changing the starter

[240sx1234]

alright i guess i could search but im kind of in a hurry to get to work and just wanted to post to see if i could get some replys,but my 95 240sx SE want start and its not even turning over,battery is new and alternator doesnt seem bad because i roll started and everything was fine,but any tips and hints on changing the starter would be greatly appreciated

[jspaeth]

alright i guess i could search but im kind of in a hurry to get to work and just wanted to post to see if i could get some replys,but my 95 240sx SE want start and its not even turning over,battery is new and alternator doesnt seem bad because i roll started and everything was fine,but any tips and hints on changing the starter would be greatly appreciated


2 bolts, really easy.

disconnect batter, disconnect wiring to starter. take two bolts out, pull it out, put new one in.

It should take like 5 minutes once you get the car up.

[Tom25666]

yep, really straight forward. hit the bolts with wd40 and you should be good to go

[worangejuice]

no, no..you're welcome ;)
my own write-up on starter removal (http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/131702-starter-removal.html)

[jspaeth]

no, no..you're welcome ;)
my own write-up on starter removal (http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/131702-starter-removal.html)


With all due respect, removing a starter hardly requires a 'write-up'.

What's next, the "front left wheel removal" write-up?

[240sx1234]

When i put the bolts on do I need to torque them
down or just as tight as I can?

[Slidin240Wayz]

When i put the bolts on do I need to torque them
down or just as tight as I can?

It's very good practice to follow the torque specs on all the bolts on your car.

[240sx1234]

Do any of you know the torque specs for the starter bolts and about how much is a torque wrench?

[93nismo]

i don't know what the specs are. but u can get the wrench at sears for probably like 40$. there kinda expensive but there awesome:] look for one on the sears website

[drift_maniac]

just hand tightened it to your comfort. Its 2 bolts, it should take you more than 30 minutes for the whole process if you know what your doing.

[R33E8]

Lol don't strip the threads in the starter...

It honestly took me like half an hour after unbolting it to actually get it out.. It kept on getting stuck at weird angles and what not.. Such a pain in the ass..

[240sx1234]

So your saying just leave the bolts hand tight?

[jspaeth]

I'm not trying to be a douche lord, but if you aren't sure what is a reasonable level of tightness for these kinds of bolts, you may want to have someone come help you.

It is metal on metal, so put some anti-seize on there if it is tough to tighten.

It should go from loose to TIGHT very quickly, because it is metal on metal.

If you are using a ratchet that is like 8 inches from handle to head, then pull down with something like 40-50 lbs of force and that should be perfectly fine.

[ryguy]

So your saying just leave the bolts hand tight?

Jesus christ no, they need to be torqued.

I don't have my FSM with me at work, but from searching around other cars specs, 30-40 ft lbs seems to be average. Hopefully somebody can chime in with our specific spec.

[jspaeth]

Jesus christ no, they need to be torqued.

I don't have my FSM with me at work, but from searching around other cars specs, 30-40 ft lbs seems to be average. Hopefully somebody can chime in with our specific spec.


LOL.....hand tight maybe as in hand tight with the ratchet....like just snug them in there and apply a little bit (maybe like 50% of your strength) of force to make them tight.

You can snap/strip them if you go buckwild, but you have to really have no clue what you are doing to do that.

[Slidin240Wayz]

Funny story

When I started working on my first 240, I read 40 for the valve cover bolts.

I set my torque wrench to 40 and whatya know , it strips the head.

Woops.

Come to find out there is a difference between ft/lbs of torque and inch/lbs

DOH!

ps I used pep boys $20 pieces for years on all my cars.

[jspaeth]

Funny story

When I started working on my first 240, I read 40 for the valve cover bolts.

I set my torque wrench to 40 and whatya know , it strips the head.

Woops.

Come to find out there is a difference between ft/lbs of torque and inch/lbs

DOH!

ps I used pep boys $20 pieces for years on all my cars.


hahah that's a bitch but it least it was just the valve cover.

I was so grateful to be able to borrow my friend's in-lb tq wrench when I was putting my head together.

[R33E8]

Funny story

When I started working on my first 240, I read 40 for the valve cover bolts.

I set my torque wrench to 40 and whatya know , it strips the head.

Woops.

Come to find out there is a difference between ft/lbs of torque and inch/lbs

DOH!

ps I used pep boys $20 pieces for years on all my cars.

I read 150 ft/lb's for the flywheel bolts instead of 150Nm... :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

The entire rebuild was going PERFECT until that point..

[dawagarage]

i don't know what the specs are. but u can get the wrench at sears for probably like 40$. there kinda expensive but there awesome:] look for one on the sears website

like previously stated, you can acquire Tq wrenches for cheaper than $40.
the 2 common types are 'click' type & 'dial' type. click types are more expensive whereas the dial/needle types are cheaper. you can acquire one for $20.
-disadvantages of the click types, besides being more pricey, is that the internals are more prone to damage if dropped a few times, thus providing an inaccurate reading. accidentally dropping tools happens. the dial/needle types can take droppings. click types also are also weird in that they the first few readings are incorrect sometimes. @ work we are required to exercise the click tq wrenches 6 times @ 60% before we can use them.
-pay attention to what your tq spec is! & use the correct wrench
1 ft lb tq (obviously) = 12 in lb tq
you dont want to apply 12 ft lbs of tq on something that requires 12 in lb. it sounds silly but this is a common mistake! ppl often dont pay attention to detail

[projectRDM]

So your saying just leave the bolts hand tight?

No. Just use zipties. You'll be fine. If you're that fucking stupid there's no reason to assist you any further.

[markapple0507]

Haha I like your thinking ^^^^^^

Its pretty much just a simple job was as with everything else in this world, if you don't take the basic precautions that come with it, a very small job could become a very big one lol

[miklos]

How much torque can you get with an air wrench?

[mxexux]

^^^that is a very vague question.....

[shinobis13hb]

this is juist getting stupid hes is at work problly by now hahahaha