EVO IX & X turbos 400whp stock turbo

[guitaraholic]

How is it that the EVOs can make 400 awhp? Yes, that's 400 whp with AWD drivetrain loss. I can only imagine how much HP they are making at the FW. The evo is a 2.0 liter just like ours. Somehow they are able to make great HP on a stock turbo setup, yes, exhaust, intercooler, injectors, but I'm talking about no major change.

Do our engine just suck a$$ on breathing? I've seen a little over 300whp on a TD05-16g (same turbo as a IX and X). Here are some links of dynos I've seen from some Evo's. 400whp and minimal lag.

400 wtq - Stock Evo 9 turbo - evolutionm.net (http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyno-tuning-results/456327-400-wtq-stock-evo-9-turbo.html)

My Fuc**** Quick 400whp Evo X - EvoXForums.com - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Forums (http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25132)

[duffman1278]

T28's can get 300 with the proper modifications.

[R33E8]

because the 4g63 in evo's > all 4 cylinder engine.. no lie...

[guitaraholic]

Yeah, I dynoed mine at around 250whp, and that was with a bad boost leak and crappy louvered resonator (getting a vibrant soon)

[smelly240]

evo 9 and x arent the same as a normal 16g... they're closer to a 20g than a 16g - sit one next to a evo3 turbo (standard 16g)... wheels and housings are NOTICABLY BIGGER - and a ton bigger than a t28

[R33E8]

Also, they usually use e85, meth/water, etc to make 400+ with the stock turbo..

[smelly240]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/326/e9vse8turbocomparo0hq.jpg

its remarkable how different the evo8 and evo9 turbos are... and the 3 is smaller... big16g smaller than that - and then the normal one.

[markapple0507]

^^^^^ I definitely agree the 4g is the holy grail of all 4 cylinder engines. you just can't compare.

[smelly240]

cept anyone that REALLY knows - will always choose a 3s over a 4g...

I'm a DSM guy and I can admit when its beaten fair and square. The 3s is a work of art.

[guitaraholic]

when you say 3S are you talking about a 3S-GTE? If so, what makes them better than a 4g63? Don't the 4g's have MiVec (variable valve timing) and the blocks are almost indestructible?

BTW, the 400whp was done on 93 octane, in one of the dynoes. And the exact turbo designation of the EVO IX turbo is TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T. So its a 16G with a 10.5cm squared nozzel area

http://www.turbo-owners.com/forum/general-tech/282-turbo-tech-evos-turbos-16g-20g-etc.html

These turbos go for cheap, and some of the dynos look very streetable. Hell you can pick them up for $300-$400 all day long. It would be a nice alternative to have something that spools like a GT2871, gives you 400whp, is REBUILDABLE and do it all for 1/3 the price.

I have nothing against Garret turbos. I just don't like paying $1200 for a turbo, or buy one used for say $800, and not have the option to rebuild it in case it craps out

[boosted98gst]

cept anyone that REALLY knows - will always choose a 3s over a 4g...

I'm a DSM guy and I can admit when its beaten fair and square. The 3s is a work of art.

Thats why the 4g63 holds records through the world for being the fastest 4cly cars in the world? I daily drive a 9 second evo 9, for the money I have into it and what I have into my rb ive yet to have any "sports" car or anything even come close to what the 4g can do. 400whp? meth and e85? I am making over 650 awhp no meth, no e8th pure 93 ohio pump gas. Still stock crank and bore 2 liter. I still hold the record for hp for pump gas evo9 in the US rightnow.

[boosted98gst]

when you say 3S are you talking about a 3S-GTE? If so, what makes them better than a 4g63? Don't the 4g's have MiVec (variable valve timing) and the blocks are almost indestructible?


Only the 06 and up are mivec

[guitaraholic]

I've often thought about seeing how well I can get the sr20 head to flow (having it flow benched) I have a spare one that I have deburred and smoothed out. If its possible to get it to flow "close" to that of a 4g, then wouldn't it be possible, given everything else is equal, that the same mods on the SR20 engine would have close to the same HP as a 4g?

[bl3ujay07]

when you say 3S are you talking about a 3S-GTE? If so, what makes them better than a 4g63? Don't the 4g's have MiVec (variable valve timing) and the blocks are almost indestructible?

BTW, the 400whp was done on 93 octane, in one of the dynoes. And the exact turbo designation of the EVO IX turbo is TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T. So its a 16G with a 10.5cm squared nozzel area

Turbo tech...( Evos turbos 16g, 20g etc) - Turbo-Owners.com (http://www.turbo-owners.com/forum/general-tech/282-turbo-tech-evos-turbos-16g-20g-etc.html)

These turbos go for cheap, and some of the dynos look very streetable. Hell you can pick them up for $300-$400 all day long. It would be a nice alternative to have something that spools like a GT2871, gives you 400whp, is REBUILDABLE and do it all for 1/3 the price.

I have nothing against Garret turbos. I just don't like paying $1200 for a turbo, or buy one used for say $800, and not have the option to rebuild it in case it craps out

Send it to phase2. They quoted me 300 +shipping for new center for garrett bb turbos when i went down to get my pfc.

[smelly240]

The phoenix mr2 made 650 on pump - AND PASSED THE SNIFFER...

Then they put a beams one together and made even more. I can walk outside and go drive around in the talon and be all happy - but it isnt going to make the 3s any less wonderful.

being a fanboy for the car you drive is stupid... I have an sr and a 4g and I dont have foolish attachments to them.

[S13 curtis]

They use big cams and 25+psi of boost + meth sometimes but i get where you are comming from, it would suck to have a 2871r car and get worked by a stock turbo evo. Has anybody used one of those 16gs on an sr yet?

[smelly240]

bill @ dentsport used a TME 6.5 rally turbo with bangbang for a few year but since switched to a 30r.

[boosted98gst]

The phoenix mr2 made 650 on pump - AND PASSED THE SNIFFER...

Then they put a beams one together and made even more. I can walk outside and go drive around in the talon and be all happy - but it isnt going to make the 3s any less wonderful.

being a fanboy for the car you drive is stupid... I have an sr and a 4g and I dont have foolish attachments to them.

Yeah its always easy to name drop a shop or what other people have done to others cars, To be honest to me 650awhp is not that much its all what you're use to and drive towards. And you realize a motor that is tuned well on a standalone with a cat will pass emission right? My car passed E check with flying colors so thats nothing really impressive. I own many cars so I must be just a car fanboy.

[boosted98gst]

They use big cams and 25+psi of boost + meth sometimes but i get where you are comming from, it would suck to have a 2871r car and get worked by a stock turbo evo. Has anybody used one of those 16gs on an sr yet?


You do not need big cams on a evo9+ with mivec, even aftermarket cams are close to stock lift , they are def not as radical as the early model 4g . My cam's are not much bigger Br272's then stock cam's compared to some of the crazy built 4g's and I run 42psi out a hta37r with a lot of room.

[RB24_S14]

Evos have tiny engines with shit load os PSI. Any SR can make the same amount. I was going to trade for a Evo today but he is already going to need another rebuild in bairly 90K miles hes car had. To me those are bad motors. I will never leave RB power. Reliable, Powerfull and easy to work with.

[SpdElemts]

Plus i heard that 4g63's has great flowing heads. Which is the reason why it makes soo much power in stock form.

[R33E8]

400whp? meth and e85? I am making over 650 awhp no meth, no e8th pure 93 ohio pump gas. Still stock crank and bore 2 liter. I still hold the record for hp for pump gas evo9 in the US rightnow.

I'm talking about on stock turbos, not with something like a gt42... And do you have any proof?

[smelly240]

Yeah its always easy to name drop a shop or what other people have done to others cars, To be honest to me 650awhp is not that much its all what you're use to and drive towards. And you realize a motor that is tuned well on a standalone with a cat will pass emission right? My car passed E check with flying colors so thats nothing really impressive. I own many cars so I must be just a car fanboy.


Fisrt off - No one ever asked "hey how much power can a 37r make at 42psi on HD wisecos and eagles" - The reason 4gs make power is the turbo on them - not the engine... The 3S will make just as much with a 37r @ 42psi as u will...

650 @ 42psi on a 37rHTA is not exactly impressive. Its not like you make that "pump gas" number the way youre "daily driving" it every day and its not a stock motor... This means absolutely nothing. And lot of room to go???? at 42psi? on pump? riiight...

The 4g head does not flow some ridiculous amount, and with the exception of the slightly better - oem forged mahles in the 9 - they use the same piston and rod setup as a 2g.

If you put a big turbo on it and go big a 3s or even a f20 - will make a buttload of power... On a 4g you'll be running considerably more boost to match numbers.

I even posted a side by side of a evo 8 and 9 turbo... and the 8 is bigger than the 3... If you still have any question to why these guys can make 400 on a stock turbo you havent really looked.

[R33E8]

Damn, I just noticed that you are running the HTA37R, if that's the case then :bs: on making over 650whp on pump with no meth, no e85 etc.. If AMS uses the same turbo with race fuel, a 2.3 stroker kit, and makes 720whp then there is no way you are making over 650 on pump with the 2.0..

AMS tests the New Forced Performance HTA37R! - evolutionm.net (http://forums.evolutionm.net/automotosports-illinois/338070-ams-tests-new-forced-performance-hta37r.html)

[guitaraholic]

So, what I am getting from at least a few people on this post is, if you put a TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T turbo on an SR20det, with maybe some decent cams, you should be getting close to if not at 400whp? If that is the case 400whp just got a bit cheaper.

bl3ujay07 - $300 for a whole new CHRA?

That being the case, wouldn't it be possible to "build" a GT2871r for a heck of a lot less then a new one. Being you are getting a whole new CHRA for $300, all you would have to buy is a compressor and turbine housing, and I am pretty sure you can pick those up for not much more than $300. For that price you can go custom and even have a special turbine housing made that has the external port attached to the outside of the housing.

[R33E8]

So, what I am getting from at least a few people on this post is, if you put a TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T turbo on an SR20det, with maybe some decent cams, you should be getting close to if not at 400whp? If that is the case 400whp just got a bit cheaper.

It's a reverse twin scroll turbo so you might need a custom mani for it..

[guitaraholic]

I have heard that to get it to just fit, you just need to get a custom flange. But in order to get the full benefit you need to have an equal length twin scroll manifold.

[s13silvia123]

They use big cams and 25+psi of boost + meth sometimes but i get where you are comming from, it would suck to have a 2871r car and get worked by a stock turbo evo. Has anybody used one of those 16gs on an sr yet?

check my sig

[tkocrewsr]

So, what I am getting from at least a few people on this post is, if you put a TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T turbo on an SR20det, with maybe some decent cams, you should be getting close to if not at 400whp? If that is the case 400whp just got a bit cheaper.


well yea, and what else you have to relize is that like one of the other guys said it take alot more boost in a 4g to make the power a sr20 could with comparable mods.What else you dont relize is that most people can easily get similar numbers with a sr20 but dont becuase they are usually to cheap.The new 4g's are nice pieces of work by all means,I know this cuz my G/F has an evo 9 with an intake,turbo back and a mild ecu tune.This setup made 309whp with the exhaust and tune not the intake,when i got around to putting the intake on it made the car gain 4 tenths in the quarter with my chick driving.


Also look at this the sr20 is closely comparable in stock HP as first and second gen DSM's,And the VET is comparable with the new mivec 4g given there differences.

[guitaraholic]

I've often debated on putting a VE head on my SR in the future. I think what stops me is that the eventual goal is just go VQ, and make a ton of HP without any worry of lag. but that's not for a while.

[smelly240]

I have heard that to get it to just fit, you just need to get a custom flange. But in order to get the full benefit you need to have an equal length twin scroll manifold.

you cant do just a flange... the inlet on those is like 2 trapezoid things

http://www.shop.indigo-gt.co.uk/images/evo9turbo.jpg

it will NOT be cheaper...


I have a ve head...

[guitaraholic]

Did you notice a big difference when you went to the VE head, or are you talking about you have a spare VE head laying around?

Also...a little off topic, from what I got at the site below is that the GT2871r and the S15 turbo are essentially the same just a differenct CHRA?

http://www.phase2motortrend.com/s15tuvs28.html

Would it be possible to rebuild a T28 to a GT2871r then? If phase2 does it for $300 bucks, well, that might be the cheapest way for 400whp?

[codyace]

cept anyone that REALLY knows - will always choose a 3s over a 4g...

I'm a DSM guy and I can admit when its beaten fair and square. The 3s is a work of art.

3SGTE's are a decent engine for sure. Good buddy of mine has an MR2, and his car runs well...but turbo for turbo, they really don't make as much power (even with cams) as SR's and 4G's do IMO on a 'street motor'. IN regard to 650 hp on pump gas, it's certainly something to 'hold' as a great achievment, but it's certainly not something I would regard as 'a standard' (if that makes any sense)

bill @ dentsport used a TME 6.5 rally turbo with bangbang for a few year but since switched to a 30r.

You mean TR30r? Quite a difference between consumer grade gt30rs for sure. I'd love a tr30r, I'd switch tomorrow for one. BUt the price tag takes the wind out of my sails

[codyace]

Did you notice a big difference when you went to the VE head, or are you talking about you have a spare VE head laying around?

Also...a little off topic, from what I got at the site below is that the GT2871r and the S15 turbo are essentially the same just a differenct CHRA?

S15 Turbo vs. 2871-RS (http://www.phase2motortrend.com/s15tuvs28.html)

Would it be possible to rebuild a T28 to a GT2871r then? If phase2 does it for $300 bucks, well, that might be the cheapest way for 400whp?


S15 and GT2871r are not even close to the same turbo. Different everything (wheels, housings). Could you make a T28 into one? No...you could build it to GTiR spec, but that's really no better than what you're working with in a stock t28 (in regard to dollar per hp..it was popular way back when with our sentras but not so much anymore)

Your best best would be to sell the t28, and then buyt a 2871..

[codyace]

The 4g head does not flow some ridiculous amount, and with the exception of the slightly better - oem forged mahles in the 9 - they use the same piston and rod setup as a 2g.

It would certainly be interesting to see bench numbers on all 3 of the engines.

[bl3ujay07]

So, what I am getting from at least a few people on this post is, if you put a TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T turbo on an SR20det, with maybe some decent cams, you should be getting close to if not at 400whp? If that is the case 400whp just got a bit cheaper.

bl3ujay07 - $300 for a whole new CHRA?

That being the case, wouldn't it be possible to "build" a GT2871r for a heck of a lot less then a new one. Being you are getting a whole new CHRA for $300, all you would have to buy is a compressor and turbine housing, and I am pretty sure you can pick those up for not much more than $300. For that price you can go custom and even have a special turbine housing made that has the external port attached to the outside of the housing.

Buy a blown turbo and send to phase2. When i went there, they said garrett charges them 300 bucks and phase2 is not trying to make money off of it. They are only charging you for the shipping from your place --> phase2 --> garrett vice versa and the cost that garrett charges for the new chra.

[R33E8]

It would certainly be interesting to see bench numbers on all 3 of the engines.

The sr20 and 4g63 both flow similar.. A stock ka24de head actually flows more than stock sr20 and 4g63's heads if I remember correctly..

[smelly240]

NO I do NOT mean a TR30 - he has a normal gt30r. He no longer runs the bangbang.

A b-series outflows a sr or 4g... neither flows that great - they are turbo cars - turbo cars are made to speed air up so they drive all snappy and fun. Remember these are designed around a stock platform. K series and F series (s2k not accord) outflow them even more.

I do not have a spare VE head... It doesnt do anything really for torque - just top end.

[lazysk8er2]

whats the point of the ve head if you can just use the s15 motor with the variable valve timing just make it functional.

people keep bringing up 6 cyl and making good power but the topic is 4 cyl motors.

4g is good im also impressed by the srt4 motors. someone needs to make a mount kit for a 240sx

[guitaraholic]

The S15, and S14's variable valve timing is just cam phasing. the VE actually has two cam profiles (like VTEC and MiVec)

[smelly240]

and the ve head has shaft mounted rockers and flows a lot better... no more superfly rockers.

[ROIDMONKEY]

I'm talking about on stock turbos, not with something like a gt42... And do you have any proof?

a guy down here makes the same power on a stock bottom end .. hes not the only one..lol u not the only one with a evo that make 650 stock just upgrading turbo ... trust me.. 1000 jamaicans down here have evos making 10000000whp

[boosted98gst]

Damn, I just noticed that you are running the HTA37R, if that's the case then :bs: on making over 650whp on pump with no meth, no e85 etc.. If AMS uses the same turbo with race fuel, a 2.3 stroker kit, and makes 720whp then there is no way you are making over 650 on pump with the 2.0..

AMS tests the New Forced Performance HTA37R! - evolutionm.net (http://forums.evolutionm.net/automotosports-illinois/338070-ams-tests-new-forced-performance-hta37r.html)


I made wastegate pressure 573 awhp on pump gas its what the car see's daily, with [email protected] 35psi I made 653awhp and yes it's a 2 liter still with AC full interior, even my stock sub in the back. with vp116 the car made 701awhp. call BS I do not care what some 19 year old kid on the internet says what im lying about. I would not waste my time saying usless bullshit if it was not true, People on here know me and my car in person . Not hard to find my videos on youtube and burshur's site. I took my video's down I have no idea why im even wasting my time trying to prove something. If I would list the cars I own and the homes I own, im sure people would call bullshit too, I have haters in real life too nothing new.

[S14_Kouki]

The evo turbo's are bad ass I currently am running the evo 8.5 on my sr running 26psi and its fast. Never dyno'ed it but im sure its around 400whp. This is my friend's evo runnning the 8.5 turbo with ONLY cosworth head everything else stock on 26 psi he ran a 11.9 and he was prob only at 380 awhp.

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[boosted98gst]

I should of stated these videos are almost 2 1/2 years old now, im still running the similar set up. I have learned a lot in the past years with the cars. And no the car did not see 42 on gasoline pump I should of stated that better. Yes @ 42 psi the car makes a lot more power then the car @ 30 psi or 27psi wastegate pressure. The car still goes around 10.6-10.8's @ and traps 140ish on just wastegate pressure. You can see in the video were my inline BC was fucked and the car went I think 10.7's. When the car is running 42+ psi its on vp fuel.

[codyace]

NO I do NOT mean a TR30 - he has a normal gt30r. He no longer runs the bangbang.


That's news to me, as they did have a tr30 on there. Been a while since I saw that car in person though (well a year haha)

I still would love to see a flow comparison. It would shock me to see a 3s flow well, as 'assuming all the same' they never seem to tmake the power SR's do. We put a 28RS on a friends car and it was downright boring. Throw it on a Sentra or even a S13 and it's a smile machine.

[boosted98gst]

Damn, I just noticed that you are running the HTA37R, if that's the case then :bs: on making over 650whp on pump with no meth, no e85 etc.. If AMS uses the same turbo with race fuel, a 2.3 stroker kit, and makes 720whp then there is no way you are making over 650 on pump with the 2.0..

AMS tests the New Forced Performance HTA37R! - evolutionm.net (http://forums.evolutionm.net/automotosports-illinois/338070-ams-tests-new-forced-performance-hta37r.html)

You realize his car is a 8 and mine is a mivec9 car right?
You realize more people are making more power on 2 liter evo from RPM's then 2.3 liters. Why do you think all the big dog evo and dsm's are 2 liter still? You posted Dave Bruzewski's a car that lasted a whole 25 days, never made one 9 second pass. You realize there are guys making 900awhp on this turbo right? guys running mid 8's blah blah I can go on.
www.dsmtimes.com (http://www.dsmtimes.com) look at all the 2 liter cars:) I really do not think my 653 awhp pump gas title is still around anyways, I think mark myers beat it a year or so ago, but it still does hold the burshur dyno's power for pump gas 9.

[Z33dori]

theres a kid here at my school who was make around 650whp on 110 and HTA35R, built bottom

now on E85 and some 40psi it makes about 720whp... evo 8

[boosted98gst]

theres a kid here at my school who was make around 650whp on 110 and HTA35R, built bottom

now on E85 and some 40psi it makes about 720whp... evo 8

Really who is it? If he really makes that power on a HTA35 he nows has the highest hp hta35r in the world lol. Please do not tell me this is from UNO because Ive never met so many bullshitters that went to one school in my life( no offense). Here pm me your number I am in wakeman right now on my way back down to columbus I will stop in lima if I can meet this person .

If he is making that type of power he will have proof , its just weird I am at burshur's almost every week and we know or have worked on most the fast cars in the area, I personally have never herd of this HTA35 making 720 whp not saying its not possible but I want to see the car. It can only be prolly 3 people off the top of my head. It gets slimer and slimer of street cars in ohio making over 700 whp

[boosted98gst]

theres a kid here at my school who was make around 650whp on 110 and HTA35R, built bottom

now on E85 and some 40psi it makes about 720whp... evo 8


If he is making 720whp there is only few AWD dyno's in ohio that he can go too!

[smelly240]

That's news to me, as they did have a tr30 on there. Been a while since I saw that car in person though (well a year haha)

I still would love to see a flow comparison. It would shock me to see a 3s flow well, as 'assuming all the same' they never seem to tmake the power SR's do. We put a 28RS on a friends car and it was downright boring. Throw it on a Sentra or even a S13 and it's a smile machine.

he never had a tr30 on it - its a ts 3076r.

[codyace]

he never had a tr30 on it - its a ts 3076r.

I don't have the time to search, but it was directly from a thread on here. But then again memorizing things like this isn't my forte....but I'm the same guy that memorizes load sequences from Miller Brewing and load schedules lol (the joys of truckign companies) haha.

[s14unimog]

The SR can make over 400 with a 20G, no problem. I put down 394, with problems, at a little over 18psi. I'm not sure what the TD05 flows in comparison but those turbo's are good for a lot of boost.

[boosted98gst]

he never had a tr30 on it - its a ts 3076r.

I know the sr's that are built with decent head mod's can spin decent turbos well up top. There are a lot of guys on here wit hthe 3076 with stock block and mild head mods in the 400's right? The evo9 turbo on a mild setup sr20 would make a great track/autox type turbo I feel. Do you know anyone personally or from zilvia running any type of HTA turbo on any type of nissan turbo?

[Z33dori]

If he is making 720whp there is only few AWD dyno's in ohio that he can go too!

he sucks Buschur Racing cock for a living.....

[PoorMans180SX]

Okay, so this thread has gone way too far off topic.

Everyone can stop comparing engines, as it's dumb. Every engine has it's ups and downs.

The reason stock evo turbos can flow 400hp with little lag is because they're big enough and twin-scroll. It's not that hard to figure out.

LOCK IT UP.

[boosted98gst]

Okay, so this thread has gone way too far off topic.

Everyone can stop comparing engines, as it's dumb. Every engine has it's ups and downs.

The reason stock evo turbos can flow 400hp with little lag is because they're big enough and twin-scroll. It's not that hard to figure out.

LOCK IT UP.

Most of them that make over or around 400whp are not stock turbo's and are upgraded. A very common class for dsm/evo drag racing is the "stock appearing" all the turbos are ported out, and then the exhaust housing is swapped to the FQ 10.5 hotside, then depending on set up the turbo is clipped. The white rabbit or upgraded 9 turbo cost around 1200-1400 bucks. Unless the car came with the evo9 turbo stock they still go for a decent amount because they did not import that many evo9's in 06-07, prolly better off just buying some type of aftermarket turbo.

[S13 curtis]

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8072/hpboost.jpg


SR20 with Evo 9 16G, and stock cams i'd say these are pretty good numbers for a dyno dynamics.

[DataXUnknown]

My buddy just dynoed his evo recently...went past 400whp on e85 with the stock IX turbo.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs188.snc3/19557_1300299980016_1005913726_30958125_7448807_n. jpg

[guitaraholic]

One thing I have noticed is that 4g63's seem to spool up 16g's a bit better than our sr20's

[240sxwangjack]

That turbo is a 20g on the newer cars that's y its able to handle that power and its Twin scroll and the bottom end of the unit is cast block and not to bad for factory setup on the east coast i have seen 520 out of these with the right supporting mods( injector, front mount cams exhaust and really good tuner) forgot the meth++++ and AEM

[guitaraholic]

I thought the Evos only came with TD05-16g turbos, that the cold side was made bigger, but the hot was pretty much unaltered.

Turbo tech...( Evos turbos 16g, 20g etc) - Turbo-Owners.com (http://www.turbo-owners.com/forum/general-tech/282-turbo-tech-evos-turbos-16g-20g-etc.html)

[240sxwangjack]

the older ones

[Carbomb]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198403_1308857536971_1696561029_559185_7037466_n.j pg

Ev09 turbo 11psi rips tires off.

[volgapower]

hi all
i am thinking of installing EVO IX turbo into my sr20 redtop,
can anyone tell me is it laggy to compare with T28/GT28s ??? the car is supposed to be a drifter... goal around 300whp.
and one more question. where can i buy Cometics head gasket to reduce the CR?

[turbronegro]

It's twin scroll and reverse rotation.

[Tom N]

hi all
i am thinking of installing EVO IX turbo into my sr20 redtop,
can anyone tell me is it laggy to compare with T28/GT28s ??? the car is supposed to be a drifter... goal around 300whp.
and one more question. where can i buy Cometics head gasket to reduce the CR?

It's not laggy at all. Quite the contrary.
Why in the world would you want to reduce stock compression though?

If your goal is 300hp you don't need to fab up a Evo 8/9 turbo. Just buy a bolt on 16g.