Zilvia Police haters should LOVE This story.

[Brian]

The officers were sitting in the coffee shop before the start of their shifts when a gunman shot them at about 8 a.m. PT, Troyer said. The shop is a place where area law enforcement officers regularly gather to share information, he said.
Authorities identified the victims as Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; Officer Ronald Owens, 37; Officer Tina Griswold, 40; and Officer Greg Richards, 42.

The attacker walked to the counter as if to order coffee before he pulled a gun out of his coat and fired, Troyer said. Two of the officers were "executed" as they sat at a table, another was shot when he stood up, and the fourth was shot after struggling with the gunman all the way out the door, Troyer said.

"After, we believe, some of the officers were shot, one of them managed to fight his way with the suspect ... all the way out the the doorway until he was shot and died of a gunshot wound," Troyer said.

Sunday's incident was the first time the Lakewood police department lost any officer to a shooting.

Two employees of the coffee shop and other customers inside Forza Coffee Company were unharmed, Troyer said. One employee fled through the back door when she saw the shooter pull out his gun, he said.

"As you can imagine, they are traumatized," he said of those inside the coffee shop. "Some are in shock."

Investigators have not come up with possible motives, police said.

Families of the officers have been notified, Troyer said. All of the officers were in uniform, wearing vests and had marked patrol cars parked outside, he said.

'Horror scene' as 4 Lakewood police officers shot, killed | KOMO News - Seattle, Washington | Local & Regional (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/78088192.html)

[Pactin]

Wow, what an awkward way to title your thread.

[JRas]

no bueno

msglength

[g-via]

wow that's a pretty horrible thing to happen to anyone.

So you think people on this forum who don't like police for giving them VI's and speeding tickets wish that they were shot point blank and in cold blood? A little extreme.

[blu808]

this is terrible. I feel for the officers and the loved ones.

[NismoDriverS13]

yea....i dont like the attitude of most cops, but wishing them death? no way.

[jimmytango00]

for some reason the title of this thread is disturbing.

[drftwerks]

c'mon brian,

because a lot of people on here, granted, me included, dislike cops, im sure none of us would, wish any actual harm on another human being, with that being said.

my condolences.

[touge monster]

UPDATE: Police arrest 6 accused of aiding Clemmons after shooting | KOMO News - Seattle, Washington | News (http://www.komonews.com/news/78267897.html)

LAKEWOOD, Wash. -- Six people accused of helping the suspected gunman in the killing of four Lakewood police officers in a Parkland coffee shop evade police have been arrested.

Four were booked into the Pierce County Jail on Monday and early Tuesday for investigation of rendering criminal assistance on four counts of first-degree murder. They are Rickey Hinton, Eddie Lee Davis, Douglas Edward Davis and Darcus Allen.

Two women - Letricia Nelson and Quiana Wiliams - were arrested and booked on Tuesday night, also for investigation of rendering criminal assistance. Nelson is suspected gunman Maurice Clemmons' aunt, police said.

In court Tuesday, Eddie Davis and Douglas Davis both pleaded not guilty. Judge Bryan Chushcoff set bail for Eddie Davis at $700,000 and bail for Douglas Davis at $500,000.

Clemmons' half brother, Rickey Hinton, has not been charged yet, but has been booked into jail for investigation of rendering criminal assistance. Chushcoff set his bail at $2 million.

Allen, who was booked late Tuesday afternoon, has not appeared in court. He is being held under investigation of four counts of rendering criminal assistant and one count of making false statements to investigators.

Pierce County Det. Ed Troyer said Allen has served time in an Arkansas prison with Clemmons, investigators said. HE was sentenced to 25 years in prison for a 1990 double murder at a Little Rock liquor store. He was paroled in 2004.

Arkansas prison spokeswoman Dina Tyler said Allen and Clemmons never shared a cell, but lived in the same barracks - along with 50-100 other inmates - at various times during their imprisonment.

Troyer said while there are four people under arrest now, more arrests could come later as investigators piece together how others might have helped Clemmons after the shooting.

"We are not going to rest until everyone involved in this murder is brought to justice," Troyer said.

In court documents released Tuesday, Prosecutor Mark Lindquist painted Hinton as the ringleader of Clemmons' initial escape.

According to the documents, the Davises were at a home in the Auburn area Saturday night when Clemmons showed them and Hinton two handguns and said he was going to shoot police. Hinton, who identified himself as Clemmons' half brother, lent Clemmons a white pickup truck that night.

The next day, court records said, Hinton was outside his house when Clemmons showed up on foot, saying he'd shot some police and suffered a gunshot wound.

Prosecutors allege that Hinton then woke the Davises and told them to use another car to get Clemmons out of the area. Hinton then allegedly gave his cell phone to a 12-year-old relative, telling the boy to start deleting Clemmons' phone numbers from it.

The Davis' later told detectives that as they drove Clemmons away, he told them he had "taken care of business," the document said. They went to a friend's home in the Algona/Pacific area where Clemmons' aunt helped treat the gunshot wound to his torso, detectives said. Clemmons changed clothes and put his own clothes into a bag.

Clemmons got into a car with the woman while the Davis' got into the Pontiac and they all four headed to the Auburn Super Mall, where they met up with a female friend of Clemmons, documents said.

As Clemmons drove off with that friend, he called friends who lived in the 3800 block of East Superior Street in Seattle's Leschi neighborhood and told him he needed a place to stay and he was bringing a gun, and the residents agreed.

However, police said when those friends called Clemmons' aunt in Algona, they learned Clemmons had been shot and said he had shot some police officers in Tacoma. The residents left the home before Clemmons arrived and drove to the police station to tell police what they learned.

Meanwhile, Clemmons was dropped off at the home. The first Seattle officers arrived and noticed an African-American man on foot near a home and the woman driving away. Police stopped the woman as she was driving away and found a piece of clothing that had a bullet wound in front plus evidence of gauze and bandages, documents said. An 11-hour standoff ensued at the home on Superior Street, but Clemmons had somehow managed to get away.

The court documents also said Clemmons was later aided by at least two unidentified women - possibly Nelson and Williams, including a relative from the Algona area and a friend in Seattle who helped Clemmons clean and dress the gunshot wound to his abdomen and change clothes.





My heart goes out to the families of the 4 officers...

[Matej]

because a lot of people on here, granted, me included, dislike cops, im sure none of us would, wish any actual harm on another human being, with that being said.
You either love them or want them dead. Pick one.

[Sleepy240]

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/successful_troll.jpg

Back on topic...
Its a shame that things like this happen, especially in cold blood. I am happy that the people who perpetrated (except Clemons) this have been captured and hopefully are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I have a family member who is a police officer and its terrible to think that something like this could happen. God forbid something does happen you would never picture a scenario like this... RIP

[BustedS13]

THEY DESERVED IT FOR PULLING ME OVER 4 HAVIN A COFFEE CAN EXHAUST, BRO.
fuck tha police comin straight from the doriftoground
a young drifter got it bad cause i'm.... down

pigs aways hasslin us 4 DOIN WAT WE DO, JUS CHILLIN WAITIN FOR THEM NEW SB'S TO DROP AND I GET A REF TICKET? SHIIIIIIIIT, IF I WAS ALLOWED TO OWN/CARRY A HANDGUN IT'D BE A DIFFERENT STORY BRUH.

MOM WHERE IS MY EXPENSIVE WOOL NEW ERA HATS, DID YOU TAKE THEM TO WASH THEM OR SOMETHING

[Sleepy240]

THEY DESERVED IT FOR PULLING ME OVER 4 HAVIN A COFFEE CAN EXHAUST, BRO.
fuck tha police comin straight from the doriftoground
a young drifter got it bad cause i'm.... down

pigs aways hasslin us 4 DOIN WAT WE DO, JUS CHILLIN WAITIN FOR THEM NEW SB'S TO DROP AND I GET A REF TICKET? SHIIIIIIIIT, IF I WAS ALLOWED TO OWN/CARRY A HANDGUN IT'D BE A DIFFERENT STORY BRUH.

MOM WHERE IS MY EXPENSIVE WOOL NEW ERA HATS, DID YOU TAKE THEM TO WASH THEM OR SOMETHING

QFT sadly

msglngth

[SUPERSTAR]

Brian, I get it.

sad though.

But not for the police haters.

[kingkilburn]

That's pretty fucked, the title and the story.

[blasting_speed]

The title to this thread is stupid.

This is actually a very sad story. I feel for the officers family members. This is horrible.

[SlideWell]

they probably got shot for a damned good reason, and by someone that had absolutely nothing to lose. someone they probably royally fucked over in life when it really didnt have to be that way. i wouldnt complain if this happened more, but i wouldnt be happy either. yes, im an asshole.

[azndoc]

they probably got shot for a damned good reason, and by someone that had absolutely nothing to lose. someone they probably royally fucked over in life when it really didnt have to be that way. i wouldnt complain if this happened more, but i wouldnt be happy either. yes, im an asshole.

Wait what?

So your okay with the four police officers getting shot?

Like they deserved that shit and so do all police officers?

Why because they pulled you over for an exhaust ticket or something?

You know its easy to complain about a job when your not doing that job. Did you ever think to yourself how fucked the nation would be without law enforcement. Your car gets jacked who the fuck are you going to complain to.

Your mom and sister get raped, do you really have the balls to go pull the trigger on the man who did it?

The police protects us from a world full of chaos. Sure sometimes they can be hardass and total dicks but majority of the time that you get pulled over your in the wrong and you probably knew you were in the wrong. Just easier to blame someone else.

When I get pulled over I know I fucked up I'm not going to blame someone else for breaking the law like I did. If they are a dick I just say that perhaps they just came from a call where they had a pull a baby beaten to death from a trash can and so perhaps I should give them a break.

WTF is wrong with you.

[BustedS13]

they probably got shot for a damned good reason, and by someone that had absolutely nothing to lose. someone they probably royally fucked over in life when it really didnt have to be that way. i wouldnt complain if this happened more, but i wouldnt be happy either. yes, im an asshole.

yeah bro they probably made sum d00d take off his hks hiper. fukkin PIGS MAN

[beb]

Thank you Jack... Finally someone sensible.

I cant believe some of these responses, geez.....

RIP to those officers...

[Baron Fel]

I always like it when Shooting 4 Police Officers > Shooting 4 Regular People...

[beb]

I always like it when Shooting 4 Police Officers > Shooting 4 Regular People...

You are OT lol.

This is either about

- People who hate cops, saying stupid shit
or
- People thinking its okay that they died since they were cops

Your 'People thinking cop deaths are more important than the average person (my assumption of ur post)' has nothing to do with this....

[SlideWell]

actually its about somone who decided to post a story about 4 cops getting shot, thats were killed, with no disoverable motive, yet, and who might be tired of people bashing on cops, or, wants to get a raise out of people on here despite the growing concern of government and police power/abuse among the american population.

[DoriftoPnoy]

I think they shot and killed the guy yesterday....errr... 2 days ago

AMW | Captures | Maurice Clemmons | Capture (http://www.amw.com/captures/capture.cfm?id=69599)

[JayDee M Rolly]

why would anyone wish harm to other humans? granted there are asshole cops out there (not all of them are "pigs"), no one deserves this.

my condolences.

[tougekid]

actually its about somone who decided to post a story about 4 cops getting shot, thats were killed, with no disoverable motive, yet, and who might be tired of people bashing on cops, or, wants to get a raise out of people on here despite the growing concern of government and police power/abuse among the american population.


..quoted for truth.

[Dirty Habit]

http://www.dct-media.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ice.jpg

[enkei2k]

Wait what?

So your okay with the four police officers getting shot?

Like they deserved that shit and so do all police officers?

Why because they pulled you over for an exhaust ticket or something?

You know its easy to complain about a job when your not doing that job. Did you ever think to yourself how fucked the nation would be without law enforcement. Your car gets jacked who the fuck are you going to complain to.

Your mom and sister get raped, do you really have the balls to go pull the trigger on the man who did it?

The police protects us from a world full of chaos. Sure sometimes they can be hardass and total dicks but majority of the time that you get pulled over your in the wrong and you probably knew you were in the wrong. Just easier to blame someone else.

When I get pulled over I know I fucked up I'm not going to blame someone else for breaking the law like I did. If they are a dick I just say that perhaps they just came from a call where they had a pull a baby beaten to death from a trash can and so perhaps I should give them a break.

WTF is wrong with you.


YES! if you cooperate with cops/laws, they will cooperate with you, that's it. they have to follow protocol. i know first hand. i got my car recovered in less than 12 hours (although missing stuff) because of my local PD. if it wasn't for them, i probably wouldn't have gotten my car back so fast. :cops:

[oscarmagana]

Dude thats a messed up tittle. People in law enforcement put their lives on the line each day. What is your problem.

[butters149]

wow what a messed up title indeed, WOW WOW WOW

[ThatGuy]

Brian doesn't have a problem.

His Thread is titled as such because all people ever seem to do in the "car scene" is bitch about "stupid pigs". So here you go. All you stupid fucks out there screaming "Fuck Da Police!", step up and tell everyone how great it is that 4 law enforcement officers were shot in cold blood. Show everyone how HARD you really are, on the internet. "Fuckin Pig gave me a Wreckless ticket! All I was doin' is a little dori dori in my cousin's neighborhood/Wal-Mart parking lot/public street/mountain road. Fuck dem!"

Brian isn't praising the guys that commited this horrible crime, he is using sarcasm to get a point across.

I'm glad some of you are outraged at the Thread title, that means there are still some people with decency in America.

[Drift N Dragg]

^^ Completely Agree .... It's the Dumb ass's that scream it.. I have had ticket's in my Life and I was the stupid ass that was doing wrong and got caught.. no reason to be hating... This is a Sad Story... My Brother-N-law is a CHP and if something like that happened to him and some dumb ass kid was talking about it, saying " Fuck Dat Pig ".. I would probly kick the Holy Fuck out of HIM...

again, Sad Story..

[Brian]

Brian doesn't have a problem.

His Thread is titled as such because all people ever seem to do in the "car scene" is bitch about "stupid pigs". So here you go. All you stupid fucks out there screaming "Fuck Da Police!", step up and tell everyone how great it is that 4 law enforcement officers were shot in cold blood. Show everyone how HARD you really are, on the internet. "Fuckin Pig gave me a Wreckless ticket! All I was doin' is a little dori dori in my cousin's neighborhood/Wal-Mart parking lot/public street/mountain road. Fuck dem!"

Brian isn't praising the guys that commited this horrible crime, he is using sarcasm to get a point across.

I'm glad some of you are outraged at the Thread title, that means there are still some people with decency in America.

Just in case other people missed it.

[fckillerbee]

truely tragic....however I tend to disagree with these police officers being murdered in cold blood. Unless this dude is clearly insane....there is a motive. The first thing that comes to mind is dirty cops that played dirty, and that would explain why this guy that killed all 4 was shot....maybe to keep quiet. Just saying.

I have family and friends that are police officers, and no one deserves to live life without a father/mother/husband/wife/son/daughter. The families will suffer more than anyone. My condolences go out to the families.

If this is truely a "fuck the police" killing....then I'm sorry for thinking that this could be anything other.

As for the thread title....it caught my eye....knowing brian....he wouldn't say anything bad about any law/gov agency. You should know that by now seeing all the other threads he has started going against you stupid pig haters.

and yes...i drive an illegally modified car...so when they pull me over...i know the consequences...it's my fault. Dont want an exhaust ticket....MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF CALIFORNIA and kwitcherbitchindotcom!!!!! (stupid street racers lol)

[VROOOM]

truely tragic....however I tend to disagree with these police officers being murdered in cold blood. Unless this dude is clearly insane....there is a motive. The first thing that comes to mind is dirty cops that played dirty, and that would explain why this guy that killed all 4 was shot....maybe to keep quiet. Just saying.



yeah, and i was the 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll.

[fckillerbee]

yeah, and i was the 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll.

that's amazing....you should tell everyone how you got away.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

I don't think anyone on zilvia ever said they wanted police officers to die.

[BustedS13]

I don't think anyone on zilvia ever said they wanted police officers to die.

someone in this thread came close.

[Future240]

Brian doesn't have a problem.

His Thread is titled as such because all people ever seem to do in the "car scene" is bitch about "stupid pigs". So here you go. All you stupid fucks out there screaming "Fuck Da Police!", step up and tell everyone how great it is that 4 law enforcement officers were shot in cold blood. Show everyone how HARD you really are, on the internet. "Fuckin Pig gave me a Wreckless ticket! All I was doin' is a little dori dori in my cousin's neighborhood/Wal-Mart parking lot/public street/mountain road. Fuck dem!"

Brian isn't praising the guys that commited this horrible crime, he is using sarcasm to get a point across.

I'm glad some of you are outraged at the Thread title, that means there are still some people with decency in America.

I'm amazed so few caught this.


wait on second thought, I'm not.




someone in this thread came close.

Yes very close indeed. Funny how people love to hate the police till they need them.

they probably got shot for a damned good reason, and by someone that had absolutely nothing to lose. someone they probably royally fucked over in life when it really didnt have to be that way. i wouldnt complain if this happened more, but i wouldnt be happy either. yes, im an asshole.

[ericcastro]

YES! if you cooperate with cops/laws, they will cooperate with you, that's it. they have to follow protocol.

You couldn't be more wrong.
Thats why I have also taken a Police Department to court with a Laywer and the ACLU backing me.
Been in a bunch of newspapers and got an officer fired.

Also had to file complaints against Burbank police and guess who is currently under investigation from the FBI. Shit, one of the guys under investigation shot himself last week.
Guess at some point he didnt follow protocol.

My girlfriends reason for hating cops?
She had them come in her fathers house and rob him of his gun collection and her other valuables.
She also watched as they took her gold jewlery out of her jewlery box and stole it too.
Granted, it was corupt Chicago, but thats pretty fucked up.
Guess stealing is part of their "protocol"?

Of course, doesn't mean either of us wants them dead.

Brian doesn't have a problem.

His Thread is titled as such because all people ever seem to do in the "car scene" is bitch about "stupid pigs". So here you go. All you stupid fucks out there screaming "Fuck Da Police!", step up and tell everyone how great it is that 4 law enforcement officers were shot in cold blood. Show everyone how HARD you really are, on the internet. "Fuckin Pig gave me a Wreckless ticket! All I was doin' is a little dori dori in my cousin's neighborhood/Wal-Mart parking lot/public street/mountain road. Fuck dem!"

Brian isn't praising the guys that commited this horrible crime, he is using sarcasm to get a point across.

Thats completely different.
And the "Sarcasm" is stupid.
Cause its not even Sarcasm.
Its just blatant stupidity.
saying "fuck that dude", doesnt mean I want him dead.
It just means, I dont like them.
When someone says, Fuck that Angels, or Fuck the Redsocks, It doesnt mean they want them dead, they just don't fancy them.
Just cause I say fuck cops, dosent mean i want them dead.
Just because you dont like someone doesn't mean you want them dead.
There is a huge difference.

I think it has to do with where Brians other thread ended up going, so he's trying to get something out of this?........

plus, he generally just needs attention.

Just in case other people missed it.
Missed what?
You Failed hard at this thread.
how stupid it is.
http://yovia.com/blogs/davidappelman/files/2009/10/troll-web.jpg

I don't think anyone on zilvia ever said they wanted police officers to die.
exactly

[Brian]

haha ok Eric......
wah wah wah.

You sure put in a lot of effort to my "stupid thread that failed hard".

[allntrlundrgrnd]

HA, way to divert attention away from the fact he picked apart how ridiculous this thread is.

[Brian]

The POINT was to be ridiculous, in case you didn't get it.

EDIT: this should probably go in "Loud Noises". Obviously the general population cannot comprehend the point of the thread (title).

[fckillerbee]

+1 i got it.

[ericcastro]

haha ok Eric......
wah wah wah.

You sure put in a lot of effort to my "stupid thread that failed hard".
yeah, you got 3 lines and a troll pic.
I just dont get why you need to make threads like this?
Is it really just attention?

HA, way to divert attention away from the fact he picked apart how ridiculous this thread is.
exactly.
and according to Brians views on the last thread.
Once this guy is clearly in custody, they should be able to punch him a few times and not have to be held accountable for it either.

The POINT was to be ridiculous, in case you didn't get it.

EDIT: this should probably go in "Loud Noises". Obviously the general population cannot comprehend the point of the thread (title).

No, The general population doesnt think that cops being killed by some piece of shit is in any way funny, should be made into a joking matter or "ridiculous".

But I like that move at the end. (your edit).
When people call your BS, you act like your above and too smart.
smarmy my friend, kudos!


lmao!!!!!

[ThatGuy]

Once this guy is clearly in custody, they should be able to punch him a few times and not have to be held accountable for it either.
He's already dead. It's ok though, you don't HAVE to read the whole thread just try and call out Brian.

No, The general population doesnt think that cops being killed by some piece of shit is in any way funny, should be made into a joking matter or "ridiculous".
The officers being killed is not the joke here. The attitudes of all the "FUCK da Police" populace that blame law enforcement when they get caught BLATANTLY breaking the law, that is the fucking joke. The ignorance of these stupid fucks that think it's OKAY to drift on public streets, street race, highway runs, etc, and then bitch when they get "profiled", that is the fucking joke.

Your need to try and call out Brian for trying to make a point, telling him he is acting like he is above it, all the while you are trying to act like you are above his attempts to make this point... now THAT is hilarious.

[Brian]

yeah, you got 3 lines and a troll pic.
I just dont get why you need to make threads like this?
Is it really just attention?


exactly.
and according to Brians views on the last thread.
Once this guy is clearly in custody, they should be able to punch him a few times and not have to be held accountable for it either.



No, The general population doesnt think that cops being killed by some piece of shit is in any way funny, should be made into a joking matter or "ridiculous".

But I like that move at the end. (your edit).
When people call your BS, you act like your above and too smart.
smarmy my friend, kudos!


lmao!!!!!



Eric, you REALLY don't get it.
I don't know what else you want me to tell you.

Sorry.
Some people get it, some don't.
You are the latter.

[DataXUnknown]

Eric I usually love your responses to threads like these, but not quite this one.

People need to start bitching about the title of the thread and how 'rediculous' the thread is.

To keep it on topic, is there any news on what the motives were?

[BustedS13]

there are a couple people on this forum who didn't grow up in a country that had sarcasm.

[ericcastro]

He's already dead. It's ok though, you don't HAVE to read the whole thread just try and call out Brian.
I know, but I was making a point about BH and these post of his.

I read the story the other day when it was on the front page of Yahoo.
Happened a couple hours from where i grew up, yada yada.....


The officers being killed is not the joke here. The attitudes of all the "FUCK da Police" populace that blame law enforcement when they get caught BLATANTLY breaking the law, that is the fucking joke. The ignorance of these stupid fucks that think it's OKAY to drift on public streets, street race, highway runs, etc, and then bitch when they get "profiled", that is the fucking joke.
Ah.
WOW !!
what a weird and disrepectful way to do it!
Maybe posting a story of a kid getting pulled over with a "fuck the police" sticker on his car?
This just seems a real rude and wrong way to use these 4 peoples death as a way to say people should like all cops regardless and blindly??


Your need to try and call out Brian for trying to make a point, telling him he is acting like he is above it, all the while you are trying to act like you are above his attempts to make this point... now THAT is hilarious.
get a laugh then Barry,
but I think people "GET IT".
We just disagree.

I still say fuck cops.
doesn't mean I want them dead.
doesnt mean I dislike them all.
Doesn't mean I dont deserve a ticket if I am doing something wrong.
But there are times where it has been pure harasment in my life.
And I have spent a night in Jail because of it. (officer was fired and all charges dropped)
So I say fuck cops.
doesnt mean I want them dead.

To connect those two things together is insane.

[ericcastro]

Eric, you REALLY don't get it.
I don't know what else you want me to tell you.

Sorry.
Some people get it, some don't.
You are the latter.

If your trying to make sarcasm at the kids getting busted for shit they are doing, and being pissed at it, I understand that.

But I think this isn't really sarcasm.
Kinda off.

Posting an article about a section 8 building burning to the ground and a bunch of Welfare people died, would not be the proper and sarcastic response to someone saying "Fuck people on the dole".
Maybe you should tittle your stuff, "Black Humor".

Now if some kid was talking about, Yo, fuck cops, got a ticktz fo my N-1 exhaust pipez.
I shouldnt get a ticketz!!

And your reply was, "your totally right", "you totally shouldn't have gotten a ticket", or "that cop was so wrong, fuck him"
that would be a sarcastic response i would get.



Im sorry. I just think using 4 officers being killed by some lunatic shitbag is not an appropriate way to express your contempt for people that dislike cops.
Trying to say that if you dislike cops, then this should make you happy?
guess I don't "Get It".
cause nothing in this thread seems ironic, sarcastic or funny me.

[BustedS13]

Mister Castro, it's okay. you didn't get it. you probably do now, but you're embarrassed so you're writing a novel. but you don't have to. you can end all this. just walk away.

[Brian]

That's nice, Eric.
Your opinion is yours.

Have a good one.

[fckillerbee]

castro gets it....he just doesn't appreciate the title of the thread....saying that it's not sarcasm...it's innapropriate.

[Brian]

Oh well, too bad.

I don't think it's appropriate for people to bitch about the police every time they are "offended" by them.

[ericcastro]

castro gets it....he just doesn't appreciate the title of the thread....saying that it's not sarcasm...it's innapropriate.

I guess I get what BH is trying to say.
I dont think its sarcasm.
Its more of some Black humor or something.
I guess its a bit offensive to me to see 4 officers slain by some piece of shit being used to say, "hey ricer/drifter, you deserve those tickets, and if you say fuck cops, this is what you want right??"
So if that was the point, I understand, but dont "get it"
maybe Im old and easily offended.
Or maybe my late Uncle was a Police officer here in LA and I take offense to it.
idk.

[Future240]

I guess I get what BH is trying to say.
I dont think its sarcasm.
Its more of some Black humor or something.
I guess its a bit offensive to me to see 4 officers slain by some piece of shit being used to say, "hey ricer/drifter, you deserve those tickets, and if you say fuck cops, this is what you want right??"
So if that was the point, I understand, but dont "get it"
maybe Im old and easily offended.
Or maybe my late Uncle was a Police officer here in LA and I take offense to it.
idk.


Either way like Barry said, its good that someone is having a reaction to it, rather than everyone making jokes about it n such.

[fckillerbee]

I guess I get what BH is trying to say.
I dont think its sarcasm.
Its more of some Black humor or something.
I guess its a bit offensive to me to see 4 officers slain by some piece of shit being used to say, "hey ricer/drifter, you deserve those tickets, and if you say fuck cops, this is what you want right??"
So if that was the point, I understand, but dont "get it"
maybe Im old and easily offended.
Or maybe my late Uncle was a Police officer here in LA and I take offense to it.
idk.


I lol'd!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[SuperiorS14]

yea B, i mean i really dont care for them, but that your title is F'd man. i can only imagine what their familys are going through........ that sucks

[Bubbles]

yeah bro they probably made sum d00d take off his hks hiper. fukkin PIGS MAN


Bullshit asshole, no one likes the tuna here.

[Matej]

http://img.skitch.com/20090810-n8ufwsbyca2is9e29u63at9s5u.jpg

Brian Harte = Carles.

Meme.

[lewisfk]

http://www.dct-media.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ice.jpg

This dude is the shit, and yes i loved that song!

[kingkilburn]

How can you be mad at others disrespect of police while completely disrespecting these officers memories?

[IHasLongTorso]

I love how the people saying fuck the police are the same fuckers that's call 911 every time the slightest little thing happens. "oh no my car got keyed because I'm a douche-bag... I'm calling the cops" "someone broke into my whack ass car....I'm calling the cops" "my car got jacked...I'm calling the cops" "i got the shit kicked out me because i run my tool ass mouth... I'm calling the cops" all you asshats saying "fuck da police" don't call them next time you need them. you don't deserve their help. i have a lot of cops in my family and am considering being one myself. most cops i come across are cool. they do their job but are cool. as long as you are cool!!! dont give them a reason to be on edge and they wont be on edge and assholeish. why don't you fuckers just move out of the u.s. you don't deserve our freedoms.

[FaLKoN240]

You guys are dumb.

The title of the thread is in direct relation to the ridiculousness of the attitude of the members on the board.

Brian is being "silly/stupid" because the attitude people share towards police when the day doesn't go the way they want with them, their first reaction is "FUCK THE COPS" or "I hate cops" etc.

Just because you don't want them to die, doesn't mean someone else hasn't wished death upon them.

Your upset reply and pointless responses are proof that you have a guilty conscience towards the whole ideal.

[Drift N Dragg]

Well The Title is Harsh, But it is what, it IS...

Castro - You need to Relax.. I understand that the title Offends you, But I mean seriously do you need to make an Ass of yourself in the process?
- It's the INTERNET
- It's a FORUM, things off all Natures are discussed here.
- Not EVERYONE Shares Your, Mine, Brians, Anyone's Opinion.. Human Nature

So you Completly Disagree with the Title and Statements made in here.. And?

as someone said before, I do enjoy reading some of the things you post in other threads... Some Hilarious, Some Intelligent, Some Stupid.. Too Each there Own.. You made your point.. No need to continue your text/verbal bashing...

BTW - I have many people in my Family in the Service of different Law Enforcement Agencies, They admit some Officer's make stupid Bias Decision's, But that's not all of them.. There are alot of officer's that try everyday to make peoples lives better..

Sorry if this Offends you, But I need to say it.. WHO gives a Flying Shit if you got some Officer Fired.. Does it matter? Is that your way of "getting Rid" of a officer, instead of Shooting them?

You have mentioned more then once on this thread.. SO WHAT!!! Bad Cops are fired Everyday for some reason or another.. But these Cops (good or Bad) will not go Home to there Families!!!! Will not get a Chance to Change, if they were Crooked... Will not get to do the things you take for granted.. There families will be forever torn.. and your Response is " I got a Cop Fired! " - " Fuck Cops " ...

Sorry I just do not Understand you..

This is MY OPINION, Sorry if you Do not like it..

[DeathMetal]

I dont think you guys understand what "brian" was trying to get at.

I think this was a wake up call for you guys that hate on the cops so much.

These guys die in their line of work.

Think about that next time you get pulled over.

Edit; off topic but Brian, we have the same initials and first name.

Strange.

That is all

[Brian]

^^^^
That's because we are the same person.

[Matej]

How come the careers for which you barely need to pass high school are the most respected ones?

[ThatGuy]

How come the careers for which you barely need to pass high school are the most respected ones?

Because this country isn't supported on the backs of the rich.

[Xbroke_kidX]

How come the careers for which you barely need to pass high school are the most respected ones?

Because they are the ones that require heart and dedication, not a rich family or a dad who knows someone to get you into Harvard. Doesnt mean all the people that do these jobs have these traits, hence some asshole cops some good ones. Doesnt mean anyone deserves to die ethier.

Without sarcasm this world would be an even bigger shithole then it already is.

[Matej]

Most of the people I know who joined the police or armed forces are the ones who didn't take school seriously and after graduating realized there really aren't many other options for them. Of course I will be respectful of them, because someone has to do their job, and I know there are also ones who do it because they truly have a sense of dedication to serving the community, but no one will convince me that their career makes them a better person than anyone else.
I'm just saying this, because sometimes it almost seems as if the people who put forth the effort and sacrificed years of their life to studies and hard work are looked down upon. People automatically assumes they're rich snobs, as I can already tell from the two posts above, although even after all that, a lot of them still make less money, and start out their career life in debt. I'm pretty sure a world in which no one wanted to be let's say a scientist, a doctor, or a teacher anymore, would be a really terrible world to live in.

[Xbroke_kidX]

^ Agree'd alot of people that join the forces or try to get into the police acedemy are the ones that fucked off in school and now just need a way to make ends meet, those are the ones that wont last very long or turn into asshole cops. Somones career doesnt determine how much respect they get imo. How hard someone works and how dedicated they are determines respect. I would respect a Janitor who loves his job and trys his hardest everyday to keep the school clean so kids can have a better learning environment way more then some dumbass who joined the forces because he had no other options or just because he wanted to be tough and kill someone.

[ericcastro]

. WHO gives a Flying Shit if you got some Officer Fired.. Does it matter? Is that your way of "getting Rid" of a officer, instead of Shooting them?


I was wrenching on the car all day, and am exhausted....
I believe i was making a statement and point that there are rotten apples out there. Just because you act appropriately when pulled over, doesn't mean they may act that way back.
That was all.


I sent a PM and had someone spoon feed me exactly what Brian meant.
So I get it, and thats what I figured initially.
But most guys know I get easily offended.
Just seemed really wrong to me.
Sorry If I offended anyone.

[udon!]

fuck the police, and teh 5-0 too.

[Howard92884]

This happened right outside McChord AFB and not too far from where I live. My condolonces for the familys of the slain officers. For anyone who is condoning this go tell the nine children that just lost a parent that they deserved to die just for being a police officer because you had a bad experience with one before.

[azndoc]

Most of the people I know who joined the police or armed forces are the ones who didn't take school seriously and after graduating realized there really aren't many other options for them. Of course I will be respectful of them, because someone has to do their job, and I know there are also ones who do it because they truly have a sense of dedication to serving the community, but no one will convince me that their career makes them a better person than anyone else.
I'm just saying this, because sometimes it almost seems as if the people who put forth the effort and sacrificed years of their life to studies and hard work are looked down upon. People automatically assumes they're rich snobs, as I can already tell from the two posts above, although even after all that, a lot of them still make less money, and start out their career life in debt. I'm pretty sure a world in which no one wanted to be let's say a scientist, a doctor, or a teacher anymore, would be a really terrible world to live in.

Just out of curiosity what do you do for a living?

No sarcasm, just because I'm curious.

[SochBAT]

I'm with Brian!

All cops need to die!

Like, as of yesterday!

Seriously. Everyone take a fucking chill pill.

[fckillerbee]

fuck the police, and teh 5-0 too.

you clearly stated your a fucking idiot...5-0 and police are the same. buy a plane ticket to a 3rd world country where there isn't law to protect you. That's when I hope you get robbed by a 8 year old holding a AK....smoking a cigarette.

[fckillerbee]

see...this is what I don't understand...we have sooo many people in this country that hate it. yet they still live here as if the border wasn't a couple hours away. probably live in a hoa where raising the national flag is offensive.

[Drift N Dragg]

I was wrenching on the car all day, and am exhausted....
I believe i was making a statement and point that there are rotten apples out there. Just because you act appropriately when pulled over, doesn't mean they may act that way back.
That was all.


I sent a PM and had someone spoon feed me exactly what Brian meant.
So I get it, and thats what I figured initially.
But most guys know I get easily offended.
Just seemed really wrong to me.
Sorry If I offended anyone.

I am not Offend, Like I said we all have our OWN opinions.. Just seems like you took it alot different ..

and keep on Wrenchin... lol :p

[s13 @ fullboost]

That Is a real sad story I got the title when I saw it but I was not expecting to be something like 4 officers being killed while having coffee before work. I was expecting some funny picture what happened is really Sad and unfortunate Yeah I know there are many haters of the law and I know some if for good reason but majority is because the officer was just doing his/her job and sited you or caught you doing something. I have been harassed before I know our cars are a profiled car I Know that majority of law enforcement immediately changes when they see us they know our type "street Racers", and "Drifters" they wouldn't be like that towards us if people didn't always street race and drift intersections I drive a modified s13 do I street race? not really I mean sometimes yeah some civic or something will ride my ass and I will take off but never getting up to crazy speeds weaving through traffic. and who here is going to say they have never broken loose on the street I know all of us have but there is a big difference between just a little slide in the back of Costco parking lot compared to tandem in a busy intersection with people crossing the street. I respect the law and I believe you can kill them with your kindness where I live there are not very many modified cars so when I get pulled over there like " is that really your shift knob??" and I just laugh about it with them show them respect and they do the same back. With out law enforcement to protect us and enforce the law what would we be a fucking mess. my :2c:

[ericcastro]

you clearly stated your a fucking idiot...5-0 and police are the same. buy a plane ticket to a 3rd world country where there isn't law to protect you. That's when I hope you get robbed by a 8 year old holding a AK....smoking a cigarette.

LMAO!!
look who's old now hamburg!! lol
He is quoting a NWA lyric as a joke.
now both us old fuckers are in the same boat of missing a joke, lol.
must be because its your birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
old man.
see you sunday!

I am not Offend, Like I said we all have our OWN opinions.. Just seems like you took it alot different ..

and keep on Wrenchin... lol :p
no worries.
I just enjoy discusing things, seeing others views is how I learn.
prolly why i post so much.
fuck that wrenchin, its done for awhile.
or at least i am :)

[fckillerbee]

LMAO!!
look who's old now hamburg!! lol
He is quoting a NWA lyric as a joke.
now both us old fuckers are in the same boat of missing a joke, lol.
must be because its your birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
old man.
see you sunday!

damnit I didn't want to be the retard that didn't get it! lol. sorry to the above person for calling him a tard. lol.


no worries.
I just enjoy discusing things, seeing others views is how I learn.
prolly why i post so much.
fuck that wrenchin, its done for awhile.
or at least i am :)
:keke:.........................

[Dalton918]

Go to Detroit this shit happens everyday and it's usually because some dirty cops fucked over someone they shouldn't have.

Yo never know there's two sides to every story.

[CoreyS13]

Your one sick fuck.

[brndck]

im curious to know if a motive was ever found for this shooting.
rip those officers. best wishes for their families.
most police are good and honest and excellent public servants and i like them, but we all know about some rotten apples....
( i know its OT but anyone who drives a car that has been illegally modified and then complains about getting caught for it is an idiot.)
kthxbai

[mRclARK1]

they probably got shot for a damned good reason, and by someone that had absolutely nothing to lose. someone they probably royally fucked over in life when it really didnt have to be that way. i wouldnt complain if this happened more, but i wouldnt be happy either. yes, im an asshole.

Have you ever shot someone? Even for a DAMN good reason it is not acceptable in anything other than self-defense. This is not the wild west. The guy who did this is either a) Mentally unwell and/or unstable or b) a worthless murdering criminal. Shooting at four people like you're executing them while they sit in a coffee shop? Obviously targeted because they are police officers (I doubt they ALL 4 fucked this man over in some way)... This man basically committed an act of assassination.

And...

Fuck you.

Wait what?

So your okay with the four police officers getting shot?

Like they deserved that shit and so do all police officers?

Why because they pulled you over for an exhaust ticket or something?

You know its easy to complain about a job when your not doing that job. Did you ever think to yourself how fucked the nation would be without law enforcement. Your car gets jacked who the fuck are you going to complain to.

Your mom and sister get raped, do you really have the balls to go pull the trigger on the man who did it?

The police protects us from a world full of chaos. Sure sometimes they can be hardass and total dicks but majority of the time that you get pulled over your in the wrong and you probably knew you were in the wrong. Just easier to blame someone else.

When I get pulled over I know I fucked up I'm not going to blame someone else for breaking the law like I did. If they are a dick I just say that perhaps they just came from a call where they had a pull a baby beaten to death from a trash can and so perhaps I should give them a break.

WTF is wrong with you.

QFT.

YES! if you cooperate with cops/laws, they will cooperate with you, that's it. they have to follow protocol. i know first hand. i got my car recovered in less than 12 hours (although missing stuff) because of my local PD. if it wasn't for them, i probably wouldn't have gotten my car back so fast. :cops:

Exactly! Co-operate with an officer and they'll co-operate with you 9 times out of 10. But surprise... Officers are people too. Some are dicks all the time, some are some of the time, some manage not to let the shit they see nearly every day get to them.

Police officers do a job that is in a lot of ways, for similar and different reasons, results in a lot of the same stresses as military members and combat soldiers. Except all they often get is nothing but bad press and shit from the public. I know a lot of cops; and it would only take a decision on my part to join them... Take cops like you do people. Respect them as people and take them as individuals, but always respect the profession as a whole. Without them, like Jack said, you're fucked.

[kingkilburn]

Because of their power and authority society requires them to be held to a higher standard than average. That one bad apple does ruin the bunch.

Cops are not allowed to take out their frustrations from the daily grind out on the rest of us.


I personally hold the utmost respect for the work they do, but when I meet a cop I assume he is an asshole and let him prove me wrong. If he proves me wrong we both win.



(sorry for the disjointed comments)

[Omarius Maximus]

poe lease are government racketeers. I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't happen more often in the coming decades.

You eliminate organized crime, and substitute for them. Instead of extortion, you add taxes and easily breakable laws that give you leverage to imprison or fine citizens...no difference (except on is "legal").

[Brian]

poe lease are government racketeers. I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't happen more often in the coming decades.

You eliminate organized crime, and substitute for them. Instead of extortion, you add taxes and easily breakable laws that give you leverage to imprison or fine citizens...no difference (except on is "legal").
The sky is also falling.
Better go hide...

[kingkilburn]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YGLQQZTHoU0/ShLUkDq7-II/AAAAAAAAIIo/Zsd2FwCgHuc/s400/disney-chicken-little-sky-falling.jpg

[fckillerbee]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YGLQQZTHoU0/ShLUkDq7-II/AAAAAAAAIIo/Zsd2FwCgHuc/s400/disney-chicken-little-sky-falling.jpg
hhaha...i just watched that last night.

[AFSil80]

^ Agree'd alot of people that join the forces or try to get into the police acedemy are the ones that fucked off in school and now just need a way to make ends meet.

This is probably one of the most ignorant things I've ever read on the internet. And some of the attitudes in this thread really make me wonder what goes on in some people's minds at times...as far as all the people hating cops, have you ever thought that YOU might be the problem? I'm not saying all cops are perfect, because after all, they are human, but it seems that the people that gripe about the police the most are usually pretty far from being upstanding citizens...

[kingkilburn]

Being an upstanding citizen has no bearing on whether or not a gripe, complaint, or criticism is valid or not.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

poe lease are government racketeers. I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't happen more often in the coming decades.

You eliminate organized crime, and substitute for them. Instead of extortion, you add taxes and easily breakable laws that give you leverage to imprison or fine citizens...no difference (except on is "legal").

care to elaborate on what these laws are? not being a dick, but that statement strikes me as an odd thing to say.

[kingkilburn]

The only easily breakable laws I can think of are the ones that are intentionally vague. Things like your stereo or exhaust can not be louder than REASONABLE. Not, they can't be louder than some Db level but they can only be reasonable loud. On top of that it is all up to some cops discretion.

[SexPanda]

Well fuck. I still plan on becomming a cop.

[SlideWell]

WTF is wrong with me? maybe you havent been fucked by the long dick of the law Jack to totally comprehend how the excessive force and lying within the police units around the nation ruin many good peoples lives, or come damn near to it. i know when im wrong, but i also know my constitutional rights, and had them violated many times, at my home, and in public. getting justice served is few and far between, doesnt mean you gotta shoot a cop, but really, if you have nothing to lose, go for it. if someone raped my dead mother, or sister, id call a lawyer before ever speaking to police. police govern us, its what we DONT need, more government. the incredible ride in police forces despite the media telling us theyre laying off many, and still, crime is not dropping. i like cops, dont get me wrong, theyre doing a job, a job id love to do but never will be allowed to do, but when they make themselves the law, thats when it changes your perception on things. Seattle PD is and has been under investigation for quite sometime now for a list of shit. Bothell PD and the outlying cities is where i personally experienced the highest corruption and violation of rights/laws. and one last thing, constant LIES in police reports...where do you guys stand on that? every one that has been written on me had lies in it. attorneys see it all the time and attest to it.
"Friends and allies are important in today's warlike society. Where did all the honor, the honesty and all the loyalty go?"
"The Police is not your friend"

[Element_on_20s]

If you have nothing to lose, shoot a cop?

Jesus, what a terrible fucking attitude.

If you have nothing to lose, take your own life. That way you don't rob the life of a member of a family.

I'm still going to try to join the CHP.

[SlideWell]

If you have nothing to lose, shoot a cop?

Jesus, what a terrible fucking attitude.

If you have nothing to lose, take your own life. That way you don't rob the life of a member of a family.

I'm still going to try to join the CHP.

a wrongful law conviction can easily ruin the life of one accused man/woman and their family.

[kingkilburn]

The only decent law enforcement around Fresno are the Sheriffs.

[flip3d]

ALL the suspects are black. Wow.