The Price is Right!

[wolfvq37]

I was having a discussion with my friend about crazy modifications that haven't been done to an s13 yet... he then said that people should be careful to not hack them up because these cars are getting rarer. So we started arguing as to what makes them so special. He posed a pretty good question that I couldn't really answer all that well:

What car could you buy in a price range of $4,000 or less that can be as versatile and functional in drift, track, drag, or even rally like 240sx's are, while still being able to get tons of cheap, affordable parts.

He said name 3 cars, I still haven't found reasonable answers to this question...discuss.

[93nismo]

i dident know they were used in rally. interesting.

[widebodyseven]

FC, Miatas and AE86?

[93nismo]

FC, Miatas and AE86?

good for the first 3, but rally? maybe im blind and deaf but ive never heard of them in it lol

[airforceone451]

rally 240sx:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkzLqVkbnJU

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I can't wait until these cars go out of style.

[93nismo]

rally 240sx:
YouTube - Black Bear Rally 2009: A3 - Egan Loop 2 - Part 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkzLqVkbnJU)

apparently im both blind and deaf. i serched all 3 and there all on youtube. looks like ive learned something and im not even at school yet.

[soreballz]

Who gives a fuck? They're old economy sports coupes. They aren't rare. There's still ridiculous numbers of them, stock and otherwise, on the roads.

Besides, if you care about them being valuable someday, you should buy a perfectly clean stock one, restore it completely, and then make it a point to destroy as many others as you can. The less there are on the road down the line, the more yours will be worth.

Oh, who am I kidding. After the 240 trend goes away, these cars won't be worth a damn thing, regardless of how few there are left.


And with that, cue Dave, to bust in here on his soapbox and write a novel about how the 510 was once a mass-produced economy car, but people treated them badly, so now they're rare, and the cleanest examples can fetch a whole 15 thousand dollars! :keke:

[drift freaq]

Who gives a fuck? They're old economy sports coupes. They aren't rare. There's still ridiculous numbers of them, stock and otherwise, on the roads.

Besides, if you care about them being valuable someday, you should buy a perfectly clean stock one, restore it completely, and then make it a point to destroy as many others as you can. The less there are on the road down the line, the more yours will be worth.

Oh, who am I kidding. After the 240 trend goes away, these cars won't be worth a damn thing, regardless of how few there are left.


And with that, cue Dave, to bust in here on his soapbox and write a novel about how the 510 was once a mass-produced economy car, but people treated them badly, so now they're rare, and the cleanest examples can fetch a whole 15 thousand dollars! :keke:

LOL Kyle, no I won't do that. Though it is comical that they can sell for around 5 times their original purchase price. Fuck they were tin cans. Fun tin cans but tin cans. Oh mi god he called a 510 a tin can!!

[soreballz]

You just blew my mind, Dave.


KABOOM!

[BustedS13]

http://alliancemotorsport.org/pics/c/05%2011%20Nov%205%20rallycross%20ft%20meade%202/small/Rallycross4%20113.jpg

[BustedS13]

I can't wait until these cars go out of style.

said the guy with the tiger-striped hood and flat black body.

[S13SilviaGirl]

Damn Dave are you psychic!?!?!?!? That was like, right on cue!!!!

[franklin93zx]

said the guy with the tiger-striped hood and flat black body.
my thoughts exactly

[S13 Charlie]

Miata
240 / 260 Z
GC Imprezas?

I dunno - I got nothin'.

The 240SX will be replaced by 350z's, Mustangs, Camaros, and Genesis Coupes as they age.

[nieko]

i down to buy a 350Z for 1500 dollars, and get parts at the junkyard kthnx.

lololol

[RB24_S14]

I dought the S13 can get out of style. Look at how people still mod old cars or restore them. But even if the S13 gets old. Theres still the S14, S15, 300zx, 350z, G35, 370z.

[ericcastro]

I can't wait until these cars go out of style.
Not gonna happen.
they are the next generation of the datsun 510.

Who gives a fuck? They're old economy sports coupes. They aren't rare. There's still ridiculous numbers of them, stock and otherwise, on the roads.


And with that, cue Dave, to bust in here on his soapbox and write a novel about how the 510 was once a mass-produced economy car, but people treated them badly, so now they're rare, and the cleanest examples can fetch a whole 15 thousand dollars! :keke:
Agreed, aaannnnddddd.
Looks like i took Daves spot.
But I have been preachin that for years as well.



how bout a Volvo, Merkur X4ati, subaroo legacy.

BAM !
Also E30 would have been acceptable;)

[brndck]

i don't think the 240sx will go "out of style" but i do think it won't be such a bandwagon within the next few years.

personally i can't wait till i can afford to pick up a z33 for only 5-6k (probably in pretty beat shape) and make it my track only car.

[Xbroke_kidX]

<--- Counting the days

Single cam S13 rattle can paint megan coils and exhaust with ebay steering wheel selling for like $2500 :bash:

[ILoveMyRHS13]

<--- Counting the days

Single cam S13 rattle can paint megan coils and exhaust with ebay steering wheel selling for like $2500 :bash:
We're getting damn close. I'm excited, I'm sick of this trend. I had mine before they really blew up. :(

I miss the days if you had a two tone coupe, with a Silvia front on lowering springs and meshies you were King Shit. :cool:

[BustedS13]

I had mine before they really blew up. :(


all the way back in 2007?

[ILoveMyRHS13]

2006 but they really took off in summer of 07 from what I remember.

[Xbroke_kidX]

all the way back in 2007?

Lolz

I didnt have a 240 before everyone due to the fact I was too young to have a car. So im not going to claim to be OG. I did get into the S chassis and drifting back in 03 04.

The price of a shitty 240 is was really gets me. I agree with everyone I dont think these cars will become some rare car that collecters will want. At least I hope not.

[brndck]

lol the only ones that will be rare are the ones owned by people like johnny (crimsonrocket) just due to overall cleanliness and low mileage.

in another 10 years there will still be a multitude of beaten down primer grey shitbuckets with welded diffs smashing into whatever is nearby *coughmariocough*

[ericcastro]

^or guys like Norm :)

The great thing about all the beat to shit buckets, is that there ARE so many.
So if you want a track car, or a shell, it will be cheap and available in a couple years.

And there are SO many clean 240's driven around by older peeps.
I have 3 parked on my one block alone.
trying to "save" these cars is a joke.
They are in abundance, and will be.

Dave, whats the ratio of 510's brought into this country compared to S13's?

[S14_Kouki]

Yeah I must say I dont think the 240 is going out of style anytime soon. Theres always going to be those kids out there on a budget that want a "race" car when they turn 15 or 16. We wont be seeing the g35's or 350's in the 5k price range for another 6 years must likly. I do agree in about 10 years there will be hardly any 240's around to buy reason being is ppl just fuck them up and instead of fixing them they just cut them up or give to a junk yard. So for everyone who just thinks there still going to be finding a running s13 for 1k on ever coner in 10 years ill be the one laughing at your ignorance.

[S13 Charlie]

Lolz
The price of a shitty 240 is was really gets me.

Oi! Tell me about it. I bought my first S13 back in '03 or '04 with 117,000 miles, SE power everything, sunroof, etc. for $2000. After two years enjoying my daily '07 WRX, I got bit by the bug again and recently bought another S13 with 265,000 miles, power nothing, and lots of door dings and other problems for... $2100. FML. Fortunately, I have a short commute to work, so reliability isn't a concern (and I still have my WRX), so hopefully, this car can be the project car I want it to be. I have high hopes, and there are more affordable S-chassis parts than ever. Plus, these cars are so easy to work on, it's ridiculous. Anyway, if I ever do get rid of this car, there will be more projects in the future. A Z33 would be fun and offer more modern comforts. And then there's always the old-school guy in me who wants to build a '54 Chevy chop-top, and a '66 chevelle, or a '67 mustang, or a hooked-up BMW 2002, or an E30 M3... it's endless!

[S13Boosts]

The fuck are you talking about? NOOOB. /

[exitspeed]

I think some will be worth money in the future. But not any the fucked up drifted ones.

I'd be more then willing to pay a pretty penny for a stock Lavender Frost Metallic at some point in the future. Hell I'm hoping to find a super clean stock white coupe sometime this year and I'm expecting to pay a pretty penny.

A friend of mine has a fully loaded Pearl White 95 with 29k on it. I'd imagine in 30 years that car will be worth quit a bit if he hangs on to it and keeps the miles down.

Basically I disagree that they won't be valuable at some point in the future.

[wolfvq37]

Well, I didn't mean to make this into a "is the 240sx ever going to be a classic" discussion but that's what happened. It's funny this kind of attitude towards the "it'll never be a classic" was the exact same way people thought about their cars in the 60's and 70's. Daily driver mustangs, camaros, challengers, cudas, GTXs, tempests, GTOs, 442s. Even go back to the 50's, the tri-fives (55, 56, 57) chevrolet bel airs / 210s in their all original forms are going for insane amounts of money. All of these in perfect, pristine, 'matching numbers' condition are selling for upwards of $100k+, in some rare cases even more.

Now, I guarantee you back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s no one was giving thoes cars much thought. Now, while the production numbers for some of the vehicles slightly differ from the kind of mass production we see todays, only the "specialty" cars will fetch the highest prices. I wouldn't doubt it if 30 years from now the 350z or even 370z Nismo cars don't become desirable collectibles and stop becoming history and start becoming legend.

Okay, enough rambling let the discussion continue. :ddog:

[vqdreaming]

i dont think youve been looking for a z then.

i don't think the 240sx will go "out of style" but i do think it won't be such a bandwagon within the next few years.

personally i can't wait till i can afford to pick up a z33 for only 5-6k (probably in pretty beat shape) and make it my track only car.