Tubs!!!

[joecar]

I know theres an engine bay thread but, I am plotting to tub my front wheel wells. And pics Ideas, trailer fenders that you've cut to fit?

[slider2828]

I think most use sheet metal..... cut and weld....

[murda-c]

trailer fenders! lol.

[bejota180sx]

there was a thread with some info on this... i remember most people bought some from jegs or summit that sale them by pairs and different sizes, i've seen people use those metal trash cans... cut out yours and weld in either those or shaped sheet metal (there are a few examples in the fabrication thread also... search around a bit and u'll find the info u want...

[MavericStephenc]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m19/MavericStephenc/Picture094.jpg

here's mine. Fuji crew hooked it up for me.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p160/DJButton/S13/29131329.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p160/DJButton/S13/29291365.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p160/DJButton/S13/Photo_081608_001.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p160/DJButton/S13/Photo_081608_007.jpg

The finished product:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p160/DJButton/DSC01197.jpg

[rps13drift]

I made mine with my buddy out of sheet metal doors that were garbage at work. What we did is we made the tubs first out of cardboard than traced the shapes on the sheet metal. Cut the shapes out and than welded them in place. Not too bad!

cardboard
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/16763_1241223705268_1069585743_7464.jpg

metal
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/15146_1249130742939_1069585743_7708.jpg

Done for now. Gotta paint the bay
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd107/rps13drift/15162_1268144498271_1069585743_8225.jpg

[repda916]

trailer fenders! lol.
hilarious huh :boink:
Im pretty sure it would work.. and im also pretty sure mini truckers use fenders for their tubs.

[C. Anderson]

Trailer fender for real. You just cut it in half and hammer the outer rolled edge flat.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/95silvia06/S13%20Build%2009/IMG_3974.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/95silvia06/S13%20Build%2009/IMG_3964.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/95silvia06/S13%20Build%2009/IMG_4115.jpg
and I bought them here. Carry-On Trailer Single Wheel Steel Fender with Skirt — 32in.L x 9in.W x 15in.H | Trailer Fenders | Northern Tool + Equipment (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200322357_200322357)

[initial_jc]

tubs look real nice

[Matej]

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Dino%20Dalle%20Carbonare/2010/February%202010/ExceedMoat-S14s/TskTA-130.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Dino%20Dalle%20Carbonare/2010/February%202010/ExceedMoat-S14s/TskTA-131.jpg

[irax]

what tubs are those? thats pretty hot I like it!

[joecar]

does anybody have any pics of the inside of the wheel well, underneath. Im curious to see what you guys did. I already did all the cutting now Im trying to figure out the best way for structure at ther top of the strut tower. I was thinking about trying to fold some of the remaining strut tower under the top of the tub and tach welding underneath to add some rigidity.

[JDMSTYLE]

that red s14 has some nice tubes. subtle and functional.

[ch1873857]

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/vh450sx/mikesbuild/fendertubs009.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/vh450sx/mikesbuild/fendertubs010.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/vh450sx/mikesbuild/fendertubs011.jpg


cant find pics of the finished product. it was all filled and made smooth and painted.. this was my buddys car. its still not together but the tubs turned out great. i dont like some of the other ones where its squared off and comes out passed the strut tower.

one trailer fender wasnt wide enough. so i welded them together hotdog style. flat edge to flat edge. cut them in half, hamburger style. trimmed as needed. welding on the nissan steel is always a bitch, ive done way to much.

[TurboSE]

maybe a dumb question, but what are the benefits of this? Does it really give you that much room for bigger wheels/tires?I'm swapping an RB26 and I think that engine bay space is more important than tire room....I'm not flaming or arguing, just wondering what everyones motivation is for this.

[drift_limo]

Trailer fender for real. You just cut it in half and hammer the outer rolled edge flat.



thats it?

so i would just have to order one tubfor both sides??

[repda916]

thats it?

so i would just have to order one tubfor both sides??
yesssssiirrr:bigok:

[joecar]

I picked up some 9x32 trailer fenders from a local trailer supply store with the skirts and already cut them in half.Im stumped how far are you guys cutting on the strut tower? I want to cut out as much as possible without messing with the structure. Heres where im at right now.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/JoeTalmont/001-43.jpg

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/JoeTalmont/002-42.jpg

[Slip&Sliden 240]

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7258/img00002200907111847.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4448/img00010200906262019.jpg

[Johny5]

gonna drop this here too

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/new%20batch/SDC10887.jpg

legit pre-fabbed beadrolled gt-fabrications tubs. yeah

[RurouniMidnight]

I bought fender tubs from summitracing and cut them to fit, it probally comes with enough material to do 2 cars if your careful, heres some snaps when i did mine few months back.

http://www.axiomotion.com/files/26/uh%20oh%202.jpg
http://www.axiomotion.com/files/26/uh%20oh%203.jpg
http://www.axiomotion.com/files/26/tub.jpg
After tacking them in i went over the seams with seam sealer.
http://www.axiomotion.com/files/26/engine%20paint%204.jpg
http://www.axiomotion.com/files/26/painted%20bay.jpg

[sonomadrifter]

I'm surprised how little you guys are cutting out and replacing. I rubbed the front and top so I cut in hard?

Trailer fender for $20 and a couple bucks of 16 gauge.

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/mnkymits/motore001.jpg

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/mnkymits/motorr014.jpg

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/mnkymits/motort002.jpg

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/mnkymits/motort003.jpg

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/mnkymits/vir295.jpg

I'll have to find some inner shots.

[racepar1]

Unfortuanetly Redline Time Attack won't let me run tubs in "street tire" class. There is some nice work in here...

[omgRWDgoodness!]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w302/P_Toms/tubs.jpg

?

[TurboSE]

maybe a dumb question, but what are the benefits of this? Does it really give you that much room for bigger wheels/tires?I'm swapping an RB26 and I think that engine bay space is more important than tire room....I'm not flaming or arguing, just wondering what everyones motivation is for this.


I notice these are mostly S14's as well, is this mainly a problem that plagues them?

[95KA-Turbo]

I'm surprised how little you guys are cutting out and replacing. I rubbed the front and top so I cut in hard?

Trailer fender for $20 and a couple bucks of 16 gauge.


I'll have to find some inner shots.


^^^ This guy was nice enough to help me out with his design and I made his style fender tubs, I thought they looked really nice:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/4110669759_fe8bd2808f.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2624/4110679421_95b67329b7.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2679/4110680801_1264973e5e.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/4110666729_81e0229fa5.jpg

I wanted maximum clearance so we cut up really high on the strut tower - even cut the back and hammered it up and rewelded it. Then proceeded to cut up the fender rail to allow for more clearance overall.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2654/4110682061_c1e554a35f.jpg


Finished product:

http://knoop.sumospeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/blog6.jpg

You can see all of the room - there was barely two fingers worth of room in there before and I lowered it another inch and a half.

http://knoop.sumospeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/blog8.jpg


I notice these are mostly S14's as well, is this mainly a problem that plagues them?

I think mostly S14 owners do this because most S13 owners I know are cheap and are more worried about getting their ebay taillights and body kits to fit right then make it so they can run a wider wheel up front. S14s have significantly more room up front then S13s from the factory, so tubbing a S13 would help quite a bit.

[TurboSE]

I think mostly S14 owners do this because most S13 owners I know are cheap and are more worried about getting their ebay taillights and body kits to fit right then make it so they can run a wider wheel up front. S14s have significantly more room up front then S13s from the factory, so tubbing a S13 would help quite a bit.

or maybe S14 owners are more willing to pay more for a heavier car (I know it's only 23lbs, but I had to come back with something!)....

How much extra width do you think you get with tubs?

[vqdreaming]

or maybe theyre just more of wheel whores/typically have more money then s13 owners.

or maybe S14 owners are more willing to pay more for a heavier car (I know it's only 23lbs, but I had to come back with something!)....

How much extra width do you think you get with tubs?

[Tearlessj]

Ok yea lets move on.

Does anyone have tubs with the factory fuse box in place? I would love to get this done to get rid of my rubbing issues, but I don't feel like relocating my harness.

[dato]

please excuse the white lines i was water sanding, s13

http://i46.tinypic.com/jagcgx.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/11rfabl.jpg

[TurboSE]

sorry for all the noob question, but do you do this so you can go lower?

[whiterps13]

You do this so you can have more wheel clearance at full lock with really wide wheels/tires.
(Full lock means the steering wheel is turned all the way, Im sure one of you would ask)

[sonomadrifter]

Ok yea lets move on.

Does anyone have tubs with the factory fuse box in place? I would love to get this done to get rid of my rubbing issues, but I don't feel like relocating my harness.


http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/mnkymits/carnovemberalmostdone018.jpg

I didn't feel like it either, although I kinda wish I did now. IDK, didn't have the time.

It works but I had to cut the hell out of the box to get it to fit, other than that its fine. I'll redo it when the motors out next winter.

Stephen: I was worried that because I didn't cut the frame above the wheel, as you did, it would rub there again but the tire hasn't touched it yet. Getting rid of those old springs was a good idea I guess.

WHEN IS DRIFTWATER?!?!?

[turbo_dreams]

If you guys need pix of an s13 with tubs just look up my threads/posts, I'd post the pix but I'm on my blackberry and in class. I'm surprised so many people have tubs. If anyone doesn't want to relocate their fuse boxes, you can tuck it under the battery tray and make a sealed box for it out of aluminum.

[ch1873857]

You do this so you can have more wheel clearance at full lock with really wide wheels/tires.
(Full lock means the steering wheel is turned all the way, Im sure one of you would ask)

full lock is also limited by the frame rails themselves. most tubs are merely for aesthetics. most poeple that run tubs dont even really need them. a really low offset wheel and fenders will do in a lot of cases. when someone asked why my buddy did it. he said, "because i fucking can" :snoop: hes running an SSR dish wheel like eurolines and viennas but even then probably didnt need it. its an extreme amount of work if their done right. i completely welded his, he even mudded them up and made them smooth. tack welding and seem sealing .... :down: the strut towers are key in structural rigity in the front end. why you would puss out and use seam sealer is beyond me.. dont cheap out and dont get lazy.

[joecar]

finished them up last week, thanks for all the responses it really gave me some good ideas

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/JoeTalmont/003-37.jpg

[TurboSE]

Are those summit tubs?

[joecar]

yep there summit, but they suck. I just scrapped the use of there locking system for the pinch seam on the skirts and just cut them up and fabbed everything.

[TurboSE]

yep there summit, but they suck. I just scrapped the use of there locking system for the pinch seam on the skirts and just cut them up and fabbed everything.


they look good, anymore pics? Specifically from underneath and possibly from the engine bay side?

[msanchez]

this is probably a dumb question, so humor me.
are you guys using aluminum or steel? summit lists tubs made out of both,
but i assume trailer fenders are aluminum?

[thefro526]

this is probably a dumb question, so humor me.
are you guys using aluminum or steel? summit lists tubs made out of both,
but i assume trailer fenders are aluminum?

Steel.

The tubs have to be steel so that they can be welded to the chassis. (also steel)

[msanchez]

^thanks man.

[DRIFT-ELITE]

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7258/img00002200907111847.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4448/img00010200906262019.jpg


imma be heading back to Pasco later this year...last i went i couldnt find anyone that was drifting out there and i couldnt find any good spots...

my cousin took me to a spot out by the hills/mountains but it was pretty wack only good for circles, figure 8's and a sow 2nd gear entrance..

[Gnnr]

gonna drop this here too

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/new%20batch/SDC10887.jpg

legit pre-fabbed beadrolled gt-fabrications tubs. yeah

Now that is how it should be done! :bigok:

[turbo_dreams]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs547.snc3/29968_434917073131_708983131_5774223_5708226_n.jpg

[mtx450]

weakkkkkkkkkkk

[blkmrkt]

i just finished my tubs and was wondering where you guys were mounting your coolant reservoirs and fuse boxes??

[turbo_dreams]

i just finished my tubs and was wondering where you guys were mounting your coolant reservoirs and fuse boxes??

Behind my bumper/fender. In a air tight plexiglass box of course.

[TurboSE]

I'm in the process of installing my tubs....they're a lot of work, and I'm not an expert welder...but I'm really happy with the progress....now if Lincoln would just send me the damn adapter so I can run big spools of wire, I could finish them up. As for the coolant res, prolly best just to fab a new one. I rewired my chassis so I can't comment on the fuse boxes.

I'll post pics once they're all smoothed and prettied up.

[Walperstyle]

trailer fenders! lol.

Yeah, its so much easier to take something thats already made.

[TurboSE]

Yeah, its so much easier to take something thats already made.

plus Summits are so thin...the trailer fender I got were nice 16 (18 maybe) gauge steel...

[Om1kron]

what tubs are those? thats pretty hot I like it!

The two red cars I'm assuming you're asking about are the Exceed Moat s14 engine bays.

[GSXRJJordan]

Ok yea lets move on.

Does anyone have tubs with the factory fuse box in place? I would love to get this done to get rid of my rubbing issues, but I don't feel like relocating my harness.

Wouldn't recommend it. Take the opportunity to relocate the fusebox inside the cabin, or replace it with a smaller fusebox and separate relay panel. Save weight, space, and you'll lose that huge fucking mess of wiring that goes over the driver's side wheel and under the core support.

Steel.

The tubs have to be steel so that they can be welded to the chassis. (also steel)

Yup, common sense.

plus Summits are so thin...the trailer fender I got were nice 16 (18 maybe) gauge steel...

16 or 18ga steel is fine. It's the curved shape of the steel that gives it it's strength, not the thickness. I used .030" 4130 steel on mine.

I had the "standard" curved tubs when I was SR (I ran 18x10 +0 with 245/40/18s and rubbed all over, back and front) and made a few sets for other people, but didn't have enough room for the intake tube/filter next to the charge piping because they came so far forward. Decided to do something new with the RB25 setup, came out awesome... one of the most complimented parts of the car.

Started by mounting the wheel/tire, turning to full lock, and giving myself another 10* and 1" of space in front (that's about how much I had on top at full compression). Fab'd a 1/2" sch 40 square tube structure and used thin-wall steel (.030") to fully box it - extremely strong finished product, definitely stronger than the strut tower->firewall section of the frame.

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pteAp7vEq5ZhfZ3UlEsWoK4GMhyvdQ6lyjri-qkiu0u-46gvXpMGeEDSUA1QGUtX7fGbGWzqReOdp9RCqdN_uiQ/DSC05778.jpg?psid=1

Measure twice, cut once, swear, debate cutting again, use helping hand to nail fitment:
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pK6jUIlIou4GgeUdOqERTu-pN8hFwy2tVC0ielxnFbLeRKnr4FhTAJsCV4eioYO68tz86QW_e _pxr9InMac1k3w/DSC05779.jpg?psid=1

Cardboard template:
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pVPlRO23gQZj6XAB5TSymhASkX2-DLELGEu7vj-TcyqgQP0abc8jRYQtRHhwRpfk4Eq5t0-sTsl_pThmybku5-w/DSC05780.jpg?psid=1

Bare metal:
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pnc67P8Evy8zimnhZl29LpJig3oqgfHjhCru7_DEv4flASdn _m7t8ycYdstJYB0bEgWf4KmndIwDpDcm9JowsQg/DSC05997.jpg?psid=1
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1ptRPCyN2l0WlD-yKr8lRikTZsKQ1I56bzD3baEIGMhvqgF2l1LdCU3z6-mmaXabTaI6yMKBqvxqn31KKgnCh1ow/DSC05999.jpg?psid=1

Inside pass wheel well (after some evercoat z-grip, before rubberized undercoat):
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pSlix-a36103_F3Pono4bpOyvR34jXFGVI5DMNMNC07kZrn78EWPcG5K WRtlM5pObBmmVS6V_bwvIhj7OInhFvg/DSC06005.jpg?psid=1

Mid painting:
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pLPHu1TSOTFxcsOL8qnO1OqB7BPUFa3vvXD6tqE5i7H4r3DS Vo0m9brGb9FJBGH0KMotexooMiQeCWobi1uN7YQ/DSC06050.jpg?psid=1

Finished:
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pCxwcALo3eZAEL4nWJn43-XTvyojpLaRZ9njeZ5dB7TV9NzQJ3CvI3-8JhPZIgy4pl0CwMCuBQy6ggfsw9ar_2Q/DSC06068.jpg?psid=1
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pyFJ3_l2EMcaY1DHCRhG3a8TwoZEMeWCRQnOevsP1cq-ygmr6iIfXqmYFgxzqtrNjUCumbrOBNIBKsl_JoJMeKw/DSC06119.jpg?psid=1

[altalti]

WOW!!! gsxr that looks amazing:ssex:.

[Exclusive Nights]

wow that looks really good man....

[GSXRJJordan]

WOW!!! gsxr that looks amazing:ssex:.

wow that looks really good man....

Thanks guys. Credit to Impuse Engineering in HB for giving me the idea, they had similar tubs on their fastback, but it wasn't totally boxed.

I'm concentrating my efforts on my LSx FD and tentatively sold the RB25 so the S14 shell is currently for sale! Fully seam welded with tubs in front and Dmax widebody in the back, properly done :) Cheeeeaaappppppp ~

[BMWfanaticE46]

I don't know why, but I love the look of tubbed fenders, aside from their obvious functionality.

[msanchez]

Im making my tubs right now for my s14, and i cant figure out how to make the skirt (flat metal closest to the hot pipe on the driver side and cold pipe on the passenger) meet up flush with the frame rails. I have the top of the tub sitting in about the same spot on the shock towers as all the other pictures ive seen, but im still coming up about an inch short of frame if i were to run the skirt straight down.. I wouldnt mind this, but there is no flat surface to weld to until you hit the frame. can anyone tell me what they did? my only idea is to angle the skirt toward the inside of the car, but that wont look right at all. any help would be appreciated.

[stephen-knight]

Im making my tubs right now for my s14, and i cant figure out how to make the skirt (flat metal closest to the hot pipe on the driver side and cold pipe on the passenger) meet up flush with the frame rails. I have the top of the tub sitting in about the same spot on the shock towers as all the other pictures ive seen, but im still coming up about an inch short of frame if i were to run the skirt straight down.. I wouldnt mind this, but there is no flat surface to weld to until you hit the frame. can anyone tell me what they did? my only idea is to angle the skirt toward the inside of the car, but that wont look right at all. any help would be appreciated.

You probably either need to widen the tub or just angle the skirt. i'm pretty sure most people on here had to angle it out a little to make it fit unless they have wide tubs with ugly corners near the shock tower haha

[msanchez]

You probably either need to widen the tub or just angle the skirt. i'm pretty sure most people on here had to angle it out a little to make it fit unless they have wide tubs with ugly corners near the shock tower haha

ya I was trying to stay away from the ugly corners up at the shock towers..
I'm waiting on more sheet metal to see what angling it will look like. That'll probably be what ends up happening.

[msanchez]

Just finished up my tubs. Sorry for the crappy iphone pics. I ended up cutting alot more out of the side than the first couple pictures show. Johnny Fraz (Stealth Custom Fabrication) seam welded the bay and welded up the tubs. This guy is an amazing welder and a great dude. I couldnt be happier with his work. Stealth Fabrication. (http://www.stealth-custom-fab.com) , dude makes legit stuff.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/hard_core_kid/36473_137117769640443_1000002666334.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/hard_core_kid/37297_137118349640385_1000002666334.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/hard_core_kid/35882_137117912973762_1000002666334.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/hard_core_kid/36877_137118036307083_1000002666334.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/hard_core_kid/36123_137118122973741_1000002666334.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/hard_core_kid/36015_137118206307066_1000002666334.jpg

[Om1kron]

looks good.

[RurouniMidnight]

yeah those turned out really well, way to go.

[Sam_Well.13]

i know tubbin' is a purpose to gain more steering angle and not rub, but what part(s) do you need to do so. Just wanted to ask since all the people here got em'.

Tie rod ends.. is there anymore i should look for??

[Sam_Well.13]

oh and i also got Megan trach series coilovers @ the moment with 32 adj and camber plates.

[msanchez]

^ thanks guys, im really proud of how it turned out. i could have done it without the help of some close friends.


sam_well: modified knuckles will give you the most steering angle. check out powered by max and ma motorsports. and your coilovers have nothing to do with ho much angle you can acheive. hope that helps.


more tubs please!

[Slidin' Sam]

Question about tubs...I don't remember where, but I heard somewhere that you can not have tubs in Formula D?...I tired to research this, but the rule book is very difficult to understand. I did notice at Long Beach that a lot of guys just cut out their wheel wells as opposed to adding tubs.

[filthylookalike]

lots of good info here lovin it

i'm doin the tub on my s13 this weekend and stupid question but everyone tubs the front but i'm wonderin about behind the strut.

another dumb question is do i "have" to remove my coilovers? i just got an alignment done 2 months ago and don't wanna have it done again if i don't have to
thanks guys

[msanchez]

just see where the wheel rubbed the paint off and hit those spots with a hammer.. that what i did. you should atleast unbolt the coilover from the shock tower. thats all i did, and i covered them for welding and paint.

[SRzenkiS14]

O_O wow, lots of good work in here! Has anyone had problems with strength in the fenderwell? Does it need to be reinforced at all or is it strong enough just the way it is?

Currently debating on doing this to my S14.

[nathanong87]

i dont think the fender well adds anything to that actual* integrity of the chassis. meaning....u can cut them out completely and it wouldn't be any less* strong...

[SRzenkiS14]

Ok good too know. I wasn't sure being the coilovers are in the tower, which is close to where you would be cutting. I just didnt want something crazy to happen to me, such as my fenders collapsing haha

[eklips3]

somebody has got to make a detailed write up about tubs, i wanna try it out but it looks wayyy to hard .

on another note , say you have a 9.5 wide rim and you have tein inner and outer tie rods for steering angle ... do you need tubs ?

[DJPimpFlex]

somebody has got to make a detailed write up about tubs, i wanna try it out but it looks wayyy to hard .

on another note , say you have a 9.5 wide rim and you have tein inner and outer tie rods for steering angle ... do you need tubs ?

Way to much fail in this post.

Tubs are only as hard as you make it. Cardboard and common sense are you friends.

9.5" rim. Your leaving out to much info, tire, offset, chassis. Don't be retarded. This is why we can't have nice things.

Edit : Stealth Custom Fab FTW!!!!

[eklips3]

Way to much fail in this post.

Tubs are only as hard as you make it. Cardboard and common sense are you friends.

9.5" rim. Your leaving out to much info, tire, offset, chassis. Don't be retarded. This is why we can't have nice things.

Edit : Stealth Custom Fab FTW!!!!


too much fail hey ? alright then let me redeem myself

9.5" rim , +35 offset ( + 25 with 10mm spacers ) 225/45/18 , S13 chassis

i guess i should of specified but i guessed it wouldnt of mattered.

[landins13]

well i geuss its time for me to quite slacking and do mine. i just finished fabricating my own hydrolic hand brake for my 240 and a rally light bar for my wrx so i geuss its time to go back to the 240

[geoff240sx]

heres mine

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/geoff240sx/buildup14.jpg

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/geoff240sx/buildup21.jpg

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/geoff240sx/buildup22.jpg

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/geoff240sx/buildup23.jpg

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/geoff240sx/SDC14845.jpg

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/geoff240sx/SDC14852.jpg

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/geoff240sx/SDC14851.jpg

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/geoff240sx/SDC14846.jpg

[godrifttoday]

mine are the best!

http://i52.tinypic.com/xby0bk.jpg

[95KA-Turbo]

Geoff, I am curious what you come out of left field with next on this S13, haha! Its looking really good so far.

[geoff240sx]

Geoff, I am curious what you come out of left field with next on this S13, haha! Its looking really good so far.thanks knoop, the next big thing that going to happen is downgrading my plan an just puting a red top in the bitch so can hurry up an get it out at driftwater

[anton1o]

Bit of a different style..

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4718459790_4ce1e8053f_b.jpg

[Tearlessj]

Mine is the crapiest one in this thread.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5007914614_e1b7bd59eb_b.jpg

[slow_sr20]

thanks knoop, the next big thing that going to happen is downgrading my plan an just puting a red top in the bitch so can hurry up an get it out at driftwater

did you use a trailer fender for the tubs??? looks GREAT!

[geoff240sx]

^^^ yep, bought it from Northern Tool for 30 bucks

i just need to make a build thread here on zilvia

[Black240Ct]

been searching on some tub ideas. heres a little photo dump

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs140.snc4/37362_105633412822931_100001288189419_41695_453634 2_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs084.snc3/15142_1266492737974_1099457763_845807_2132877_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs104.snc3/15142_1266492777975_1099457763_845808_3337851_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs104.snc3/15142_1269488932877_1099457763_853836_3949742_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs401.snc4/46461_1530797785435_1099457763_1533111_196037_n.jp g

[Chamb-O]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4421036679_c767cd1ec9.jpg

I made an L channel with a shrinker/stretcher and a sheetmetal break

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4421803168_384999b239.jpg

measured clearance with welding rod with a ton of caster and -1 to -5 camber with 18x9.5 -5 with a 245/40 on

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4423186625_ebd40d5ded.jpg

Roughed out a piece of 18 gauge with a power hammer using the L channel and welding rod as a buck

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4424700031_7b4279537e.jpg

spot welded them to the L channel

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2756/4436618887_155a2c7a66.jpg

semi finished product

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4437392380_334c208fbb.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4458265338_e685d869d2.jpg

no body work just some sealer to keep rust down

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4457489015_43db562982.jpg

[bllabong89]

^^Sick. That is some fab work right there. Props to you sir

[blueshark123]

Chamb got some nice skills

[kriss]

nigel from AUS's 180 and s15 in orgress

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/anmlrx/enginebay180.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/anmlrx/IMG_7859-560x420.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/anmlrx/IMG_7802.jpg

[Y0SH]

^^^ that is exactly what i want to do to my 240. I love the look of anton1o's tubs. that engine bay is so clean.

[tricky_ab]

Damn he chopped the shit out of the front of that S15! :eek:

[SaNTi]

Here's mine.

http://s.shld.net/is/image/Sears/00697247000-1?hei=600&wid=600&op_sharpen=1

[azsr20det]

lulz
tenten

[tdaffern]

WEEEE BEEE TUBBBINNN


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5270/5601793021_3251d69a5b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5601792507_4ea35ca98f.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5147/5602410474_f7796c5caa.jpg

[twinspool]

Did your tubs come with rolled edge? Or did you do it yourself?

[atutt]

Trailer fenders........... Rolled edges included......

[twinspool]

thanks............................................ ..........dots.

[Drift_86]

Some one should pre make this and sell them I know I would buy a set

[GSXRJJordan]

Some one should pre make this and sell them I know I would buy a set

I've got a shear and brake on the way and a couple orders stacked up, I'm considering it.

[ezza]

I notice the tubs go from the shock tower forward but not backward to the firewall, mine mostly rubs from the shock tower back wtf?

[nathanong87]

More hAmmer and more pos caster

[neonaire]

for second i thought this thread talks about hot tubs lol

[ezza]

has anyone tubbed from the tower back?

[living4surf]

I don't think it's allowed in most of the rule books so people don't really do it

[ezza]

what?

is there a valid reason? brake servo in the way?

[Jspec603]

If one wanted to, they could do a full tub. Passengers side would be easy, drivers not so much. You'd pretty much have to convert to hanging or floor mount pedals inside the car. Even after this is done, you'd still hit the frame rail (offset, width etc would have a playing factor in this) with the tire. Especially if you cut your steering stops off your front control arms.

[ezza]

I suppose nothing stops me going as far up as i can without moving the brake servo/mc

[turtle m3th]

Got some great inspiration for my tubs in this thread! Keep em coming guys!

[Staticevo]

[IMG]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3144/afrontc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/afrontc.jpg/)

almost done, still have do a couple things. I'll take better pics when its finished

[NismoPlsr]

Tubs about 60% done.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/fc8fe5cd.jpg

[higgzy]

Tubs about 60% done.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/fc8fe5cd.jpg

Your tubs look so sexy!! did you use trailer fender?

[godrifttoday]

They look wider than normal

[NismoPlsr]

Your tubs look so sexy!! did you use trailer fender?

Thanks.

Yeap.

16-Gauge Steel, Single-Axle Trailer Fender, 10-3/4" Wide - 14" to 15" Tires Redline Trailer Fenders F1075X32-1R (http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Fenders/Redline/F1075X32-1R.html)

I found these ones that are wider than the Northern ones most people use. It allowed me to come inward and outward as far as i wanted without having to double up or extend.

Also, one fender cut in half hamburger style is enough to do both tubs with.

[tdaffern]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/5814151868_a1f27de510.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/5814151868_a1f27de510.jpg)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2334/5813584253_1382014f81.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/5813585195_910527d238.jpg

[frizzle]

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hargraves86/100_0371.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hargraves86/untitled.jpg

[R4Race]

Still need to respray the engine bay, but you guys get the idea.

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab337/SUR63/Bodykit/DSC05825.jpg
http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab337/SUR63/Bodykit/DSC05740.jpg

[s14unimog]

full lock is also limited by the frame rails themselves. most tubs are merely for aesthetics. most poeple that run tubs dont even really need them. a really low offset wheel and fenders will do in a lot of cases. when someone asked why my buddy did it. he said, "because i fucking can" :snoop: hes running an SSR dish wheel like eurolines and viennas but even then probably didnt need it. its an extreme amount of work if their done right. i completely welded his, he even mudded them up and made them smooth. tack welding and seem sealing .... :down: the strut towers are key in structural rigity in the front end. why you would puss out and use seam sealer is beyond me.. dont cheap out and dont get lazy.

It's not only for turning angle. I'm working on mine for two reasons. The first is b/c the previous owner did a hack job to clear his IC piping and secondly for bump travel. If you'll notice in this picture, mine constantly hit the tops of the factory wells. I'm not even that low, I just have actual suspension travel. Ignore the wirebush marks around the seams and look at polished area at the top of the wells as they meet the tower and the leading edge at the base of the well area. That's a problem for me and I'm only running a 225/40/18 on 9.5 +18

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubs-06-23-11014.jpg

[DanielS14]

one trailer fender wasnt wide enough. so i welded them together hotdog style. flat edge to flat edge. cut them in half, hamburger style. trimmed as needed. welding on the nissan steel is always a bitch, ive done way to much.[/QUOTE]

hhahahhaahhaha

[The 240LSX]

How much would any one charge to put some tubs on my s13 and do you have to pull the motor to do it im in va

[Jspec603]

These are two different cars we did at our shop. The tubs are 14" wide and made out of 16ga steel. We could have made them narrower, but wanted to try it out going straight up from the frame rail. Some will like, some will not. There really is no wrong way of doing this as long as your gaining space in the wheel well.

Unfortunately the way our site is setup, I cannot copy a picture link address. I still need to add updated pics of the black hatch. It's just about finished and ready to drive home. Sorry for the linking, mods can delete if they see fit.


Jays two4oh! (http://www.fujiispl.com/fujiispl.com/Customer_Gallery/Pages/Jays_TWO4OH%21.html)

Devins 240 (http://www.fujiispl.com/fujiispl.com/Customer_Gallery/Pages/Devins_240.html)

[Beejis60]

For cutting, did you guys cut all the way down to the frame rail and weld your new sheet directly to the rail? I think I saw that on a few builds, but I just wanna confirm. I have some rust a few inches above my frame rail so will be so this will be a dual-purpose tubbing.

[Willyd6869]

[IMG]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3144/afrontc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/afrontc.jpg/)

almost done, still have do a couple things. I'll take better pics when its finished

What front bumper is this?

[Jspec603]

On ours, we cut down to the pinch weld where the inner and outer sections meet. We then used a hole punch every inch or so on the tub to allow for strength when welding. Overlap the two sections and fill. You basically fill in each hole with weld, creating a stronger bond than a seam/stitch style weld.

[s14unimog]

I would STRONGLY suggest leaving the seam down there in tack. The only reason that "rail" has any strength is due to the seam. Get you a spot weld drill bit and remove the panel as one piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubs-06-25-11003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubs-06-25-11013.jpg

mine was already pretty hacked up so I had to separate it into two pieces but you get the idea. I'm still planning to remove more material from the shock tower but that can wait until I'm welding in the tubs.

[Beejis60]

On ours, we cut down to the pinch weld where the inner and outer sections meet. We then used a hole punch every inch or so on the tub to allow for strength when welding. Overlap the two sections and fill. You basically fill in each hole with weld, creating a stronger bond than a seam/stitch style weld.

I would STRONGLY suggest leaving the seam down there in tack. The only reason that "rail" has any strength is due to the seam. Get you a spot weld drill bit and remove the panel as one piece.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubs-06-23-11016.jpg[IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubs-06-23-11015.jpg[IMG]

mine was already pretty hacked up so I had to separate it into two pieces but you get the idea. I'm still planning to remove more material from the shock tower but that can wait until I'm welding in the tubs.

Ya, I figured you would leave the entire seam and it made no sense to me why it looked like some of them were cut all the way to the frame rail.
And I have a few spot weld drill bits lying around.....

Thanks for the help guys :rawk:

[NismoPlsr]

Finished fabbing. I just need to do some grinding, primering, seam-sealing, undercoating, and painting.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/25ebd037.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/9ea1d39f.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/83a73f5b.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/211ca1ae.jpg

[kriss]

thats realy neat well done dude

[JaredP]

^^ thats exactly what im lookin to do man, looks dope

[s14unimog]

^^ Fantastic job! Exactly what I'm after. I'll post my results in the next day or so. Here's a quick shot of the factory fenders just "un-installed"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubs-06-25-11007.jpg

[nismo racer]

heres mine
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268651_10150288621825280_528225279_9553555_2655712 _n.jpg

[K_style]

Man... I need to get schooling on weldings...

envy you all !!!

[ezza]

Finished fabbing. I just need to do some grinding, primering, seam-sealing, undercoating, and painting.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/25ebd037.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/9ea1d39f.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/83a73f5b.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/211ca1ae.jpg

Beautifully done!

can i just ask what thickness metal i should be using for this (i have trailor fenders on the way already)

also where are people mounting there PAS resevoir's?

[Beejis60]

Finished fabbing. I just need to do some grinding, primering, seam-sealing, undercoating, and painting.

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/25ebd037.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/9ea1d39f.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/83a73f5b.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/211ca1ae.jpg[IMG]

I love how your tubs recess away from the frame rail. Gorgeous. I assume you cut it like that to make it recess, no? Care to state which manufacturer's trailer fenders you used?

[NismoPlsr]

Beautifully done!

can i just ask what thickness metal i should be using for this (i have trailer fenders on the way already)


My trailer fender was 16g but i used 22g for all the sheet because that's all Tractor Supply had in big enough pieces and i was too lazy to go to the metal supply place.


I love how your tubs recess away from the frame rail. Gorgeous. I assume you cut it like that to make it recess, no? Care to state which manufacturer's trailer fenders you used?

I made the edge of the fender parallel with the frame rail but about 1.5" more outboard. I used cardboard to make a pattern the shape of the shock tower in the location i wanted to the fender and trimmed that until it fit perfect then transferred the shape to the fender.

The fender I used.
16-Gauge Steel, Single-Axle Trailer Fender, 10-3/4" Wide - 14" to 15" Tires Redline Trailer Fenders F1075X32-1R (http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Fenders/Redline/F1075X32-1R.html)

[ezza]

copied from my build thread

where im at


no turning back now :affraid:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6029/5920014412_2c21dff12f_b.jpg
My tyres were scrubbing on the inner arch obviously hence the tubbing but something harder to solve was that the tyre was catching the underside of the wing 'truss'
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6028/5919450767_312048e146_b.jpg
So i supported the front of the car to stop any 'sag' while i started modifying it.
I cut in hard:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6030/5920013680_06e6c7c0cc_b.jpg
folded it back so i could get to the back of it and cut it off.
Cut to size a peice of 1.5m, tacked one end then bent to follow the curve and tacked in place:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/5919452599_9e10c7e101_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5920015454_80abf71844_b.jpg
Then once it was secure i welded it in, thoroughly, seeing as its structural. Dont mind the dog shit welds, i was upside down looking up with the sky in the background which meant i could see fark ALL
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6133/5920016068_10e03809d0_b.jpg
from the side:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6018/5919454889_9ffdd521b4_b.jpg
New clearance, im well happy with that:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6136/5919456261_9e4d02fbfe_b.jpg
Anyway, back to the tubs:
The general idea:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5920019156_5e31ce5e0b_b.jpg
I cut along the length of the arch to get rid of the curve back inwards towards the tire, il weld a strip in its place for maximum room:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6006/5920020462_cde9acac74_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6004/5920019858_1067e92887_b.jpg
Put the pipe on to see how much room i could claim before fouling the pipes, plenty:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/5920022524_aee71bb61f_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6133/5919459617_77d8ab75f4_b.jpg
After teaking and trimming before i knew it it was 9:15, i couldnt carry on grinding so just made some rough templates for me to work with tomorrow:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5920021338_058c9d5bf2_b.jpg
More tomorrow

[NismoPlsr]

Primered and seam sealed the fender well side.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/920eaf93.jpg

3M undercoated.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/780f3ef3.jpg

[moschini]

Because of the inspiration on this thread, Im going to be tubbin' my 240. . . Front & Rear :eek3:

[ezza]

what me and a friend got done today:


I should have been taking more pics during the process but we were too busy.
Il let the pics do the talking:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6131/5923214241_69b6d246e2_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6136/5923215549_ca851555f2_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6028/5923780616_5904aaa65f_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6126/5923781870_f655782307_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6027/5923783208_bec41e9f4e_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6026/5923784170_a0e95f5b12_b.jpg

[Johny5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10115.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10114.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10112.jpg

not finished yet but an idea

[godrifttoday]

^
win!

Msglength

[XFuzionX]

Good job everyone looks good, I need to get around to doing this on my s14 haha

[Johny5]

finally finished...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10122.jpg

all done with just 1 of these...

Shipshape Steel Tandem Fender with Teardrop — 72in. Long | Trailer Fenders | Northern Tool + Equipment (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200330843_200330843)

and 4 1'x2' sheets of 22 gauge from home depot. if your car is oem core support and has most of the sheet metal up front you can probably get by with just 2 sheets

[ezza]

This is how i left it tonight:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6129/5937984355_8b105d89c7_b.jpg
Il get the thread up to speed tomorrow

im happy, my first ever thing i fabricated and welded on my own

[JaredP]

ezza your tubs are sick man, cant wait to get mine done

[NismoPlsr]

Engine bay all painted and black seam sealer on the stitch welds.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/d104d0b5.jpg

[nismo racer]

one more with the motor in the bay.

http://pegasusthefellowship.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/santa-barbara-20110717-00741.jpeg?w=640&h=480

[s14unimog]

Finally finished mine! Gotta get ready to paint now...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubscont-07-23-11004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubscont-07-23-11005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubscont-07-23-11008.jpg

[S13.75DET]

i wish i used trailer fenders, i made mine by hand using 20g scrap metal that i had laying around.
I made mine because of the hack job done to the car for IC piping access, more clearance, it was easier to fit my s14 rad support, and it looks way cooler.
I rivited them first because i was too impatient to wait for my welder to show up. but then i (practiced) welded and seam sealed with Dow 418 Primerless Urethane.

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0309.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0312.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0103.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0099.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0097.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/IMG_0098.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/DSCN1660.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/DSCN1661.jpg
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i382/dicker420/DSCN1658.jpg

[Om1kron]

explain what you have done and why?

[s14unimog]

explain what you have done and why?

Not my choice of design but it seems pretty clear to me why...

I made mine because of the hack job done to the car for IC piping access, more clearance, it was easier to fit my s14 rad support, and it looks way cooler.

[S13.75DET]

Not my choice of design but it seems pretty clear to me why...

yeah i mean i had a limited amount of scrap metal to use so i couldn't make the tubs extremely big. I did gain some clearance +1, it was free +2, and it works +3.

like i said, i wish i had used trailer fenders, but im an impatient son of bitch and i just wanted to work on something.

[GSXRJJordan]

You certainly did not gain much clearance. If you're going to the trouble of making tubs, at least plan for large tires and big angle...

[S13.75DET]

You certainly did not gain much clearance. If you're going to the trouble of making tubs, at least plan for large tires and big angle...

i have 225/45/18's +25 with 5mm spacers, and apexi n1 damper exv with camber plates, and isis tension bars that were on the car during the production, and its going to be a straight line car. AT full steer i have 1" of clearance from the tub, which is better than 1/4" of clearance which is what the stock was.

im not a drifter. i always wreck.

[sviellvoicae]

before
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/veloce240sx/IMG_0017.jpg
after
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/veloce240sx/DSCF1907.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/veloce240sx/DSCF1918.jpg

[slidewayz]

Not painted yet but some pics of my 180sx bay still gotta weld up some holes and stuff like that...

Cardboard fab
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198535_1859999790774_1564299050_31945588_5682565_n .jpg
outlines..
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189715_1863297913225_1564299050_31951088_4905268_n .jpg
cut out...
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190292_1861762914851_1564299050_31948535_7136345_n .jpg
first set of tacks before welding in....
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/195977_1863302353336_1564299050_31951092_6369924_n .jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199810_1863305713420_1564299050_31951096_7863381_n .jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/196929_1863309913525_1564299050_31951100_4882739_n .jpg
Cut front end off...
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199007_1872170415032_1564299050_31961542_2505533_n .jpg
Fab sides and tray...
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208313_1877625951417_1564299050_31969071_3832338_n .jpg
Done...
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225094_1924704968363_1564299050_32039163_6537662_n .jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/222890_1932506563398_1564299050_32050534_4620193_n .jpg

[XFuzionX]

i need tubs bad trying to tuck 17's up front

[JaredP]

started my tubs, got the pass. side tacked in place today and still got some minor spots to take care of. first thing i've ever fab'd by myself. question though, any tips to welding to the strut tower? welds keep blowing through

cut in pretty hard:
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185377_10150331547701963_511251962_9466427_7313089 _n.jpg

started tacking (can see areas needing improvement)
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/262510_10150331547666963_511251962_9466426_430001_ n.jpg

underneath:
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254682_10150331550496963_511251962_9466458_7887281 _n.jpg

significantly more room:
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/216613_10150331547836963_511251962_9466432_7954312 _n.jpg

i did this partially for more room up front, but also because my old wheel wells were pretty mangled, with holes everywhere, this looks much better. just have to touch up those two trouble spots

[PerilousActs]

Turn the voltage down.

On the Lincoln 140 I use, the voltage is around C and the wire speed is at just a hair above 2. Works great.

[JaredP]

thats what i thought. its not me welding it but its a millermatic 180 and the voltage i think was around 4. i recommended to turn it all down but my buddy didnt listen. i'll tell him again

[Johny5]

wire speed around 2? i always have trouble with balling up if i go below 3 wire speed with argon

[nathanong87]

someone please just use cardboard as their tubs. it doesn't help rigidity of the chassis anyways. and it's like easily replaceable

i'll make some disposable tubs for the s-chassis market

[PerilousActs]

wire speed around 2? i always have trouble with balling up if i go below 3 wire speed with argon
Forgot to mention wire size: 0.025

[bb4_96]

thats what i thought. its not me welding it but its a millermatic 180 and the voltage i think was around 4. i recommended to turn it all down but my buddy didnt listen. i'll tell him again

try a brass plate on the back of the weld

[NismoPlsr]

started my tubs, got the pass. side tacked in place today and still got some minor spots to take care of. first thing i've ever fab'd by myself. question though, any tips to welding to the strut tower? welds keep blowing through




Make sure all 4 sides of the metal is clean. I mean take the paint, primer, undercoating, seam sealer off with a wire wheel then make sure to wipe any other contaminants off with acetone (not brake clean) before welding. Undercoat and seam sealer like to boil and expand and blow through even from the other side.

[clever240sx]

Heres mine:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/IMG_0586-2.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/IMG_0587-2.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/IMG_0588-2.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/IMG_0589-2.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/IMG_0655-2.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/IMG_0656-2.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/IMG_0658-2.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/IMG_0659-2.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/252074_2118801723414_1046888153_2464794_1132875_n. jpg

[JaredP]

did you cut all the extra metal out underneath? looks great though, thats what i was goin for originally, now im just gonna have to make something work haha

also, how much room is left from the front of the tub forward to the rad support area?

[clever240sx]

Yes, i cut the extra sheet metal underneath that you can see in the pics.
I left at least 4-4.5 inches there, just incase i didnt like the ls1 and i wanted to go sr20 and then id have enough room to cut holes for the ic piping or i guess i could go a different route.lol

[JaredP]

very nice. i left 5-6 inches for the same purpose..but not for ic piping. looking to possibly do a cold air setup for my ls2 when i get it

[EvoVIII808]

This is really making me want to do mine. Throw on my 18s, and mod my knuckles, but first 5lug swap.

[ezza]

Got mine primered with a friend, iv since guide coated and wet sanded, should be painting tuesday, cant wait!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6147/6026756131_e65bbf00a2_b.jpg

[Marsinosllc]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/clever240sx/252074_2118801723414_1046888153_2464794_1132875_n. jpg[/QUOTE]



What fender did you use for this??

[s14unimog]

Got mine primered with a friend, iv since guide coated and wet sanded, should be painting tuesday, cant wait!

NICE! Very clean although it doesn't look like you've really gained much.... Why didn't you take them further forward?

Heres mine:

Killer job, these came out very nice.

[ezza]

thanks man^

I think its the fisheye that makes it look that way (it does look that way)

here it is as of last night:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6227547645_b16176deb0_b.jpg

[wanabedrftr]

anyone here attempt this with the motor in the car??

[EvoVIII808]

anyone here attempt this with the motor in the car??

Should be able to do it, just easier with the engine out to get the the lower parts.
Could also weld from the inside too, surely be able to do it then.
I may be knocking min out here within the next few weeks.

[natin]

Here are some im finishing up at the moment
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/tanker1993/PA253833-1.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/tanker1993/PA253837-1.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/tanker1993/P9233756-1.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/tanker1993/PA243805-1.jpg

[blueshark123]

Here are some im finishing up at the moment
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/tanker1993/PA253833-1.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/tanker1993/PA253837-1.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/tanker1993/P9233756-1.jpg
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/tanker1993/PA243805-1.jpg

WHat are u gonna do with the bmc cmc and to eun ur wiring harness into the car? NIce work but i dont see this as being ideal

[natin]

we are running floor mounted pedals. the harness will have a channel built in the frame rail and be totally hiden. as well as brake lines.

[doublestitch180]

this is mine...

http://www.rspec.org/images/simon/240sxbuild07.jpg
http://www.rspec.org/images/simon/240sxbuild08.jpg
http://www.rspec.org/images/simon/240sxbuild09.jpg
http://www.rspec.org/images/simon/240sxbuild10.jpg
http://www.rspec.org/images/simon/240sxbuild11.jpg

@cleaver240sx
Wow our tubs were done almost the same. just different color!

[ezza]

very tidy, nice!

any shots of inside the arch?

[ezza]

Im having some trouble with my intake pipe/maf/filter, theres just not enough room!

how is everyone else tackling this? i cant seem to find anything in the way of metal intake pipes either :s

you can see here how little room there is:


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6227547645_b16176deb0_b.jpg

[thenooblet]

I've seen some people sort of notch the tub kinda like this

MS Paint drawing:
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/yesaCSpencer/Tub_notch.png

Sorry if thats not what your talking about

[ezza]

iv seen this too, i really dont want to have to start cutting up my tubs already though :(

[JohanM]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/jblazze/093e3023.jpg

[EvoVIII808]

Im having some trouble with my intake pipe/maf/filter, theres just not enough room!

how is everyone else tackling this? i cant seem to find anything in the way of metal intake pipes either :s

you can see here how little room there is:
I took my pipe and cut one of the bends out. It just has 1 45 degree bend that leaves the turbo, and the filter sits right behind the radiator on the side. Perfect Fit.

[towlie]

sorry if its been mentioned before, but where is a reputable place to purchase the raw tub (ie uncut trailer fender)?

[MrFairlady]

I would like to see some pic's of underneath.

just to see the clearance avail in doing Tubs.Seems the Pinch weld Holds you back from lowering the front more than normal due to the strut Tower under section.
Angle is what I gather is the main Purpose.
Lets see some.

[d-man478]

sorry if its been mentioned before, but where is a reputable place to purchase the raw tub (ie uncut trailer fender)?

I got mine from Northern Tool. You can also get them from Tractor Supply as well.

[JaredP]

I would like to see some pic's of underneath.

just to see the clearance avail in doing Tubs.Seems the Pinch weld Holds you back from lowering the front more than normal due to the strut Tower under section.
Angle is what I gather is the main Purpose.
Lets see some.

no pics yet, but for what its worth, my 18x10 + 20 with a 255/35/18 on it clears lock to lock with tons of room up top and up front with my tubs

[Walperstyle]

nate, update please, lol

[uperformance]

dirty but you get the idea.
http://omgdrift.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/DSC_0036.jpg
http://omgdrift.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/DSC_0029.jpg

[d-man478]

love your car.

[Pantaloons]

i like it open


here is my setup
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9421/28723615417370466422610.jpg

[EvoVIII808]

I like the open look aslo, i just dont like all the stuff that gets thrown around in the bay.

[INeedNewTires]

has anyone built rear tubs? I have front tubs but my rear has clearance issues with my caster setting and how low my offset is on my wheels.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/217236_10150169032230957_694730956_7219965_814684_ n.jpg

[D.Adams]

My work

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6035/6320648149_9ee87827df_z.jpg

[bc.]

i like it open


here is my setup
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9421/28723615417370466422610.jpg

Are your headlights really mounted to your IC?

[laxrider]

Here's mine:

Before-
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t301/chargersd14/1993%20240sx%20Project/375f37b4.jpg

During-
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t301/chargersd14/1993%20240sx%20Project/bc86e3ff.jpg

Welded & Stiched-
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t301/chargersd14/315307_10150794018865556_766360555_20658720_723611 803_n.jpg

Painted-
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t301/chargersd14/3c8a2d98.jpg

I'll have to get current pics of engine bay.

[ezza]

I took my pipe and cut one of the bends out. It just has 1 45 degree bend that leaves the turbo, and the filter sits right behind the radiator on the side. Perfect Fit.

you got any pics? im struggling to picture what you mean

[Pantaloons]

Are your headlights really mounted to your IC?

no....


here is my rear end

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3776/24148110150271645858688.jpg

[I<3-SR20DET]

http://dorimoto.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/dsc1792.jpg

http://dorimoto.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/dsc2251.jpg

fully backwelded ready for smoothing.

http://dorimoto.wordpress.com/

[IIIXziuR]

I<3 SR, that looks great.
What did you use to cut your metal?
What was your technique for welding? It must have taken forever!

[EvoVIII808]

you got any pics? im struggling to picture what you mean

The normal intake is shaped like an S. So i just took out 1 of the bends. (to make it into a 45 degree.) I get a pic of it, have to let my camera charge.

[I<3-SR20DET]

I<3 SR, that looks great.
What did you use to cut your metal?
What was your technique for welding? It must have taken forever!

used electric shears and moved along slowly stichting it together so nothing warped and everything lined up properly, then fully backweld them. update soon.

[C. Anderson]

This is what I did ezza. The filter is just put under the hot pipe.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/95silvia06/4.jpg

and all I did was use a 90 coupler and put the maf on it

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/95silvia06/IMG_5308.jpg

[Super_OK_S13]

this is my progress, tore apart at the end of november. wroked 4-6 hr days for a total of like 6-8 days in between days off and daylight running out at 4 oclock.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh202/tek18b_jimmy/2011-12-22170938.jpg

[DanielS14]

will leaving the tubs open cause problems for dd

[di-devol]

^Depends if you like shit really dirty or like cleaning alot.

[dzlpwr]

has anyone built rear tubs? I have front tubs but my rear has clearance issues with my caster setting and how low my offset is on my wheels.



Working on rear tubs for my coupe now. Just cut the fenders out but only towards the front of the car... just tubbing the front sides for a little more clearance and to make a nice clean look in a gutted interior. Haven't seen anyone do full rear tubs though

[90240sx07]

ive seen a few doesnt look real hard to do
http://www.magnumforce.com/cars/50_mustang1/mustang_dc0094l.jpg
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/421225-does-anyone-do-rear-tubs.html

[95KA-Turbo]

I believe he is referring to the rear of the front wheel well - since he mentioned caster.

I cut the back OEM metal away from the strut tower and hammered it up as far as I could without interfering with the clutch master cylinder and what not. That's really the limiting factor. If you had an in cabin pedal set up then you could do it no problem.


edit...

There is a guy who did it on page 6:

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/304274-tubs-6.html#post4321723

[di-devol]

Finally got some time off, so I got to work today. Came out ok for my first time doing metal work.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/397072_280019965379220_261530230561527_725968_4031 62496_n.jpg


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380096_280072902040593_261530230561527_726228_1089 587506_n.jpg


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409493_280209318693618_261530230561527_726644_2008 331709_n.jpg

[Super_OK_S13]

di-devol do you have any pics of the underside of the well? how far in/up the shock tower did you cut? i copied the red car a page or 2 back. it looks clean and kinda factory with the inside of the tub angled.

[di-devol]

Here you go.

I left about a 1/2" lower than the start of the tub. and cut away most of the inner well. I still need to get a tire under there to see if I need more taken out.
I still need to do more cutting as well.

Having the inside of the tub angled like this wasn't exactly planned. It's just the way the tubs angled in, lol. The whole time I was researching this thread, I was wondering why people did this. Now I know.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378816_280656991982184_261530230561527_728136_3055 87429_n.jpg

[Beejis60]

di-devol do you have any pics of the underside of the well? how far in/up the shock tower did you cut? i copied the red car a page or 2 back. it looks clean and kinda factory with the inside of the tub angled.

Are you worried about making a lap weld or butt weld?

[I<3-SR20DET]

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad98/LIAMKIRBY/_DSC2566.jpg

all done.

[towlie]

looks sick tim im jelly!!!

[di-devol]

I<3-SR20DE, that looks great!

Thanks Towlie!

....And done!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/390513_280790838635466_261530230561527_728516_1778 303309_n.jpg

[s14unimog]

This is what I did ezza. The filter is just put under the hot pipe. and all I did was use a 90 coupler and put the maf on it


I'm not so sure that's a good way to be doing it. I had originally done something similar to that on my last SR build (a 45* coupler with the MAFS immediately after that) and my tuner mentioned that considering you always get some back flow through the turbo you run the risk of re-metering air. I have no testing to prove this, but have sense kept some distance between the MAFS and turbo. just my .02

[Super_OK_S13]

My only concern would be there wouldn't be enough strength on the vertical cut to support the tubs. I'm 98% sure i have penetration on the welds, but the verticle one where all the force will take isn't gonna be strong enough to hold the weight. Is there a way to reinforce that? Or, is the other 2/3 of the shock tower gonna be able to hold the car, and i shouldn't be worried.

This is gonna sound stupid after i put the pieces in but, what guage sheet metal did you guys use forthe sides and bottom?

I still have to weld the verticle seam on this side, and the arc of the tub.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh202/tek18b_jimmy/2011-12-22171111.jpg

Since i didn't extend the edges to overlap the sides/bottom, i'll be making 90* bends outta scrap to reinforce where the pieces come together.

Also, bondo/bodyfiller holds up on the hot side? what about seam sealer?

Sorry for all the questions... :facepalm: Thanks in advance!!! :)

[s14unimog]

You're actually touching on a MUCH debated subject for Zilvia. Personally I believe the only rigidity the towers had was due to a uni-body in complete structure. There are plenty of people on here who will argue that even a shock tower with the forward section removed is plenty of strength. Even though we're asking FAR more from our chassis than stock format.

Personally I think that is ludicrous and it amazes me that people over estimate the strength of the uni-body; especially after its been compromised in this way. Support your sheet metal work as much as you can. Also be sure not to have weight on the chassis when you weld. When I constructed my tubs, I used 16GA (0.065") sheet for the material; I don't think the chassis is even that thick. I think most of the factory sheet metal is 16-18GA.

I don't understand your question about the body-filler and seam sealer. Are you asking if it can withstand the engine bay heat? You'll need to refer to the individual product label for the most accurate answer.

[Super_OK_S13]

s14unimog - thanks for the input!! i agree completely on people over estimating on the strength of the car.

my great uncle is 78 and he is an old school car owner/builder from cars from the 40s-60s and hes been around the block a few times. he pretty much made me use his body tools from the 50s to work the metal on mine. he explained to me that i would most likely need a strut bar when im finished to support the towers.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh202/tek18b_jimmy/2011-12-28165259.jpg

im going to make a rad support bar like this one that bolts in.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh202/tek18b_jimmy/4620728395_005b031c68_o.jpg

[bb4_96]

the chassis is plenty strong with the front portion of strut tower removed? I've personally seen a tower tear loose, with no modifications, from drifting(no impact). I've heard a lot of stupid mentalities embraced in the spirit of half assing but... anyway.

The only way to recoupe what structural integrity you lose cutting up the strut towers would be to imitate the factory sheetmetal's function. ie tie via dom, the remaining front portion into the frame rails, and the rears into the firewall with a plate. you could also weld a collar around the top seam with some 1"x.125 bar stock so you aren't welding straight to the factory sheetmetal. Ideally you would also triangulate the strut towers/firewall. That would prevent fore/aft flex, up/down flex, in/out flex. Few feet of dom... $20 tops?

[Super_OK_S13]

i thought about using something like 1/8th-1/4in bar or round stock to make a frame inside the towers seam. then tie it into the frame. i forgot to say i'll be making a triangular strut bar as well.

[Beejis60]

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad98/LIAMKIRBY/_DSC2566.jpg

all done.

Looks good dude. What color is that paint and from what manufacturer?

the chassis is plenty strong with the front portion of strut tower removed? I've personally seen a tower tear loose, with no modifications, from drifting(no impact). I've heard a lot of stupid mentalities embraced in the spirit of half assing but... anyway.

There's a million variables into this. Did the owner reinforce the towers through stitch welding? If so, did they prep the surface well and paint the welds after? Did he or she burn deep enough? Did they run spot welds to create a simulated seam or did they just run a seam? If not, was the epoxy glue used to keep the towers in place completely disentigrated? Was there coilovers on there and did they have the strut mounts completely bolted down? Were they at full lock at high speed and perhaps hit a good sized rock/pothole when the breakage occured to cause an extreme jolt up the strut? Was there any rusting up in the tower underneath the undercoating? etc.

[boyou2]

For the colour, it looks like a lambo' grey

[Beejis60]

For the colour, it looks like a lambo' grey

Not to sound like a dick, but I was asking him for the color name/code; what it looks like isn't good enough for me. Lambo grey isn't a "real" color anyway. That grey is the color I want but am having trouble finding the exact tint/shade of grey.

[aa87]

Not to sound like a dick, but I was asking him for the color name/code; what it looks like isn't good enough for me. Lambo grey isn't a "real" color anyway. That grey is the color I want but am having trouble finding the exact tint/shade of grey.

What if the contrast/hue in the image was off and its a completely different color? Go take the picture to a paint shop and figure it out for yourself if you're totally serious.

[Slammed180]

Better yet, PM the guy that posted it, instead of running around with your head up your ass.

Morons.

[Beejis60]

What if the contrast/hue in the image was off and its a completely different color? Go take the picture to a paint shop and figure it out for yourself if you're totally serious.

Perhaps, but I do my own painting.

[Nissansota240]

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/2012-01-08_02-18-10_HDR.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/2012-01-08_01-52-43_HDR.jpg

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/2012-01-08_02-16-07_HDR.jpg

[boyou2]

Not to sound like a dick, but I was asking him for the color name/code; what it looks like isn't good enough for me. Lambo grey isn't a "real" color anyway. That grey is the color I want but am having trouble finding the exact tint/shade of grey.


so easy....

I googled it for you :

Lamborghini Paint codes from PPG (http://www.lambocars.com/archive/paint.htm)

have fun....

[N2HIFI]

Nimbus Gray Pearl: LZ7X

audi nimbus grey - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?q=audi+nimbus+grey&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=RkMLT7ehLKTM2AXqyuG2Aw&biw=1920&bih=904&sei=bUMLT6PwLoX42gX_yL23Aw)

[Beejis60]

Better yet, PM the guy that posted it, instead of running around with your head up your ass.

Morons.

cool story, but did you ever consider that maybe I like the view?

Nimbus Gray Pearl: LZ7X

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[KAs14slider]

Anyone have pics of tubs on a tube front? I am trying to get ideas on how I want to connect the front and outer sides of my tubs to my tube front

[90240sx07]

im bout to start on my tub setup anyone have any advice on a good way to go about cutting it out all the old oem wheel wells and make sure nothing gets tweaked?
any advice would be helpful thanks in advance

[GSXRJJordan]

im bout to start on my tub setup anyone have any advice on a good way to go about cutting it out all the old oem wheel wells and make sure nothing gets tweaked?
any advice would be helpful thanks in advance

Unless the chassis is seriously tweaked, the radiator support won't be stressed at rest, and you can feel fine about chopping out the tubs. Die grinder works great, as does a Sawzall for the big cuts.

[90240sx07]

Unless the chassis is seriously tweaked, the radiator support won't be stressed at rest, and you can feel fine about chopping out the tubs. Die grinder works great, as does a Sawzall for the big cuts.

thanks for the info ill keep that in mind when i do it

[Imarvin240]

Anyone have pics of tubs on a tube front? I am trying to get ideas on how I want to connect the front and outer sides of my tubs to my tube front

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thats the best i could find in this thread to relate to what you are looking for.

[KAs14slider]

Thanks man

[s14unimog]

Unless the chassis is seriously tweaked, the radiator support won't be stressed at rest, and you can feel fine about chopping out the tubs. Die grinder works great, as does a Sawzall for the big cuts.

But why not just support the chassis else where? It takes almost no time to do and can only be preventative. For welding I'd call it mandatory; I'm continuely surprised how far things move with a little heat

Finally took the plastic booth down tonight...

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[90240sx07]

i wondered the same thing since ive heard of peoples strut towers moving slightly and ruining their alignment and chassis structure

[JaredP]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/IMG_1239.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/IMG_8526.jpg

what color did you do the bay in? looks awesome! any closer shots of the underside of the tubs? looks really clean for how messed up the fenders can be

[TheRealSy90]

So where do you run the wiring harnesses and fuse boxes after you weld tubs in?

[90240sx07]

relocate or cut a whole for the wires to run like how they came from the factory

[GSXRJJordan]

i wondered the same thing since ive heard of peoples strut towers moving slightly and ruining their alignment and chassis structure

You're highly overestimating the rigidity of the stock tubs. I call total BS on changing the 3D positioning of the suspension mounting points by seam welding or doing tubs.

Whats far more likely is people crashing, cutting their front end off, welding in tubs, and then noticing their alignment is off.

So where do you run the wiring harnesses and fuse boxes after you weld tubs in?

Custom chassis harness is ideal.

[s14unimog]

what color did you do the bay in? looks awesome! any closer shots of the underside of the tubs? looks really clean for how messed up the fenders can be

It's a single stage quart kit made by SEM; Hot Rod Black. What do you mean, "for how messed up the fenders can be?"

So where do you run the wiring harnesses and fuse boxes after you weld tubs in?

You're basically forced to relocate the fuse box and reorient the lower transmission harness. I will be situating mine under the dash, like most do, and running the essentials back up to the front through the passenger frame rail.

[JaredP]

i dont know how different s14s are, but i know on my hatch (and others that i've seen) when i did the tubs, the inside by where the frame rail comes forward can be pretty messy in terms of smoothness/cleanliness of the metal. yours looks very well done (as seen by the second pic i quoted). i guess i shouldnt have mentioned fenders as the actual fender has nothing to do with the area im talking about

[Beejis60]

It's a single stage quart kit made by SEM; Hot Rod Black. What do you mean, "for how messed up the fenders can be?"

Black generally looks like ass but I can say that yours is the best looking black bay I've seen in a LONG time.

[s14unimog]

i dont know how different s14s are, but i know on my hatch (and others that i've seen) when i did the tubs, the inside by where the frame rail comes forward can be pretty messy in terms of smoothness/cleanliness of the metal. yours looks very well done (as seen by the second pic i quoted). i guess i shouldnt have mentioned fenders as the actual fender has nothing to do with the area im talking about

No worries, I just didn't know how to answer you. Ya I spent a minute trying to make it look as best as I could. Check out my build thread ("revise and rebuild I guess") there are a couple more pictures in there.

Black generally looks like ass but I can say that yours is the best looking black bay I've seen in a LONG time.

Thanks for that. I kept it black because that's the factory choice for Mediterrianian Blue body color. I really like that SEM paint too.