My supercharged s13 KA.

[Grantspec]

Check out my supercharged s13 KA coupe. It currently runs but I dont have the tune yet so I can't flog on it.

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[Grantspec]

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[Grantspec]

Crappy video of it idling.

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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmJqwBny1OQ)

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Nice! I thought this was going to be a joke thread when I saw the first picture.

Good work. Any stats yet?

[Drift N Dragg]

Information? It's Nice... Specs on Supercharger?

[nixad]

How much would you want to manufacture another kit like that all parts included?

[ROIDMONKEY]

im guessing u changed ur injectors/fuel pump right? and awesome job... can see lots of KA owners been after this...

[BustedS13]

spurt spurt

[Bubbles]

Make it sound like this and I'll buy 3 kits.

YouTube - Bad ass Mustang Cobra with Kenne Bell Supercharger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQX3cOAbes&feature=PlayList&p=0AED0C28EC991A11&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3)

[ManoNegra]

looks like an Exterra M62, pretty cool
seen your thread on ka-t.org
I'm working(?) on one but going at it - like everything I do - at a snail pace.
would like to see a dyno of it once you get it sorted out.

[mattro]

nice! makes me want to go ka.

[jayrawr]

niiice. and i dont think a ka could sound like a cobra.. haha but it'd be freakin insane if it could !

[s13dan]

WOW. thats different. Looks pretty cool.Get it tuned and on a dyno, lets see some numbers.

And is that a drift car or what?

[rb26man]

nice set up

[Grantspec]

Thanks everyone.

The Supercharger is an Eaton M62 from a frontier. The adapter plate came from a member of this site actually. The rest of the parts were fabricated by myself.

I will be tuning with a chipped ecu for now. Eventually I would like to get Nistune. Also running 370 cc injectors and an n60 maf.

The car is mostly used for auto-x. But I plan on doing some drift events with it.

As for manufacturing kits. I don't think I will be doing this because I am a full time college student and don't really have the facilities or time to. But if anyone wants any more information on the set-up I'd be glad to share it.

I lost the cable to my chip burner and just ordered another one. So currently I am waiting on the cable for my chip burner before I can start tuning it. I will keep everyone posted when I get it running better and get it on the dyno.

Here is a cost breakdown of how much I have spent so far.

Supercharger- 150
Adapter plate- 80
Maf and Inj- 30
Belt- 15
Hardware- 30
Gaskets- 15
Idlers- 5
Miscelaneous- 50
Scrap metal for intake, Idler bracket, and IACV relo.- free (already had it)

total- $375.00 !! not bad right?

[fckillerbee]

Looks good man! Can't wait to see some numbers.

[mattro]

total- $375.00 !! not bad right?

WHAT? im 6k+ into my sr and it doesnt even run! fml......

[S13 Charlie]

I gotta say, that's quite a trick setup! I hope you can get it tuned and running smoothly, I'd love to hear what kind of numbers this gains. Love the exhaust, sounds great. nice and deep.

cheers,

C

[Grantspec]

You will probably make way more than the 220 hp this thing will make though... I hope... :hs:

[Jacob'S13]

WOW... this would be very interesting.

[JoshDank]

Your profile says you're in Orlando. If you need dyno time, I have 3 dynos at my work in Sanford. Shoot me a PM and I can get you in for a reasonable price after hours or on a weekend.

[fckillerbee]

WHAT? im 6k+ into my sr and it doesnt even run! fml......
eeeeek. you could have gone ls1 for the price!

[Grantspec]

Your profile says you're in Orlando. If you need dyno time, I have 3 dynos at my work in Sanford. Shoot me a PM and I can get you in for a reasonable price after hours or on a weekend.

Thats super cool man. Ill shoot you a PM for specifics when I get this thing tuned a little bit better. I live in the UCF area because I am a student there. Thats not too far at all from Sanford. 20 minutes maybe?

[PerilousActs]

This is awesome! Very nice setup, man. Not many people come through with builds like this...making custom brackets is obviously too complicated ;).

I hope your tune goes will. Definitely post up some dyno results.

[KoukiMonsta]

Thats super cool man. Ill shoot you a PM for specifics when I get this thing tuned a little bit better. I live in the UCF area because I am a student there. Thats not too far at all from Sanford. 20 minutes maybe?

i better fucking see this thing rippin' up the streets!!!!!!


awesome build man

[Bubbles]

eeeeek. you could have gone ls1 for the price!

Ha.

Ha ha.

ha ha ha


Wait...............are you serious.

[ericcastro]

Put this kit out.

Go here to have it made.
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/287358-what-do-you-want-made.html

then here for a custom design
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/213929-you-dont-have.html

Only make yourself $20 off the kit and not to many people will try and go behind your back, lol.

I want mine dipped in a floral type arangment.
something totally stupid and grandma like, lol.

[janders211]

looks nice.
I like how you were "I'm just going to do this".
Then you were like "I just did this".
and then we're like "Damn- he just did that".

I am going to get drunk and make a turbo out of old rusted exhausts with my dremel. Inspiration.

[Grantspec]

looks nice.
I like how you were "I'm just going to do this".
Then you were like "I just did this".
and then we're like "Damn- he just did that".

I am going to get drunk and make a turbo out of old rusted exhausts with my dremel. Inspiration.

Thanks man. With these kind of projects I feel like its best just to attack them one step at a time.

The progression pics of the thread make it look super easy but I spent the last month putting all this together.

[Grantspec]

Put this kit out.

Go here to have it made.
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/287358-what-do-you-want-made.html

then here for a custom design
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/213929-you-dont-have.html

Only make yourself $20 off the kit and not to many people will try and go behind your back, lol.

I want mine dipped in a floral type arangment.
something totally stupid and grandma like, lol.

I'd be down for collaborating to start selling the kit. I feel like alot of people always come out and say they would purchase a kit though and when it comes down to it no-one actually does. Another guy was selling these kits for a while but he wanted way to much money for them IMO so he failed.

[SexPanda]

looks nice.
I like how you were "I'm just going to do this".
Then you were like "I just did this".
and then we're like "Damn- he just did that".

lol i agree man. Thats pretty sick. Not too many people supercharge the KA, but seriously, it's got the low end grunt you already feel, plus the supercharger... Its made of win.

[SimpleSexy180]

This peaks my interests. I'll be checking this thread for numbers. If it looks pretty good, i seriously wouldn't mind SCing a KA.

[nissankat]

I'm loving the build. It came out great, I cant wait to go for a ride in this thing.

[S13Boosts]

This peaks my interests. I'll be checking this thread for numbers. If it looks pretty good, i seriously wouldn't mind SCing a KA.

Id do the same if you get good numbers.. ill even be building up a s chassis very soon! cause of this!:bite: nice job bro!:yum:

[Shadowhunter]

I'd love to see some final and tuned numbers off of this. From viewing previous S/C threads the numbers are always disappointing. I'd love to go S/C but my Hp/TQ goals are 300-350 to the wheels and I have not seen one of these S/C projects get anywhere near there, but who knows with good tuning it may be possible.

[Grantspec]

I'd love to see some final and tuned numbers off of this. From viewing previous S/C threads the numbers are always disappointing. I'd love to go S/C but my Hp/TQ goals are 300-350 to the wheels and I have not seen one of these S/C projects get anywhere near there, but who knows with good tuning it may be possible.

Without an intercooler I'd doubt that this supercharger is capable of more than 230-240 hp.

I didnt really choose to go supercharged to make big power though. Honestly I just thought it would be a cool project and something different than the average turbo set-up.

[fishhouse]

Without an intercooler I'd doubt that this supercharger is capable of more than 230-240 hp.

I didnt really choose to go supercharged to make big power though. Honestly I just thought it would be a cool project and something different than the average turbo set-up.
run E85 no IC necessary, should be good for another 20whp with the timing advances etc.

[om3ga]

WHAT? im 6k+ into my sr and it doesnt even run! fml......

Im right there with you man, but dont worry it only means you are doing it the right way :cj::D trust me lol

[ManoNegra]

heat soak from the SC is typically what limits power on this projects
from what I've noticed and gather from talking to people
the lay of the set up on DOHC is both an advantage and a limiting factor

[Shadowhunter]

Without an intercooler I'd doubt that this supercharger is capable of more than 230-240 hp.

I didnt really choose to go supercharged to make big power though. Honestly I just thought it would be a cool project and something different than the average turbo set-up.

For sure man, the response of the S/C is mainly why I would want to do a project like this. At the same time I want my car to be competitive in the events I take it to and that's why I Have set a goal of 300-350whp. If I thought it was possible with a S/C KA setup I would go S/C all day. Possibly finding a pulley that can upgrade the S/C to produce more boost may get the numbers up there and for sure an intercooler will help. You can try to pick up a godspeed intercooler for cheap on ebay. Good luck and can't wait to see the results!

[thrax]

Good thread. That's the best attitude, to make the part your self when you feel you need too.

[fcdrifter20]

cant wait to see the numbers on this thing. great job

[IHasLongTorso]

e85 isnt that available and it uses about twice as much as 91 yeah you get more power and you run waaaay cooler but an intercooler setup would be ideal. then if thats not enough and its only a track car. then id say go e85. I was thinking though wouldn't it be better to run an m90 for higher boost because after all boost is resistance and the m90 would have to spin slower to move the same air to get the same resistance making the same boost? and with a supercharger slower means less heat and more efficient. But after all this is all of the top of my head and i could be wrong. lol. What do you other guys think?

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

this is pretty cool. you could probably have someone write the CNC code for those brackets in an afternoon and make some money.

[drift_limo]

nice set up..

[mrchomponthis]

If i had a ka i would totally run this setup.

[Nezahualcoyotl]

i like the low growl of the exhaust note. put out a group buy...
where do i send my money? :naughty:

[WagDatto]

Glad someone out there did it and finished! Mine is still on-going... I refuse to finish it without all the proper paint and powdercoating done, so I'm just waiting on money....

The real thing to think about is... Do you really NEED much more than 250hp at the wheels? For most of you guys drifting with SR's, you're running about the same power with no issues. Obviously as you up the level you compete at, you'll need to up it... but for a reliable, daily driven, street car that can go out there and hang with the rest of the kids on the track, why not?!

Plus, if/when the motor fails, you're out $400 for a new one, haha!

[Kougeki]

Imma book mark this page for future reference. Great build, and I hope you get it running to your liking.

[BustedS13]

The real thing to think about is... Do you really NEED much more than 250hp at the wheels?

out of a balanced little import, no, you definitely don't.
now, if you're just trying to blow the doors off anything that tries to keep up with you from stoplight to stoplight, that's a different story. but that's not what our cars are for.

[Otto347]

Fucking killer price for your setup!

[ericcastro]

Glad someone out there did it and finished! Mine is still on-going... I refuse to finish it without all the proper paint and powdercoating done, so I'm just waiting on money....

The real thing to think about is... Do you really NEED much more than 250hp at the wheels? For most of you guys drifting with SR's, you're running about the same power with no issues. Obviously as you up the level you compete at, you'll need to up it... but for a reliable, daily driven, street car that can go out there and hang with the rest of the kids on the track, why not?!

Plus, if/when the motor fails, you're out $400 for a new one, haha!


that whole, "do you need" hp statement is always dangerous on here.
Most of these people think they do, lol.
and shit,
Your giving these guys to much credit.
Most SR's on here are between 180 -200 HP, lol.

[Grantspec]

Thanks for the props everyone. I want to look into running the m90 charger down the road. But honestly when I want more power than the m62 will make I will probably go ls1.

[Grantspec]

Glad someone out there did it and finished! Mine is still on-going... I refuse to finish it without all the proper paint and powdercoating done, so I'm just waiting on money....

The real thing to think about is... Do you really NEED much more than 250hp at the wheels? For most of you guys drifting with SR's, you're running about the same power with no issues. Obviously as you up the level you compete at, you'll need to up it... but for a reliable, daily driven, street car that can go out there and hang with the rest of the kids on the track, why not?!

Plus, if/when the motor fails, you're out $400 for a new one, haha!

Thats exactly why I love the KA. I recently bought a KA for 60$ with a fidanza flywheel. hahaha That motor is currently on stand-by in case this one lets go on me.

[WagDatto]

With your tensioner setup, do you think you'll have any issues throwing the belt? It looks a little scary with those two skinny rollers pinching it together... That's exactly how I plan on making my tensioner, though, because it puts the most pressure around the boost pulley. If the belt doesn't slip, you end up making at or just under 10psi, from what I've seen from other people's threads.

[Grantspec]

With your tensioner setup, do you think you'll have any issues throwing the belt? It looks a little scary with those two skinny rollers pinching it together... That's exactly how I plan on making my tensioner, though, because it puts the most pressure around the boost pulley. If the belt doesn't slip, you end up making at or just under 10psi, from what I've seen from other people's threads.

I don't think it will throw belts but I did notice that the alternator was squealing a bit when I would blip the throttle with the lights on and the e-fans running. The alternator has a lot less belt wrap now. The belt is already pretty tight.. Might be able to get it a bit tighter though.

[JoshDank]

Thats super cool man. Ill shoot you a PM for specifics when I get this thing tuned a little bit better. I live in the UCF area because I am a student there. Thats not too far at all from Sanford. 20 minutes maybe?

Yeah, I actually live by Waterford. It's maybe 20 minutes up the 417. Just let me know. I have a decent set of tools at the house if you need a garage too. I'd like to check this thing out.

[Bushido]

get this thing on an dyno and get some numbers...


hmmm, SC KA or KA with SR turbo bits??

[S13 curtis]

this set up makes more power than a T25 Ka-T and is more effecient. nice build

[Mita Orange]

Wow looks awesome, nice work. I'd buy a kit!

[ZX88]

looks pretty close to stock

[wgJoY]

The final set-up looks great!

As stated above, it looks stock, which is a good thing for us Californians.

I'm definitely interested, especially with that price.

Subscribeddd.

[WagDatto]

There's a pretty good supercharged forum on ka-t.org if you guys wanna learn more about the whole dealio.

The main things to know is that after about 250hp, the m62 from the Frontier/Xterra is out of its efficiency range, and only produces more heat. Right up at 250hp, most people are running water/meth injection to cool down the intake temps as it is, anyway.

The down side of this setup is you're pretty limited to the m62 or the m90 (which takes a bit more work to fit on the header-size of the engine).

Still... instant boost, and the s/c plays off the strengths of the KA really well, too!

[Slideurmom]

sick set up how much was it for the plate made and where did u get the m62 .we should meet up im local

[Tom25666]

that's very cool. props for all the fab work

[KansaiDrifter]

Similar setups run say 240rwhp, considering that a brand spanking new rebuilt ka does 130-140rwhp and older ka's run 120ish rwhp on a dyno, *(found numbers on youtube dyno vids) +100rwhp for under $400, less then $4/hp awesome bargain! Even if it was ramped up to $550 or so as a full bolt on kit, this would be a top seller in my book.

For a quick comparison to turbo, a full ka-t kit from cx racing is $1300 on the cheap end for the kit, and that's a very inexpensive kit, it produces 232rwhp on 7psi *(taken from their website), about +90rwhp which gives us $14.4/hp


Maybe I'll do this too, would love a touch more power from the ka and being different is always good times :) Awesome job man.

[corey240]

In car driving videos or bust. I would like to have a sc ka daily but I got a bimmer :(

[svensko]

Definitely something I'd be interested in if the price was right. If anyone is working out the details on a kit, keep us updated.

[andrew600]

love this build. def favorite, and im starting to piece mine together.
very interested to know about the adapter?

[dirtdiggler666]

wow that sc plate looks great where did you get it :hahano:

[Bubbles]

Similar setups run say 240rwhp



Hmmmmmmmmm

[Grantspec]

wow that sc plate looks great where did you get it :hahano:


haha, thanks man. It worked out great.

[Black R]

There's a pretty good supercharged forum on ka-t.org if you guys wanna learn more about the whole dealio.

The main things to know is that after about 250hp, the m62 from the Frontier/Xterra is out of its efficiency range, and only produces more heat. Right up at 250hp, most people are running water/meth injection to cool down the intake temps as it is, anyway.

The down side of this setup is you're pretty limited to the m62 or the m90 (which takes a bit more work to fit on the header-size of the engine).

Still... instant boost, and the s/c plays off the strengths of the KA really well, too!


Yeah, an m90 = laminova air to water cooler setup = instant on torque and ice cold iat's with a ka... ;)

[Devens240]

very VERY interesting...

[Sterlz]

My good friend and I did this to his KA within the same budget, no tune yet, but that thing feels crazy. We did it on a budget instead of buying the expensive thomas knight kit

[dirtdiggler666]

oh btw it looks great man are you going to dyno it?

[Slideurmom]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/PC060275.jpg



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what are these connected to ?

[THEminusMAN]

Nice, I have a ka on craigs that i might need to hold onto!

[Ichi-Go]

what are these connected to ?

Fuel pressure regulator, boost guage, and bypass valve.

[Bushido]

let us know what you end up doing to the tune

[Grantspec]

Got the tune burned on the chips and the car ran great. Did a couple pulls everything seemed solid. Went back to the house for a sec. Went back out and the 350z oil filter that I used due to its smaller size fell off because it did not have enough thread engagment. I ordered an oil filter relocation kit so it should be back up and going when I get that in the mail and installed. I think the motor is ok because I shut it off as soon as the oil pressure dropped. If not Ill be throwing in my spare motor. Will keep ya'll updated. This week has been all about school and less about the car because it is final exam week.

[S14_Kouki]

another one nice ill prob be starting on my friends s14. He just bought a supercharger and wants to put it on his ka.

[gospdracer90]

great idea and budget i think this is sick especially for a daily driver ...im deff with everyone else that said if its sold for about the price it cost you id take one,

im a few grand into my sr build just like many other =/ ...the stupid motor sits on an engine stand and laughs at my wallet daily

and p.s i know to make it yourself would be very time consuming as a college student but if your good with custom fabrication i think it would be an easy way to get extra money

[Grantspec]

Unfortunately, I dont think I would be able to manufacture the parts and sell a kit for the same price that I did mine. If you want to put together a kit like mine for the same price you are not going to get around doing the fabrication yourself. The materials for each kit would add up to about $120, maybe more. If I was going to sell this stuff, here would be my prices:

Adapter plate~ $150
Belt tensioner~ $130
Intake pipe w/throttle cable bracket~ $130

It takes me alot of man hours to manufacture this stuff unless I wrote a CAD program for it and had it CNC'd somewhere, which I may look into...
Then just add your own supercharger. Your looking at $410 for my kit plus $150 or so for a supercharger. Total of $560 for the basic ingredients to supercharge your KA. Still not bad if you ask me.

[ericcastro]

You doing one for us SOHC guys?
lol

[fdaze]

Id be interested in the kit if you ask me

[240_fun]

I would be interested in those parts as well

[Grantspec]

Ok so, I have been getting a TON of PM's about interest in these parts. Let me refine my kit a little bit and I'll consider putting these parts out there for sale. Thanks to everyone for the feedback and interest in my setup.

[fishhouse]

looks cool man. i dig it!! i wish i had the time to do something lik this. id probably use a bit bigger supercharger, cams and run E85. i think if you could get 275whp out of it with a supercharger it would be SUPER insanely fun to drive.

[BTplaya]

Nice work. Keep us updated!

[Xclusive_racer]

im not too big on using ka"s but "YO" this set up is the first one i have seen! But im just thinking that you should do your springs in the head....either way mad PROPS!!! hopefuly my q45 project goes on a cheap budget....LIKE I SAY "MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK" concept and this is a great example!!!!

[KansaiDrifter]

If you can get the parts cnc'd up I think you'd have a legit setup for sale and can run a production of them easily. Even if not, I'd still take a set! :)

[s13 @ fullboost]

Thats awesome I think Nistune Would be the best way to tune this Or even EMS when it comes to the KA but awesome job I really hope you do mass produce this kit.

[Ivebeenconverted]

Yeah i would deffinately be interested in a kit, where are you finding the superchargers at i havnt found any cheap ones?

[lv240s14]

how much power is this thing going to make?

Best shit I have seen in a while by the way.

[Gordo714]

clean set up..... cant wait to see some videos of that in the street/track
keep up the good work

[s13pignose]

Nice work, very clean setup. good luck with numbers

[S14Serge]

Great build and a definitive way to be different!! Your build=ftmw

[PoorMans180SX]

Great build and a definitive way to be different!! Your build=ftmw

For the mother win? What?

This setup looks legit. Might be interested depending on what the kit looks like.

[Slideurmom]

I just picked up my sc this week .I just need to get the plate caded so I can get it waterjeted. You guys know anywhere to get it caded for a low price?hey grant why didn't u weld the holes around the inlet?.

[Omarius Maximus]

Awesome build. Thinking about adding a supercharger to supplement my too large a turbo that spools at 5k. Either a g-ladder from a g60 Corrado or an eaton off a mini cooper.....

[sposa]

how much hp would you be putting down with this kit?

[chibo]

I'd be willing to pay around $1000 for a kit like this with everything included...

[WagDatto]

I'd be willing to pay around $1000 for a kit like this with everything included...

Chibo... Did you used to have a supercharger kit? I forget who it was that first opened my eyes to it on here...

In any case, doesnt Thomas Knight sell his kit, minus supercharger, for around $1000? Or maybe he sells for $1800 and someone was selling for around $1000... In any case, Thomas Knight doesn't list the kit on the website, but does sell it to my understanding. However, many of the parts can be bought for much cheaper if you do it all yourself.

[s13gebala]

build that motor, keep the supercharger and add a turbo!!

some guy did it to his sr in japan, sickness.

[Grantspec]

I have been on vacation without much time to work on the car. The car is running relatively well. I am just starting to work on the tuning. At 4 psi which is what it runs with the bypass valve hooked up. It runs strong with good afr's. With the bypass valve unhooked it runs 10 psi but may be a little lean in places. I am going to work on tuning when I get back from vacation and will post some driving vids most likely next week.

Thanks for all the interest and kind words.

[WagDatto]

Good, glad to hear more people confirming 10psi! For a while, people swore by 7-8psi, but I think their belts weren't tensioned properly.

Twin charging the motor would be no bueno. Requires remote mounting the s/c, which is silly for the dual cam if you're going with a m62. BEE*R twin charged an SR, got something like 400hp from it or something... But the time and money you put into it is beyond retarded for the power. Why not just build a standard forced induction with turbo and get more out of it?

[Grantspec]

It definitly makes 10 psi. It seems to make about 8-9 psi as soon as you get on it then build to 10 as the rpm increases. Even at 2000 rpm when I would go 100% throttle it would instantly jump up to 9 psi! No lag at all. This car is going to be really fun to drive.

[redhatchy92]

twin charge that bitch.... use the sc to spool the turbo quicker. building the motor internally might be a good idea though. that would make for one sick ka.imo

[logik23]

I'd also pay 1000$ for a 100% complete turn key kit. I'd buy it right now!

I need something for this summer, 4 summers in a row with a stock KA is to damn long! I need POWER!! lol

[ericcastro]

what happens if you put SOHC pistons in the DOHC block and then do this??

[WagDatto]

what happens if you put SOHC pistons in the DOHC block and then do this??

I did the math when I was still thinking about doing internal work on the motor I'm building. With some sort of injection and proper tuning, you should have no issues tuning the setup to work. It does put you at the upper end of what people say is "safe" to tune, but should work.

I forget all the math they say to do, but taking the compression and 10psi and adding those into the equation, it said it was good to go!

I say do it, document it, dyno it and post vids!

[spooled240]

wow props for trying something different, maybe I missed it but what are your power goals?

the response you're gonna have with that setup will definitely come in handy with autoX and drifting

[M11's]

any updates on this. hows the tune coming along, what did you settle with

[Grantspec]

The tune is coming along pretty well.. However, I won a free paint job at a car show. So the car has been at the paint shop for the last 3 weeks. I will post pics when I get it back this weekend.

[Jsellers]

Very Clever Son!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rabboni]

Dude, this is awesome. If you get a pretty decent power gain on a budget like that then Im definitely considering this as a viable option. Are you tuning this yourself?

[bigdreezy]

yeah any chance you have the pattern for the plate that connects the eaton to the intake so i can just go get one cut

[Grantspec]

Yes, Im tuning this myself with a chipped ecu, tunerpro, and my wideband. Although, the car has been at the paint shop for over three weeks now so I havent been able to work on it at all. The car is drive-able at the moment just wouldn't feel comfortable flogging on it quite yet but its getting there.

I will post pictures when I get it back this weekend.

And no I don't have a pattern for the plate, sorry!

[ka-titties]

hey, really cool build dude. and the install looks really clean!

[JDMSTYLE]

love the scream of a s/c, get some videos of this thing once your done!

[fishhouse]

and den???

[91es13coop]

man this is truely awesome i was just thinking of s/c-ing the ka instead of turbo because of the lag but couldnt find ANYTHING on a manufactured kit but then i see this and man the price is insanely good i could see this EASILY selling for 1000$ complete i know id sure buy one but thanks for this man now im on the hunt at my local junkyards lol this is really awesome i cant explain how excited i am now you must be going crazy waiting to get it back. bet its gonna look dope keep us updated man thanks again

[Slideurmom]

i have a water jet place making my plate and pully bracket . i might sell some sets if anyone is interested lmk.

[EP2009]

ur a genious

[Grantspec]

Hello all, Thanks for the continuing interest. And I appologize for my lack of updates.

I got the car back from the painters 2 weeks ago and was pretty discouraged. It looks pretty good in the pictures but In person you can really see a ton of flaws.

Here is a pic I took when I first bought the car 2 years ago.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/P3220175.jpg

Here is a pic of the car as I received it from the painter:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/100_2521.jpg

The lack of updates has been due to the fact that the car is at my parents house and I go to college in a different city. As you can see I haven't even had a chance to put the blinkers and such back on.

I plan on going to pick up the car this weekend and bringing it to college with me. Keep your eyes peeled for some updates within the next week or so.

Thanks again!

-Grant

[Nezahualcoyotl]

looks very clean from the pic too bad it didn't turn out so well as you said...
looking forward to the end product

[SDS13COUPE]

Awesome thread. I've got my M90 supercharger that I'm putting on my SOHC. Hopefully I'll put together a build thread soon. Good luck with your setup.

[sokodu]

Not here to thread jack but that kit was also known as the "Thomas Knight SC Kit." Me and a few of my buddies ran it back a few years ago. Good kit, keeps the car looking stock which is really good for us here in Cali. I ended up selling my kit for $1800 without management so if you can get this kit together like he did, it actually ends up being pretty cheap. You can find the Eaton SC's on eBay for around $100-$150, either off an Xterra or Frontier. I actually made the cad work for all the brackets and adaptor plates...just haven't gotten around to putting them through my CNC machine...too lazy and sold my car so I lost interest but I just recently picked up another s-chassis so maybe it's time to bring the KA24DE-SC kit back to life!

[fckillerbee]

Not here to thread jack but that kit was also known as the "Thomas Knight SC Kit." Me and a few of my buddies ran it back a few years ago. Good kit, keeps the car looking stock which is really good for us here in Cali. I ended up selling my kit for $1800 without management so if you can get this kit together like he did, it actually ends up being pretty cheap. You can find the Eaton SC's on eBay for around $100-$150, either off an Xterra or Frontier. I actually made the cad work for all the brackets and adaptor plates...just haven't gotten around to putting them through my CNC machine...too lazy and sold my car so I lost interest but I just recently picked up another s-chassis so maybe it's time to bring the KA24DE-SC kit back to life!

you mean the thomas knight kit we have been talking about for 5 pages?....don't worry...you didn't thread jack....just looked like a noob.

[deukalionS14]

^^ lol took the words right out of my mouth!

[Persona]

Be careful where you park that thing when you bring it to college man. If its anything like my university people just dont give a flying truck.

[S14Serge]

Supercharged KA ftmw!!! Really would like to see how the finish product turns out, something about superchargers that is really interesting to me.

Great build bro:D

[MomentumGT]

Guess it takes something original as this to bring an old timer back to Zilvia. Nice build. . . and very interested in the final numbers.

-Jon

[Hashiriya415]

How are you hooking up the IAC

[Bushido]

you don't go to college in gainesville do you?

[nism014]

subscribed +1 for you.

what size are the mb battles you're running?

[Grantspec]

The battles are 17x9.5 +15's with 235/40's all around.

I go to college at UCF in Orlando. I wont ever park this car at my college. My friend has had 2 integras stolen right out of the garage at the college in broad daylight.. This area is really bad with car theft.

Thanks for the interest everyone.... Unfortunately, I was not able to make it home this weekend to get the car. My next couple weeks are pretty busy as well so there's no telling when I'll be able to work on this thing. Kinda frustrating.

[S14Serge]

Dang hopefully all goes well and you get to work on this beast pretty soon bro, can't wait to see some final numbers and good tuning so we can see what this can really produce....

[hegamiz]

Can't wait! this is something i'd definitely be interested in doing, subscribed!

[fckillerbee]

anyword on it this week? lol.....still sooo interested.

[S14Serge]

Yeah it's so sweet seeing the Ka taken in different routes to make more power!

More updates soon plz!!:sadwavey:

[Devil Man]

yea post some updates on building a kit or something!!

[Grantspec]

Geeez okay already... haha

I plan on building 3 or 4 of these kits within the next couple of months and putting them up for sale here. The plates will be water-jetted and should be pretty quality... It will be on a first come first serve basis and I'm aiming for a price of 350-400 dollars for the adapter plate, tensioner, and intake pipe. Pretty much would just have to add the supercharger and fuel management.

I will keep everyone posted.

[Devil Man]

gahhhhh ok make sure you send me a pm when you make them!! try to keep it as cheap as possible! lol.

now i gotta sell my turbo stuffs. lol

[P_856]

ill be interested in the kit too

[KA_t FTW]

As will I. Currently selling my turbo mani/dp to fund one of these bad boys....

[mrmooseman]

hey sick set-up and well done on the fab, just curious for your sake...does the supercharger have a 4 rib pulley...if so wont that give the belt play room to walk around during higher rpms?

[Grantspec]

The s/c pulley is 6 rib and the belt is 4 rib... I don't think the belt is walking around it is pretty tight. There doesn't seem to be any slippage issues.

[AnotherZenkiKid]

Its different and different is good :D

nice job mann keep it running strong!!

[WagDatto]

So long as the tensioner setup is good and tight, and you have it lined up properly, there shouldn't be too many issues with belt slip. 10psi is the MOST boost you can get without custom making a crank pulley or boost pulley (or both).

It'd be dope to custom make a larger crank pulley that used 6 ribs..... Mmmm!

[DriftDamage]

Oh man I want this BADDDD!!!!

I dont have alot of money and going KA-T or SR is out of my price range at the moment. :'(

But this set up sounds super reasonable!! I WANT IT! :D

[S14Serge]

This would be amazing!!! Getting these kit's out there to people who don't wanna go ka-t!

[fcken_engus]

looks good

[murda-c]

would this work on an s14?

[240_fun]

would this work on an s14?

Why wouldnt it? Unless your concerned about OBD2

I too am very interested in a kit and need power before the season starts in april, keep me informed :D

[WagDatto]

Supercharger
Adapter plate
SR injectors
SAFC
Fabbed alt bracket/tensioner
Fabbed intake

You don't need to buy a kit to get this swap done. It's budget because you can do everything yourself! Get it done!

[SilviaSR20DET]

wow seems pretty simple to add on and great deal indeed if its for 1000... heck 240hp instant power is perfect for any kind of motorsports if you ask me. Keep us posted!

[SmogSUX]

Will an SAFC be good enough to add more fuel? Looks like this would be the pricing:

$350-400 for his kit
$150-200 for S/C
$50 for injectors
$100 for fuel pump
$150 for SAFC

[1_Bad_Silvia]

thats my first time seeing a supercharger on a 240sx. but it looks good man

[Nezahualcoyotl]

just noticed you put the intake filter where the battery was...
just wanted to know how it would look like if it had the stock intake or aftermarket piping. It would probably look more oem

[jonnybonds84]

There's a pretty good supercharged forum on ka-t.org if you guys wanna learn more about the whole dealio.

The main things to know is that after about 250hp, the m62 from the Frontier/Xterra is out of its efficiency range, and only produces more heat. Right up at 250hp, most people are running water/meth injection to cool down the intake temps as it is, anyway.

The down side of this setup is you're pretty limited to the m62 or the m90 (which takes a bit more work to fit on the header-size of the engine).

Still... instant boost, and the s/c plays off the strengths of the KA really well, too!

So I wouldn't be able to mount a M90 in the same location as the m62?

They seem pretty similar. Anyways I would DEF be down to buy one of the kits. Any update update on them?
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[240_fun]

So I wouldn't be able to mount a M90 in the same location as the m62?

They seem pretty similar. Anyways I would DEF be down to buy one of the kits. Any update update on them?


The reason you cant is because the intake for the superchargers are in different locations. The m62 is on the side close to the strut tower and the m90 would be against the firewall. Im not even sure if you could fit an m90 because of the clearance issue with a firewall but you would have to talk to someone whos tried it

[jonnybonds84]

Thanks for the knowledge sprinkles, lol. Don't know much about the different supercharger deigns. Has anyone ever cut the firewall and routed the intake that way? I guess you would have to re-route the heater hoses or just remove the heater core.

[WagDatto]

With the M90, to my knowledge, most people mount them on the header-side, and route the compressed air either straight to the intake or through an intercooler. It's more popular for the SOHC because you have a little more room from the smaller head design AND because you can't mount the m62 the way you would on a DOHC. It's the same work for them anyway, so why not go M90?

Problem is it doesn't look as clean. You guys should check out the Supercharged forums at KA-T.org

[jonnybonds84]

I'm pretty much set on going the blower route, I've been lurking in that forum for the past couple weeks. There's still not alot of info on the m90 though. I hear it has a lil more power than the m62.

[fender-startocaster]

i want a kit to!!

[240_fun]

Perhaps im just impatient but i want updates broski lol

[WagDatto]

I, too, am excited to see how this goes! Sadly, I'm trying to get out of my car and into another project... So the car AND the supercharger kit are both going up for sale... I will live on through you!!

EDIT: PM me if you're interested in the kit, this thread is NOT for me, this is Grantspec's build.

[Grantspec]

Sadly, I have no updates on the car or the kits being for sale. In the last three weeks I have had 4 midterm exams, and my sister's wedding that have taken priority. However, At the end of this week I am officially on spring break and instead of going to Panama City or Daytona Beach like all of my friends I plan on throwing down on the car. I want to get it ready to race by the end of next week. I PROMISE I will post some vids and such as soon as I can. Thanks again for the continued interest.

On a side note I drove the car a very little bit this weekend when I was home for my sis's wedding and it was awesome. :naughty: Seems to be running great.

[240_fun]

sick dude I cant wait

[nesianwarrior]

this is so dope!! for the longest time ive been lookin at supercharging my ka but gave up on it cuz i thought the price to custom build one was gonna be threw the roof. but you just gave me hope lol. loving this build and officially have been inspired!!

[fckillerbee]

I am going this route, I will let you guys know how it goes. JTP at HOTLINE PERFORMANCE will be making a kit....FYI....the superchargers are at least 400 bucks. unless you rebuild one...coming out to the same amount. but none the less...still a better route than SR if you are trying to achieve less than 250whp.

[Slideurmom]

I am going this route, I will let you guys know how it goes. JTP at HOTLINE PERFORMANCE will be making a kit....FYI....the superchargers are at least 400 bucks. unless you rebuild one...coming out to the same amount. but none the less...still a better route than SR if you are trying to achieve less than 250whp.

Do u know how much the kits are gunna be?

[WagDatto]

If you buy a core supercharger, they're about $100. You run the risk of needing a rebuild, or just needing some new bearings.

Y'all missed out. I just sold my full kit with two superchargers to ihatesmog for $900, had all plates, brackets, relocation items, all intake piping, an extra intake manifold, SR injectors, other misc things, and an emanage blue.

Keep plugging away at the kit, grant!

[jonnybonds84]

I wanted to buy your kit so bad, but I'm in the middle of moving and need the funds just in case. I think I'll be putting together a m90 setup later on.

[240_fun]

yeh man i totally PM'd you about your kit! soo not fair lol

[fckillerbee]

Do u know how much the kits are gunna be?

I do not, I'm guessing around 1500 to 2000. Just because everything will be new or like new. I've probably spent about 1,200 just in parts. from base model KA to running. Just so there is no reliability issues.

[Bushido]

i think the advantage to this setup is bang for the buck...

at $2000 i think it looses its edge against a turbo setup.

[fckillerbee]

i think the advantage to this setup is bang for the buck...

at $2000 i think it looses its edge against a turbo setup.

I considered this set up cause I daily my track car, and I need a reliable setup that wont break in 10k miles. And when cops pop the hood its nice and sleek. lol.

[mekta3]

oh sweet moses this is awesome, i need one now

[mekta3]

im finding Eaton M62's for Buicks and stuff, would they work? or is there a different bolt and manifold layout to them as compared to the xterra's m62?

[chinabean]

not bad! will read more about it after work ^__^

[240_fun]

updatesss?

[mattro]

^ what he said.

i might be mistaken but i dont believe ive seen a dino for this ether.


hurry up and do this so i know what to expect when i do mine. lol

[jonnybonds84]

^ What he said, need updates.....

[240_fun]

yeh cmon, if you dont make me some plates im gonna have to start doing it myself lol

[fckillerbee]

I'm waiting for my ecu. I bought the buick m62. It is the same. just make sure the measurements are correct.

There are a few of these build threads on ka-t.org.

[seanforney]

Looks like a lot of work, very nice finished product!!!!

[Grantspec]

The Buick m62 will be more difficult to use because of the throttle body location. The frontier m62 places the throttle body on the side rather than on the back of it.

Sorry again, for the lack of updates. The car is still at my parents house in another city. Only 3 weeks left of this college semester and I will get to put some solid work into it. Also I have been unemployed so I havent had any money to put into it. I am getting a job in a few weeks which should help out.

As for manufacturing these kits. I still plan on doing so but it wont be until this summer some time until I get started on that.

[kornaz]

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I WANT IT!!!! :D

[Grantspec]

Small Update.

I made it home for the weekend and decided to take the car to an auto-x. The ignition was breaking up really bad at 10 psi so I plugged in the by-pass valve which brought it down to 3 psi and it ran much better.

Here is a vid of my fastest run... once again 3 psi boost. Sorry for the shitty camera angle. You can very faintly here the whine of the blower over the exhaust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ-M6ZqrI2I

And the only picture I took. Staged next to my friends s13.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/P4180466.jpg

Anyone have any idea why my ignition might be cutting out at high boost?? I am running an s14 distributor with internal coil, NGK 7 heat range plugs gapped at .030". stock plug wires. Seems like this setup should be fine to me.

[240_fun]

Maybe its the internal coil? try switching to a s13 dizzy and a MSD coil

Or maybe try grounding ign stuff better, grounds do weird shit.

[Bushido]

wish i knew that you were in gainesville, i would have liked to see the car in person.

sounds cool!

[Grantspec]

Maybe its the internal coil? try switching to a s13 dizzy and a MSD coil

Or maybe try grounding ign stuff better, grounds do weird shit.

I had considered this but people make over 300 hp all day long with the s14 distributor... I'm going to try messing around with the grounds a bit, add some motor to chassis grounds, some better plug wires and see if that fixes it.

Thanks for the input!

wish i knew that you were in gainesville, i would have liked to see the car in person.

sounds cool!

Thanks man, come out to the next Gainesville scca event and I will most likely be there.

[Grantspec]

Couple more pics from the auto-x

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/nissakat/April%2018%202010%20autox/DSC_1575.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/nissakat/April%2018%202010%20autox/DSC_1591.jpg

[240_fun]

I had considered this but people make over 300 hp all day long with the s14 distributor... I'm going to try messing around with the grounds a bit, add some motor to chassis grounds, some better plug wires and see if that fixes it.

Thanks for the input!


yup yup im super stoked bout ur build as im sure you can tell. lol :hsdance:
and maybe i missed it but what did you use for tuning?

[Slideurmom]

tuned ecu from hybridka

[Grantspec]

tuned ecu from hybridka

yep.

2 weeks left of college then I can throw down on this car.

There is another auto-cross beginning of May that I plan on attending but with 10 psi this time!

[Bushido]

is that autocross gonna be in gainesville?

i'll def make it out if it is.


car looks sweeet, nice shade of blue

[Walperstyle]

How much would you want to manufacture another kit like that all parts included?

lol, another person that wants a simple 'bolt on' application. Its not that easy.

[Bushido]

^ why not? seems pretty simple.

[240_fun]

So what was the deal with the breaking up after 3psi?

[8Nismo9]

I think me wanting to get back into 240s and seeing this thread was destiny.Never thought of SC till now

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

WHAT? im 6k+ into my sr and it doesnt even run! fml......

Learn how to build/ work on your engine.

[Ceepo]

Learn how to build/ work on your engine.


+1

Sick car that whinning is awesome...

[kamilitaryman]

Learn how to build/ work on your engine.

Please don't open your mouth if you ain't got nothing nice to say. Didn't your mother teach you that?

[xanu8isx]

hey did u ever get a chance to tune ur KA? if u did would u so happen to have the programing for it? cuz im get the Supercharger and putting it on my KA and if u had it that would save me the time to get it tuned. if ur willing to send me a copy of it.

[shiftdrift]

haha ^^^^. ha.

[JDM Sil4ty]

cricket, cricket .. :tardrim:

[iamtheyi]

Man.. Thread started last year and still going. crazy :]. Really interested in your s/c build. I wanted to go KA-T but looks like I changed my mind :O

[DriftReddy]

I decided to do this about a week ago, I have myself an M62, but I cant find anyone that has a draw up/design of an intake manifold... hell, Id even by one... If any of you guys know of or come by one PM MEEEEEEEEEE lol

[240_fun]

the best way would prolly be to get a 1/2in piece of plywood and make your marks on that and cut out that and mock everything with it before you start an aluminum piece

[Mr.Worm]

wowwww thats sick as f*&k!!!!!!!!! nice job

[Grantspec]

Hello all,

Started my career recently and have been working on the car when I can. I am borrowing a friends JWT Rom tune for the time being and am taking the car to a drift event this weekend. I recently had to remove the supercharger to change the gasket between the intake manifold and supercharger adapter... I think one of the bolts started to vibrate loose consequently the gasket blew out. Other than that the setup functions flawlessly. I'm hoping with the JWT tune and the magnecore plug wires I ordered my breaking up issue will be resolved.

You can see the gasket hanging out here:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/photo2-1.jpg

Supercharger removed:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/photo-1.jpg



For the record. I am not selling these kits yet, however, I am still investigating the possibility... I feel like all the info you need is here in this thread to supercharge your KA24 (someone with a little bit of know how correct me if I am wrong). If you can't figure it out from my pictures and the info in this thread then chances are this project is not for you. I dont have CAD files of my tensioner plate or the adapter plate. I'm not trying to be a jerk Im just tired of my Inbox being full of "How do I supercharge my KA?" I have tried to be accommodating and answer most questions and will continue too.. Thanks for all the compliments!

I will post pictures and videos of the drift event next week!

-Grant

[mrsuave]

ive always wanted those rims, ha!

[JDM Sil4ty]

love the sunglasses jst chillen. ha. good story.

[Drift_This]

The ignition was breaking up really bad at 10 psi so I plugged in the by-pass valve which brought it down to 3 psi and it ran much better.

Anyone have any idea why my ignition might be cutting out at high boost?? I am running an s14 distributor with internal coil, NGK 7 heat range plugs gapped at .030". stock plug wires. Seems like this setup should be fine to me.
Ls1 coils and a stand alone. I know it's probablly outside of your price range but will slove the problem. My friends swear by it on their red top powered hatch and coupe, 2j powered mk3, 13b-rew fd, 13b fb, and ls powered miata.

[Bushido]

wheres the event? i wanna see this car in person!

[K_style]

no HP# yet ?

[killa.beez33]

nice! Assuming this is a custom kit/build yes? post moar vids or ban. :D

Have you tuned/dyno?

[Nezahualcoyotl]

Any updates?

[Grantspec]

Here is some pictures from the drift event. Car ran decent. Still having mysterious ignition issues at 10 psi so I ran it at 3 psi. As if the car isn't already different enough I'm ordering megasquirt. I'm going to make a new engine harness and start completely over with the fuel/spark management of this setup. Ill post updates on the megasquirt build as I make progress. Unfortunately, I don't have any videos of the event I completely forgot throughout the course of the day to throw my friends go-pro on the car.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/gcdrift18.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/gcdrift17.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/gcdrift16.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/gcdrift1.jpg

[Grantspec]

Some cool rain sliding pictures.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/gcdrift15.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Drummer0488/gvdrift3.jpg

[DanDriftS13]

^^^^ Where was that event at?

[Grantspec]

It was in Green Cove springs, FL. about 40 minutes south of Jacksonville. A local guy hosted it and capped it at 10 drivers. It was a blast we all got a ton of track time!

[mrizsuki]

love the pics of the water works ^___^ great build on that supercharger.

[matzinm2]

Hey great KA24DE-R! I am shooting for something quite like that right now.

However, I will be mounting my SC on the exhaust side (it's not the frontier unit so it won't fit the intake manifold.) ANyway, I may be blind, but how and where did you get the right pulleys and belt? I have an 8 groove on my twin screw and I will need to fab something quite like yours... however, first need the right pulleys! Don't want to break belts everywhere, you know?