Anybody runnin a GT35R?

[XnTroubleX]

Well im lookin for some constructive feedback, Im debating between the 30 or the 35? Post up your thoughts and include why, Im not looking for a response like: 30R, cause its dope!! Fail!! im not building a drag car or a drift car, its just gonna be a toy to play with on the weekends, What yall think?

[juiced305diesel]

Dont buy either. Try a billet PTE5857 Dual BB air cooled or a PTE6262. The PTE 5857 Spools like a 30r but makes 650RWHP. The PTE6262 spools like a 35r but has made 780 AWHP. I have a 35R on my red daily these turbo are just out dated. Garrett just introduced there Billet GTX lineup but we havent gotten a chance to test them out yet.

[thisisthenewsic]

well if your looking for a fun car to play around with on the streets personally id go with a 30r. you can easily get 350whp out of a 30r or even 400 depending on supporting mods
350 to 400 is deffinately enough for the streets.
but as for a 35r if you do a twin scroll it will be around the same spool as a 30r single scroll. just more top end.

i have a datsun 510 which i plan to go ka-t in in the near future.
its my daily and i was planning on doing a twin scroll 30r on it.

[XnTroubleX]

Dont buy either. Try a billet PTE5857 Dual BB air cooled or a PTE6262. The PTE 5857 Spools like a 30r but makes 650RWHP. The PTE6262 spools like a 35r but has made 780 AWHP. I have a 35R on my red daily these turbo are just out dated. Garrett just introduced there Billet GTX lineup but we havent gotten a chance to test them out yet.
How much did you make with your 35R, and what manifold did you use?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Well im lookin for some constructive feedback, Im debating between the 30 or the 35? Post up your thoughts and include why, Im not looking for a response like: 30R, cause its dope!! Fail!! im not building a drag car or a drift car, its just gonna be a toy to play with on the weekends, What yall think?

Need to be more specific on what you want to do with the car. I'm running a GT3582R. You run a 35R and the car wont be responsive and you can pretty much throw drifting and gymkhana out of your vocabulary. Its laggy, wont see it fully spooled till 5k ballpark.

I'm running 1.4-1.5 bar right now and thats my low boost setup. High boost is at 1.8-2.0 bar. I have yet to play on since I cant get any traction even with the low boost setup.

[S13 curtis]

Fuck that, go with a PTE6262, the compressor wheel is nasty.

Precision makes great turbos,or even a PT6765 and they spool fast for their size.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oIwbwPcGr2o/SYg7y6wxRqI/AAAAAAAAAiY/bC7nv7PuEzk/s400/Billet-compressor-wheel.jpg
http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo279/awdmotorsports/pte672.jpg

Good for up to 40psi and can make 450+ @ 20-22psi so it leaves you with alot of head room, IMO if i ever upgrade from my 2871r i will go with the PT6262.

[XnTroubleX]

Fuck that, go with a PTE6262, the compressor wheel is nasty.

Precision makes great turbos,or even a PT6765 and they spool fast for their size.
im still a newb so dont flame but I just searched "PTE6262" and i went to a few of the results but there was no part number or model number that matched, am I searching wrong or what,

[S13 curtis]

jus make sure u have engine management and injectors along with proper mods.
here you go EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts - Precision T & E HP6262R Ball Bearing Billet T3/T4 Turbocharger: 680 HP (http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=22527&cat=1653&page=1) and with the T04SP compressor housing is a must looks like the pic i showed above.

[s15specR]

I'm running the HP6262 right now, with a .63 A/R vband exit, bought it earlier this year. Love it.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/tripleJs15/Car/img083.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/tripleJs15/Car/IMG_1603.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/tripleJs15/Car/IMG_1601.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/tripleJs15/Car/IMG_1602.jpg

[s15specR]

Wastegate setup.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/tripleJs15/Car/IMG_1604.jpg

Current setup (cell phone pic)
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/tripleJs15/Car/CIMG0026-1.jpg

[lewisfk]

jus make sure u have engine management and injectors along with proper mods.
here you go EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts - Precision T & E HP6262R Ball Bearing Billet T3/T4 Turbocharger: 680 HP (http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=22527&cat=1653&page=1) and with the T04SP compressor housing is a must looks like the pic i showed above.

Hey man thanks for posting that link! I;m looking at purchasing one of those turbos! Have u heard any thing bad about them, OR are they cooler than the other side of the pillow?

[juiced305diesel]

Hey man thanks for posting that link! I;m looking at purchasing one of those turbos! Have u heard any thing bad about them, OR are they cooler than the other side of the pillow?

Guys i can get them at a decent price PM me if you guys need any thing. We made 800RWHP on a PTE6765 on the shop car and this alot more left !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GSXRJJordan]

The Garrett billet turbos are GT42+, only large frame.

The precision 62mm are huge... definitely wouldn't recommend them to anyone who's interested in road racing or drift/autox.

I would be down for a 62 if they had a ~.80 divided t4 exhaust housing for twin-scroll... anyone know if a standard Garrett GT3582 turbine housing works?

[juiced305diesel]

The Garrett billet turbos are GT42+, only large frame.

The precision 62mm are huge... definitely wouldn't recommend them to anyone who's interested in road racing or drift/autox.

I would be down for a 62 if they had a ~.80 divided t4 exhaust housing for twin-scroll... anyone know if a standard Garrett GT3582 turbine housing works?

Garrett will be introducing more models very shortly.

PTE 6262 isnt much bigger than a 35R.

You should check out the PTE5857 if your worried about spool.

[Walperstyle]

You have to do research on turbos in many areas. Volume, compressor, and overall physical size (to clear BMC). I was myself thinking gt35 external wastegate for my KA-T project. I'm in the same boat with the same goals.

450-600hp, Porsche Destroyer.

This thread is pretty good. Precision has some nice ones too.

[XnTroubleX]

Guys i can get them at a decent price PM me if you guys need any thing. We made 800RWHP on a PTE6765 on the shop car and this alot more left !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey i tried to PM you but it stated that your mailbox was full!!

[XnTroubleX]

You have to do research on turbos in many areas. Volume, compressor, and overall physical size (to clear BMC). I was myself thinking gt35 external wastegate for my KA-T project. I'm in the same boat with the same goals.

450-600hp, Porsche Destroyer.

This thread is pretty good. Precision has some nice ones too.
I was thinking the 35 myself!! Thats most likely what I an going to go with!

[juiced305diesel]

Hey i tried to PM you but it stated that your mailbox was full!!

Ok good to go now! :rofl:

[S13 curtis]

I was thinking the 35 myself!! Thats most likely what I an going to go with!
dont do that, get the PTE billet series turbos you will thank me and juiced305 for recommending it later.GT35r is really outdated precision is ahead of the game and have been proving themselves for years the 35r is like 150whp less and spools later.

[juiced305diesel]

dont do that, get the PTE billet series turbos you will thank me and juiced305 for recommending it later.GT35r is really outdated precision is ahead of the game and have been proving themselves for years the 35r is like 150whp less and spools later.

Yes sir...Log on to the Evo forums . There ahead of the game. Mike at AWD Motorsports made 930RWHP on the PTE6765 T3 and ran 8s. We made 8000RWHP with alot more left in the turbo.

[GSXRJJordan]

Garrett will be introducing more models very shortly.

PTE 6262 isnt much bigger than a 35R.

You should check out the PTE5857 if your worried about spool.

Interesting! I have accounts with Garrett and Turbonetics, but not Precision :/

Any news on divided T4 housing for twin-scroll?

[XnTroubleX]

good information guys, thanks!!

[tkocrewsr]

my question is how is the spool with the 5857 vs the TS.78 housing from garrett my personal setup i have a comp turbo 58mm comp wheel but they offer a .84 A/R TS T3 exhaust housing option.So what im saying is that my turbo has the TS charateristics but has a little bigger A/R for me to be able to rev higher with out as much back pressure,but my car isn't done yet so i havent tested anything.My question is where should you see full spool with pt5857 with a .63 housng.I do have a F-R T3 TS mani btw.

[tkocrewsr]

anyone have any input?

[DrIvEsldEwAyS]

i have a 35r and love it. havent turned my boost controller on yet due to needing injectors but the turbo spools good and i make over 450 on 16psi.

[XnTroubleX]

Ok thanks for the input guys, but here are a few other questions, I was told that precision was just a garrett turbo with a few things changed on the inside with a precision stamp on them, also, I am getting input tellin me to go with the new borg warner line, the BW 300 series, I know BW has been around for a very long time and have a good reputation but was also told that they are more applicable for high rpm cars and not SR motors. I know that everyone has a biased opinion as why they choose what they do but if you do reply with an opinion add detailed reasons why! Thanks everyone!!

[tkocrewsr]

as far as the precisions being a garrett i believe your true on that its just like the forced performance hta compressor wheels,basically a garrett with a billet wheel and comp housing to suit.With th BW turbos i have friends that swear by them i do not,but it doesnt mean they aren't a great turbo.From the research i have obtained is that the billet wheels benefit more in the above 25psi range upto40-50.To educate people that dont know the comp turbo turbos are always upgradeable/downgradeable which made my decision to go with them.You can choose what turbine wheel comp wheel and offered housing style.The chra is aluminum and the bearing is a three part ceramic ball bearing.heres a link to there site the polishing job is also top notch just like the site. Comp Turbo (http://www.compturbo.com/)

[tkocrewsr]

the thing i would like to know is how much better is the spool with the PT billet turbos then standard,if true then the PT billet and the FP HTA wheels just flow more air per min then standard wheels while maintaining the same wheel size or smaller.Thing i dont like is that they dont offer a TS housing option on a T3 bigger than .78.Which is why i wish comp turbo would offer a billet comp wheel soon because they have a .84 TS T3 housing.


If you do plan on getting a 30 or 35r research billet wheel wether it be a precision or sending a standard garrett to Forced performance for the billet wheel and housing,but the pro to the PT turbos is the ceramic ball bearings.

[speedfiend]

Im am in the market for a new turbo for my S14 SR build and have been tossing around the gt3076 and gt35r. Now I am kinda interested in looking into these pte turbos. Does anyone know where I could find some compressor maps for these turbo's? It would be much appreciated. Thanx, Cameron

[Xracer]

You should look into the HTA series turbos from Forced Performance. They are Garrett GT turbos with a custom billet compressor wheel. They spool faster than the standard garrett turbos and flow better tool. I have a GT3582HTA on my RB25 and its amazing. The response is excellent and Its making about 300whp on 8psi right now.

[GSXRJJordan]

This thread has made me question my GT3582 .78 divided T4 choice. I'm now thinking about putting that same divided housing on a PTE 6057 (7-blade billet wheel instead of the 6-blade 5857, since I won't be playing at 40psi) and mating it up with the same twin-scroll mani. I'm a dealer for Treadstone Performance, so I'm researching my cost on this over the holidays.

Im am in the market for a new turbo for my S14 SR build and have been tossing around the gt3076 and gt35r. Now I am kinda interested in looking into these pte turbos. Does anyone know where I could find some compressor maps for these turbo's? It would be much appreciated. Thanx, Cameron

No one seems to have maps for the Billet series Precisions - whenever people ask, their main dealers point to dyno sheets and quarter mile times lol. They're obviously most popular with the hardcore crowd.

You should look into the HTA series turbos from Forced Performance. They are Garrett GT turbos with a custom billet compressor wheel. They spool faster than the standard garrett turbos and flow better tool. I have a GT3582HTA on my RB25 and its amazing. The response is excellent and Its making about 300whp on 8psi right now.

I'd love to see a complete mod list and dyno sheet, as that's one of the turbos I was considering also. The HTA GT35 has a 61mm wheel right?

[tkocrewsr]

I believe the HTA35 does have the 61mm wheel,The PTE billet turbos are the HTA technology so its up to you where you would want to go.The HTA turbos spool faster and and flow more air per min than standard,but Precision uses ceramic bearings which also helps spool.So the PTE turbos have the best of both worlds but they do not offer twin scroll housing options but if they are in fact a garrett the .78 should fit fine.

No one seems to have maps for the Billet series Precisions - whenever people ask, their main dealers (http://zilvia.net/f/#) point to dyno sheets and quarter mile times lol. They're obviously most popular with the hardcore crowd.
When I called Precision to get more info they tell you that there are just too many variables for each turbo to provide compressor maps for the turbo(which i think is crap),but they are right look at the track times and dyno sheets.

I'm now thinking about putting that same divided housing on a PTE 6057 (7-blade billet wheel instead of the 6-blade 5857
If you are really looking into this to keep cost down if you send your garrett to Forced Performance they can rebuild and put the billet wheel and new compressor housing on your existing 35r and its relatively cheap,not sure about the rebuild but it was 550 for a brand new 30r i was gonna send in.The PTE turbos do have ceramic bearings now it more a decision you'll have to make.

[juiced305diesel]

I like this people are seeing the light!!!!

[S13 curtis]

Precision>Garrett

I wish they made a PTE version of the GT2871r, it would be nasty.

[VQMaxFan]

I heard a rumor that precision no longer has a contract w/ garret on center sections and is now using inferior quality ones. Not to mention i have heard horror stories about their customer service. Anyone buy a turbo from them recently??? Im just curious because i have been looking at getting a pte6262 w/ tax money.

[sunnys14]

I didn't know they made a .78AR T4 version? I've only seen that available in T3 size and the only T4 size they have is a 1.06AR.

[J40sx]

I like where this tread is going

[Big Zee]

for just a weekend warrior, I would suggest the gt3071r turbo. it'll give you the power you want along with a moderatly light car so whatever you do on the weekends you'll be set.

[boosted98gst]

You should look into the HTA series turbos from Forced Performance. They are Garrett GT turbos with a custom billet compressor wheel. They spool faster than the standard garrett turbos and flow better tool. I have a GT3582HTA on my RB25 and its amazing. The response is excellent and Its making about 300whp on 8psi right now.


I am running a FP HTA 37R on my evo.

YouTube - Buschur pump gas Evo's at the track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVjIjobgA5g) 100% pump gas

[boosted98gst]

I am running a FP HTA 37R on my evo.

YouTube - Buschur pump gas Evo's at the track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVjIjobgA5g) 100% pump gas

First day out at the track was running mid 130's car has gone 9's now and has run the best of mph 145mph, I still have AC and factory sub in the back truck. My rb coupe will prolly be getting something similar

[tkocrewsr]

I am running a FP HTA 37R on my evo.
the HTA technology is really stout,are you happy with the performance and spool being a larger frame turbo.

[Omarius Maximus]

for just a weekend warrior, I would suggest the gt3071r turbo. it'll give you the power you want along with a moderatly light car so whatever you do on the weekends you'll be set.

this is the most reasonable advice I've heard so far.

I would stick to 35r or 5857 if you want big power but lag. 6262 is retarded. You need a built head so you can rev it and get a decent powerband. laggy laggy laggy. Probably wouldn't spool in the first couple of gears on stock rev limit.

[juiced305diesel]

The PTE 6262 spoosl very well and isnt laggy at all. But then again i dont drift. lmfao...

[juiced305diesel]

I heard a rumor that precision no longer has a contract w/ garret on center sections and is now using inferior quality ones. Not to mention i have heard horror stories about their customer service. Anyone buy a turbo from them recently??? Im just curious because i have been looking at getting a pte6262 w/ tax money.

PTE customer service is great it is true that PTE no longer uses there center sections from Garrett. That quality and performance are second to none. There the best turbo on the market. Who else but PTE has made 930AWHP on a t3 turbo?

[boosted98gst]

the HTA technology is really stout,are you happy with the performance and spool being a larger frame turbo.


performance wise im now trapping 151 mph so I think that speaks for the turbo itselt, its a 100% street car. no cage, everything factory even has my factory sub in the back!!

Yeah im very happy with it, I ended up squeezing out 650 awhp on pump gas, the car is an awesome fun daily on nice days for me. You can see videos of it online or youtube, pretty standard engine build nothing really special, my car was somewhat a factory freak car I still think its the highest awhp pump gas hta car in the states right now still, not that its a big deal to me. My rb will get a HTA no doubt about it.

[tkocrewsr]

performance wise im now trapping 151 mph so I think that speaks for the turbo itselt, its a 100% street car. no cage, everything factory even has my factory sub in the back!!

Yeah im very happy with it, I ended up squeezing out 650 awhp on pump gas, the car is an awesome fun daily on nice days for me. You can see videos of it online or youtube, pretty standard engine build nothing really special, my car was somewhat a factory freak car I still think its the highest awhp pump gas hta car in the states right now still, not that its a big deal to me. My rb will get a HTA no doubt about it.

Thats cool glad to here the success but what exhaust manifold and turbine housing are you running as i'm kinda gathering info Because my girl has a 9MR and we want to upgrade soon not that big of course.More like 450-500 whp but congrats.

[GSXRJJordan]

I found that Precision doesn't do any twin scroll (divided) T3 or T4 housings, and since they don't use Garrett center sections any more, I can't slap the .78 a/r twin scroll housing on a PTE6057, so that's out.

My new plan is Turbonetics based, 62mm wheel (instead of 60mm like the PTE6057 or 61mm like the Garrett GT35R - I believe its 61mm anyway), divided T3 turbine housing, ceramic ball bearing, and 4" v-band exit - since I'm a dealer for Turbonetics, this is better for me anyway. I'll update when it's built.

[S13 curtis]

I found that Precision doesn't do any twin scroll (divided) T3 or T4 housings, and since they don't use Garrett center sections any more, I can't slap the .78 a/r twin scroll housing on a PTE6057, so that's out.

My new plan is Turbonetics based, 62mm wheel (instead of 60mm like the PTE6057 or 61mm like the Garrett GT35R - I believe its 61mm anyway), divided T3 turbine housing, ceramic ball bearing, and 4" v-band exit - since I'm a dealer for Turbonetics, this is better for me anyway. I'll update when it's built.

GT-K series?

[s15specR]

PTE customer service is great it is true that PTE no longer uses there center sections from Garrett. That quality and performance are second to none. There the best turbo on the market. Who else but PTE has made 930AWHP on a t3 turbo?


Hands down great customer service from PTE.

[GSXRJJordan]

GT-K series?

No, although I suppose they share a lot in the center section and not so much in the wheels department. It's the new Hurricane series. I've set up a pretty screamin deal on them since I plan on buying a few. Let me know if anyone is interested, I'll put up a Group Buy.

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/~treadstone/prod_imgs/img-679-3-large.jpg

What's funny is that I can't find anything about it on their website. Anyway, I'll be getting it with a ~.80 A/R divided housing (similar volume to a .64 A/R single-scroll) and their smallest billet compressor wheel, 62mm. Oil-cooled ceramic ball bearing center section, ported shroud, etc etc.

[steve shadows]

Precision and Garrett are both great. Precision uses Garrett technology as most turbo producers do they just have Honeywell manufacture the custom pieces they request in many cases.

Either way whether custom precision, garrett or other I suggest sticking with a GT30 frame turbo for a stock displacement SR. I have used a GT35R on an SR, as well as a T61/T3 (non BB GT35) as well as GT3076R (or 3037S copy from garrett) as well as GT3071R.

I liked the 3037 the best, but the 3071 had better spool up characteristics.

I would look into the Precision Ball Bearing GT30 frame or variant turbos

[boosted98gst]

Thats cool glad to here the success but what exhaust manifold and turbine housing are you running as i'm kinda gathering info Because my girl has a 9MR and we want to upgrade soon not that big of course.More like 450-500 whp but congrats.


I am just running the standard burshur racing 37r T4S 4" Anti-Surge ported inlet and 3vband" outlet. I am also running the standard tubliar burshur manifold as you can see in the video. I bought the car to be my daily I just cant stay away from how well it performs all around. I went mid 11's just with stock turbo bpu mods and aem and tuning. For the cost I really do not have much into the car for a 9 second car, no doubt in my mind the evo hands down is the most fun car to mod. I have more money in my rb 240 mod for mod and its not even close performance wise. my buddy is running the hta35r he built the same time thats in the video and its still trapping 140's on street tires. The HTA turbo is overlooked by alot of people because of the price, but the 240 crowd is a cheap one so not many people are willling to pay for a turbo thats worth more then the car. All the big boys in the mid west are still using HTA turbos. No joke with the set up they offer as a package ive yet to be touched by another street car on street tires. I drove it last night to work and we got snow I run 41psi on street and the car still dailys like a stock evo, Even my cam is mild so its nothing crazy.

[tkocrewsr]

I am just running the standard burshur racing 37r T4S 4" Anti-Surge ported inlet and 3vband" outlet. I am also running the standard tubliar burshur manifold as you can see in the video. I bought the car to be my daily I just cant stay away from how well it performs all around. I went mid 11's just with stock turbo bpu mods and aem and tuning. For the cost I really do not have much into the car for a 9 second car, no doubt in my mind the evo hands down is the most fun car to mod. I have more money in my rb 240 mod for mod and its not even close performance wise. my buddy is running the hta35r he built the same time thats in the video and its still trapping 140's on street tires. The HTA turbo is overlooked by alot of people because of the price, but the 240 crowd is a cheap one so not many people are willling to pay for a turbo thats worth more then the car. All the big boys in the mid west are still using HTA turbos. No joke with the set up they offer as a package ive yet to be touched by another street car on street tires. I drove it last night to work and we got snow I run 41psi on street and the car still dailys like a stock evo, Even my cam is mild so its nothing crazy.

Thanks for sharing your info on your car i was thinking the 35r HTA would be more the way to go with the car.Glad to hear its running good for you,and we sorta think my g/f evo is factory freak car as well she wen 12.5 at 110 i believe but the car only has intake,turbo back with the stock cat and mild cbrd tune on stock all but shot clutch.It will go very low 12's with the new twin disk and me driving.

[Flicktitty]

there is some very nice info on this thread.

i've been researching going single for the last few months and been loooking at countless turbo's and i finally settled on the PT Billet 6265 .68A/r should be a fuckin rocket ship.

[ROIDMONKEY]

Dont buy either. Try a billet PTE5857 Dual BB air cooled or a PTE6262. The PTE 5857 Spools like a 30r but makes 650RWHP. The PTE6262 spools like a 35r but has made 780 AWHP. I have a 35R on my red daily these turbo are just out dated. Garrett just introduced there Billet GTX lineup but we havent gotten a chance to test them out yet.

im running a 5862 right now,, not my style of turbo.. laggy but when kicks in it goes... i was going for a 6062 but couldnt find it bla bla didnt want to jumo with the 6262 cause is to laggy for my taste ...
it all depends on ur whp goals! if u want over 650 be ready for lag unless u have a rb ...for street ill go with a gt3076r way more fun to drive ...

[ROIDMONKEY]

The PTE 6262 spoosl very well and isnt laggy at all. But then again i dont drift. lmfao...
full boost at around 6000 isn't laggy for you? u need tomei cams with solid lifters so u can enjoy 3500-4000 more of boost

[XnTroubleX]

Well, I ordered my manifold today, "powerlab twin scroll T4" still gotta decide on a turbo, Ive pretty much deleted the options of garrett and narrowed it down to either the PTE 6262 or the BW 300 series. Ive got a lil time to come to a conclusion so Ill make a final decision when its closer to ordering time.!!!

[GSXRJJordan]

I really don't see the need for T4 flanges on a motor like the SR or RB. When all the newest turbo technology shows 700+hp on much smaller volume T3 housings, I'll take that extra response from a T3 any day of the week.

Driving my car around on the stock T3 this morning, I thought of this thread and how awesome it is, and how not awesome my current turbo setup is lol.

[Flicktitty]

I really don't see the need for T4 flanges on a motor like the SR or RB. When all the newest turbo technology shows 700+hp on much smaller volume T3 housings, I'll take that extra response from a T3 any day of the week.

Driving my car around on the stock T3 this morning, I thought of this thread and how awesome it is, and how not awesome my current turbo setup is lol.
yeah i could see a T4 on a 4cyl street car being a little laggy and not much fun.

that's why you put a Inline 6 in the car and have some fun. lol.

[GSXRJJordan]

yeah i could see a T4 on a 4cyl street car being a little laggy and not much fun.

that's why you put a Inline 6 in the car and have some fun. lol.

I thought I was going to have to run a divided T4 on my Rb25, but everyone I talk to says it's not worth it unless you're going for 700+. For my 500whp build, or even to 6 or 7 hundred, the new divided T3 housings are plenty big (especially when the Turbonetics Hurricane one has a 4" Vband outlet lol).

[herbieS13]

to answer your question directly, if your looking for something fun on the streets you should go with the 30, it will spool quicker than the 35
ive ran a 3076 before and to be completely honest on the streets my 2871r is alot funner, its like instant boost compared to my old 30r

[juiced305diesel]

full boost at around 6000 isn't laggy for you? u need tomei cams with solid lifters so u can enjoy 3500-4000 more of boost

No not at all. lol.. all i care about is what i make from 6000 rpm to 9500rpm. Again i dont drift or autocross.

[tkocrewsr]

I really don't see the need for T4 flanges on a motor like the SR or RB. When all the newest turbo technology shows 700+hp on much smaller volume T3 housings, I'll take that extra response from a T3 any day of the week.

Driving my car around on the stock T3 this morning, I thought of this thread and how awesome it is, and how not awesome my current turbo setup is lol.

I second this you can easily make 800whp on on a 37r A.K.A T3/T67.so the need for a T4 flange is a little excessive.I think you would actually be happy with a HTA 35r form forced performance with a twin scroll housing T3 of course or the PTE 6057.

[XnTroubleX]

Well, Ive read all of your posts and Im going for nothing less than 700 whp. so the small turbos are out the window!!

[tkocrewsr]

in that case you like you said the pte6262 or 37r/t67 for the power goals you want.

[ROIDMONKEY]

GT3076R for fun. to race built Z06's viper's,Lambo's,ferraris 6262

[flamebag16]

I second this you can easily make 800whp on on a 37r A.K.A T3/T67.so the need for a T4 flange is a little excessive.I think you would actually be happy with a HTA 35r form forced performance with a twin scroll housing T3 of course or the PTE 6057.


hmm dont see the divided housing in t3 on forcedperformance website only see it in t4

[McRussellPants]

PTE's Billet Turbos doesn't shine until higher pressure ratios. which makes them cool, because you get the performance of a 61mm but then you crank the boost up and you've got a Turbo that can put down 67mm power.

the 62mm will go to 750whp
The 67mm has put down 850whp slipping on our dyno.
the 71mm was just updated
and the billet 76 will do just shy of 1000whp.


They're super cool. PTE also just released their Ceramic Air Cooled Center Section and Cast V-band inlet/outlet Exhaust Side.

Borg Warners and Turbonetics go in the dumpster.

Precision also sells the 62/35R which is a GT CHRA and exhaust whel with 62mm Billet wheel.

We've been selling the Billets nonstop at Boost Logic, its under 100$ to upgrade to billet on the smaller wheels, so its really not a hard decision.

[GSXRJJordan]

PTE's Billet Turbos doesn't shine until higher pressure ratios. which makes them cool, because you get the performance of a 61mm but then you crank the boost up and you've got a Turbo that can put down 67mm power.

the 62mm will go to 750whp
The 67mm has put down 850whp slipping on our dyno.
the 71mm was just updated
and the billet 76 will do just shy of 1000whp.


They're super cool. PTE also just released their Ceramic Air Cooled Center Section and Cast V-band inlet/outlet Exhaust Side.

Borg Warners and Turbonetics go in the dumpster.

Precision also sells the 62/35R which is a GT CHRA and exhaust whel with 62mm Billet wheel.

We've been selling the Billets nonstop at Boost Logic, its under 100$ to upgrade to billet on the smaller wheels, so its really not a hard decision.

Talk to me about twin scroll ~ Precision doesn't have divided housings for their new ceramic center sections do they?

[boosted98gst]

Well, Ive read all of your posts and Im going for nothing less than 700 whp. so the small turbos are out the window!!

What motor is this going on? It all depends on what type of power you want to make. I know all my power is made 5k-9700 rpms. I am lucky I am awd so 6k 2step and I never fall out of boost. Whatever you do after you pick what turbo all your power will be made with what kind of cams, headwork, springs ect Head work is everything in smaller displacement forced induction engines. Some people always fight about lag, welp anything under 3 liters with a big turbo is going to have lag, you just need to find ways around it and overcome. Everyone on here is going to nut swing on what they think its better and why , I have no idea about the other turbos because I personally never used or tuned with one, so I will never say false things about something, I do not know about. Anyone I mean anyone can throw dyno numbers out there, any company or shop will do it. What you should look into is 100% fact track tested stuff. Start searching what similar sets up are running ect. But just like cars most turbos are similar or close technogy, they all steal R&D from each other, just take your time on what you pick and good luck~

[XnTroubleX]

Searching, Searching, Searching, it just about all ive been doing!!!! But as far as the motor its a basic SR, going with Carillo rods, CP pistons, prob just a mild 264 cam, full head job with all brian crowler, injector dynamics 1000cc saturated injectors, PFC tuner, Greddy intake, metal HG, ARP studs.Etc, Etc.... Ill Prob start a build thread here real soon once I get a few more things in..I live in Louisiana so theres not a drift event easily available like there is in Cali where most of you guys live, and the drag strip is constantly being shut down and reopened so i cant rely on it being around forever so this is just mainly a toy, its just something I wanna do. There is a few other 240s around where I live but none really pusing out serious horsepower

[ross.cottrill]

schearer fabrications makes a t4 twin scroll housing for the 6262 and you can order a tubonetics t4 twin scroll housing for the 6265...i just sold my 35r and i have no freakin clue what im going to put on my 2.2 mazworx block...any ideas would be greatly appreciated...

[SuicidnS13]

Im so shocked no one here has brought up the new Airwerks line from BW. Full-Race is pushing the crap out of these turbos lately. They are also very cost efffective as well as bush bearing, so rebuilds are dirt cheap.

Here is a great thread about the billet vs. bullseye vs. airwerks new turbos.

PT67 Billet or Bullseye S366 or Airwerks S300SX 91-79 - Supraforums.com (http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=541801)

[XnTroubleX]

Thats funny you mention the airwerks,,,,,, I posted this thread about 2 months ago, and friday I order the Airwerks S300 88/75 T4 TS from full-race.Shipped i got it for 1100$.

[SuicidnS13]

Ha Ha, nice to know someone is keeping up with the times. I notice alot of the 240 community is all about response and LOW power numbers due to drifting. Nice to see people actually trying to make nice numbers (over 5-600whp on pump) If I see another just put a 2871 or a 3071(76) reply Im just going to puke.

[jspaeth]

Ha Ha, nice to know someone is keeping up with the times. I notice alot of the 240 community is all about response and LOW power numbers due to drifting. Nice to see people actually trying to make nice numbers (over 5-600whp on pump) If I see another just put a 2871 or a 3071(76) reply Im just going to puke.


Okay, whatever. So many of the people on here (not me) that road race their cars go with 2871s or 3071s and swear by them over the laggier, but higher-output turbos.

What is the purpose of having 600 whp? With what goal? If it is for drag, cool, but for what else?

We don't have 4wd and don't have electronically controlled traction control like many of today's 600whp cars.

Also, most of them are properly aerodynamically engineered to go 200 mph safely.

I just don't get this desire to have retarded amounts of nearly uncontrollable power.

[S13 curtis]

schearer fabrications makes a t4 twin scroll housing for the 6262 and you can order a tubonetics t4 twin scroll housing for the 6265...i just sold my 35r and i have no freakin clue what im going to put on my 2.2 mazworx block...any ideas would be greatly appreciated...

I would say PTE6262 all the way ross. billet turbo's FTW

[SuicidnS13]

Alot of the newer turbos can flow alot more air than the GT turbos of yesterday. All without sacrificing spool and response. Feel of a car is all personal preference, but once again this scene is the only scene where I see other fellow 240 owners holding back others by telling them that XXX horespower is more than enough.

The pursuit of power and effeciency is what pushes mfgs to create newer, better improved parts. Turbo sizing(hp levels) on road courses is largely dependant on the tracks you actually have access too. Here at Spring MT Raceway I see tons of high horsepower(6-800whp) tracks floggin the tracks with amazing times, as often as I see lower hosepower(3-450whp) cars doing just as well. My gripe isnt low hp dynos being bragged about like its a challenge, its the attitude that enough is enough. Heck, most ancient t3/t4s can out spool and out flow most of the 2871 setups I see on here. For a fraction of the cost. Factor X has an 850whp 91 nsx out here as do we have tons and tons of other older cars with major horsepower hitting the twisties.

[SuicidnS13]

Okay, whatever. So many of the people on here (not me) that road race their cars go with 2871s or 3071s and swear by them over the laggier, but higher-output turbos.

What is the purpose of having 600 whp? With what goal? If it is for drag, cool, but for what else?

We don't have 4wd and don't have electronically controlled traction control like many of today's 600whp cars.

Also, most of them are properly aerodynamically engineered to go 200 mph safely.

I just don't get this desire to have retarded amounts of nearly uncontrollable power.

Also alot of todays stand alone systems can incorporate traction control if you need it. Most of the guys complaining about traction on S chassis over 400whp have too stiff of coilovers, or 255's in the rear stretched on 10.5's. Or even worse tire sizes. 4wd is one thing, but supras and corvettes dont have issues putting down power with proper tire sizing and suspension settings. Heck the current vettes are still running leaf springs and supras have similar setups to S Chassis's.

[boosted98gst]

Also alot of todays stand alone systems can incorporate traction control if you need it. Most of the guys complaining about traction on S chassis over 400whp have too stiff of coilovers, or 255's in the rear stretched on 10.5's. Or even worse tire sizes. 4wd is one thing, but supras and corvettes dont have issues putting down power with proper tire sizing and suspension settings. Heck the current vettes are still running leaf springs and supras have similar setups to S Chassis's.


I so agree with you, the 240 community is so full of cookie cutter cars, everyone tells everyone whats cool and whats not. Now putting a small tire on a huge wide rim is cool? The 240 crowd has such a bad wrap its not even funny, most the younger kids are worried about looks over function which is bs. Everyone is running the same fucking thing or similar on their car because everyone is worried what the next jdm fan boy will say about the car. 240= cheap knock off rims+ 225 tire+ some type of jdm fiberass body kit that looks horrible, widebody when your running a 225 tire, stickers with drift clubs, horrible paint jobs, 4th generation coilovers, ebay parts. Everyone uses " I drift I want to keep my power usuable" when they are rocking 12 year old turbos

[jspaeth]

I so agree with you, the 240 community is so full of cookie cutter cars, everyone tells everyone whats cool and whats not. Now putting a small tire on a huge wide rim is cool? The 240 crowd has such a bad wrap its not even funny, most the younger kids are worried about looks over function which is bs. Everyone is running the same fucking thing or similar on their car because everyone is worried what the next jdm fan boy will say about the car. 240= cheap knock off rims+ 225 tire+ some type of jdm fiberass body kit that looks horrible, widebody when your running a 225 tire, stickers with drift clubs, horrible paint jobs, 4th generation coilovers, ebay parts. Everyone uses " I drift I want to keep my power usuable" when they are rocking 12 year old turbos

hahah I agree with the second half of your post.

I don't think that it is ALL bad to go with a huge setup, but let's face it, the block can only hold so much power safely for so much time before something goes kaboom (without spending the $$$$$ to fully build the entire motor with quality/name brand parts.....)

The 2871R and 30R give you enough power (as people have said) to still beat Z06's and stuff like that on a road coarse without having to rebuild the entire motor. Plus, these turbos spool up quicker making them "more fun to drive on the street" (a.k.a you don't have to always be beating on your car and revving it to 6-9K RPM just to have some fun).

The amount of money needed to SAFELY/PROPERLY do a 600 whp setup is just WAY beyond the amount that most people can spend.

Whereas the amount needed to achieve 350 whp is substantially less, and been proven to be safe without blowing up your motor.

[XnTroubleX]

Well like Ive stated before drifting is no where in my intentions. the only type of racing that goes down around me is either drag racing or roll racing. I am also fully aware about building the block and head to accomodate this kind of power that is why I posted this Thread: http://zilvia.net/f/wanted-buy/303953-shortblock-longblock.html?highlight=shortblock+longblock. Plus Ive done several roadcourse track days on sportbikes.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt278/trouble318/l_785c39e7e851448fa771bd19b3541054.jpg
So this build is mainly just something I want to do without having any particular intentions for it.

[eh?]

The amount of money needed to SAFELY/PROPERLY do a 600 whp setup is just WAY beyond the amount that most people on Zilvia can spend.



Lets face it, most of the kids here don't make the money to make HP.
HP=money.
See the this thread http://zilvia.net/f/polls/183898-how-much-do-we-all-make-12.html#post3271966
And it's easy to see why there aren't many high HP setups.
I have a friend who is a poster child of this. He's too cheap to buy a new turbo so instead he rocks a leaking T25. I tell him to get an aem ems and he insists on the S-afc.
Oh well. Just venting. :gives:

[SuicidnS13]

Well like Ive stated before drifting is no where in my intentions. the only type of racing that goes down around me is either drag racing or roll racing. I am also fully aware about building the block and head to accomodate this kind of power that is why I posted this Thread: http://zilvia.net/f/wanted-buy/303953-shortblock-longblock.html?highlight=shortblock+longblock. Plus Ive done several roadcourse track days on sportbikes.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt278/trouble318/l_785c39e7e851448fa771bd19b3541054.jpg
So this build is mainly just something I want to do without having any particular intentions for it.

So true with where I live as well. I mean we have our drifting events as well and even time attack events. But the crowd I roll with is much different from the average 240 community. I can see atleast 5 people in this thread alone which can afford a high dollar setup. Also it's not always about how much you make, it's about how bad you want it. The Honda community is a great example of this. They are in the same income brackets as ours and 1 click in their forced induction shows you just how much further they've come along. All with in similar budget builds as ours.

Still I do agree that it only takes 400whp to take on our big brother Cars when they are stock, how ever in my city non of them are stock. So to play with the big boys you gotta build like one.

[SuicidnS13]

Also you shouldve stated roll racing from the beginning. I'm curious to see how your air werks turbo is going to fair. I'm looking at the same setup for a built rb25. I am tuning for e85 how ever. What is your fuel setup like? Please don't tell me your planning on running a failbro for over 500whp? Atleast run a dual setup?

[XnTroubleX]

it will be a dual setup but not sure exaclty which yet. Im crossing each bridge as they comeup. I think ive said it but this is my first car build. So im taking each issue one at a time. It took me two months to choose a turbo.. LOL..I got tired of bikes and wanted to do something different.

[STR8E180]

personally for a street car i would use the GT3076R with a . .78 twin scroll housing but make sure u use a good exhaust manifold and not those ebay china special pieces of junk


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/str8e180/DSCN0138.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/str8e180/DSCN0324.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/str8e180/DSCN0327.jpg

my old engine bay b4 the sr20v cylinder head conversion
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/str8e180/CIMG0350.jpg

[R33E8]

personally for a street car i would use the GT3076R with a . .78 twin scroll housing but make sure u use a good exhaust manifold and not those ebay china special pieces of junk


Honestly, read the posts before yours.. He isn't interested in a small turbo like a gt30..

I have a gt35r on my ka (my daily)... I love it so far.. The power is there when i need it and it's great of driving around to save gas.. I'm thinking about going bigger to a BW s366 but I need to reread this thread and consider the other options..

[SuicidnS13]

Yea the gt35r was the big thing to run when everyone was running sc61s, next up came twin scroll housings, and now full race is pushing bush turbos which are so responsive they dont even come in a ballbearing option. Times change and technology improves. You can get more for less these days.

[S13 curtis]

Yea the gt35r was the big thing to run when everyone was running sc61s, next up came twin scroll housings, and now full race is pushing bush turbos which are so responsive they dont even come in a ballbearing option. Times change and technology improves. You can get more for less these days.

please explain the new bush turbo's im intrested

[SuicidnS13]

Here is a good link about them.

PT67 Billet or Bullseye S366 or Airwerks S300SX 91-79 - Supraforums.com (http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=541801)

[SuicidnS13]

Here is another good thread on them.

Supraforums.com (http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=522174)

[SuicidnS13]

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