What does the drift world need?

[Frydways]

What do we need that we don't have? I'm not talking about new courses, we all want that. I'm speaking specifically about stuff to promote drifting and help build the scene. IE, instructional materials in English, websites, clothing lines, tv shows, whatever. I know we have a lot of these already but many of them are sub-par. If you were to start making a drift related product/business, what would it be?

[allntrlundrgrnd]

all of those exist.


I say less interest.

[Element_on_20s]

I have an idea for courses.

More jumps, fires, and explosions.

Something like if Michael Bay got interested in drifting.

[Iron_Zenki]

.... oh wow

[alliance]

well it rele doesnt need nething i mean out were i live they have a meet for just rwd cars and every1 is talking about drifting to me the drifting world is perfectly fine how it is

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Yeah, I agree with less interest.

[Touge Noob S13]

The drift world needs an end to budget drifters and cheap parts.

[HyperTek]

stay underground!! bad enough these cars are exposed soo much that theft is now a major issue with guys who daily drive.

[datboibrad]

i agree it needs less exposure. it became a household name way to rapidly imo. i used to enjoy the fact that most people didn't get or understand it. now everyone claims to be some overnight guru on the topic and has made it way to commercialized. drifting at this point (which i blame largely on Formula D) has become a skewed advertising whored industry. people are building drift cars just to show off the name of some random company, all for the purpose of selling parts. allbeit all the major jdm companies did the same thing it was for the sake of growing the sport and culture. here in america its all about the money not the sport. this was obvious with Formula D from the start.

in a nut shell i miss the unknown and misticism. i wish americans didnt have the one up mentality that leads to so many over the top build threads which take away the real essence of the cars. people are espected to run wide body and massive wheels etc full cages and silly motors.

/rant

[SlideWell]

less exposure, lol. i was taking pics of my car with a buddy last night in the mall parking garage, only to have a group of guys say "what is this, tokyo drift?"
my response "whadya mean drift?"

[xBlastoisex]

chuck norris:wiggle:

[Sileighty_85]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Misc/CowBell.jpg

[HyperTek]

i agree it needs less exposure. it became a household name way to rapidly imo. i used to enjoy the fact that most people didn't get or understand it. now everyone claims to be some overnight guru on the topic and has made it way to commercialized. drifting at this point (which i blame largely on Formula D) has become a skewed advertising whored industry. people are building drift cars just to show off the name of some random company, all for the purpose of selling parts. allbeit all the major jdm companies did the same thing it was for the sake of growing the sport and culture. here in america its all about the money not the sport. this was obvious with Formula D from the start.

in a nut shell i miss the unknown and misticism. i wish americans didnt have the one up mentality that leads to so many over the top build threads which take away the real essence of the cars. people are espected to run wide body and massive wheels etc full cages and silly motors.

/rant

drifting wont lead to any real FIA international motorsports anyways.. thats where all the fortune and fame is at. international superstar status. Your not gonna get rich dreaming about becoming a pro formula d drifter

but yeah corporate america does kinda ruin things.. RWD Scion TC? :keke:

[toejam]

lol @ cowbell.

[kushlivin]

Don't worry everybody it'll die out just like the honda/drag scene

[deolio]

less knockoffs, shitty offsets, half-assed cars, and less dumbasses making drifters look like a bunch of rowdy idiots

[fliprayzin240sx]

What does the drifting world need or what does the S-chassis world needs?!?! My opinion, we need to promote Bipu (VIP) so that can be the next fucking bandwagon and less fucking attention to S-chassis.

[kushlivin]

What does the drifting world need or what does the S-chassis world needs?!?! My opinion, we need to promote Bipu (VIP) so that can be the next fucking bandwagon and less fucking attention to S-chassis.
^^^^^ true that==^^

[JayDee M Rolly]

What does the drifting world need or what does the S-chassis world needs?!?! My opinion, we need to promote Bipu (VIP) so that can be the next fucking bandwagon and less fucking attention to S-chassis.
IMO its already getting there. my friend sold his 240 a few months back to get a GS because VIP is "the way to be", yet now he says he misses a sports car...

[SlideWell]

shit, 4 door vip drift is my next car.

[Skyn]

i agree with above statement ^^^^


and also the local events need some gogo girls in cages and live bands

[Sileighty_DRFT89]

it needs to just be done for the love of the sport. and not to just show off and look cool. but to actually be into it and do it because of oneselfs true passion. I've seen way to many guys just get 240s and be like yeah.... I drift.... and try and sound like they're the new drift king or something.

[dennydizzo]

i say less exposure. Tired of lil kids asking me if i got a sr under my hood and if they can bust a "tOkYo dRiFT" im my car

[kalypso123]

moar 3 piece wheel companies... electric motors... cheaper tires... and (until electric) cheaper gas prices.

[imnotniko]

somewhere on longisland for people to drift!

[Xbroke_kidX]

Less people like you trying to promote and make drifting a big industry, its a hobby done for the love of it. And it should be left at that

[Walperstyle]

$50 says this thread was created because its part of a school project where the student will most likely get a very low mark. See these on the internet every year around this time.

[datboibrad]

drifting wont lead to any real FIA international motorsports anyways.. thats where all the fortune and fame is at. international superstar status. Your not gonna get rich dreaming about becoming a pro formula d drifter

but yeah corporate america does kinda ruin things.. RWD Scion TC? :keke:

i wasnt saying money as in the drives making money. im referring to the corporations flooding the market. and yes rwd scions with nascar toyota truck motors is just wtf.

[Moon Ill]

A federal maximum speed-bump height.

[veeates36]

A federal maximum speed-bump height.

Yes sir..^^^ It sucks having to make guesstimates on weather or not I can get over a speed-bump without scraping anything. Haha

[punxva]

A federal maximum speed-bump height.

that relates to nothing about actually drifting...

[S14_Kouki]

Tires that dont make noise when you slide. Has that been said yet???

[Brian]

Drifting is stupid. Waste of tires, cars, etc.

[ericcastro]

Tires that dont make noise when you slide. Has that been said yet???
LMAO!!
only good response.


Drifting is fine where it is.
Its actually in a pretty good place.

-Formula D is starting to have some decent privateers come through and shake things up and rattle the corporate sponsors a bit.
-Professional Drifters are being able to show a bit more of thier personality and dont have to worry about being such a perfect corporate role model.
-Pro Drifting is getting fun again. (Mattly Crue, JTP, Ross, JR, DA initiation contest.)

-Cheap knock offs are great. I use the hell out of them. I wouldnt be able to drift with out them, and alot of other people wouldnt either.(less drivers means less events, higher event cost.)
i use knock offs and cheap parts as expendable.
If I spent real money on a body kit and paint i would kick myself in the ass since I break it every event and refiberglass and vynil it.

-I do it all for the love and enjoyment. just like I did skateboarding for 15 years. Its just the younger mans nature to show off a bit. Not just with drifting, whatever your into. its human nature, its designed into our brains to show off to attract a mate and attention.
At least we dont go into heat and leak hormones out our eyes or have big feather plumes we puff up when chicks are around.
At least we as humans can enjoy our "flare" ;)

-Drifting will die down a bit.
And when it does, you will be so happy.
-There will be so many parts and shells and cars available.
Kinda like you can get anything Honda for dirt cheap now.
-Every tricky mod and parts swap has been figured out and documented. So in a couple years, building a TRACK or DRIFT or DRAG car will be alot easier to do yourself in your garage.

-I also like to believe that being a "name" here in SoCal lets me influence kids in a decent way through drifting. My life is an example iof anything is possable with dedication and believing in yourself. Wether its what I do with a single cam, getting girls, or coming from nothing as a drop out and ending up in the movie biz in hollywood. (driftings cheapness and flare generally attracts people with less means from areas of society where the belief is that you just live in your neighborhood and never really get anywhere in life)




-We do have a little to many tracks in SoCal. (imo)
Flame me all you want.
But that new track, Borderline. I was there 3 times this week and spent $400 on tires and track time.
And made a banner for free, promoted to friends and some other stuff.
And it was still pretty dead.

I believe we need a couple CORE events.

-We also have people involved in drifting for the money and vanity. There are people that have little websites, make videos, host other peoples photos without paying and basically promote themselves and thier own vain intention.
Those people need to stop being leaches and find thier own "fame" somehow and quit being such judas's.


A bit long on a couple thoughts....................imo.

[ESmorz]

\I believe we need a couple CORE events.

-We also have people involved in drifting for the money and vanity.

This. There needs to be a few big events along the same lines of ASB but a little less exclusionary. Not just a bunch of tiny rag-tag events with all these different groups and "crews". If I wanted to go to an event I wouldn't go to anything coming up in the motorsports section because it will just be more of the same and associated with the above statement, except for maybe the SoCal-Drift Series.

Anyone who is in drifting for money is a fool, and will find that out quick. I think that's the least of the community's worries.

... but hey what the hell do I know? I don't even drive my 240.


:wackit:

[Brian]

ASB will not be matched nor outdone. ever.

[ESmorz]

ASB will not be matched nor outdone. ever.

"along the same lines"

You know better than I do, and as much as I hate to admit it you created something that anyone in the American drift scene knows about, looks forward to going to, and even looks forward to seeing the media from.

A few more things kind of like it, maybe even with workshops for less experienced drivers on the tracks not being used by the main event focused more around getting people up to speed to participate, more cars, more awesome to add to the main event.

I think if you (or someone) set something like that up it would be a hit and could be the end all be all to merge a lot of the splintered groups there seems to be around these parts. Unless ASB's allure lies in how rare it is and that's the only reason it works.

That's all I have to say about it.

[jzepol1985]

Less people like you trying to promote and make drifting a big industry, its a hobby done for the love of it. And it should be left at that


^^^ What this guy said.

[ericcastro]

"along the same lines"

You know better than I do, and as much as I hate to admit it you created something that anyone in the American drift scene knows about, looks forward to going to, and even looks forward to seeing the media from.

A few more things kind of like it, maybe even with workshops for less experienced drivers on the tracks not being used by the main event focused more around getting people up to speed to participate, more cars, more awesome to add to the main event.

I think if you (or someone) set something like that up it would be a hit and could be the end all be all to merge a lot of the splintered groups there seems to be around these parts. Unless ASB's allure lies in how rare it is and that's the only reason it works.

That's all I have to say about it.

I forgot, i was gonna say something about instructors.
At Auto Cross, they totally help you and you just need to be humble and ask, and we all do.
For some reason, the attitude of new drifters............We offer to help at the begining of events, try and be approchable, and they would still rather go out and spin out all day then say,
"hey, can you help me learn this?"
and actually be drifting by the end of the day.

Shit, Im so nice that if someone PM'd me, I might go to an event just to instruct them and get them drifting.
But the fucking ego of the guys that dont know how to drive.................

[Brian]

"along the same lines"

You know better than I do, and as much as I hate to admit it you created something that anyone in the American drift scene knows about, looks forward to going to, and even looks forward to seeing the media from.

A few more things kind of like it, maybe even with workshops for less experienced drivers on the tracks not being used by the main event focused more around getting people up to speed to participate, more cars, more awesome to add to the main event.

I think if you (or someone) set something like that up it would be a hit and could be the end all be all to merge a lot of the splintered groups there seems to be around these parts. Unless ASB's allure lies in how rare it is and that's the only reason it works.

That's all I have to say about it.


I understand.

I'm not sure what would be better though.

1. making sure to exclude people.
or
B. Including more people for the general betterment of "drifting".


lol.
:s101::s101::s101::s101::s101::s101::s101::s101::s 101:



In reality though, I would love to teach people to have more fun and whatnot. Sounds great.

[keistyle]

too much spanish

[Brian]

Oh yeah here are some on topic things.

what the drift world needs.

1. less people building budget junkers.
2. less primer paintjobs.
3. less flat paintjobs.
4. less matte paint jobs.
5. less satin paint jobs.
6. less generic junk parts.
7. less punky assholekids.
8. more real paint jobs.
9. more pride in the car.
10. less vinyl paint jobs. (sorry kenny Anderson)
11. more cool stickers.
12. more teams and cool style.



that's some of it.


In general, less people giving it a bad name and bad style.

[tanks13]

I forgot, i was gonna say something about instructors.
At Auto Cross, they totally help you and you just need to be humble and ask, and we all do.
For some reason, the attitude of new drifters............We offer to help at the begining of events, try and be approchable, and they would still rather go out and spin out all day then say,
"hey, can you help me learn this?"
and actually be drifting by the end of the day.

Shit, Im so nice that if someone PM'd me, I might go to an event just to instruct them and get them drifting.
But the fucking ego of the guys that dont know how to drive.................


hey ill take you up on that offer man check you pm its for the 27 or the 28 at the chp event

[brndck]

we need more drift avengers..... :hahano::hahano::hahano:

no, like brian said, we need more STYLE.
CREWS are going to be the next thing to take it up a level.
mulsanne started down the right path, but then they all crashed/blew engines etc.
essence definitely has the right idea.
we need us versions of spirant cars.
c's garage FOR SURE has it.
instant party mostly has it. (i liked glebs s13.4 more than the bn blister 180, but thats just imo)
i've always thought that WELD technique factory has it.
the divine wind s14 HAS IT.
risky devil CLEARLY has it.
edgar (arcticdragon192) has it, maybe he and i can start a "crew".

we need more FULL interior. not just, hey i still have my stock interior, but like broadfield has. EVERYTHING modified, not just, hey i got an sr, a fmic, hellaflush fitment, and whatever snowplow knockoff kit i could find. your car is your personal canvas, make it memorable.

we need more custom license plates.

we need LESS big white sticker windshield banners.
the only good one i've seen in a LONG time was the "big sticker" one that was on either an xb or a honda pilot or something boxy like that.

we need more jam style events.

i need a nap.

[thefro526]

IMO, the whole "My car is a piece of shit drift car" mentality needs to die.

Drift Cars Need to Look Cool.

Drifting is a Motorsport that is based on Style and how cool you look. No one wants to see some haggard car drifting.

Also, Knock-Off parts are whatever. If your Car is Cool, and you can drive the crap out of it, then Knock-Off or Name Brand parts don't matter.

But, if you choose to use knock-off parts that are known to have questionable quality- don't complain if they break. You get what you pay for. (Now if you went out and dropped some coin on some good name brand stuff and it broke then you have every right to be mad.)

Also, More of this:


11. more cool stickers.

[stoneysideways]

unlike everyone else i think we need more exposure, because without exposure we'd be back to drifting on the streets praying we don't get caught by the cops. exposure is the reason we enjoys so many track days, especially here in so-cal.

we need bigger industry sponsors, less knock-off parts, like Brian and brndck said real teams that take pride in their cars. less people who are just searching ebay parts and knock-offs.

If our main concern is budget parts and keeping it underground. Obviously you have the wrong hobby whether it be drifting, time attack, drag or shows. Fact is without exposure and real companies such as hks, greddy, and etc. we wouldn't be able to enjoy the various car hobbies we do today.

[tricky_ab]

less knockoffs, shitty offsets, half-assed cars, and less dumbasses making drifters look like a bunch of rowdy idiots

Oh yeah here are some on topic things.

what the drift world needs.

1. less people building budget junkers.
2. less primer paintjobs.
3. less flat paintjobs.
4. less matte paint jobs.
5. less satin paint jobs.
6. less generic junk parts.
7. less punky assholekids.
8. more real paint jobs.
9. more pride in the car.
10. less vinyl paint jobs. (sorry kenny Anderson)
11. more cool stickers.
12. more teams and cool style.



that's some of it.


In general, less people giving it a bad name and bad style.


This! *Slow golf clapping*

[ericcastro]

Sorry guys, But I have to disagree with your whole shit pile drift car argument.

but I think there needs to be a division.
My car
I beat the living shit out of and am learning to drift in as well as slide walls, tandem and whatnot.
Imagine if I put the time into the car BH did.
i would also drift once a year like BH and crash every other year due to driver error. (sorry buddy, your definatly not the only one. just on this thread.)
And then to buy the parts and make the car look amazing, it would take another year.
I LIKE TO DRIVE.
I like to tap walls and practice my precision.
So I need to do something that fits that.
knock off Fiberglass body, cheap parts that work, vinyl to cover the repairs.

some examples of my damage.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/DSC02110.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/DSC02112.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/Bodykit.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_7494.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_7436.jpg

Now If my car looked like BH's, or some of the other great cars, I would not be able to finacially maintain the car.
I also went drifting 3 times this week.
I drive at least once a month and have for a few years now.
If I make enough money to move into a house, I will start building a car specifically for proam.
It will look great and be something I can be proud of.
But I wouldnt ever be able to get to that point if I didnt treat this car like I do and cut hte corners I do.
Other people can be proud of a matierial object that their wallet built, but I am proud of my driving skills behind the wheel.
I could give a fuck about a $1,500 car guys.
Why do you think I drift it and not a newer Z??

now


Other people
the primer hatches that you see everywhere.
the "drift" cars.
The thing is, these guys cant even hold a donut or drift at all. But they pretend they can.
They are the same guys that would rice out honda's if it was still 1997.
put on grapefruit shooters, crazy bodykits and try and race you on the freeway with an intake on the engine and cut springs.
They are just fanboying and fad chasing and it doesnt really matter.
I dont consider those people part of any sort of drift culture.
And just like the F&F scene, its gonna be a long time till it goes away.
so just stop being so paraniod that the world is grouping you together.
If you dont like it.
Choose a car platform that cost over $5000 and you wont have to worry.

[Brian]

lol Castro, your car is BEAT.

Swap to that orange S13 in the driveway. It looks much better.

[slow40sx]

Oh yeah here are some on topic things.

what the drift world needs.

1. less people building budget junkers.
2. less primer paintjobs.
3. less flat paintjobs.
4. less matte paint jobs.
5. less satin paint jobs.
6. less generic junk parts.
7. less punky assholekids.
8. more real paint jobs.
9. more pride in the car.
10. less vinyl paint jobs. (sorry kenny Anderson)
11. more cool stickers.
12. more teams and cool style.



that's some of it.


In general, less people giving it a bad name and bad style.

:bowrofl: so true so true

[OBEEWON]

I swift kick in the pants.

[OBEEWON]

Castro speaks gospel. Building<Driving something I wish I figured out a long time ago.

[nsn240]

all of those exist.


I say less interest.

I couldn't agree more

[Touge Noob S13]

Judging by the damage to your car Eric, you were doing more than just "tapping" walls lol. Although I disagree on your veiw of these cars I do respect your veiw on the "other people".

[Edgar]

:) :) :) :) :)

less egos

[Brian]

less penis.

[Edgar]

agreed!!!!!!!

[udon!]

i seriously think that zilvia should not let anymore people join.

or at least they have to submit an app and THAT GUY has to approve of it.

[VYKTR]

Drifting Bobbies:naughtyd: Sadly not many females drift. But respect to those that do. They BOSS.

[ericcastro]

lol Castro, your car is BEAT.

Swap to that orange S13 in the driveway. It looks much better.

Its Marios car.

The rear end is tapping walls.
once you tap the bumper a few times, it comes off, and you gotta get deeper in to touch the tail lights.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2616/4105323430_0581610c6e.jpg
shit buffed out.


I will hopefully build a car in a garage next year.
This car serves its purpose too though.:wan:

wait till I get a daily and a trailer, I can try higher speeds and deeper angle and not care if this happens.
http://noriyaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/noriyaro_ebisu_summer_drift_matsuri_2009_sunday_01 5.jpg
as long as the subframe aint bent :naughty:

[Brian]

Oh yeah, I'm scared to think that "missiles" might become popular. :(

[Jimmy Up]

it needs to just be done for the love of the sport. and not to just show off and look cool. but to actually be into it and do it because of oneselfs true passion. I've seen way to many guys just get 240s and be like yeah.... I drift.... and try and sound like they're the new drift king or something.

Hows your back bumper DK?

[ericcastro]

Oh yeah, I'm scared to think that "missiles" might become popular. :(
They will.
By default.
By people that love to drive.

I didn't want my car to look all fucked up.
But thats what happens when you are learning to drive, do events monthly or more and keep pushing yourself.

When I feel I am ready, I will build a astetically pleasing car. You can supervise BH, lol.

[jeffwiggins]

i agree it needs less exposure. it became a household name way to rapidly imo. i used to enjoy the fact that most people didn't get or understand it. now everyone claims to be some overnight guru on the topic and has made it way to commercialized. drifting at this point (which i blame largely on Formula D) has become a skewed advertising whored industry. people are building drift cars just to show off the name of some random company, all for the purpose of selling parts. allbeit all the major jdm companies did the same thing it was for the sake of growing the sport and culture. here in america its all about the money not the sport. this was obvious with Formula D from the start.

in a nut shell i miss the unknown and misticism. i wish americans didnt have the one up mentality that leads to so many over the top build threads which take away the real essence of the cars. people are espected to run wide body and massive wheels etc full cages and silly motors.

/rant

you cant blame formula d, they just like everyone else in this country are trying to make money. i think its cool that the world of drift is getting out there and being realized. if it wasn't for things like formula d, d1gp, and other big events out here we wouldn't have more venues opening up for amateur drift competitions that our fellow people can drive in. all they are doing is making it easier to get your cars off the streets and have a legal place to have fun. i no people are not going to agree and ill probably get shit on for posting this but hey o well im backing up track drifting on this one

[Brian]

driving is good and great, but having the car look like it came from the city dump is NOT cool.... I think.

EDIT: not sure if my opinion on drifting is even valid, considering I RARELY do it anymore.

[SUPERSTAR]

It needs me in a mankini and Drifting will change for ever.

Drifting has 2 sections, one is the sport of it, still growing.
The other is the Lifestyle people adapted too and decided to keep.


Then you have the DK's, but with any new trend, new people will join in.

But Drifting in both sections needs to be done for the FUN of it.

[Brian]

It needs me in a mankini and Drifting will change for ever.


:wan::wan::wan: I suppose soooooooo :wan::wan::wan:

[SUPERSTAR]

Oh yeah and more grassroots DVD's. Lots of them...like millions.

[Brian]

:wan::wan::wan: I suppose soooooooo :wan::wan::wan:

I stand by this.

:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

[SUPERSTAR]

I stand by this.

:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

Wait for next ASB. I will wear something better than Nate at FD...lol

[mattheripper]

Didn't read every post. I'd say. Less Formula D more MSC style.

[Touge Noob S13]

More sexy JDM boys and less fat people.

[ranger240]

how about newer cars that can make viable stateside drift cars.

people cannot expect this 'sport' to flurish without an continual stream of 10-15 year old cars with suitable attributes.

lack of supply is what is going to kill off driftings popularity.

the current general supply of drift cars is early 90s japanese stuff. japanese sports coupes (rx7s, 300zxs, 240sx's, etc) all evaporated from the U.S. market by the mid to late 90s.. that means we're going to have a dry spell of suitable newer drift cars until 350zs or whatever become cheap.

people cannot expect 20 year old s13s to carry popularity with general public for much longer

[ericcastro]

EDIT: not sure if my opinion on drifting is even valid, considering I RARELY do it anymore.

thats another kinda grey line.
Most of the guys with amazing cars we all envy, dont really drive them anymore.
so its kinda hard to validate the point of dope cars vs cars that are beat on at the track every month.

its one or the other for most of us.
Great cars,
vs,
lotta seat time.




we prolly just need more ferrari and jaguar kited 240's in drifting, lol.

.............. less fat people.
so less americans in drifting?? lmao!!

[gripstr]

We need a bailout!

[tricky_ab]

wait till I get a daily and a trailer, I can try higher speeds and deeper angle and not care if this happens.
http://noriyaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/noriyaro_ebisu_summer_drift_matsuri_2009_sunday_01 5.jpg
as long as the subframe aint bent :naughty:

Less missle cars PLEASE!

[Olly]

More Drift Wolrd.

[Brian]

more drift wolrd.

more drift wolrd

[Baron Fel]

less drift box.

[Xbroke_kidX]

More Drift Wolrd.
more drift wolrd

more drift wolrd

Missiles are cool because that means people are actually driving rather then hardparking and talking about how amazing they drive

[Brian]

Driving is cool.

Driving so that your car is a total 100% pile of ripped up shit isn't nearly as cool.

It's just junky.

[ThatGuy]

More of Brian's thinking.

[Chernobyl]

Oh yeah, I'm scared to think that "missiles" might become popular. :(

Oh god no. Hell no. Please.

You can have a good looking car, get close to walls, just don't fucking crash for the sake of crashing. It's cool when it happens naturally once in a great while, but these guys that go out of their way to hit stuff and break their kits off are just trying too hard.

[Chernobyl]

More full interiors.
Less fat girlfriends.
Less ghetto kids.

[Xbroke_kidX]

I never said anything about people driving and ruining there cars on purpose was cool, More people actually driving and going to events is cool

oh maybe more variety of cars too, there are other cars that you can drift besides 240's

[Chernobyl]

there are other cars that you can drift besides 240's

Yea, they are called FCs.

JK I agree... I'd like to see more different stuff out there. I'm starting to see a lot of cressidas and other 4door sedans drifting in CO lately. I don't think there was more than one S13 at the last event here...

[Touge Noob S13]

so less americans in drifting?? lmao!!


Yes, I perfer this.
http://www.driftpackage.com/index/1065.JPG

over this fatass

http://www.news.drift.com/content_images/JRnumber1_2.jpg

[jeffwiggins]

It needs me in a mankini and Drifting will change for ever.

Drifting has 2 sections, one is the sport of it, still growing.
The other is the Lifestyle people adapted too and decided to keep.


Then you have the DK's, but with any new trend, new people will join in.

But Drifting in both sections needs to be done for the FUN of it.


i agree with the 2 sides part most people dont believe in the sport side and think its a sell out type of thing but i think it would be the shit driving in the formula d courses and or any big tracks!! also to the people who are in the lifestyle section of drifting should be happy to see your life blowing up it makes you a celebrity hahaha :bigok:

[jeffwiggins]

Yes, I perfer this.
http://www.driftpackage.com/index/1065.JPG

over this fatass

http://www.news.drift.com/content_images/JRnumber1_2.jpg

than go to japan!!!!!!! lol

[ESmorz]

how about newer cars that can make viable stateside drift cars.

people cannot expect this 'sport' to flurish without an continual stream of 10-15 year old cars with suitable attributes.

lack of supply is what is going to kill off driftings popularity.

the current general supply of drift cars is early 90s japanese stuff. japanese sports coupes (rx7s, 300zxs, 240sx's, etc) all evaporated from the U.S. market by the mid to late 90s.. that means we're going to have a dry spell of suitable newer drift cars until 350zs or whatever become cheap.

people cannot expect 20 year old s13s to carry popularity with general public for much longer

The 350z, G35, RX8, and maybe even S2000 will fill that gap nicely.

All of which can be acquired for relatively cheap and are on nothing but a slide in price.


Yes, I perfer this.
http://www.driftpackage.com/index/1065.JPG

over this fatass

http://www.news.drift.com/content_images/JRnumber1_2.jpg

Why do you care what kind of dudes are driving?


One last thing, although drift missiles may be ugly and "trashy" but I would imagine that they would allow you to learn to push your car faster than babying it. If you have no fear of fucking it up you can put it in places you wouldn't dream of putting your pride and joy.

blah blah, this will all go in circles.

[jeffwiggins]

Driving is cool.

Driving so that your car is a total 100% pile of ripped up shit isn't nearly as cool.

It's just junky.

what if that 100% pos is bombing down the track with more angle imaginable???

[ericcastro]

Im really curious who the guys crashing their cars on purpose are??

[Brian]

what if that 100% pos is bombing down the track with more angle imaginable???


Then it's a pile of shit.

Is this a trick question?

I don't know what answer you are looking for.
A junkass car that's getting all sideways. Ok great.
:naw:

[ericcastro]

BH, are you asking for more cream on the inside, clean on the outside? ;)

[Brian]

You're gonna cream your pants, Castro.

[jeffwiggins]

i dunno either haha ive seen it before but didnt no what to think of it. it was anmr2 i believe looked like balls but was driving sick i was confused

[ericcastro]

lol, why?
you building me a car?
I will take a coupe, white bunny kit with candy red paint and bronze rims.
full black leather intior and a tomei sr20.
thanks for an early christmas.


I think the point is, we would all like to see nice drift cars.
But the reality is that there is only one way to leanr and get good and thats to take chances.
Just like working my way to being a sponsored skateboarder. I couldnt afford the best board, shoes or skater gear. But I kept on.
And I didnt like to crash, but it happens when you actually skate as much as you can and really push yourself.

so despite people wanting great cars.
theres gonna be missles like mine.
And instead of getting a new chasis everytime i get it fucked up.
i will continue to use this one till it has nothing left to give.

[ericcastro]

heres a crazy one

We need less media.

I hate looking through PAGES of mediocre pictures of events.
drifting needs to pay photographers instead of letting any chode through with a prosumer camera.
And photographers need to learn, instead of 350 shit pictures, 6 great pictures are better and get people stoked and coming back for more!

[Brian]

That's very true.

Also, the subject (I.E. the car) needs to look a lot better too.


As a photographer I would enjoy snapping away at a hot car rather than something that looks like it will give you Tetnus.

[ThatGuy]

How about just less pictures of "Missles".

Because while you may be justifying your lack of "hotness" with your quest to better your driving prowess...

..all these little dumb shit fanboys are using pictures of all the Missles to justify their half-assed builds. Because track damage, faux or not, is boso hotness.

You want to have a car that looks like a piece of balled up notebook paper, fine.
But stop publishing them all over the place like the hottest cars in the sport.

(No, I am not blaming you destroying chassis on the media's coverage. I am blaming the medias coverage for perpetuating the destruction of chassis.)

Again, more of BH's thinking sounds perfect.

[Matej]

Drifting as a performance motorsport is so goofy. Totally lost interest in anything drift related when the cars lost style.
It should be like an action car show show/fashion statement.
Hot Drift Nights.
Bumper to ground clearance limit.
Most dash trinkets award.

[ericcastro]

..all these little dumb shit fanboys are using pictures of all the Missles to justify their half-assed builds. Because track damage, faux or not, is boso hotness.


you would know better prolly. Are there really that many people into drifting still? Are there that many fanboys??
i kind of stopped paying attention and put my focus back on my career.

[ericcastro]

more drift world
more drifting on driftworld and less hockey gloves :love:


And Zilvia prolly needs less BH taking things off topic and castro following suit.
(I haven't started the random threadness at least)

[Brian]

I don't think Drift Wolrd has any hockey stuff on it.

I didn't go off topic. Did I?

[ThatGuy]

you would know better prolly. Are there really that many people into drifting still? Are there that many fanboys??
i kind of stopped paying attention and put my focus back on my career.

Look at Yuta's Z.

He openly admits that it is not finished, and will not look like it currently does.
Yet he has waves of nut swingers lining up to tell him how much they dig the rust, burn marks, and faded paint.

I respect the stance the car has, and his vision for the final result, but it's current bodily appearance shouldn't be a benchmark for people.

And also, YES, "Drift Missles" are popular. Look through the Forza 3 thread. People are taking DIGITAL CARS, that can be perfectly straight and perfect with the flick of your thumb, and they are PURPOSELY making them look like a 16 year old in middle America pieced it together in Mommy and Daddy's garage with their paper route money.

[Matej]

Missile cars are terrible. Whenever Speedhunters posts pictures from a drift event in Japan, there are never any good looking cars anymore. :(

[ericcastro]

I don't think Drift Wolrd has any hockey stuff on it.

I didn't go off topic. Did I?

I think I meant BH world.
theres a difference?
Im old and out of touch.

not off topic, but not exactly what drifting needs.
we are off on a sub topic of sorts, lol.

Look at Yuta's Z.

He openly admits that it is not finished, and will not look like it currently does.
Yet he has waves of nut swingers lining up to tell him how much they dig the rust, burn marks, and faded paint.

I respect the stance the car has, and his vision for the final result, but it's current bodily appearance shouldn't be a benchmark for people.

And also, YES, "Drift Missles" are popular. Look through the Forza 3 thread. People are taking DIGITAL CARS, that can be perfectly straight and perfect with the flick of your thumb, and they are PURPOSELY making them look like a 16 year old in middle America pieced it together in Mommy and Daddy's garage with their paper route money.

lol, I like his car, lol.

But i also like all the rusty hotrod and ratrods and oldschool motorcycles and am currently steampunking my keyboard.
So i guess thats a bit of my artistic taste.

I even considered doing my car with the "rust" when I build a coupe. Of course, most people dont realize they are painted and not actual rust on the magazine cars.

Havent played video games in awhile. I think I actually own Forza.

[tricky_ab]

Driving is cool.

Driving so that your car is a total 100% pile of ripped up shit isn't nearly as cool.

It's just junky.

This! Brian for president

[SUPERSTAR]

i agree with the 2 sides part most people dont believe in the sport side and think its a sell out type of thing but i think it would be the shit driving in the formula d courses and or any big tracks!! also to the people who are in the lifestyle section of drifting should be happy to see your life blowing up it makes you a celebrity hahaha :bigok:


Yeah they are two seperate worlds under the same umbrella.

Grassroots drivers that become Pro seek the same rush. Just at a higher speed and it gets competitive with large egos in the same series.

Now pros that didn't come from Drifting Grassroots, is what people hate.

But that's the sport of it.

Just keep drifing for your pleasure and all will be good.


Need more DVD's.

[jcyr]

And also, YES, "Drift Missles" are popular. Look through the Forza 3 thread. People are taking DIGITAL CARS, that can be perfectly straight and perfect with the flick of your thumb, and they are PURPOSELY making them look like a 16 year old in middle America pieced it together in Mommy and Daddy's garage with their paper route money.
Whats wrong with 16yr olds putting together cars with money they make? I'd much rather see that then 16yr olds in skittles brake boosting at me on the hwy.

[dub40sx]

Midwest (ie Colorado) needs more support from big wig shit so we can get some stuff going. Also if there is some sorta sponsor that wants to pitch in a bit twords track fees to get more people out on the track that would be awesome.

[Chernobyl]

the subject (I.E. the car) needs to look a lot better too.

Which brings us right back to.... less shitty looking drift cars! :axe: It's not 2003 anymore. People need to step up their game.

I personally take photos of cars at events and I will openly admit that I pay much less attention to the crappy cars than those that actually look good. Regardless of driving talent.

[Flicktitty]

Whats wrong with 16yr olds putting together cars with money they make? I'd much rather see that then 16yr olds in skittles brake boosting at me on the hwy.
nothing is wrong with 16 year olds PUTTING TOGETHER a car. it's the people in general that want to make there car look like it should be in a salvage yard.

i'm quickly starting to get sick of the S-chassis scene. actually i'm sick of most of the "JDM" car scene.

[sincity_sil80]

Whats wrong with 16yr olds putting together cars with money they make? I'd much rather see that then 16yr olds in skittles brake boosting at me on the hwy.

maybe im just dumb.. but whats break boostin.. and i dont think he's bashing people of a younger age investing their money in what they're interested in.. just stating that people have been led to believe that a certain look is what they should be aiming for when in actuality its just that their cars arent finished.. iono.. thats what i got from it.

[Flicktitty]

maybe im just dumb.. but whats break boostin.. and i dont think he's bashing people of a younger age investing their money in what they're interested in.. just stating that people have been led to believe that a certain look is what they should be aiming for when in actuality its just that their cars arent finished.. iono.. thats what i got from it.
brake boosting is putting your foot on the gas and the brake to make boost well staying at a constant speed, then releasing the brake and taking off at said boost level. it's fun.

[SUPERSTAR]

I know I know what it's missing.

Hot chicks in Hot cars drifting. Yummy.

[sincity_sil80]

brake boosting is putting your foot on the gas and the brake to make boost well staying at a constant speed, then releasing the brake and taking off at said boost level. it's fun.

oh haha thx for clearing that up for me

[jzepol1985]

I know I know what it's missing.

Hot chicks in Hot cars drifting. Yummy.

+1 for hot chicks

[tricky_ab]

More Drift Tengoku and Battle Magazine....

and +18673487298 on no more ugly rollers...More pride in your ride...

[Frydways]

$50 says this thread was created because its part of a school project where the student will most likely get a very low mark. See these on the internet every year around this time.

You'd be out 50 bucks. I'm just curious. But I probably would have gotten a low grade so you're right there.

[RNGWLD]

Needs less pedo bear stickers, less hipster stickers, less windshield stickers, less stickers that try to show how edgy you are:zzz:. Less concern with "zomg weak offset" and more concern with driving, less ego, more vibe, less rules and more fun

[junkyiv]

More MISSILES
Less WHINERS
More VIP
Less NUT SWINGERS
More PASSION
Less ATTITUDE
More DTM
Less JDM
More YOU
Less ME

There really is no answer to this. There are so many opinions that it will simply be impossible to please even a majority of people. What truly matters is what YOUR goals are.
If your goal is to have a super clean JDM TYTE daily then so be it. Doesn't hurt my feelings.
If your goal is to advance your skills on the track then so be it. I applaude you.

I truly LOVE drifting and my time behind the wheel is pure bliss. I hope that everyone can love it for their own reasons.

[Frydways]

heres a crazy one

We need less media.

I hate looking through PAGES of mediocre pictures of events.
drifting needs to pay photographers instead of letting any chode through with a prosumer camera.
And photographers need to learn, instead of 350 shit pictures, 6 great pictures are better and get people stoked and coming back for more!

AMEN! I shoot videos and the lack of quality in so many of them is astounding. Sure there are guys like Will, Josh, and AW, but the majority of guys are just what you said. Chodes with Prosumer cameras. belee dat

[deolio]

-more ebisu-style track compounds
-more "home grown" companies like pbm and that do their own r&d and make reasonable priced products
-more sponsors willing to support amateur drivers

about the missile cars - i really don't think anyone is aiming for that look. it just depends on the driver's budget. things like a good suspension setup and solid engine are #1.

[Frydways]

the argument that we need more tracks like ebisu is a tough one to argue. Because while I would love nothing more than an ebisu in my backyard, the fact is that we dont have the population density that japan has to make it viable. Tracks cost insane amounts of money to build and maintain, so any track in this country would have to be able to handle numerous sports, and not just cater to drifting. So therefore it is no longer a track dedicated to drifting. With all the interest in drifting right now, there have been conversation of building a drift track somewhere near lancaster or inland empire somewhere, but again it comes down to the level of competition. There are so many events down here that it wouldn't make sense to build a drift only park. Which sucks because we all want one! Dammit I'm going in circles.

Oh yeah, and Falken needs to change their damn tire. The RT-615 is not any better than it was 6 years ago. Falken has done a lot for drifting but at this point it seems evident to me that they are more concerned with tire sales than product quality. That happened to Nascar in the mid 80s and people started dying in crashes and fires before they pulled their heads out of their asses.

[deolio]

not really saying they need to build an entire new facility. maybe just a tighter, more flowy, drift oriented track at wsir or something.

[brndck]

We need more cars like FULL-LOCK.
More cars like the garage boso s15 (even though I'm not a big fan ofthe paint scheme, they built a very clean and well rounded street-style car)
many of the formula d cars look like science projects with crap fitment, worse color/paint/decals, and massive wings and powerplants.
We need more Matt and Tommy.
Drifting was built on style, not hey I need 800hp.
Soon they're almost gonna need separate classes for above and below 450hp.
We need more grassroots.
We need more wiretucks and CLEAN installs, not janky ass wire connectors and half assed shit.
We need more underhood dress up parts so when you pop your hood jaws drop.
We all need to give me $1 each so I can go buy a set of r1r's.

[Matej]

Drifting needs less drifting and more hardparking.

[brndck]

Drifting needs less drifting and more hardparking.

I think vrt has that handled.

[Xbroke_kidX]

Needs less pedo bear stickers, less hipster stickers, less windshield stickers, less stickers that try to show how edgy you are:zzz:. Less concern with "zomg weak offset" and more concern with driving, less ego, more vibe, less rules and more fun

uhhhh what more stickers always just good ones not shitty lame windsheild ones.
Much more concern with offset and ride height, Less rules? theres rules in the first place?

[Xbroke_kidX]

I think vrt has that handled.

:keke: awaiting all the angry nut swingers

[blackoutt]

Less Westcoast
More Eastcoast (Northeast)







Just kiddin, you can keep all your janky scum following over there, and we'll keep it classy. At least our rust is real, and real bad.

[SUPERSTAR]

More MISSILES
Less WHINERS
More VIP
Less NUT SWINGERS
More PASSION
Less ATTITUDE
More DTM
Less JDM
More YOU
Less ME

There really is no answer to this. There are so many opinions that it will simply be impossible to please even a majority of people. What truly matters is what YOUR goals are.
If your goal is to have a super clean JDM TYTE daily then so be it. Doesn't hurt my feelings.
If your goal is to advance your skills on the track then so be it. I applaude you.

I truly LOVE drifting and my time behind the wheel is pure bliss. I hope that everyone can love it for their own reasons.


I love you. :ssex:

[ericcastro]

Just kiddin, you can keep all your janky scum following over there, and we'll keep it classy. At least our rust is real, and real bad.

Your rust also breaks cars in 2.
Ours comes off with 2 minutes of 2000 grit, lol.

And BTW, San Diego keeps it classy.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh%20Nguyen/Features/Tommy%20Roberts%20S13/IMG_0698_4.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3205/21/33010010117_large.jpg

http://desertlamp.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/stay_classy.gif:D

[iDrift240sx]

A federal maximum speed-bump height.

good one hahah i agree

i agree with above statement ^^^^


and also the local events need some gogo girls in cages and live bands

DEC 19th
at INLAND DRIFT.

stay tuned
dont miss it.

someone above mentioned underground....the underground is always where its at... until its infultrated, then it theres a new underground. Everything cycles, and trends tend to repeat and repeat... the under ground mhm where its at. don't try and find it. it'll find you

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

Your rust also breaks cars in 2.
Ours comes off with 2 minutes of 2000 grit, lol.

And BTW, San Diego keeps it classy.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh%20Nguyen/Features/Tommy%20Roberts%20S13/IMG_0698_4.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3205/21/33010010117_large.jpg

http://desertlamp.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/stay_classy.gif:D

YEZZIR :coolugh:
WEST COAST THE BEST COAST

the argument that we need more tracks like ebisu is a tough one to argue. Because while I would love nothing more than an ebisu in my backyard, the fact is that we dont have the population density that japan has to make it viable. Tracks cost insane amounts of money to build and maintain, so any track in this country would have to be able to handle numerous sports, and not just cater to drifting. So therefore it is no longer a track dedicated to drifting. With all the interest in drifting right now, there have been conversation of building a drift track somewhere near lancaster or inland empire somewhere, but again it comes down to the level of competition. There are so many events down here that it wouldn't make sense to build a drift only park. Which sucks because we all want one! Dammit I'm going in circles.

Oh yeah, and Falken needs to change their damn tire. The RT-615 is not any better than it was 6 years ago. Falken has done a lot for drifting but at this point it seems evident to me that they are more concerned with tire sales than product quality. That happened to Nascar in the mid 80s and people started dying in crashes and fires before they pulled their heads out of their asses.

The ONLY track/venue open EXCLUSIVELY for drifting, and drifting at heart, is INLAND DRIFT.
It is there for NONE OTHER REASON except DRIFTING. It cannot exist with out the support, participation and opinion of the DRIFTERS/SPONSORS that are in it for DRIFTING.
DRIFTING DRIFTING DRIFTING, theres your EBISU

[gerson408]

less fanboys

[Grenade180sx]

the only thing drifting needs is to be fun. i dont really care who gets into it.. aslong as your having fun, who the hell cares.. it doesnt matter if you've been into drift 10 years or 1 day.. HAVE FUN DOING IT.


keep up the vids TJ when you heading back out this way to adams? gotta talk some bizness!

-Riley

[drift freaq]

the only thing drifting needs is to be fun. i dont really care who gets into it.. aslong as your having fun, who the hell cares.. it doesnt matter if you've been into drift 10 years or 1 day.. HAVE FUN DOING IT.


keep up the vids TJ when you heading back out this way to adams? gotta talk some bizness!

-Riley

This is one of the best statements in this thread.

[Edgar]

i totally agree

[ericcastro]

the only thing drifting needs is to be fun. i dont really care who gets into it.. aslong as your having fun, who the hell cares.. it doesnt matter if you've been into drift 10 years or 1 day.. HAVE FUN DOING IT.

-Riley

exactly
stop taking it all so serious and putting "rules" onto what people need to do.
have fun.

[landins13]

stay underground!! bad enough these cars are exposed soo much that theft is now a major issue with guys who daily drive.


i completelly agree with this, my favorite place to practice ( i had permission to be there) banned me because one nite when i wasnt there someone got onto the lot and smashed into a building on an ajoining lot and ran, i got blamed and now i dont have my skid pad

[landins13]

many of the formula d cars look like science projects with crap fitment, worse color/paint/decals, and massive wings and powerplants.


We need more grassroots.




i agree that we need more grassroots that is true, but at the same time valueing a drift car or its driver because of how pretty the car is, is stupid. Take into consideration that all of the formula D cars have slammed into eachother, walls, barriers, debri, and there isnt enough time in between rounds/events for them to re-fit and re-paint/graphic their cars when the focus is on performance

[Brian]

There is PLENTY of time to fix that stuff.

[Persona]

More of this: <3

[Matej]

And BTW, San Diego keeps it classy.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh%20Nguyen/Features/Tommy%20Roberts%20S13/IMG_0698_4.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3205/21/33010010117_large.jpg
First car is dead, and second has neon wheels now. :(

[ericcastro]

.............and second has neon wheels now. :(

and flies
http://driftwolrd.com/dw/944.jpg

(dished rims are out. Those neon rims are the "hotness" right now. Just sayin, since so many people on this thread seemed concerned with whats the cool way to build a car.)

[SUPERSTAR]

Hi .

[Brian]

Hi .

Hi, can you tell me what I need to do for drifting?

[Matej]

(dished rims are out. Those neon rims are the "hotness" right now. Just sayin, since so many people on this thread seemed concerned with whats the cool way to build a car.)
Neon rims were 'hotness' two years ago.

[Grenade180sx]

tommys car is alive! got pulled at the frame shop you should see him at nationals in it!

[Matej]

Good. That car is too nice for performance drift competition though, haha. It's like sending a cute girl to a muscle woman contest.

[ericcastro]

Neon rims were 'hotness' two years ago.
shit!

what do i need for my build next year??

has the world gone full circle.
are the 90's back?
can I run VX-1's
http://www.imaginewheel.com/MiniSiteIMW/images/tsw/vx1.jpg
or arrows yet?
http://www.tiremedia.com/images/wheels-big/momo-arrow.jpg

is this a good window banner for drift??
https://id302.securedata.net/superbgraphics.net/merchantmanager/images/Ebayphotos%20076.jpg

:kiss:

[Matej]

shit!

what do i need for my build next year??
Not much really. A lot of cars are way too overdone and gaudy.

No vinyl.

[ericcastro]

No vinyl.
lol.
I know that.
Thats why I am trying to learn precision and being able to put the car in exactly the same spot everytime on the wall.
So when i do build the Nice car with power I will be able to get close to walls, cars and clips without hitting anything.
that means I can have a real paintjob and a better kit!! :)

God I cant wait for christmas to end so i can go back to work!

[Matej]

http://www.matejblahut.com/gallery/d/509-1/luxyall.jpg




By the way, hope people are not taking me too seriously here. I'm not really a jerk in real life.

[Grenade180sx]

if u drive anything of that sorta just like that.. you can be a jerk its okay HAHA

[Matej]

if u drive anything of that sorta just like that.. you can be a jerk its okay HAHA
Not mine, I wish haha. I don't even care much for the whole 4-door drift trend that's been blowing up, but I do like nicely done cars.
Used to love all the huge 326 and GT wings and crazy colored wheels, but lately I've been all about less is more.
I think I'm getting old, it's sad.

[drift freaq]

More Hardbody Pickups!! :D

[nathanong87]

moar womenz in drifting. less sausage

on another note: maybe more comradeship (comradry (?)). Like people wanna be "lower than ___ " etc. unless u are actually competing on the track , let's see less arguing and more hugs

[Brian]

Not mine, I wish haha. I don't even care much for the whole 4-door drift trend that's been blowing up, but I do like nicely done cars.
Used to love all the huge 326 and GT wings and crazy colored wheels, but lately I've been all about less is more.
I think I'm getting old, it's sad.

You're just getting older.
More practical.

[TUnity2]

Sorry guys, But I have to disagree with your whole shit pile drift car argument.

but I think there needs to be a division.
My car
I beat the living shit out of and am learning to drift in as well as slide walls, tandem and whatnot.
Imagine if I put the time into the car BH did.
i would also drift once a year like BH and crash every other year due to driver error. (sorry buddy, your definatly not the only one. just on this thread.)
And then to buy the parts and make the car look amazing, it would take another year.
I LIKE TO DRIVE.
I like to tap walls and practice my precision.
So I need to do something that fits that.
knock off Fiberglass body, cheap parts that work, vinyl to cover the repairs.

some examples of my damage.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/DSC02110.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/DSC02112.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/Bodykit.jpg

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Now If my car looked like BH's, or some of the other great cars, I would not be able to finacially maintain the car.
I also went drifting 3 times this week.
I drive at least once a month and have for a few years now.
If I make enough money to move into a house, I will start building a car specifically for proam.
It will look great and be something I can be proud of.
But I wouldnt ever be able to get to that point if I didnt treat this car like I do and cut hte corners I do.
Other people can be proud of a matierial object that their wallet built, but I am proud of my driving skills behind the wheel.
I could give a fuck about a $1,500 car guys.
Why do you think I drift it and not a newer Z??

now


Other people
the primer hatches that you see everywhere.
the "drift" cars.
The thing is, these guys cant even hold a donut or drift at all. But they pretend they can.
They are the same guys that would rice out honda's if it was still 1997.
put on grapefruit shooters, crazy bodykits and try and race you on the freeway with an intake on the engine and cut springs.
They are just fanboying and fad chasing and it doesnt really matter.
I dont consider those people part of any sort of drift culture.
And just like the F&F scene, its gonna be a long time till it goes away.
so just stop being so paraniod that the world is grouping you together.
If you dont like it.
Choose a car platform that cost over $5000 and you wont have to worry.
I'm going to have to agree 100%. Pretty cars with expensive parts are great and all but frankly I cant afford it and if it was pristine then theres no way i would push it as hard and as often as I do. Also making your drift car and your DD two seperate things helps a lot.
I mean, would you drive like a puss if you were drving this piece of crap?
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/cbrandt/blang.jpg

[Brian]

^^^
Nope. Wouldn't drive at all.
lol

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

shit!

what do i need for my build next year??

has the world gone full circle.
are the 90's back?
can I run VX-1's

:kiss:

I rock some FONDMETALs... i was told they were an early 90's thing. I never seen em anywhere?

any insight or know about that???

tommys car is alive! got pulled at the frame shop you should see him at nationals in it!

REAL?! Wow greatness. Can't wait till sat.
I want to see you on House of Drift again too RIREY!

and flies
http://driftwolrd.com/dw/944.jpg

(dished rims are out. Those neon rims are the "hotness" right now. Just sayin, since so many people on this thread seemed concerned with whats the cool way to build a car.)

DEAAUUUM!!!! i new there'd be flying cars soon!!!
wow thats :boink:

[Matej]

Pretty cars with expensive parts are great and all but frankly I cant afford it and if it was pristine then theres no way i would push it as hard and as often as I do.
You can make a pretty car with cheap parts.

Maybe I just don't see what the point of drifting all out to the verge of possibly crashing your car and then not having a car is. Being good at drifting seems like a really useless skill to have. I mean, it's a fun activity to participate in, but totally not worth crashing a car for, unless you get paid to do it.

[ilia]

I'm going to have to agree 100%. Pretty cars with expensive parts are great and all but frankly I cant afford it and if it was pristine then theres no way i would push it as hard and as often as I do. Also making your drift car and your DD two seperate things helps a lot.
I mean, would you drive like a puss if you were drving this piece of crap?


There is REALLY no excuse for driving a hideous car. Plenty of people have really good looking cars and wreck the fuck out of them. Just rebuild it. You can have a decent looking car and jump curbs, hit walls, tandem with people, all that stuff.

[brndck]

i agree that we need more grassroots that is true, but at the same time valueing a drift car or its driver because of how pretty the car is, is stupid. Take into consideration that all of the formula D cars have slammed into eachother, walls, barriers, debri, and there isnt enough time in between rounds/events for them to re-fit and re-paint/graphic their cars when the focus is on performance
i'm not talking about battle damage, i'm talking about cars that look like a freaking mess from the onset.
Hi, can you tell me what I need to do for drifting?
buy a shiny car. smash. repeat.
Neon rims were 'hotness' two years ago.
i want clear rims. can you help me?

[ericcastro]

You can make a pretty car with cheap parts.

Maybe I just don't see what the point of drifting all out to the verge of possibly crashing your car and then not having a car is. Being good at drifting seems like a really useless skill to have. I mean, it's a fun activity to participate in, but totally not worth crashing a car for, unless you get paid to do it.
yeah, why drive all out??
formula D should totally enter inthe middle of the course and go WAY slower!!
Football players shouldn't play a 100%
Baseball should bring the outfield wall in so that they dont have to bat at the edge of thier ability to get homers.
Im sure you do something useless.
video games, movies, read, build a car,go to bars.
Unless Im getting paid to do anything, im not gonna, cause its useless!

your logic baffles me :love:

There is REALLY no excuse for driving a hideous car. Plenty of people have really good looking cars and wreck the fuck out of them. Just rebuild it. You can have a decent looking car and jump curbs, hit walls, tandem with people, all that stuff.

ummm, about 20 plus events last year.
Live in Hollywood.
Made about 18K total for the year.
So the answer is no, I can't.
But just cause I cant afford the dopest Nikes doesnt mean I shouldnt be able to play basketball.
And just cause my car is a knock off flagship and has seen better days doesnt mean I shouldn't drift.

Sorry I cant afford DMAX, Paint, rollcage, seat, decent rims, beautiful engine with custom harness, uncracked windshield, nice exhaust, etc.............



But I drive the fuck out of that KA.
And I have lotsa fun.
just like most of the Pro's drove shitbox's too, you have to start somewhere.
Why the fuck would you spend $15K on a car to see if you like drifting or are any good, lmao!!
You drive the shit out of a beater for a few years, then if you want to keep doing it, you build the car up.
just like anything in life.


thankgod people that have primer cars, bad fitment, sport max and knock off crap come to the track.
Cause I only see these "dope" cars once in a long while.
Someone has to support drifting and the tracks.
Cause god knows the guys hating dont support the sport as much as they pretend.
Be nice to see you guys at the track once in awhile:mepoke:

[Brian]

Why not just drift on the streets?
Isn't it free?

[Matej]

yeah, why drive all out??
formula D should totally enter inthe middle of the course and go WAY slower!!
Football players shouldn't play a 100%
Baseball should bring the outfield wall in so that they dont have to bat at the edge of thier ability to get homers.
Im sure you do something useless.
video games, movies, read, build a car,go to bars.
Unless Im getting paid to do anything, im not gonna, cause its useless!

your logic baffles me :love:
Formula D cars should go really fast and be covered in smoke because I do not want to look at them.
The only motivation for 99.9% of football players is millions of dollars.
Nothing will save baseball.
Throwing a book against a wall is different then throwing a car against a wall.
Can't hold up the same standards for everything.

[ericcastro]

Why not just drift on the streets?
Isn't it free?
kinda, not really
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_7494.jpg

No, Formula D cars should go really fast and be covered in smoke because I do not want to look at them.
The only motivation for 99.9% of football players is millions of dollars.
Nothing will save baseball.
Throwing a book against a wall is different then throwing a car against a wall.
Can't hold up the same standards for everything.

lol.

I just dont understand why someone would make a statement about a hobby being a waste of money.
Duh, but hobbys are fun and enjoyable to the person involved.
but rarely make any money.

unless your hobby is hustlin and ballin out of control.
I prolly should have done that with my free time.

[Brian]

swap to that orange car.

DO IT.

Get rid of the blue heap.

[Matej]

To be honest, I don't really care what anyone does with their car.
(Although I admit I get a little sad when I see someone go through cars like shoes. Pretty sure 240's and all cheap RWD cars will be extinct soon, and even though everyone will be a master drifter able to get within 1mm of walls, no one will be able to find a car to drift.)

It's just silly when people try to justify their car to someone else.
"No, my car can't look good, because I drive it. That is why you should like it."
And same can go the other way around of course.

Justifying what you like to someone else is pointless. Just do it.
Chances are I won't like it, but who cares. I know a lot of people do not like what I like. Oh well.

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

Why not just drift on the streets?
Isn't it free?

like Castro said. "kinda"

With great drift powers, comes great responsibility. haha

i don't condone the streets...but SERIOUSLY UNDERSTAND the risks and be careful. blame no one but yourself

There is REALLY no excuse for driving a hideous car. Plenty of people have really good looking cars and wreck the fuck out of them. Just rebuild it. You can have a decent looking car and jump curbs, hit walls, tandem with people, all that stuff.

except the excuse of $$$$$$$$$$$

You can make a pretty car with cheap parts.

Maybe I just don't see what the point of drifting all out to the verge of possibly crashing your car and then not having a car is. Being good at drifting seems like a really useless skill to have. I mean, it's a fun activity to participate in, but totally not worth crashing a car for, unless you get paid to do it.

if you don't understand, then you don't understand...then you don't drift.


I like what RIREY said, JUST have fun!

do what pleases you
respect others
respect the streets
and you will get respect

halleluya!!

[SUPERSTAR]

Hi, can you tell me what I need to do for drifting?

YOU? You, are already doing it.

Although you could drive more that just 3 or 4 times a year.

But ASB is the perfect example of a FUN event, where everyone is there for the same reason. DRIFTING.

[Brian]

No not ME.
Just in general.

[SUPERSTAR]

No not ME.
Just in general.

Nothing at all.

You can put everyone that posted on this thread and come up with good ideas to add or remove. But at the end of the day, nothing will change the scene, lifestyle or sport end of things.

Drifting like any other car hobby will evolve to where it becomes a business and people dive in for profits. Then it will die out and come back in 10-15 years again. ONLY the lifestyle and those with in it will keep it going.


The only thing I feel we need to do, is Drift because we love it. Don't matter at what level.

More Family and Friends related events would be nice.

[Brian]

You're not the boss of me.

[brndck]

To be honest, I don't really care what anyone does with their car.
(Although I admit I get a little sad when I see someone go through cars like shoes. Pretty sure 240's and all cheap RWD cars will be extinct soon, and even though everyone will be a master drifter able to get within 1mm of walls, no one will be able to find a car to drift.)


why does no one recognize that the z33 will be cheap enough to make into a drift car within the next 2-3 years? hell you can already get some of them for cheaper than i've seen clean s14 koukis going for. i feel that this will be the next popular "drift" platform.

either that or people will finally start taking advantage of the billions of fc verts running around.

[SUPERSTAR]

You're not the boss of me.

I sure isn't.

[Brian]

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[SUPERSTAR]

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[ericcastro]

driftwolrd.com
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I was there earlier saving photos. :drool:

[Brian]

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Touche......

[Brian]

I was there earlier saving photos. :drool:

Why were you saving photos from there?

[ThatGuy]

So, any chance of keeping this on topic, or should I just lock it up right now? :confused:

[Brian]

Well Barry, I think it's ready for the lock.

Put the lock on it and lose the key.