View Full Version : Fresh KA-T ( WHITE SMOKE / BOG ) help
240cracker
02-07-2010, 01:02 PM
I just put a ka-t kit on my car and at first i just drove around the parking lot at cruising speed to make sure everything was good. Then i started to go faster and i hit full boost. Did a couple donuts/burnouts and it ran perfect!!! After that i parked it till the next day and when i start it now its super boggy and i have a lot of white smoke. I figured exhaust or boost leak? i retightened everything and nothing was really that loose to make it that bad.
what do u think? I asume everything was installed the right way concidering it ran perfect for that short time. And i dont think its the engine itself cuz i dont hear any noises comming from there...
any help would be great
thanks
-steven
slothonaleash
02-07-2010, 01:05 PM
hmm. you might have burnt up a turbo seal
killbillsnj
02-07-2010, 01:58 PM
possibly a head gasket
do a compression test
maybe acrding on your set up you dont have a restricter in your line
240cracker
02-07-2010, 02:30 PM
hmm. you might have burnt up a turbo seal
is that from being loose or what? i mean its a brand new kit not used... i didnt even put a mile on it
possibly a head gasket
do a compression test
maybe acrding on your set up you dont have a restricter in your line
ya if i dont figure it out by tuesday ill have to take it somewhere and get it tested. the ka is low miles (90k) so idk if it would be the head gasket. i hope not...
undesiredshoe
02-07-2010, 02:37 PM
Do you even have a tune?
240cracker
02-07-2010, 02:46 PM
Do you even have a tune?
the set up is ment to run on stock maf ecu and injectors. But I have a upgraded fuel pump sr injectors and afc. i will have it tuned once it runs ok again.
The tune isn't the problem. If anything it would be running a little rich not lean.
EDacIouSX
02-07-2010, 02:48 PM
Do you even have a tune?
i'll bet you one blown ka-t that it doesn't have a tune lol.
hawk240drifter
02-07-2010, 02:52 PM
you need to give the turbo time to break in and the seals to seat, and from the sound of it, you didnt.
!Zar!
02-07-2010, 03:05 PM
the set up is ment to run on stock maf ecu and injectors. But I have a upgraded fuel pump and SR injectors. I'm going to I get a afc and have it tuned once it runs ok again.
The tune isn't the problem. If anything it would be running a little rich not lean.
lol what? How is the ecu supposed to regulate the required fuel?
How much are you boosting?
Sounds like you blew a oil ringland on your piston/s.
Have fun.
FaLKoN240
02-07-2010, 03:09 PM
Yay, more ghetto KA-T set ups.
Do it right, or don't do it at all.
No stock ECU can compensate for a new mod that is changing the amount of air fuel and ratios you're changing by installing a turbo.
clark
02-07-2010, 03:28 PM
that's what you get after doing donuts on a NA engine that just became turbo. you kinda wanna baby it for a while. it's just common sense.
240cracker
02-07-2010, 03:54 PM
that's what you get after doing donuts on a NA engine that just became turbo. you kinda wanna baby it for a while. it's just common sense.
How is that helping at all? If u don't have anything helpfull to say don't even post. Plenty of people are running the same ka t set up all stock everything with no problems. It prolly wouldn't last long like that which is why I have a fuel pump injectors and afc.
Some of your post have been helpfull so thx to u that did. I think I know what to do and I'll let u know how it turns out.
HPballer76
02-07-2010, 04:35 PM
it would probably help if you posted up your entire set up..
!Zar!
02-07-2010, 05:28 PM
How is that helping at all? If u don't have anything helpfull to say don't even post. Plenty of people are running the same ka t set up all stock everything with no problems. It prolly wouldn't last long like that which is why I have a fuel pump injectors and afc.
Some of your post have been helpfull so thx to u that did. I think I know what to do and I'll let u know how it turns out.
So you have an AFC? Was it actually tuned?
It still sounds like your ghetto engine management setup is what killed your engine.
I'm almost sure it is your ringlands like I said prior.
UsJdmTUner
02-07-2010, 05:40 PM
check for compression, could be either headgasket or ringlands for sure...
orion::S14
02-07-2010, 05:41 PM
I'm almost sure it is your ringlands like I said prior.
Agreed.
If you put on a turbo, and hammered on it WITHOUT touching the timing (no matter how rich the fuel might be)...then you detonated, and cracked a ringland.
Timing the IMPORTANT part of tuning, not fuel.
Whoever told you the kit was for a stock ECU/injectors...is an idiot. There is NO turbo you can put on stock injectors that will not max them out immediately. I understand that you upgraded your injectors and such...but again, that's not considered "tuned".
Sorry dude, you'll be needing a rebuild.
- Brian
240sxvaj
02-07-2010, 05:58 PM
the OP have over 1,000 post and still dont know what hes doing lol!
boske
02-07-2010, 06:07 PM
the OP have over 1,000 post and still dont know what hes doing lol!
This sounds more like a first post than 1053rd.
!Zar!
02-07-2010, 06:56 PM
Post count doesn't equal knowledge.
sincity_sil80
02-07-2010, 07:28 PM
^^thank you.. my thoughts exactly
roboticnissan
02-07-2010, 08:17 PM
Post count doesn't equal knowledge.
Exactly you got over 9k and you can't tell the difference between an asshole and an elbow
roboticnissan
02-07-2010, 08:19 PM
White smoke is coolant right? So head gasket prolly
S13 curtis
02-07-2010, 08:21 PM
lol @ turbo kit ready to go with out tuning.
check for compression if your lucky its only a head gasket which is still a PITA.
icedsole
02-07-2010, 08:23 PM
pretty sure you blew something in your engine. mine did the same thing, and i just pulled mine and got a sr.
any sort of KAT with no stand alone or way to control timing, is sketchy.
the slightest bit of detonation will ruin your KAT dreams, which i guess is what happened since you didnt really have it tuned or anything.
go search on KAT org, a lot of your questions can be answered there.
edit: most of this has already been said so yeah.
drift_maniac
02-07-2010, 08:28 PM
HG. my friend has the same problem, its just shut down after his dad took it out for a beating after we just put on his new clutch and no tune.
You shoulda known better bro. Now you might have a bigger problem. hopefully you didnt melt or deformed any internals.
!Zar!
02-07-2010, 08:30 PM
Exactly you got over 9k and you can't tell the difference between an asshole and an elbow
What the fuck are you talking about?
undesiredshoe
02-07-2010, 09:40 PM
the set up is ment to run on stock maf ecu and injectors. But I have a upgraded fuel pump sr injectors and afc. i will have it tuned once it runs ok again.
The tune isn't the problem. If anything it would be running a little rich not lean.
The tune or shall I say lack thereof, is the problem sir. The end.
EDT007
02-08-2010, 07:10 AM
It MAY be an internal issue (headgasket, rings, etc..) but it would be in your best interest to do a compression check to see. Also, I noticed you said everything was new. Some turbo's need to be primed BEFORE initial start-up. Possible you blew the turbo seal!? Check to see if you have any shaft play. Goodluck and let us know how it works out.
Couped_up'd
02-08-2010, 07:16 AM
I am still shocked he was doing donuts with a new turbo kit, and no tune....
R33E8
02-08-2010, 08:35 AM
But I have a upgraded fuel pump sr injectors and afc..
So it seems like you took care of tuning the fuel, but did you retard the timing at all at the dizzy? How much boost were you running?
kikcaffine
02-08-2010, 08:44 AM
Im willing to bet good money that this is an ebay turbo kit. Poor little ebay turbo didnt even stand a chance.
krisdeezy
02-08-2010, 09:00 AM
^ so what ? Gtfo ? Who cares what you think it doesn't help with his problem. My friend ran a 50 trim ebay turbo it last just fine.
Anyways without all these people hating, it could be numerous things that could be wrong. Check if each cylinder has fire first, if anything yes your rings could be out, I had a similar ka-t setup and happened to me.but then again it could be your turbo seal. Do a compression test first is your best bet ! Does the white smoke happen after the car is warm and constant that smells like oil ?!
krisdeezy
02-08-2010, 09:02 AM
^ so what ? Gtfo ? Who cares what you think it doesn't help with his problem. My friend ran a 50 trim ebay turbo it last just fine.
Anyways without all these people hating, it could be numerous things that could be wrong. Check if each cylinder has fire first, if anything yes your rings could be out, I had a similar ka-t setup and happened to me.but then again it could be your turbo seal. Do a compression test first is your best bet ! Does the white smoke happen after the car is warm and constant that smells like oil ?!
kikcaffine
02-08-2010, 09:11 AM
^ so what ? Gtfo ? Who cares what you think it doesn't help with his problem. My friend ran a 50 trim ebay turbo it last just fine.
Anyways without all these people hating, it could be numerous things that could be wrong. Check if each cylinder has fire first, if anything yes your rings could be out, I had a similar ka-t setup and happened to me.but then again it could be your turbo seal. Do a compression test first is your best bet ! Does the white smoke happen after the car is warm and constant that smells like oil ?!
Shut your *snip*y 16yr old ass up.
krisdeezy
02-08-2010, 09:57 AM
Shut your *snip*y 16yr old ass up.
lol ! wow shows who's really mature eh ?
Iron_Zenki
02-08-2010, 10:36 AM
Man oh man every were you go on zilvia people bitchn at each other I thought we were all supposed to help each other out :kiss:
drift_maniac
02-08-2010, 12:17 PM
Man oh man every were you go on zilvia people bitchn at each other I thought we were all supposed to help each other out :kiss:
LMAO.:rimshot: joke.
J90lude
02-08-2010, 03:48 PM
If you posted up your whole setup like you should've you wouldn't had to deal with all this madness in this thread haha. Although beating on your car with a brand new turbo wasn't a good idea by the way.
J90lude
02-08-2010, 03:49 PM
Yay, more ghetto KA-T set ups.
Do it right, or don't do it at all.
No stock ECU can compensate for a new mod that is changing the amount of air fuel and ratios you're changing by installing a turbo.
Exactly!!:rimshot:
d3m14n
02-08-2010, 03:58 PM
hit the reset button. buy another KA for 100 bucks. ;]
does the smoke dissipate as soon as it hits the air or does it linger as white smoke?
lazysk8er2
02-08-2010, 04:40 PM
thread is pointless op already said he knew what was going on and didnt want our help.
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