexistent. When I go over a bump it feels like an upward jarring then a few bounces after that. But hey, what do you expect for 200 bucks? Shit feels more stable then blown suspension and they'll hold me off til I get some stance's or something.

To the OP, I'm not bashing this thread at all..i like to see people that are willing to review and test out new products but this review needs some more experimenting lol

[drift freaq]

they were around 650 iirc.


to everyone who took this thread for what it was meant to be, thank you very much for the praise and input. i looked into godspeed, d-max, and megan but these seemed a bit more appealing...

for those of you who had an orgasm at the mere thought of someone riding on coilovers that were under $1500, please find another thread to pedal your useless propaganda. you're comparing apples to oranges.

really, fuck me for trying to provide you guys with some informatino on a product i bought. you don't have to be a friggin physicist to know that the coilovers feel good. i never said "woah these are better than such and such," i simply said (in so many words) "here are some pictures and info on a product i just bought and happen to enjoy"

this forum is fuckin nuts, it's the INTERNET!!!! there is a plethora of spectacular knowledge here, and with an open forum comes the ability to expand on that knowledge infinitely (servers permitting), for all of those who immediately bashed me... thank to yourself when the last time you provided someone with a helpful and productive response... if you can't remember that time, i invite you to delete your account, as i'm sure trimming the "bad" fat of this forum will leave nothing but the meaty information i discussed previously.

if you don't have anything helpful to say, write down watever stupid nonsesnical comment it was you were going to say, roll it up, light it on fire, and place it under the curtains in your house... you won't be missed.

enough :blah:

i'll have some daytime pictures up by the weekend for those of you who are actually looking for information and not scowering the internet to find people who know less than you about a 20 year old car.

Wow you should really do some research before you start calling people out. I have provided quit a bit of technical info to this forum including faqs. I suggest you take a step back.

Your review fucking sucked. You suck at reviewing. I(your review)t provided practically no good info. Now I am sorry if I did not give you the strokes you were expecting, for your poor attempt at a review.To call what you wrote a review is just pure bullshit.

Either go back to school and learn how to write a real review or don't cry when your shit gets critiqued for being the uninformative shit it is.


P.S. you really prove to be one idiot ass noob telling informed long term members of this forum that do contribute to leave.

[Weedm]

Plenty of people look more into the pictures as to how low these ebay coils can go rather then the actual review of the quality / ride quality. oh wait.. what quality? :d

I'm sure that if ebay coils were able to achieve the slammed look, many people would buy them, and completely disregard the ride quality. then again I dont know what im talking about.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

So wait, where is the review?

Have you ever had any other coilovers on your car?

Of course going from struts and springs (stock or not) to coilovers is going to seem "OMFG MY CAR IS HANDLE TEH GOOD" but there are so many more aspects than that.

[WISH ONE]

Seriously, what were you guys expecting? cant you tell that this thread is going to fucking suck just from the title?? I mean really, what do you expect out of some 500+ dollar coilovers? do you really think that this will be one exception to all the chinese knockoff crap that is being produced and it will actually have some decent performance?? come on...almost always $500 or 600 will not get you up to par valving/spring rates, true rebound and compression adjustability, decent shock oil, or even monotube in most cases. it all comes down to the basics, you have to pay to play unless you have some extreme hookup ups or you can build and valve your own shocks, you have to spend ok money for something new and up to par.
spooled probably put up the most honest and sincere answer in my book.

[TheRealSy90]

How do you guys expect to receive this "more extensive review of the actual ride quality, where some kind of compression and rebound can be analyzed." Do you expect the guy to buy a coilover dyno? How is he supposed to explain all of that on a forum, even then, theres no way that the way he explains it would be the same as we would explain it if we were to ride in the car.

[smelly240]

i see it all this way... If your car looks like this guys (aka not a lotta money)... then get isis.

Its not like you dont know what they are. Theyre coilover for kids (and old people) that dont have $ for nice coilovers.

Are they NICE - no... or they wouldnt be 650 bucks. Are they better than blown stock stuff - Im sure they are.

You arent going to go from stance or even crappy megans - to these. Why care how they stack up against them? I dont even look at coilovers like these - You just dont go from nice name brand equipment to a budget based part.

There are nice parts (they cost money) and there are inexpensive parts that arent as good. Buy what u can afford.

[JurisMyDiction]

Wow you should really do some research before you start calling people out. I have provided quit a bit of technical info to this forum including faqs. I suggest you take a step back.

Your review fucking sucked. You suck at reviewing. I(your review)t provided practically no good info. Now I am sorry if I did not give you the strokes you were expecting, for your poor attempt at a review.To call what you wrote a review is just pure bullshit.

Either go back to school and learn how to write a real review or don't cry when your shit gets critiqued for being the uninformative shit it is.


P.S. you really prove to be one idiot ass noob telling informed long term members of this forum that do contribute to leave.


see but you completely misunderstood me. i said "if you don't ever provide good info, and all you do is bash people, you should leave" i don't care if i'm a noob or how long anyone's been here, you're only doing people a disservice by not providing good info... i never said you... if you happen to be someone who provides people with good info, and also bashes people, that might make you a dick every once in a while, but at least you make contribution.

i would love nothing more than to write a real "review" of these coilovers, and when i have more extensive info about them and other coilovers, i will do just that, for now, i will share the information i have.

i'm happy to hear your opinion about the coilovers, but if you're just gonna sit here and judge my character on the basis of a short review i wrote on a product i bought, then who's really the one being ridiculous? have you ever ridden on them? if so, then i welcome you to challenge my points, if not, then i guess that means i know more about them than you REGARDLESS of how long ago you signed up for this website. you might know MUCH more about everything else than me, but you're telling me how much of a "noob ass idiot" i am is not going to stop me from giving my opinion on a product that has barely any information out there.

[Deviousjet]

i see it all this way... If your car looks like this guys (aka not a lotta money)... then get isis.

Its not like you dont know what they are. Theyre coilover for kids (and old people) that dont have $ for nice coilovers.

Are they NICE - no... or they wouldnt be 650 bucks. Are they better than blown stock stuff - Im sure they are.

You arent going to go from stance or even crappy megans - to these. Why care how they stack up against them? I dont even look at coilovers like these - You just dont go from nice name brand equipment to a budget based part.

There are nice parts (they cost money) and there are inexpensive parts that arent as good. Buy what u can afford.

This man has made the most sense in this whole entire thread. My posts included. OP enjoy your suspension. I'm sure it's great. enjoy your purchase ignore the dudes that want to compare this to their great suspensions because they feel like they have to justify that their expense was so good that they can't imagine people would get something for less and still be happy. Anyways I get what you guys are getting at but the truth of the matter is the op did the best with what he had how can he get commpression rates and compare them without a shock dyno or getting the information from Ken. Much less what does it matter guys. If you wanna spend your hard earned dollars on a baller suspension please do. If you got other expenses, IE kids, school, family w/e just like if you weld a diff compared to getting an lsd. If you want to go all out and you plan on competing then get something super badass if not and you just like drifting for fun and doing it as cheap as possible then this suspension may be what you want to look at.

To Clarify. IF YOU WANT TO BE A SUPER COMPETITIVE DRIFTER AND HAVE ASPIRATIONS TO ONE DAY COMPETE OR U JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST, GET THE GOOD STUFF. IF THIS IS JUST A HOBBY AND YOUR BUDGET MINDED. THEN GIVE THESE COILS A LOOK AT. CAN WE AGREE?

[ericcastro]

Fuck, what a waste of time this thread is.

You cant review something with no other fucking experience with similar products to judge by.

the first time you got laid it was awesome!! regarless of fat chick, ugly, lame fuck, what ever.
Cause you had no basis.
Several years later and a few dozen girls and girlfriends later, now you might be able to actually give a review.

Get it.
Virgins dont give reviews.
weather its coilovers, sex, or anything else.

[WISH ONE]

Powwwwwwwww!!!^^^

[Deviousjet]

Fuck, what a waste of time this thread is.

You cant review something with no other fucking experience with similar products to judge by.

the first time you got laid it was awesome!! regarless of fat chick, ugly, lame fuck, what ever.
Cause you had no basis.
Several years later and a few dozen girls and girlfriends later, now you might be able to actually give a review.

Get it.
Virgins dont give reviews.
weather its coilovers, sex, or anything else.

Lol. Now that you put it that way. :bowrofl:

[Darkvillin]

Fuck, what a waste of time this thread is.

You cant review something with no other fucking experience with similar products to judge by.

the first time you got laid it was awesome!! regarless of fat chick, ugly, lame fuck, what ever.
Cause you had no basis.
Several years later and a few dozen girls and girlfriends later, now you might be able to actually give a review.

Get it.
Virgins dont give reviews.
weather its coilovers, sex, or anything else.

i completely agree with what you are saying, but in all fairness, its easier to get laid than it is to spend $1200 on decent stance coils...at least it is for me. idk about anyone else here. i bought the godspeeds due to a couple people saying they were ok at best. they are my first set of coils so i admit i know nothing on how they are supposed to ride. but i look at them for what they are, my first set of coils. i guess the op should have wrote "good for a first set of coils." thats at least what i would summerize my godspeed's as.

[JurisMyDiction]

i see it all this way... If your car looks like this guys (aka not a lotta money)... then get isis.

Its not like you dont know what they are. Theyre coilover for kids (and old people) that dont have $ for nice coilovers.

Are they NICE - no... or they wouldnt be 650 bucks. Are they better than blown stock stuff - Im sure they are.

You arent going to go from stance or even crappy megans - to these. Why care how they stack up against them? I dont even look at coilovers like these - You just dont go from nice name brand equipment to a budget based part.

There are nice parts (they cost money) and there are inexpensive parts that arent as good. Buy what u can afford.


this was surprisingly well put... except that i could afford higher end coilovers, and maybe one day i will get them, but for now these do the exact job for which i bought them. i just find it hilarious that people can say "this thread was a waste of time" and them immediately click the reply button, and waste MORE time telling everyone how much time they're wasting... completely illogical actions/statements really do numbers on one's credibility. if you don't like my review, go away... i promise i won't cry whether you do, or don't reply.

[Weedm]

I dunno. I just got a set of megan tracks for $450.

[ronmcdon]

I'm kinda on the fence here (not trying to antagonize either side).
It's fairly easy to say the OP is doing something of a layman's review.
He doesn't presume to be offering a comprehensive and/or proffesional review.

I just see it as something to dismiss, but not worth denouncing.

It's something I would dismiss because (as I agree with the critiques),
There's nothing valuable information-wise to me.

I would not denounce the dude.
I do think the guy is making a decent effort to do the best he can.
He is writing about a few simple observations & obviously most of it is subjective.
But then many reviews are just about the subjective side of things.
At least the point he mentions (ride quality, ride comfort, drop, pics taken,) aren't entirely irrelevant.
They're things many other, perhaps more modest, drivers would have some interest in.
Also to his credit, his review is organized & doesn't butcher the language to death.
Hey, it is rare these days.

There also isn't some structured format required by Zilvia for product reviews.
The OP could post "Isis coilvers, they're good" or say shit that's entirely irrelevant.
Think if the sub-forum had a more structured format,
ppl would more aware of given expectations (there obviously is some lvl of that).

If I appear to be too forgiving,
it's because I've been reading too many Yelp reviews lately.
At least ppl here usually review with some semblance of relevant info.
However, MANY of the Zilvia threads have also been 'entertaining' in other eeire ways.

At the same time, yes, this is the internet.
you post anything, you are liable for any criticism back & forth.

[wh0aitznic0]

Fuck, what a waste of time this thread is.

You cant review something with no other fucking experience with similar products to judge by.

the first time you got laid it was awesome!! regarless of fat chick, ugly, lame fuck, what ever.
Cause you had no basis.
Several years later and a few dozen girls and girlfriends later, now you might be able to actually give a review.

Get it.
Virgins dont give reviews.
weather its coilovers, sex, or anything else.


That is EPIC, Castro!!

[mrchomponthis]

Why would someone look at a review of a product they would never buy? whether or not the review sucked, why would you wast time out of your day to comment on something that really doesn't matter to you? I do also agree that the review isn't great, but I am sure to a fanboi who wants to lower their car they might like this review. If the review is that terrible can't a moderator just delete/lock the thread?

[BustedS13]

can't believe this chode took time out of his day to try to help other 240sx owners by giving some insight on a product for which information is otherwise very scarce. what a jerk.
i mean, he doesn't even live in socal.

[ericcastro]

Hey guys

got a review for ya.
Its a new car.

Thing rips.
0-60 will put you in the back of your seat.
handles awesome!
bad gas milage though

Its a Geo metro.




oh, BTW, its the only car I have owned so I have nothing else to base this experience against.



thats why the review is stupid.

did you not read my Virgin comment above?

Im glad dude likes em and all.

[lazysk8er2]

its whatever i mean so many people ask about the isis product and start useless threads like "have u tried their $2 turbo i wonder if its good" maybe this will slow them down from popping up.

and thats ontop of them if they search

[WISH ONE]

Mapenis!!!!!!!!!

[OBEEWON]

Hey guys

got a review for ya.
Its a new car.

Thing rips.
0-60 will put you in the back of your seat.
handles awesome!
bad gas milage though

Its a Geo metro.

Do not disrespect the metro. My boy Smelly has one. You diss the metro = you diss Smelly. His farts smell like race gas and are just as flammable.


oh, BTW, its the only car I have owned so I have nothing else to base this experience against.



thats why the review is stupid.

did you not read my Virgin comment above?

Im glad dude likes em and all.


Do not disrespect the metro. My boy Smelly has one. You diss the metro = you diss Smelly.

His farts smell like race gas and are just as flammable.

[dogg4217]

Some of you are ridiculous.

The dude gave information on his experience with suspension. Basically he has rode in other cars so this is an "AMATEUR" review. Not some magazine review, someone that has had 30 240's with 50 different types of suspension.

So with this knowledge of this thread, if you fall under the category I'm new to 240's, never had suspension before, want some cheap coilovers, daily drive your car, or want something that rides decent then this is a good review.

If you are looking for a detail specs of how the damping handled going 75mph in a corner while the ass end is sideways vs. another coilover doing the exact same driving technique, with the same atmosphere temperature vs road temperature, etc, etc ......then this thread is probably not for you. So why post? To get your post count up so you can be ultra cool on Zilvia?

Personally I wouldn't buy these coils but because I have different preferences. I just wanted to read the thread to see what others thought about these cheaper coilovers. Nothing he said made me change my mind to go buy them but I didn't have to bash his thread about it.

K Thanks.

[T chop]

Don't call this thread a review, call it "I bought Isis coilovers, installed them and took some shitty pictures"

That's your problem, I don't really think people are giving you a hard time about "Isis" coilovers they are just saying that this ISN'T anything close to a review or comparison.

[dogg4217]

Don't call this thread a review, call it "I bought Isis coilovers, installed them and took some shitty pictures"

That's your problem, I don't really think people are giving you a hard time about "Isis" coilovers they are just saying that this ISN'T anything close to a review or comparison.

It's kinda like a 2nd hand review basically. I have a Jeep Wrangler and I read reviews all the times on parts. One in particular is mudtirereview or jeepreview. I can't remember off the top of my head. Anyways I read the tire reviews. They provide a magazine/professional review at the top and then at the bottom the amateur reviews/2nd hand reviews. You get so much mixed thoughts on the same product that it's hard to make a judgement unless you see the product in your face and test it out. I have Boggers on my Jeep. I love them. I like the strength of them, the deep lugs on them, the noise they make. But I don't daily drive my Jeep. Others reviews say they hate them or they suck at this or they are the best at this.

It's all personal preference on a user based forum. The professional/magazine reviews are your best bet to get a accurate comparison to another product and specific numbers of how those products performed.

[JurisMyDiction]

Don't call this thread a review, call it "I bought Isis coilovers, installed them and took some shitty pictures"

That's your problem, I don't really think people are giving you a hard time about "Isis" coilovers they are just saying that this ISN'T anything close to a review or comparison.

to be frank with you... yes it is... at least by definition. but that's not important on zilvia, instead e-penis size is MUCH more important.

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now everyone that wants to argue about how this is not a review can go fuck themselves. if the mods see fit, just to end this MINDLESS debate, they can change the title to "isis coilovers opinion" or "isis coilovers by some guy who bought them and happens to like them" i don't care. i'm honestly going to unsubscribe from my own thread because you guys can't get over the fact thet "boo fuckin hoo, he didn't compare 500 other brands using a coilover dyno" and "his pictures are bad" if you don't like the info just GO AWAY!!!!!! fuck...:duh:

[lazysk8er2]

i told you manbearpig was real

[SoSideways]

Why are people still saying that this was a review?

Yay I put new OEM shocks and springs on my car and they are better than old blown OEM shocks and springs.

OEM shocks and springs are the best ever.

Stick your shiny new coilovers in your pipe and smoke it.











*sigh*

[Deviousjet]

Jurismydiction ignore all the bs. Updated status on your coils? How they riding now?

[ChiSleepyEyes]

i told you manbearpig was real

indeed
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[JurisMyDiction]

Jurismydiction ignore all the bs. Updated status on your coils? How they riding now?

still doing well, i only tke the 240 out very seldom as the single cam has spun bearings, but i did get out the other day to whip some turns and they took it like a champ. no bounce during hard cornering and the tire breaking point was pretty seamless...

[Enjuku Racing]

I personally don't care for these crazy threads, but i thought i would share a little info with you guys.

Patrick V. Goodin Wins round 1 of Street Wise Drift Pro-AM! | Enjuku Racing Blog (http://enjukuracing.com/blog/?p=20)

Patrick Goodin Takes First Place on ISIS Products - ISIS Performance Products - Specializing in high quality products for the sport compact aftermarket (http://www.isisperformance.com/read-news/patrick-goodin-takes-first-place-on-isis-products)

Again - for everyone out there.. THESE ARE ENTRY LEVEL Coilovers. There is no need to compare them to anything high end out there. These are what they are and work great for the money.

If you like them buy them, if you don't I will sell you anything you want !! Its what we do, sell parts !!

thanks

Ken

[iwannaslyde]

bang bang. pow pow.

[kalypso123]

hmm... ok. {msg}

[Commanche]

The pics of the car and coiovers don't work! Please fix them I'm looking to buy these for my s13!

[nightsauce]

^ what the hell guy...have you seen the date on this thread.

[slydin240sx]

The pics of the car and coiovers don't work! Please fix them I'm looking to buy these for my s13!

Holy thread bump newb!

[326power]

http://i44.tinypic.com/t0geuo.jpg

god speed and good luck with these coilovers. Hope you don't die.

[Prove It]

Why are you posting a pic of your isis coilover after you clearly put your car into a wall or something?....

[h2v7]

i heard all bad things but never tried them myself. maybe never will

[DRIFTER-M]

Anybody try the new HR pro series?

They are monotube, cnc brackets, etc. Look nice for the price.

[Hoffman5982]

Anybody try the new HR pro series?

They are monotube, cnc brackets, etc. Look nice for the price.

I was just looking at these for my beater. I'd love some reviews on them.

[Hoffman5982]

Why are you posting a pic of your isis coilover after you clearly put your car into a wall or something?....

How are you getting that from this picture? I could maybe understand if the mounting bracket was ripped off, but these look exactly like a friends coilover after running over a 2x4

[Socal805]

i recently installed my new isis hr pro series coilovers that i got from ace up motorsports.. and just wanna say that they're the bang for the buck . have nothing but good things to say about them.. they go really low for those looking to slam there 240. i daily drive them and have them pretty stiff and have no complains..havent really taken them out to the track but from driving around street corners and braking that rear loose from time to time they feel really good.. would definatly recommend them looking for a decent set of coilovers for a good price..just hit up Ace up Motorsports for any of your 240 needs ..great deals and great customer service

[poundit]

In my opinion they are pretty much the same as megans, cxracing and any other lower priced coilover company. I doubt you would feel a HUGE difference in them until go from them to higher brands such as higher model STANCE, PBM, TEIN, and KW. Ive owned D2 and cxracing and both have felt just about the same. As far as the picture of the broken one goes, nothing man made is perfect but thats not to say some products arent better than others. Im sure you could break a higher end coilover given the right circumstance.

This thread and alot of people posting makes me think of a REAL wheel vs KNOCK off thread.

[maracazzz]

What the fuck is this thread became ? I had a set of hsd on my wrx , amazing coilovers for the price. I'll buy a set of Isis for my 89 coupe, they can't be that bad ...


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[kOOpA]

I've owned and/or driven on several brands of coilovers. BC Racing, Dmax, Parts Shop Max, Tein, etc etc etc, and can say that Isis feel the worst, although I haven't driven on Megan, perhaps it's the same crap.

BC's are a great value for the money, the others are a bit more expensive, and you can feel the difference. Dmax are probably my favorite, and I think you can get them for pretty much the same price as BC's now. They ride as smooth as butter, and still handle really well. PSM coils are more track-oriented, they are not as enjoyable on the road, but my S14 is a laser-guided missile on the track.

Isis, though, honestly feel like the stock, old-ass suspension you'd be taking off the car, but they're..... lower. Big whoop. Spend a few more bucks for something that's worth a damn. I'd be pissed if I paid more than a couple hundred bucks for the ride you get outa them.