rb25 freddy manifold issue.. water neck doesnt fit?

[burninskulls0911]

i just got a freddy intake manifold for my rb25
well in the box the water neck wasnt pressed in, it was separate.
when i went to press it in it was loose.. like it falls right in..
has anyone else has this issue?
and how would i go about getting this to work?

heres a picture of the manifold i got
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/6/2/1/6/4/5/webimg/276287934_o.jpg

as you can see the water neck is just chillin out there

[Ceepo]

Tap it if you can and put a brass barb fitting in it the size of the hose....

[PoorMans180SX]

Wait...you bought a knock-off and are surprised that it lacks quality?...hmmm.....

[novita1021]

LMAO!!! true very true..
Wait...you bought a knock-off and are surprised that it lacks quality?...hmmm.....

[DJDANGER24]

haha i 3rd that motion...best you can do is buy a hose that fits right on that fitting, and hope that the hose provided fits over that and clamp it down like a mo'fo. ORRRRR buy a genuine GReddy mani and call it a day.

[theslows13]

Wait, Freddy's aren't legit?
:hahano:

[Enna]

Another idiot being cheap. Also shouldn't this be in tech?

[burninskulls0911]

Tap it if you can and put a brass barb fitting in it the size of the hose....
thats more than likely what ill end up doing..
just seeing if anyone else had this issue

Wait...you bought a knock-off and are surprised that it lacks quality?...hmmm.....
more like my friend had it laying around his shop

haha i 3rd that motion...best you can do is buy a hose that fits right on that fitting, and hope that the hose provided fits over that and clamp it down like a mo'fo. ORRRRR buy a genuine GReddy mani and call it a day.
and its the radiator hose

Another idiot being cheap. Also shouldn't this be in tech?
Excuse me?
I'm an idiot?
I'm sorry that I am going to school full time and working when i can, and i don't have enough money to buy a $800 manifold.
How the fuck does that make me an idiot?

[180love]

mine was like that.. i put JB weld on the out side of the peice that slides in the manifold and set it in.. wait 24 hrs and shell be golden.. i havent any leaking problems of any kind..

lol at all the comments.. so much negativity.. if you arent helping.. dont post.

[Enna]

Cars take money. If you don't have it then don't complain why your knockoff failed.

[lazysk8er2]

mine was like that.. i put JB weld on the out side of the peice that slides in the manifold and set it in.. wait 24 hrs and shell be golden.. i havent any leaking problems of any kind..

lol at all the comments.. so much negativity.. if you arent helping.. dont post.


i wouldnt mess with the cooling system like that. do it right the first time or dont do it at all.

the negativity is because if your dumping loads of money into a project and half assing it just makes the community and yourself look bad.

[Flaco S14]

Unless you guys have tried fucking with this manifold, plz dont give your stupid opinions about the Knock off crap!
I have a manifold just like this and had the same problem! my solution was to simply put JB weld on the slide in tube and push it in and leave it there to dry. If you clean the surface of both parts before putting jb weld in you will be fine. GSXJordan from here also did the same thing but added a little fitting that went through the manifold and slide in tube that worked as his return fitting from his PBM water reservoir thing.

MY KNOCKOFF FREDDY MAKING 400HP!
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/flaco125/newenginebay2.jpg

[GSXRJJordan]

mine was like that.. i put JB weld on the out side of the peice that slides in the manifold and set it in.. wait 24 hrs and shell be golden.. i havent any leaking problems of any kind..

lol at all the comments.. so much negativity.. if you arent helping.. dont post.

Exactly.

i wouldnt mess with the cooling system like that. do it right the first time or dont do it at all.

the negativity is because if your dumping loads of money into a project and half assing it just makes the community and yourself look bad.

Haha, ok pimp juice. The real greddy manifold has a very similar problem, and in my experience has very similar casting quality (# of aberrations and porosity).

Unless you guys have tried fucking with this manifold, plz dont give your stupid opinions about the Knock off crap!
I have a manifold just like this and had the same problem! my solution was to simply put JB weld on the slide in tube and push it in and leave it there to dry. If you clean the surface of both parts before putting jb weld in you will be fine. GSXJordan from here also did the same thing but added a little fitting that went through the manifold and slide in tube that worked as his return fitting from his PBM water reservoir thing.

MY KNOCKOFF FREDDY MAKING 400HP!

Yup, the idea is that there's no appreciable pressure (radiator cap is 15psi or so), JB weld is plenty strong given the amount of surface area you have to work with. Make sure the inside is clean (I used acetone), and if you're going to drill and tap for a bleeder valve make sure you line up the hole you drill in the adapter to the hole you drill/tap in the manifold.
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p1p1ThL2mmEtK3v-tg1jUDCKMtz1HmLeGFkZxk7er0LFC_Qux9k7dE4tT6foU8hHEF i4EwJ8lXOc1QgifcC7OPA/DSC06030.jpg
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p9DJo_KKhyFGgMoEkgnHkL0bqNNFpR4G6aXRCo9isI0SrSci SriAvp-hNAGlsEkeJL9LyNyMRchY2VzkMmfDkDg/DSC06033.jpg

... and the whole engine bay, just for shits and giggles:
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pWvuoYqJLmLLqosQKEDuD3xJOt4u3uUUH7Rc1kptsfC7-fuCpcuQ_bSZtaVdHUFEoM5w8CUaYmJ_ykSVE4Shlgg/DSC06119.jpg

.... oh god, it works! lol
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[ShiftedFrame]

The only stupid people here are the ones that justify paying a ridiculously large sum of money for an intake manifold that is mass produced. For the price of a NEW greddy manifold for an RB25DET, you can get a custom one made to suit your goals and needs. Lastly, I highly doubt any of you douches even have RBs or have an understanding of how difficult it is to locate and get parts in a timely manner. So if you have nothing to contribute shut the fuck up and click the x. You guys are the reason this scene and community is beginning to suck. Bunch of snot nose punks who are quick with their bullshit "pseudo intelligent wit".

/rant.

OP- On nico forums in the RB section they discuss how to solve this problem. If you do a search it should come up. Also on the GTRCanada forum and some of the Aussie forums.

[OBEEWON]

Wow at the ammount of fools in here. Especially the idiot saying not to mess with the cooling system. LOL. The Greddy manifolds have the exact problem. I just ran into this last night. Im going the JB weld route.

Oh yeah, and here is a very excelent way to not have to tap for a bleeder. Use the stock bleeder.

http://hem.spray.se/martin_dahlberg/skyline.se/water_bleed.jpg
http://hem.spray.se/martin_dahlberg/skyline.se/plenum_install.jpg


A bomb thread of Aussies installing http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/to-Greddy-style-Plenum-t181826.html&st=160

[RyanHampton]

The JB Weld trick will work. We use it to seal high pressure fittings that are at 300 psi. and run at 180 degrees. Coolant temps will never reach even close to that pressure. JB Weld = magic goo.

[GSXRJJordan]

Wow at the ammount of fools in here. Especially the idiot saying not to mess with the cooling system. LOL. The Greddy manifolds have the exact problem. I just ran into this last night. Im going the JB weld route.

Oh yeah, and here is a very excelent way to not have to tap for a bleeder. Use the stock bleeder.

A bomb thread of Aussies installing How-to: Greddy-style Plenum Install - Skylines Australia (http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/to-Greddy-style-Plenum-t181826.html&st=160)

That's not the stock bleeder, per se. The bleeder actually is up on the top of the intake manifold, and with the stock manifold can pull air from the head ~ because water flows through the intake manifold into the head the port you circled is nowhere near the 'top' - this was my thinking, anyway, when I drilled and tapped for my fitting.

[OBEEWON]

Well you just mount the whole bleeder screw assembly higher than any coolant level as it would be when bolted to the stock manifold. Thats just the routing in the photo. Not my photo to take credit btw.

[tooslick]

Is the water neck steel?? If not, why don't you all just do it right and weld it together?? its not expensive to do so, maybe $60??? And if it is steel, it would be just as easy as going to home depot and buying some aluminum pipe, and the same shop that would weld if for you should have a tool to flange the tip.

[GSXRJJordan]

Is the water neck steel?? If not, why don't you all just do it right and weld it together?? its not expensive to do so, maybe $60??? And if it is steel, it would be just as easy as going to home depot and buying some aluminum pipe, and the same shop that would weld if for you should have a tool to flange the tip.

Mine came chromed, and I didn't want to strip it just to weld on the neck.

Cast aluminum's no walk in the park to weld either ~ and nothing would make me feel like more of a failure than JB welding a fitting that I had already TIG'd lol.

[lazysk8er2]

this is so wierd and eye opening i why dont theyfix this. is there a reason that greddy and freddy and all the john doe copy cats do it this way?

i dont have an rb just curious.

[burninskulls0911]

i dont know why i didnt think of this before..
i have a friend thats a fabricator and welder.

so i ended up doing a little more than jb weld
we took that steel piece that comes with the manifold and made an exact copy on the lathe and then welded it in..

so for me this manifold has still been about free..
so id say for sure better than spending 800 on a greddy manifold that has the same issue

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/burninskulls0911/Y29udGVudDovL21lZGlhL2V4dGVybmFs-21.jpg

thanks for the advice from the people that weren't douche bags

[HS13KLS]

im glad that worked out for you!!
p.s your friend can roll some dimes!!! that weld looks really good!

[burninskulls0911]

im glad that worked out for you!!
p.s your friend can roll some dimes!!! that weld looks really good!
yeah hes an awesome welder

and thanks!

[boosted98gst]

do not feel bad, I have a shitty greddy and the same fitting does the same damn thing. I did the same thing and welded it. People that really think greddy is any better have no idea or have yet to work with one. I personally can not tell from the isis and from my legit greddy. ISIS has come far, people say the casting is ruff and the one I seen was as good as my greddy. Plus a buddy of mine is using the ISIS and made 596whp out of his so cant be that bad!

[OBEEWON]

Yeah stupid brand name jocking fanboys need to kick rocks on the cereal tip.

[datboibrad]

am i the only one that thinks greddy's quality of products (especially electronics) are no better than the ebay knockoffs or hell even APC for that matter?

glad you got that water neck situation worked out. weld job looks solid!

[DJDANGER24]

Yeah stupid brand name jocking fanboys need to kick rocks on the cereal tip.sorry, i guess i would rather save some more money and pay for the name brand shit thats been around for a while and got it all started for these other companies. Call me stupid i guess, but at the end of the day, theres one less thing for me to worry about when im driving around town.
OP, glad it worked out for you, but this is a forum and you will always get negative feedback regardless of what the subject is. its just some people would rather pay a few extra bucks for parts that are proven to work for many years.

[datboibrad]

sorry, i guess i would rather save some more money and pay for the name brand shit thats been around for a while and got it all started for these other companies. Call me stupid i guess, but at the end of the day, theres one less thing for me to worry about when im driving around town.
OP, glad it worked out for you, but this is a forum and you will always get negative feedback regardless of what the subject is. its just some people would rather pay a few extra bucks for parts that are proven to work for many years.

point of the story really is do your research. even big name brands make shit parts that people buy anyway just cause of the name. dont let a name be your sole reason in buying a part.

[KoukiMonsta]

damn dood that shit turned out sexy -__-

[OBEEWON]

Exactly. Many companies run thier factories after hours and knock of thier OWN STUFF. Case in point Rocket Bunny was planning on knocking off thier own stuff and selling it in the US under a different name.

There is no one knocking quality. Only people blindly buying name brand parts. Ive held up name brand parts to no name and found the no name to be of better quality and vice versa. Just be an informed buyer.

Some of my worst purchases were expensive name brand parts that failed.

[burninskulls0911]

damn dood that shit turned out sexy -__-
oh its even better now

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs153.snc3/18058_310948570277_591320277_4677066_2359442_n.jpg

[juve_240sx]

oh its even better now

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs153.snc3/18058_310948570277_591320277_4677066_2359442_n.jpg


looks great. very nice work bro

[OBEEWON]

Nice, paint or powder?


Has anyone had any issues getting the stock fuel rail/injectors to line up in the holes?

[GSXRJJordan]

Has anyone had any issues getting the stock fuel rail/injectors to line up in the holes?

Yeah, a little bit. When I was making my fuel rail (lopped the ends off, cleaned it all up, and welded -6AN fittings on) I must have put em on and off 4 or 5 times, and the stock insulators (rubber washers) tore. Make sure the insides are lubed up really well with clean engine oil, and be careful when torquing them down evenly (I prodded the insulators with a blunt screwdriver to help the fuel rail 'seat' correctly).

[OBEEWON]

Good look. I even had a problem with my SR manifold fitting. Im going to redo mine tonight and lube it. I hear vasaline works wonders.

[burninskulls0911]

Nice, paint or powder?


Has anyone had any issues getting the stock fuel rail/injectors to line up in the holes?
ill let you know how it goes tomorrow when i install it..
and ill be sure to lube it up nice and good ;)

[supersayianjim]

bump, why because this effects me right now!!

[fliprayzin240sx]

bump, why because this effects me right now!!

So you bumped a 3 yr old thread to show the world you're a retard? Congrats...you WIN!!!