Steering lock!

[nieko]

Alright sooo had an event yesterday again, when i would get lots of angle my steering would lock, like i couldnt turn infor a few seconds, it was really lame.

Im pretty slammed, i ahve SPL tie rod ends.

Not sure why it is doing this, could it be because i corrected the horrible tie rod angle, but the control arms and tension rods are still at a very horrible angle?

thoughts?

Shit got real scary sometimes tandeming when i couldnt turn back in lol

[fliprayzin240sx]

Maybe the wheels bottoming out inside your wheel well causing it to lock?

[karl wasabi]

You need wheel tubs!

I was having a similar issue yesterday too, and I think it was caused by the tires rubbing the fenders.

[FaLKoN240]

Sounds like your arms are binding.

Like when you go full lock, does it feel like the wheels FLOP into the locking position where it's hard to pull it out?

I forget how I fixed this, but I know what you're talking about.

[nieko]

yes!! exactly what you said Falkon, does it when i go into reverse somtimes.

no karl dont need tubs.

ive banged the world out of my inner fenders and everything.

then painted them and no new rub marks...

i think it has something to do with me correcting my tie rod geometry but nothing else....

its really lame though

[yokotavia]

do you have power steering?

if not then thats your problem.

and if you do, try playing around with castor adjustments

[LayNLow]

do you have power steering?

if not then thats your problem.

and if you do, try playing around with castor adjustments

Getting stuck at full lock with no p/s fucking BLOWS! I would know :cry:
Stupid stock ass high pressure lines.

[Tearlessj]

Getting stuck at full lock with no p/s fucking BLOWS! I would know :cry:
Stupid stock ass high pressure lines.
^^^ Has had the worst luck with power steering.

[LayNLow]

At least I wasnt the only one with p/s problems yesterday.

[nieko]

i HAVE powersteering and a cooler, its wonderful no problems with steering... and i love my cars caster, how it feels.

fml.

[!Zar!]

You fix that problem by adjusting caster.

[nieko]

I am running 6.5 caster right now.

it feels exactly how i want it to feel....

i think it might have to do with all my geometry and shit?

i would rather not adjust the caster.

[Hashiriya415]

Imagine a straight line starting with the point were your inner tie rod is screwed on the rack, and 2nd point is where your ball-joint is, now the 3rd point is your outer tie rod joint/bushing. Jack up your car, turn full lock and watch from bottom, are all 3 making 1 line. I don't know if there is a name for this but with the extra angle spacer or whatever you use, can give you this problem. The distance from your the ball-joint and the outer tie rod joint is your steering leverage that makes steering possible. The closer you place the outer tie rod joint to the ball-joint the more pressure will be required to turn the wheel.

[nieko]

well lets just say my tie rod ends have started notching my control arm from full lock.

lolol

so does this mean im getting too much angle for stock arms? or something?

[yokotavia]

people use stock arms with knuckles...and even with just tie rod spacers

maybe you should try centering your rack.

[Hashiriya415]

if you have no spacer or knuckle mod then you should not run into this issue.
You can also raise the car, put a jack under each tire that turns, raise up the jacks and turn the wheel and try and see what happens. Try to make sure the jack has a center piece that can turn. You can also disconnect the tie rod joint and turn

[FaLKoN240]

How do you have the tie rods ends adjusted? For maximum bumpsteer correction?

[nieko]

Ok to answer everyones questions.

I have tie rod spacers.

SPL Inner tie rods, and outter tie rods.

PSM Tension rods.

i do have all the spacers in on the outer ends.

[CoryS]

you know what your problem is sir? you aren't legit. hahaha just kidding you are super legit-o! when do i get to see your car??

[FaLKoN240]

Ok to answer everyones questions.

I have tie rod spacers.

SPL Inner tie rods, and outter tie rods.

PSM Tension rods.

i do have all the spacers in on the outer ends.

You shouldn't be running all of the outer spacers, you're going to destroy the shank on the outer rod.

When you start putting all the spacers on with all the stock arms you also start applying hundreds of pounds of force on the shank that shouldn't be there.

SPL shit is legit, but not designed to be used that way.

When you read the install guide from SPL it tells you not to use all the spacers unless you have the LCAs to correct the geometry.

Try removing the two disc spacers and getting the car realigned to see if that fixes your problem.

Really, bumpsteer adjustment in these cars is over-rated.

[koukimatt]

Really, bumpsteer adjustment in these cars is over-rated.

Do you mean that using the SPL outer tie rod ends with the spacers won't really help bumpsteer? I just bought a set of those, along with Z32 inner tie rods...

I am having trouble installing the inners... I pulled the boot out of the way and folded back the tabs on the locking plate, but I can't loosen the stock inner tie rod. I'm using a medium-big crescent wrench with a 12" handle, slipped over the square part of the inner rod where it connects to the steering rack. I know the inner rod is supposed to turn counter clockwise. I'm pulling very hard, bracing myself against part of the chassis... but the stock inner rod isn't budging; I'm just making the rack twist a little in its bushings. I'm afraid I'm going to break something inside the rack. Am I doing something wrong? Do I need a different tool? Or do I just need to pull harder on the wrench?

[Hashiriya415]

Yes, you will break the rack, you probably already have create damage to the rack by now, i'm 90% sure you have. You need to put a wrench also on the rack itself, then the 2nd wrench on the inner rod, you can also use heat like propane to heat it up.

[fcdrifter20]

had the same problem with on of m cars a couple years back and i coulnt figure it out. also my rack was leaking so i decided to change it. after i changed it the locking problem went away. so i guess in my case it was my rack and pinion.

maybe that whats wrong with yours... but that just a thought, dont hold me to it

[nieko]

its my caster.

i go over center and it locks...

[!Zar!]

That's what I said.

[nieko]

but i am running +7...

i think its my caster + my SPL shit...

wtf can i do to fix it?

driftwerks tie rod offset things?