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cc4usmc
11-12-2009, 04:50 PM
NEW YORK – Federal prosecutors took steps Thursday to seize four U.S. mosques and a Fifth Avenue skyscraper owned by a nonprofit Muslim organization long suspected of being secretly controlled by the Iranian government.

In what could prove to be one of the biggest counterterrorism seizures in U.S. history, prosecutors filed a civil complaint in federal court against the Alavi Foundation, seeking the forfeiture of more than $500 million in assets.

The assets include bank accounts; Islamic centers consisting of schools and mosques in New York City, Maryland, California and Houston; more than 100 acres in Virginia; and a 36-story glass office tower in New York.

Confiscating the properties would be a sharp blow against Iran, which has been accused by the U.S. government of bankrolling terrorism and trying to build a nuclear bomb.

A telephone call and e-mail to Iran's U.N. Mission seeking comment were not immediately answered. Nor was a call to the Alavi Foundation.

It is extremely rare for U.S. law enforcement authorities to seize a house of worship, a step fraught with questions about the First Amendment right to freedom of religion.

The action against the Shiite Muslim mosques is sure to inflame relations between the U.S. government and American Muslims, many of whom are fearful of a backlash after last week's Fort Hood shooting rampage, blamed on a Muslim American major.

The mosques and the skyscraper will remain open while the forfeiture case works its way through court in what could be a long process. What will happen to them if the government ultimately prevails is unclear. But the government typically sells properties it has seized through forfeiture, and the proceeds are sometimes distributed to crime victims.

Prosecutors said the Alavi Foundation managed the office tower on behalf of the Iranian government and, working with a front company known as Assa Corp., illegally funneled millions in rental income to Iran's state-owned Bank Melli. Bank Melli has been accused by a U.S. Treasury official of providing support for Iran's nuclear program, and it is illegal in the United States to do business with the bank.

The U.S. has long suspected the foundation was an arm of the Iranian government; a 97-page complaint details involvement in foundation business by several top Iranian officials, including the deputy prime minister and ambassadors to the United Nations.

"For two decades, the Alavi Foundation's affairs have been directed by various Iranian officials, including Iranian ambassadors to the United Nations, in violation of a series of American laws," U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement.

There were no raids Thursday as part of the forfeiture action. The government is simply required to post notices of the civil complaint on the property.

As prosecutors outlined their allegations against Alavi, the Islamic centers and the schools they run carried on with normal activity. The mosques' leaders had no immediate comment.

Parents lined up in their cars to pick up their children at the schools within the Islamic Education Center of Greater Houston and the Islamic Education Center in Rockville, Md. No notices of the forfeiture action were posted at either place as of late Thursday.

At the Islamic Institute of New York, a mosque and school in Queens, two U.S. marshals came to the door and rang the bell repeatedly. The marshals taped a forfeiture notice to the window and left a large document sitting on the ground. After they left a group of men came out of the building and took the document.

The fourth Islamic center marked for seizure is in Carmichael, Calif.

The skyscraper, known as the Piaget building, was erected in the 1970s under the shah of Iran, who was overthrown in 1979. The tenants include law and investment firms and other businesses.

The sleek, modern building, last valued at $570 million to $650 million in 2007, has served as an important source of income for the foundation over the past 36 years. The most recent tax records show the foundation earned $4.5 million from rents in 2007.

Rents collected from the building help fund the centers and other ventures, such as sending educational literature to imprisoned Muslims in the U.S. The foundation has also invested in dozens of mosques around the country and supported Iranian academics at prominent universities.

If federal prosecutors seize the skyscraper, the Alavi Foundation would have almost no way to continue supporting the Islamic centers, which house schools and mosques. That could leave a major void in Shiite communities, and hard feelings toward the FBI, which played a big role in the investigation.

The forfeiture action comes at a tense moment in U.S.-Iranian relations, with the two sides at odds over Iran's nuclear program and its arrest of three American hikers.

But Michael Rubin, an expert on Iran at the American Enterprise Institute, said the timing of the forfeiture action was probably a coincidence, not an effort to influence Iran on those issues.

"Suspicion about the Alavi Foundation transcends three administrations," Rubin said. "It's taken ages dealing with the nuts and bolts of the investigation. It's not the type of investigation which is part of any larger strategy."

Legal scholars said they know of only a few cases in U.S. history in which law enforcement authorities have seized a house of worship. Marc Stern, a religious-liberty expert with the American Jewish Congress, called such cases extremely rare.

The Alavi Foundation is the successor organization to the Pahlavi Foundation, a nonprofit group used by the shah to advance Iran's charitable interests in America. But authorities said its agenda changed after the fall of the shah.

In 2007, the United States accused Bank Melli of providing services to Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs and put the bank on its list of companies whose assets must be frozen. Washington has imposed sanctions against various other Iranian businesses.


Zomg, they're everywhere! lol

RiversideS13
11-12-2009, 05:15 PM
i can see a lot of Persians are gonna go on street to protest now.

Matej
11-12-2009, 05:39 PM
The street I live on is being taken over by Iranians.
Not joking.

cc4usmc
11-12-2009, 05:44 PM
That's whats so ironic. You give everyone that moves to this country all the rights of people who were born here and they start to believe we owe them something.

ronmcdon
11-13-2009, 12:17 PM
The street I live on is being taken over by Iranians.
Not joking.

What is the difference between Persians & Iranians?
Are Iraqis Persians too?
I thought Persia was the name of ancient ppls like Babylonians,
but maybe I am incorrect.

Just curious, as I am unaware of the cultural subtleties here.

wangan_cruiser
11-14-2009, 04:12 AM
What is the difference between Persians & Iranians?
Are Iraqis Persians too?
I thought Persia was the name of ancient ppls like Babylonians,
but maybe I am incorrect.

Just curious, as I am unaware of the cultural subtleties here.

as far as i know back in the days


iranians were known as persians and iraqis are mesopotamian.


correct me if im wrong.

TheWolf
11-14-2009, 04:56 AM
That's whats so ironic. You give everyone that moves to this country all the rights of people who were born here and they start to believe we owe them something.

There's a race joke in there but I won't make it..

it would anger phillip

Matej
11-14-2009, 05:30 AM
What is the difference between Persians & Iranians?
To the outside world, the general geographic location was known as Persia throughout history, until it was officially renamed to Iran in the 20th century. The name of their language is still Persian.

It is fascinating how almost all of the places that once housed the greatest civilizations on Earth are now total holes and third world countries. It seems that great civilizations would always get caught up in their own rules and power, and would just eventually start holding themselves back and stop progressing and get taken over or fall apart.
I wonder if the same will happen to the leading nations of today, although the world is becoming so interconnected and balanced that it is slowly turning into one singular civilization.

cc4usmc
11-15-2009, 07:29 PM
I just found out that one of these buildings is 40min away from me.

Sacto 9-1-1: Authorities investigate burning of Justice Department letter at Carmichael Islamic center (http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/crime/archives/2009/11/authorities-inv.html)

upsdude
11-15-2009, 08:08 PM
i thought iranians spoke farsi?

SlideWell
11-15-2009, 08:33 PM
lol you guys are funny. Im half Iranian, so let me set this straight. Iranians call themselves persians because a lot of people dont know the damn difference between an iranian and an iraqi and often associate it with the bad guys. Persia was the old name of the country, usually more respected by people today than the name "Iran." sad, but true. The official language of Iran is Farsi. and if you haent eaten at an iranian/persian restaurant, DO it, by far my favorite food, and ive eaten a lot of foods :)
this seems like a good thing for the american government if its all true. I think most iranians dont believe anyone owes them anything. shit, all the ones i know here went to school or are still in school to be a damned doctor or dentist. good for them, but shame on them at the same time cuz those assholes look down on people like me that havent made it that far in life yet. i used to get shit all the time from my dad (why arent you like so n so, go be a doctor, blah).

RiversideS13
11-16-2009, 01:04 AM
yeah my ex girlfriend was an American born persian aka Iranian. All of those Persians i had meet had a lot of Persian pride and strive the get the superior status and show off (jobs, cars, and house), quite materialistic i think. However, it is good to see people are really motivate and creating their good network instead of waiting for help.

SlideWell
11-16-2009, 01:18 AM
yeah my ex girlfriend was an American born persian aka Iranian. All of those Persians i had meet had a lot of Persian pride and strive the get the superior status and show off (jobs, cars, and house), quite materialistic i think. However, it is good to see people are really motivate and creating their good network instead of waiting for help.
id like a persian gf, they can be hot as hell. but damn, those bitches want a doctor for a bf, like u said, materialistic as hell. i dont want to be a damned doctor, nor does my sister. we both want to have lives, so shes going to teach after finishing up her PhD, and im doing the male nurse thing.
i believe pride is more of a bad thing than good.

upsdude
11-16-2009, 10:14 PM
sounds like iranians/persians suffer from the same pressure to achieve as the asian cultures.

tricky_ab
11-16-2009, 10:54 PM
i can see a lot of Persians are gonna go on street to protest now.

Yep and now it begins...

Matej
11-16-2009, 11:49 PM
shit, all the ones i know here went to school or are still in school to be a damned doctor or dentist.
What is scary is that I went to middle school and high school with two of the Iranian girls that I now live down the street from, and they were both really dumb. As in bottom of the class, seriously, seriously dumb. Somehow, both are in expensive universities now, one studying to be a doctor, and the other to be a dentist.
And I know for a fact that neither of the parents have very high-paying jobs, yet they are constantly buying new cars and improving their home. And in the past few months their relatives bought and moved into two more houses on the street I live on.

ayuaddict
11-17-2009, 10:10 AM
What is scary is that I went to middle school and high school with two of the Iranian girls that I now live down the street from, and they were both really dumb. As in bottom of the class, seriously, seriously dumb. Somehow, both are in expensive universities now, one studying to be a doctor, and the other to be a dentist.
And I know for a fact that neither of the parents have very high-paying jobs, yet they are constantly buying new cars and improving their home. And in the past few months their relatives bought and moved into two more houses on the street I live on.

how do you think that happened?

Matej
11-17-2009, 02:36 PM
how do you think that happened?
Rich relatives probably.
I want rich relatives.

Just to clarify, I did not mean scary as in I find everyone I do not understand scary. I meant it as in I would be scared if either of them were ever to be my doctors.

ronmcdon
11-17-2009, 04:15 PM
Well, you can always do well in city college and transfer to a good university.
many ppl who mess up in high school do this.
that doesn't strike me as a mystery.

tricky_ab
11-17-2009, 06:31 PM
how do you think that happened?

Have you ever watched the Shield?! that's how....:naughty:

irax
11-17-2009, 06:40 PM
mostly Iranian women call them selves Persians because it sounds more exotic. where as men call them selves Persian when the people back home are fucking up, as to distance themselves from their home land. Persia was a super country in its time, and composed of a lot of different cultures as well. Even though I'm only half Irani I usually say I'm Persian when I usually end up explaining my name.

Walperstyle
11-17-2009, 06:58 PM
edit: nevermind dont want to be targeted for my actions

SexPanda
11-17-2009, 08:25 PM
Well, I think the guvmint knows whats going on. I mean, they have never screwed anything else up... ever.

lol. but seriously, this one one helluva move. They better not have fucked up.