2011 Honda CRX...er...CR-Z

[exitspeed]

What do you guys think of the production version? Looks like it's gonna be the first Hybrid car to have a tuner following.

Here's leaked pics of the Mugen Brochure.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/01-mugen-crz-brochure.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/02-mugen-crz-brochure.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/mugen_cr-z-00.jpg

The car comes out next year and will come with a 6 Speed manual gearbox. That's pretty rad. If you've happened to have read any of my posts about Honda or Acura you know that I loathe their current designs from both brands. THIS THING however is a home run IMO. It looks like a brand new CRX, which is just rad IMO. Not that I'd go out and buy one but it's pretty fuckin cool.

Here's pics of the leaked brochure of the stock car. Those seats just look dope.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/01-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/02-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/03-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/04-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/05-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/06-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/07-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/08-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/09-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/10-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg

[2Slow40]

I love the way this car looks.

[LeftNutOfGowd]

Fuck yeah i want one

[XeroX]

Back end kind of reminds me of a riced out prius...

Looks OK, but being a hybrid it gets a few extra points of win from me...not really my style however...

[speedgod^s13]

Wow, that Mugen one is straight tits!!!!! :w00t:

[exitspeed]

Back end kind of reminds me of a riced out prius...



Or more specifically the new Insight.

http://www.chinacarfans.com/wp-content/gallery/honda-insight/honda-insight1.jpg

[nevertheless]

I wonder how much it weighs...
guess it weighs 2800. not bad for a new car.

[fckillerbee]

tail looks like s500 mercedez. lol

[rb26man]

i had a crx...and this makes me want to get another one lol

[Soup Nazi]

Ugly......my old 1988 CRX looked better.

[ZilviaKid]

looks pretty cool.

any pricing anounced? awd version?

[flip3d]

looks alright. too small for me though.

[exitspeed]

looks pretty cool.

any pricing anounced? awd version?

No US pricing announced yet. It doesn't sound like AWD will be an option at any point.

[ronmcdon]

Or more specifically the new Insight.

http://www.chinacarfans.com/wp-content/gallery/honda-insight/honda-insight1.jpg

Yeah it's like a coupe version of the Insight.

Idk about tuner following though.

show-car tuner following,
I can't see having that much larger of a following than say the Fit.

performance tuner following,
I guess would depend on the other technical specs (which I haven't been following).
if it has FI or high strung proven vtec K20/K24, w/ the appropriate manual transmission pairing.

I loved the old crx si, and owned one myself.
It does look good.
It just has to boil down to how fun the car is to drive and it's performance.
Of course price (and to some extent fuel economy) is also important.

[Bubbles]

Looks alright here.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/01-mugen-crz-brochure.jpg

[NismoDriverS13]

that looks retarded!!! sorry im a full nissan enthusiast.

but i do have to agree that rpm gauge looks pretty tits!

[pink godzila]

The front end looks like the RX8 to me... specially this picture here

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/03-honda-crz-brochure-tov.jpg

[S14_Kouki]

Yeah it does not look to bad id rock one.

[BustedS13]

this would be a nice car to have in the city, and it looks killer

[Jtuned_andy]

I'll trade my v6 accord in for a 6mt version fo sho!

[thrax]

This car might win back some previous CRX owners who were dissapointed with the "del sol" replacement.

[Z32TT-R]

i like cant wait too see it on the floor

[zenki_240sx]

I like it!!!

[Ceepo]

That car is hot!!!

[Mr.350Gt]

alittle too futuristic looking for me but thats jus me...aanybody have the specs?

[RiversideS13]

the article said 0-60 in 9.7s

[ronmcdon]

the article said 0-60 in 9.7s

lol, screw that.
guess it really is the Insight coupe.

[upsdude]

at least it's 5-lug :)

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

fish face.

i have disliked this car since the original concept, and i don't see the attraction to this car, except that the honda boys have been waiting for it for a long time. it'll probably sell better than the insight does, so honda might make out okay with it. i dunno.

[sub9lulu]

aint got shit on this civic

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4081976762_6263132735.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2624/4081290581_5bbdc8b693_o.jpg

[ronmcdon]

fish face.

i have disliked this car since the original concept, and i don't see the attraction to this car, except that the honda boys have been waiting for it for a long time. it'll probably sell better than the insight does, so honda might make out okay with it. i dunno.

I think the appeal is that they're trying to make a hybrid 'hip',
to those who wouldn't otherwise consider it because of aesthetic reasons.
(the Prius & Insight aren't exactly the best looking cars out there)
Honda is probably trying to win over more ppl who buy cars b/c of looks.

You may not care for it (and tbh, I'm not too crazy about it myself),
but the overwhelming number of positive feedback on this thread alone,
is indicative that Honda succeeded as far as visual appeal alone.

[OptionZero]

Honda has:

S2k Chassis
a shitload of fun engines (K-series, F-series, even dated C-series)
some decent looking styling (Acura pre-gaudy grille)

And we get:

FWD hybrid coupe

Does not compute.

Make the RL RWD, stick a v8 in it, lets go GS/5-series hunting.

[exitspeed]

More production pics.

Man this thing is pretty cool.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/01_crzdetroitlive.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/02_crzdetroitlive.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/03_crzdetroitlive.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/06_crzdetroitlive.jpg

[BustedS13]

i really like it. it'd be a great commuter car.

[Quail]

The mugen one looks nice, but not so keen on the red one. The rear is horrible!

[OptionZero]

30+ MPG and only 122 hp?

you might be able to find a 1991 CRX that does better mileage and goes faster . . .

Honda fail. Not pretty enough, not fast enough, not fuel efficient enough.

Give me a Fit.

[BustedS13]

red is just an awful color for a subcompact.

[ronmcdon]

Where does it say only 30 mpg?

the horrid off-road suspension doesn't help much either.

[OptionZero]

Autoblog:
(http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/11/detroit-2010-honda-cr-z-promises-to-bring-driving-joy-to-the-hy/)

While we're really digging the looks of the CR-Z and the way it hearkens back to the classic CRX and even the original Insight hybrid, we've gotta admit that we're a tad bit disappointed with the specifications. With 122 horsepower on tap and just 128 lb-ft of torque from the 1.5-liter VTEC four-cylinder with Integrated Motor Assist, shouldn't we expect more than 36 miles per gallon in the city and 38 on the highway from the CR-Z?

If this thing is more than $20K its a total rip.

[ronmcdon]

Well 36/38 is more than 30, but still far from great.
Agreed the Fit (& the civic) are a better deal.

[exitspeed]

Well 36/38 is more than 30, but still far from great.
Agreed the Fit (& the civic) are a better deal.

I think it's a lot better looking then both. If it's priced less, and it fit (no pun intended) my lifestyle more I'd rather have this.

[no slide]

i think it looks cool, and of course people are going to buy it because its the "new cr-x" or whatever. but as far as performance, you can buy a new civic and it has more power AND get about the same gas mileage. oh well, to each his own. people who buy this car probably arent going to care either which way. its a hybrid, it gets decent gas mileage for a hybrid, and its the "new" cr-x. and its a hybrid. thats why people will buy it

[OptionZero]

waiting for someone to put a K24 + iVtec head + LSD in it lol

[ronmcdon]

well if looks alone is what sets this car apart from Honda's own,
then that's a bit worrisome in terms of looking it as a successful product.

Price-point will probably determine the CRX's chance of success.
At 20k, forget about it.
At 15k, it has to compete against the Fit.
Well, it's a sportier alternative to the Fit perhaps.

Yeah the civic is actually a very strong contender.
Like the way the car looks or not, it delivers.

the '10 civic hybrid gets about 40/45 (or so honda advertises).
It can also be made into a pretty decent handling car.
you just swap in Si parts.
To me, that's the best hybrid honda has right now.

[Bubbles]

The mugen one looks nice, but not so keen on the red one. The rear is horrible!

Agreed on everything.


30+ MPG and only 122 hp?

Give me a Fit.

Yes, I know people with Fits are getting well over 30.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

just read through the comments in the autoblog post..... looks like the overall sentiment is of disappointment. this is what happens when a mugen car gets leaked first.

[ronmcdon]

Mugen's tweaks are usually more on the cosmetic side.
Performance modifications are typically modest.

I think Autoblog was more concerned with the vehicle's overall performace.
There's only so much some fanciful body-kit, a $2,000 jdm exhaust, and other boutique mods will do to change that.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

Mugen's tweaks are usually more on the cosmetic side.

exactly. this car needs cosmetics.

[ronmcdon]

lol, it needs a bit more than that imo.
the CRZ is just irredeemable.

[exitspeed]

It's odd that O feel the opposite about this car for some reason. I've been so anti-Honda/Acura for so long. I HATE (yes that's a strong word, and that's why I used it) the entire Acura line-up. And I have only slightly less animosity towards Honda's line-up.

But for some reason I really like this car for what it is. It's not a Civic and it's not an Insight. Hell we've pointed out as a hybrid it's not even as good as either of those cars. on top of it it's a 2 seater...but it just does something for me.