Lowest weight achieved on a s13 race car

[dato]

What's the Lowest weight Anyone achieved on a s13 race car? Not stock cars or daily drivers that only have gutted back interiors.

[Ceepo]

How about you try it and find out, why does it matter how light someones car is, 80% of guys drift and weight isnt an issue...

[hassanbakar123]

theirs already a thread it was some s13 fastback with the ass cut off.

[n8RPS13]

Wicked BURN!!!! I understand though. Try to think about how light the S13 is already.........the understand or know that you still want a certain amount of curb weight to be able to have a balanced car... to light and you will not be able to control the car at high speeds to heavy and you will not be as nimble at lower speeds, but will have better control at higher speeds. For instance my friend just bought a track edition NISMO 350Z and hates that it is so much heavier than the S13 he previously owned but loves the solid feel of the car at high speeds .....lets says above 100mph. It is a relevant ? though. I think you need to be more specific about the ? Try
asking what the lightest most succesful S13 (drift or grip) has been. I honestly dont know but would be interested to see who it was. Good luck and hope that I didn't offend you!!:)

How about you try it and find out, why does it matter how light someones car is, 80% of guys drift and weight isnt an issue...

[NismoDriverS13]

I'm guessing that he is looking into making a track or full race car out of a s13.

u need to go search mang! look for s13's that have been built only for race and see the discription of the car. it will tell u what the weight of the car is and how it was achieved.

[dato]

I'm not looking for how to get ur car lighter, I'm basically looking to see what's the lowest weight someones achieve. That's all, prefer a coupe too

[allntrlundrgrnd]

have you tried this website called google?

http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/images/0703_sccp_07z+asm_honda_s2000_and_dent_sport_nissa n_240rs+front_left_view.jpg

http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/images/0703_sccp_09z+asm_honda_s2000_and_dent_sport_nissa n_240rs+rear_left_view.jpg

[NismoDriverS13]

^ holy god i totally did not see this one before!!!

[huffandpuff00]

my coupe is 2340, almost full interior, frp everthing but trunk

[dato]

all-oh sick! did not expect that one haha

[QuickSpoolSR]

How about you try it and find out, why does it matter how light someones car is, 80% of guys drift and weight isnt an issue...

So maybe he wants to know for somthing other then drift. There is nothing wrong with this thread, ya you can google, but do you think everyones set up is on google. Im interested in hearing some examples of how low they got the weight down to, and what they did. So dont be an asshole

[dato]

^^
ditto....

[allntrlundrgrnd]

ya you can google, but do you think everyones set up is on google.

Yes.

240RS Maxi - DSG - DENT Sport Garage (http://www.dentsport.com/shop-cars/240rs-maxi/)

[fckillerbee]

What's the Lowest weight Anyone achieved on a s13 race car? Not stock cars or daily drivers that only have gutted back interiors.

why? do you plan on making a lighter car? cause if not, then this thread is worthless.

[drftmark]

Jesus... so much hate...

This thread is A LOT more related to cars than half of the other threads out there that have to do with trends and all other sorts of bs

from a little bit of searching I found the DSG car is 1926 lbs dry, approx 2100 lbs wet

but that is a hatch and you are looking for a coupe

[KA24DESOneThree]

There have been weight threads before. This is not a new idea. I daily'd my coupe at sub-2300lbs.

Curb weight has nothing to do with stability. Do not derp the noobs.

However, my car won't pass tech for anything other than driver's ed. No cage, etc.

[BlitzRPS13]

My silvia is 2464 lbs.. fully gutted.. no interior really(has cd player and speakers).. cusco 6 point cage.. 2 bride seats.. rear strut bar.. frp front/rear bumpers..frp fenders.. frp sideskirts.

[ericcastro]

Jeeeesus!

SEARCH!!

Start with the GT class cars that run built KA engines.
The real 240sx drivers.
those guys are in a whole nother world, and wouldnt even bother bringing themselves over here.

http://www.sdsefi.com/collin.jpg

"Collin Jackson and Dave Humphrey will be racing their BM&M Nissan 240sx cars in the Grand Touring 3 (GT3) category. These are purpose built, tube frame, racecars with Nissan 240sx fiber glass bodies. The cars have 2.4L, 4 cylinder engines that produce 275 HP"
http://www.bmandm.com/images/news.h2.jpg

http://www.nasport.com/images/NasportThill.gif



RETROSPECTIVE>>IMSA RACING S13S - Speedhunters (http://speedhunters.com/archive/2008/11/21/gallery-gt-gt-imsa-racing-s13s.aspx)

[Sterlz]

^^ those aren't even 240's anymore, those are full tube-chassis cars, so it kinda doesn't count.

I think he's curious about how light an S13 coupe can be while still retaining at least most of the factory unibody.

[xpertsnowcarver]

Depends what regulations you are under.

According to the 2009 SuperGT regulations, vehicles must maintain a minimum weight of no less than 1,100kg (2425lbs). SuperGT regs require the original production chassis between the wheel centers be unmodified.

If no limit, then I'd imagine you can make the chassis weight as light as.... 1400lbs? (Just a guess) But, I'm talking Ti + C everything.

[teamsprock]

here just for a reference since not a lot of info is on this thread so far

89 coupe with s13 sr. Everything gutted except dash,cluster, and stock front two seats.
FMIC, all stock metal panels, no sunroof at all (open whole in the roof), no headlights, just the stock metal covers.. also note I have motorized windows and mirrors

2200lbs low on gas (seem lows to me, but I was on a certified truck scale with 20lb resolution so who knows... not an expert on the subject, just a little suprised to see that low.)

I have since added a six point cage and a little bit of carpet for creature comfort (can't stand bare metal floors) so hopefully soon I can get it back on the scale just to see what it's at now.)

Not sure about s13's but I know Kognition has one of the lightest s14 that is a race car but not as extreme as the examples above with tube frames and missing rear ends.

[ericcastro]

^^ those aren't even 240's anymore, those are full tube-chassis cars, so it kinda doesn't count.

I think he's curious about how light an S13 coupe can be while still retaining at least most of the factory unibody.

How are those not 240's?
Shit, they run KA engines.

You understand that the majority of Pro level drift vehicles are tube framed to certain extents.

Where do you want to draw the line then?

[sincity_sil80]

lol at your sig^^

[dato]

Every one saying to search ! Common man.. It's not any different than thread how low if your car?,kouki-180sx-aero-thread, or weirdestrhing u found on ur 240? But anyhow, I'm building. Drift car, but just want to see the lowest weight or average weight. And 240sx That the normal tuner builds to go drift and so on

[ericcastro]

Every one saying to search ! Common man.. It's not any different than thread how low if your car?,kouki-180sx-aero-thread, or weirdestrhing u found on ur 240? But anyhow, I'm building. Drift car, but just want to see the lowest weight or average weight. And 240sx That the normal tuner builds to go drift and so on

And If you SERACHED, you would have found numerous weight reduction threads.
But you opened a new one.

there is one very popular weirdest thing thread that is numerous pages and post long.
There is one How Low is your daily thread with numerous pages.
If someone opened a new "weirdest" or "how low" thread, they would be locked right away.

you see what we are saying?
you should have used this
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/297481-small-questions-thread-use-insted-making-new-threads.html

[jim1234664]

And If you SERACHED, you would have found numerous weight reduction threads.
But you opened a new one.

there is one very popular weirdest thing thread that is numerous pages and post long.
There is one How Low is your daily thread with numerous pages.
If someone opened a new "weirdest" or "how low" thread, they would be locked right away.

you see what we are saying?
you should have used this
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/297481-small-questions-thread-use-insted-making-new-threads.html

Seriously dude? get off your high horse.

This guy wants to know how heavy a super gutted s13 coupe that the average person would be building on here would weigh.

He doesnt want to know about some unlimited budget shop built tube frame single piece fiberglass body car that isnt even street legal and doesn't have a nissan chassis or body panels.

and of course those guys arent on here, they are race car drivers. not car builders and not 240 enthusiasts.

and no, there has never been a thread quite like this and he doesnt want to look at a thread that says the sound deadening weighs 20.6 pounds and the ac compressor bracket weighs 4.7 pounds.

stop trying to choke off half the threads you look at to tell someone to search. I dont know if you want to stroke your ego or what, but this guy isnt asking what parts to use for a 5 lug swap. This is a pretty unique question



Honorable mention to these guys for not being assholes and trying to actually help the OP: (I know, Crazy concept for you to understand)



my coupe is 2340, almost full interior, frp everthing but trunk

Jesus... so much hate...

This thread is A LOT more related to cars than half of the other threads out there that have to do with trends and all other sorts of bs

from a little bit of searching I found the DSG car is 1926 lbs dry, approx 2100 lbs wet

but that is a hatch and you are looking for a coupe

There have been weight threads before. This is not a new idea. I daily'd my coupe at sub-2300lbs.

Curb weight has nothing to do with stability. Do not derp the noobs.

However, my car won't pass tech for anything other than driver's ed. No cage, etc.

My silvia is 2464 lbs.. fully gutted.. no interior really(has cd player and speakers).. cusco 6 point cage.. 2 bride seats.. rear strut bar.. frp front/rear bumpers..frp fenders.. frp sideskirts.

here just for a reference since not a lot of info is on this thread so far

89 coupe with s13 sr. Everything gutted except dash,cluster, and stock front two seats.
FMIC, all stock metal panels, no sunroof at all (open whole in the roof), no headlights, just the stock metal covers.. also note I have motorized windows and mirrors

2200lbs low on gas (seem lows to me, but I was on a certified truck scale with 20lb resolution so who knows... not an expert on the subject, just a little suprised to see that low.)

I have since added a six point cage and a little bit of carpet for creature comfort (can't stand bare metal floors) so hopefully soon I can get it back on the scale just to see what it's at now.)

Not sure about s13's but I know Kognition has one of the lightest s14 that is a race car but not as extreme as the examples above with tube frames and missing rear ends.

[fckillerbee]

^^^^^
where did he put " i want to build a car within these specs" "how light can I make it"

I'm sorry....I saw nothing. only thing I saw was....

what is the lightest 240. Well that has been found, his answer is there. You my friend need to read the whole thread!

[fckillerbee]

What's the Lowest weight Anyone achieved on a s13 race car? Not stock cars or daily drivers that only have gutted back interiors.

this is what I read....GTFO!!!!

[Soup Nazi]

What's the Lowest weight Anyone achieved on a s13 race car?

Seriously dude? get off your high horse.

This guy wants to know how heavy a super gutted s13 coupe that the average person would be building

You're a Moron. Look at his question.

Average people just don't build race cars everyday.

[ericcastro]

and no, there has never been a thread quite like this and he doesnt want to look at a thread that says the sound deadening weighs 20.6 pounds and the ac compressor bracket weighs 4.7 pounds.

This is a pretty unique question


yeah, you really are being a tool.

Because if the dude wants to know the lightest S13 shell, we have about 1000 of those threads, going into such specifics on how to rewire your car and loose 40lbs of wire weight and anything else.

ITS ALL THERE, he does need to search.
Are you really going to try and say this is a unique question??

guy asked the lightest 240, we replied to an extremely vague question. next time we will mind read through the internet though.


This guy wants to know how heavy a super gutted s13 coupe that the average person would be building on here would weigh.

He doesnt want to know about some unlimited budget shop built tube frame single piece fiberglass body car that isnt even street legal and doesn't have a nissan chassis or body panels.

BTW dipshit, read the tittle.
"Lowest weight achieved on a s13 race car "

[fckillerbee]

yeah, you really are being a tool.

Because if the dude wants to know the lightest S13 shell, we have about 1000 of those threads, going into such specifics on how to rewire your car and loose 40lbs of wire weight and anything else.

ITS ALL THERE, he does need to search.
Are you really going to try and say this is a unique question??

guy asked the lightest 240, we replied to an extremely vague question. next time we will mind read through the internet though.


BTW dipshit, read the tittle.
"Lowest weight achieved on a s13 race car "




amazing what a little reading will do....you should see an apology for being called an asshat on a horse...lol...

[ericcastro]

naw, its cool.
Prolly should of refrained from saying DipShit, but jeez, ya know, lol.

I will be this guy if I gots too, lol

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3512/4070688539_50040f3a66_o.jpg

[fckillerbee]

lmao...but you are that guy...just with a bowler hat...if that is correct.

[dato]

MOD'S PlEASE CLOSE THREAD, did not think it was gonna go to shit like this

[UNITEDMASTER]

HAHAHAHAHA this is so funny, the attitude of some folks. Anyhow Im at 2250 wet with driver,full cage & SR,for what its worth.

[DataXUnknown]

I started lmao when I read "it's some hatch with it's ass cut off" and then I scolled down and litterally saw just that!!!

I made my car most lightweight race car, it got stripped, therefore weighing like nothing, just the chassis skeleton by itself, therefore I win. Oh and the police still called it a race car, so it counts!

[Sterlz]

How are those not 240's?
Shit, they run KA engines.

You understand that the majority of Pro level drift vehicles are tube framed to certain extents.

Where do you want to draw the line then?


True but they retain most of the stock unibody, and besides he was asking about race cars, not drift cars. Those IMSA GTP cars run KA's, and look like 240's but, they utilize those pseudo fiberglass exterior panels to make em look the part.

Idk I guess it's just my opinion, I guess I'd draw the line between unibody (or at least most of it) and full tube chassis with a fiberglass look-alike body. Unless the car started life as a 240 but then that's a whole nother complication lol.

[SuicidnS13]

Tube chassis or not its still based around a 240's body lines, wheel base and so on. This thread is so full of mis-information it hurts my stomach to even read it, especially the comment about weight = stability...tell that to forumula 1 car designers. Your car can get as light as you can afford it too... Pretty simple....

[Matej]

Does anyone know what the highest achieved weight of an S13 is?

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/kvryhof/16751103+w450+h338+cr0+re1+ar1/1991-nissan-240sx-7.jpg

what ever this weighs.

[fckillerbee]

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/kvryhof/16751103+w450+h338+cr0+re1+ar1/1991-nissan-240sx-7.jpg

what ever this weighs.


this is sooo missing some cheap aero and a two tone painjob!

[fckillerbee]

IN DESPERATION TO SAVE THIS THREAD...i would find this info more useful.

Nissan 240SX Performance Modification/Weight Reduction - Wikibooks, collection of open-content textbooks (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification/Weight_Reduction)

I hope this answeres all the dumb questions...anything more, should be talking about where to cut into your car to lighten it up. As well as anyone else contributing, should mention how much weight they save using "x".

[ericcastro]

the whole point is this thread should have never been started as this has been answered over and over a million different ways on this site.

[fckillerbee]

:stupid:the whole point is this thread should have never been started as this has been answered over and over a million different ways on this site.

eric those are lies...cause you and I both know people with under 200 post count and under the age of 20 know exactly what they are doing! We are old and don't know how to use computers remember...lol

[hOngsterr]

my cars 2629 lbs w/o me, light huh :dogg:

i guess i win lol

[maplejesse]

MOD'S PlEASE CLOSE THREAD, did not think it was gonna go to shit like this

wow you seriously started a thread on zilvia and expected.. civil responses?

[Matej]

Bump.

Cutting off the rear is the boy racer thing to do, if weight is to be lost.


http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/1289-1/boyracer01.jpg
http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/1292-1/boyracer02.jpg
http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/1295-1/boyracer03.jpg
http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/1298-1/boyracer04.jpg

[Xbroke_kidX]

All the new people just dont get Zilvia.
Wah Wah why wont you answer my question that has nothing to do with what im doing on my car.

Assholes are right.

Edit**
Cut rear bumpers look awesome.

[DALAZ_68]

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/kvryhof/16751103+w450+h338+cr0+re1+ar1/1991-nissan-240sx-7.jpg

what ever this weighs.

this...cannot be real...:eek2:

:stupid:

eric those are lies...cause you and I both know people with under 200 post count and under the age of 20 know exactly what they are doing! We are old and don't know how to use computers remember...lol

so true... :hahano:

[svensko]

I want to thank everyone in this thread for reminding me why I rarely frequent Zilvia. :naw:

[sr20drifter1]

HAHAHAHAHA this is so funny, the attitude of some folks. Anyhow Im at 2250 wet with driver,full cage & SR,for what its worth.
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[Matej]

The best thing about those cars is that they have license plates/license plate lights.

[BustedS13]

girly girl racing <3

[ZenkiCam]

you know what i find funny? all the people that are dicks in this thread are from california. whats up with you people out there. holy shit you guys are assholes. its a forum chill the fuck out.

[PoorMans180SX]

you know what i find funny? all the people that are dicks in this thread are from california. whats up with you people out there. holy shit you guys are assholes. its a forum chill the fuck out.

Wrong. We just don't like people wasting bandwidth (and slowing the forum) with stupid threads where they ask questions that have been answered 1293719283719 times.

Use the search button (or even google, what a revelation!) or you will be treated like the newb you are.

Everyone who has been here for any length of time has most likely gone through it at some point. Either you'll realize your mistake or you will move on.

[fckillerbee]

you know what i find funny? all the people that are dicks in this thread are from california. whats up with you people out there. holy shit you guys are assholes. its a forum chill the fuck out.

because CALIFORNIA is where everything is made...you don't see more than 1 formula d track in atlanta do you?

It just so happens to be that in CALIFORNIA, if you wanted to race every weekend, with a different venue, you can.

WE CALIFORNIANS are tired of stupid people...that ask stupid questions. It's bad enough that we have to drive on the freeway in rush hour traffic with people that can't even fucking merge.

So understand, "ZILVIA" tends to have more knowledgeable 240 owners than any other forum that "I" have been on. And everything that has been discussed in the "90's" has already been talked about. So if you can, bring me something as a "build" that hasn't been done, and then you'll see non asshats.

Untill then, stop wasting our time bitching about how we are assholes...


...only mommy cares when you cry. This Forum is for grown ups.

[svensko]

It just so happens to be that in CALIFORNIA, if you wanted to race every weekend, with a different venue, you can.



Assuming one's swapped car isn't confiscated by the cops. :rofl:

[fckillerbee]

Assuming one's swapped car isn't confiscated by the cops. :rofl:

I run stock KA all day! lol....cops only hassle me cause I have no muffler!

and the paint is blue! lol

[dato]

ok since people seem not to read the actual question 'the lowest weight achieve in a race car" to some its classified as a full track car to some its a daily driver which is gutted, many different opinions, any car RACE CAR or not depending on our view of what is a race car really is. since people like bashing with all these threads exist and blah blah blah.
lets do some analysis then

i go to advance search i search only tittles word entered: WEIGHT
topics which might seem relevant

some weight but only a small amount of people answered actual weight
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/263276-nissan-240sx-weight.html

2
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/227256-weight-reduction-ideas.html
3
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/120014-weight-reduction-thread.html
4
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/86943-weight-reduction.html

u can see that most threads that pop out are ones asking such questions has what do i need to do? remove what? carbon fiber? if i remove this how much weight? motor weight ect.
I ask what is the lowest weight of a race car, some might believe we have a race car so post some actual weight number, I NEVER ASKED WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO LOWER MY WEIGHT, and there are a abundant amount of threads on that! and to everyone saying there are so many threADS on actual race car weights show me? prove me wrong and prove that u are not ignorant.

[racepar1]

Ok, first off, the question is much too vague to answer. You could probably make the car weigh 1500lbs wet with enough cubic dollars. As a general rule anything under 2500lbs (wet) is "good". The lowest that I have heard of is the DSG car, but I am certain that you can get lighter with millions of dollars to spend.

Second, if you (not necessarily the OP) don't like zilvia then don't let the door hit you on your ass on the way out. This is a longstanding community of 240sx enthusiasts and we do not take kindly to holding your precious little hands. There are MULTIPLE threads out there on this EXACT same topic with this EXACT same answer. A simple search would have yeilded the same results with no drama. I have no sympathy for noob idiots that cannot use the search function.

EDIT: If you actually take the time to read those threads that supposedly don't tell you what you want to know then you would find your answer...

[fckillerbee]

ok since people seem not to read the actual question 'the lowest weight achieve in a race car" to some its classified as a full track car to some its a daily driver which is gutted, many different opinions, any car RACE CAR or not depending on our view of what is a race car really is. since people like bashing with all these threads exist and blah blah blah.
lets do some analysis then

i go to advance search i search only tittles word entered: WEIGHT
topics which might seem relevant

some weight but only a small amount of people answered actual weight
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/263276-nissan-240sx-weight.html

2
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/227256-weight-reduction-ideas.html
3
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/120014-weight-reduction-thread.html
4
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/86943-weight-reduction.html

u can see that most threads that pop out are ones asking such questions has what do i need to do? remove what? carbon fiber? if i remove this how much weight? motor weight ect.
I ask what is the lowest weight of a race car, some might believe we have a race car so post some actual weight number, I NEVER ASKED WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO LOWER MY WEIGHT, and there are a abundant amount of threads on that! and to everyone saying there are so many threADS on actual race car weights show me? prove me wrong and prove that u are not ignorant.


You fucking irritate me!!!!

search title only


WEIGHT REDUCTION

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/241999-what-does-your-car-weigh.html

[fckillerbee]

There is a whole page dedicated to your ignorance in searching.

weight could be fat people, fat cars, rims, how much something weighs...etc. Use your brain.

you won't find specific numbers in a "build" thread. You might find those numbers in a GT class, or maybe a SCCA class.

cmon man...you asked what is the lowest weight in a race car. Be more specific, what to you is a race car, and why do you need that info? Cause you just want to know what is possible? What is a race car? What kind of reduction are you looking for? BE MORE SPECIFIC!!!! You can't be spoon fed if we don't know what you want!

[ZenkiCam]

because CALIFORNIA is where everything is made...you don't see more than 1 formula d track in atlanta do you?

It just so happens to be that in CALIFORNIA, if you wanted to race every weekend, with a different venue, you can.

WE CALIFORNIANS are tired of stupid people...that ask stupid questions. It's bad enough that we have to drive on the freeway in rush hour traffic with people that can't even fucking merge.

So understand, "ZILVIA" tends to have more knowledgeable 240 owners than any other forum that "I" have been on. And everything that has been discussed in the "90's" has already been talked about. So if you can, bring me something as a "build" that hasn't been done, and then you'll see non asshats.

Untill then, stop wasting our time bitching about how we are assholes...


...only mommy cares when you cry. This Forum is for grown ups.

Atlanta is the home of formula D dumbass. we can still daily drive our rb's and sr's here so suck on that. and as for FD tracks, actually there are potentially 2 more that could be added to the circuit. Gresham Motorsports park, and Atlanta motorsports park, when its completed in a few years. you CALIFORNIANS need to get the dick out of your ass. BRAH. HELLAFLUSH/SILLIEST y0!

[fckillerbee]

Atlanta is the home of formula D dumbass. we can still daily drive our rb's and sr's here so suck on that. and as for FD tracks, actually there are potentially 2 more that could be added to the circuit. Gresham Motorsports park, and Atlanta motorsports park, when its completed in a few years. you CALIFORNIANS need to get the dick out of your ass. BRAH. HELLAFLUSH/SILLIEST y0!

BRO...learn how to read. I said there "aren't more than 1"...and we potentially have exponential number of tracks...whats your point?

good way to 1 up california by making yourself look dumb.

And formula D might have started in Atlanta, but California seems to have all the drivers, sponsors, etc.....

stop getting so butt hurt, you can keep the dick.

[racepar1]

Atlanta is the home of formula D dumbass. we can still daily drive our rb's and sr's here so suck on that. and as for FD tracks, actually there are potentially 2 more that could be added to the circuit. Gresham Motorsports park, and Atlanta motorsports park, when its completed in a few years. you CALIFORNIANS need to get the dick out of your ass. BRAH. HELLAFLUSH/SILLIEST y0!

LOL! Ya, Formula D is REALLY impressive. GO YOU!!!

Blah, blah, blah; we can daily our SR's; blah, blah, blah...

WELL, here in cali we can buy actual nice cars to daily and save the 240buckets for the track...

[Xbroke_kidX]

WELL, here in cali we can buy actual nice cars to daily and save the 240buckets for the track...
Just thought that needed to be here twice. But I guess a rust bucket out of state car would help with his weight problems? Less metal less weight.

Formula D suck a dick.