which bumper is this again?

[Dutchmalmiss]

does anyone know what bumper this is and do you know if it'll be easy to find? i want it

[Dousan_PG]

that's a kouki 180sx bumper
WITH the lower optional lip

ONLY from japan

cost: about ~400 (before shipping)
i think lip is about same or more..


shippping runs near 100-300 i bet

eitherway expect to ahve about 1K ready, especially if you need to repaint it.

[RSP13-Sideways]

That actually is stock on the Type-X models......

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by RSP13-Sideways
That actually is stock on the Type-X models......


NO ITS NOT!!!
the lip is OPTIONAL

and the bumper is on ALL kouki 180sx models
the aero kit is available on NON-type x models as well!

dont spread bad information!

[NiteKids]

hahahhahhaha oh ****!

Type X TYpe X!

[Stee Flo]

Hey Dousan Ive noticed that the term "Type X" is one of your pet peeves. You just hate it when someone uses that term:p

[Dousan_PG]

yeah. i admit i do.
because type x is just a trim, not some special secret model with crazy jDm TyTe AeRoKiT yO!



crap. i drive a 'type-x' chuuki s13. :rolleyes:
same kit, same bumper, its type x as well!

[RSP13-Sideways]

Originally posted by dousan36
NO ITS NOT!!!
the lip is OPTIONAL

and the bumper is on ALL kouki 180sx models
the aero kit is available on NON-type x models as well!

dont spread bad information!

Whoa ease up buddy, someone has their panties in a bunch.

Sorry for the mis-info I know it comes stock on Type-X models, it is an option out of the factory for non-Type-X models, and I just learned about the optional lip now.

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by RSP13-Sideways
Whoa ease up buddy, someone has their panties in a bunch.

Sorry for the mis-info I know it comes stock on Type-X models, it is an option out of the factory for non-Type-X models, and I just learned about the optional lip now.

also remember yu can buy that stuff from dealer. for all anyone knows he bought base model swapped in a redtop SR (dirt cheap in japan) and got the aero parts from dealer/off another car. you cant tell its type x by looking. it could also be a Chuuki 180sx. its very easy to get that kouki look!


http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28103

RPS13: 180sx with SR20D(T) ('91-'96.5 a.k.a. chuki and '9.5-'98 a.k.a. kouki)
+Chuki trim
-Type-S: SR20DE and no standard aero kit (probable)
-Type-X: SR20DET and aero lip, side skirts and rear underspoiler (also probable)
+Kouki trim
-Type-S: SR20DE with no aero kit
-Type-G: SR20DE with aero sideskirts and rear underspoiler
-Type-R: SR20DET with no aero kit
-Type-X: SR20DET with aero front lip, sideskirts, and rear underspoiler

Visual differences
Zenki/chuki 180sx have same tail lights as USDM 240sx hatchback. Zenki has "pignose" front bumper.
Kouki has updated, more modern lights and different bumper and aero sideskirts.

[soulDistortion]

kouki 180's also have the a-pillars color matched to the car, correct?

[soulDistortion]

Originally posted by RSP13-Sideways
Whoa ease up buddy, someone has their panties in a bunch.

Sorry for the mis-info I know it comes stock on Type-X models, it is an option out of the factory for non-Type-X models, and I just learned about the optional lip now.

You're ah.. still wrong if you want to break it down to semantics.

It comes stock on kouki 180's, not Type-X models. There's a difference. You can have a kouki type x. You can have a kouki that's not a type x. You can have a non-kouki that's a type x. Two of the three come with the bumper seen in the picture.

As dousan said, Type-X is just a trim, and it's a trim available on the chuki model as well, so just saying "type-x" doesn't denote which years.

[ruf]

Still wrong. You got it right if you were talking about just the bumper, but we are talking about the optional lip that attaches to the kouki bumper that was optional for ALL kouki 180SX.

[Dousan_PG]

thanks ruf
btw, can you give a GENERAL idea how much the bumper and lip will run a indiviual (any average guy/gal) w/ shipping and all? just to give people a idea how expensive it is.


Thanks

[ruf]

I'm guessing no more than $1200-1300. Maybe less. I have to dig up the part numbers and crap again.

If you think that price is high, it is. Keep in mind this is PRE-PAINTED OEM Nissan urethane bumper, lip, position lights, and turn signals.

[RSP13-Sideways]

ohhhh for god sakes...I am still trying to learn and I don't feel like posting on these boards because you guys think you are Nissan Gods or something........

I am just trying to learn, I bet I am wrong you don't have to keep pointing it out on every post...the only person helpful has been Dousan.......

From now on I will probably just read a lot more than post....

[Dousan_PG]

RSP13-Sideways:

dont let it get to you
dont mean to jump down your throat or anything
bad info spreads faster then good
dont let it turn you from posting.
i only post a lot because i read first. :p
i got the memory of an elephant (an elephant never forgets)

keep posting keep posting! check out the post pic of your car thread at top of chat (add your car if you'd like) and just read read.

dont let it stop you from posting! please!!!

some of the topics on zilvia are flames/wars or off topic from the original thread..its loose here and people are super duper cool. we are all here to learn. i kid you not i learn something new everyday (like that z33 brake thread going on in TECH section right now)

zilvia is a fun place!!!! :D

[boro240]

that particular bumper is knock off aftermarket one-piece. there is no lip on it. you can tell its not the real kouki because of the part that extends on the sides. on the actual kouki bumper theres a small part that goes on the fender, like with the chuki bumper. that one is smooth, indicating its aftermarket.

[ruf]

Ok, I did some poking around. The parts are NOT prepainted (apparently some body parts come painted and others don't). I could probably do $1000 for all the necessary components if there was any volume.

Keep in mind this costs less than 2 aftermarket front bumpers and would last you much longer.

[Dousan_PG]

im going to start calling you 'Eagle Eyes' from this day forth :p

[ruf]

Except that "Eagle eyes" has been smoking the crack rock again.

That's an OEM lip/bumper combo. You can see the seam between the lip and the bumper in the front. There is also a slight seam on the sides. It's not smooth.

[boro240]

it IS smooth. i turned up the brightness on my monitor just to check (the first time).

[Dousan_PG]

OH! boro, your 'Eagle Eyes' title is in limbo awaiting further verification.


fyi: someone go look on VRT mike's site and get the original image.

[ruf]

Nah, the JPG is the same size.

I edited the BMP to show what I'm talking about.

[boro240]

yeah i know what you meant, but if you turn up the brightness you can see that that line stops there. its smooth on the side. honestly though i really dont care that much, lol. either way it doesnt really matter.:) and it actually probably IS OEM. cause it has the licence holder thing, and the nissan badge. ihavnt seen any replicas with the badge.

[ruf]

I think it's more of a JPG compression defect or that it's in the shadows. The line is there. I know it. I feel it. In me bone. I mean me bones. And I care. It matters. I am right. You are wrong. And Aaron will back me up on that because I have his LSD kit in my house. :o

[RSP13-Sideways]

Ruf where are you getting your prices from?

Anyway I am headin to Japan on the 25th of June because my girl is studying abroad in Yokohama. Her good friend is a head honcho at Nissan, I am going to be driving his S15 when I get there, and I am picking up 2 pairs of 180 tails, one for me, and the other to sale here. I guarantee I can get those fronts less than $400 easy. Well then again, I am going through a source in Nissan......

[ruf]

I go through Nissan Japan. Yes the bumper itself is less than $400. But then add the lip and both sets of lights, account for shipping and customs and you'll be way over.

[Stee Flo]

Originally posted by RSP13-Sideways
I guarantee I can get those fronts less than $400 easy. Well then again, I am going through a source in Nissan......
well if thats true then if i were you i would try to start some kind of business and try to sell these oem kouki bumpers in the states. There are plenty of people who would love durable oem kouki bumper instead of the aftermarket ones, including me;)

[ruf]

There's a problem. You can't stuff a bumper into a suitcase like a set of lights (I'm wondering how he's going to get the lower kouki taillight trim here, it's the width of the car). Shipping sucks. Its expensive. Customs sucks. Its expensive and I don't cheat to get out of it. No legitimate business would. Anyone that ever comes to me and complains about Japanese retail pricing and 120Y/$1 exchange rates always gets the same answer from me. "Oh yeah, there's this great website where you can buy all sorts of Japanese parts at those prices. www.continental.com "

If you think you can get this entire front end for <$400 in the US, you're dreaming. Not being bitchy, just telling you the truth.

[RSP13-Sideways]

True, but here's the sweetest thing. My girlfriend is 1/2 Japanese and 1/2 Irish. She speaks fluent Japanese and her father owns a business over that deals with exporting. I could use his rates, etc. I have already gotten a lot of good things for my last project car which was a 1992 Integra.

I know all about customs etc, I could start a business and me and girl have been contemplating. The prices that people sell your parts out here in the US is outrageous. Good news is, I have a hookup in Nissan, and I have a hookup for exporting. Ohhh and I have a girlfriend that speaks fluent Japanese, hahaha. I will find out more later.

[Dutchmalmiss]

alright....so it's a kouki bumper? it's $1000? damn.... anything else i'd have to get? like the fenders?

[Dousan_PG]

huh? wtf do fendesr have to do w/ bumper?
you need the bumper
and the side piece because bumper isnt like US where it goes to fender wheel well, it stops. you need the 2 additional side peices (1 per side) that go infront of fender.

also bumper support (USDM) i dont think will work w/ the kouki bumper but im not sure

more kouki: sideskirts (i think they are 600ish)
rear valence (about 600 too i think)

OEM is awesome but its not cheap.

[vudoodrifter03]

going oem would be cool but i think if i wanted to get the look i would get the G-Grow kit off autoimaging http://www.autoimaging.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cat=117
or go with the uras kit
http://www.autoimaging.com/uras/180sx_vsystem_lg.jpg
just my oppinion.

[Dousan_PG]

OEM: urethane
g-grow: fiberglass

ggrow+curb=broken bumber
oem+curb=aok


you get what you pay for
you can beat ALL DAY on a OEM bumper
you take that ggrow to a curb or hit something..bye bye bumper.

just stuff to factor in
can you afford a NEW bumper everytime you crack/break/shatter your fiberglsas one? in the long run, OEM might be cheaper!


be sure to take that into consideration

[vudoodrifter03]

yeah a urethane one would be a better idea and prob. cheeper in the long run, but im learing how to work with fiberglass and i have a good friend who is a body guy who doesnt really charge me any thing for work so i prob could repair it a couple times till it was all bondo and mesh (really tacky looking ). but your right you get what you pay for -and im a poor sucka and i get nothing:(

but i really love that uras kit (if i had money i would get it ):p
and its Nomuken-san approved:D

[fiebru1119]

Sorry to bring this back up, but is this the same bumper you all are talking about, it looks similar but then theres that hole in the middle.. is it a diy job?

http://www.jdmrice.com/events/driftshow/rice21.jpg

[Dousan_PG]

that's richards car

his bumper is a Hot Road Ver. SPL

it was made like that
kouki STYLE bumper (meaning NOT oem, but fiberglass)

[ruf]

Originally posted by dousan36
the side piece because bumper isnt like US where it goes to fender wheel well, it stops. you need the 2 additional side peices (1 per side) that go infront of fender.The OEM kouki lip spoiler (and the GP Sports fiberglass version) replace these parts. You only need them if you aren't getting the lip.

[Dousan_PG]

i believe Hot Road makes a kouki lip copy too
do you know if it is same as OEM lip? same as GP sports as well i guess?

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by dousan36
i believe Hot Road makes a kouki lip copy too
do you know if it is same as OEM lip? same as GP sports as well i guess? Knowing Hotroad it is probably a little more dramatic than the OEM shape, as in it may flare out more, and go a little lower. Check out the pics of my car Aaron and you can see that its molded to look like an extra lip on a bumper (look, you'll see what i mean). I would imagine that would be the shape of their lip. Think like this: G-Grow makes nearly identical replicas and Hotroad makes kouki styled aero parts, with a little twist.

BTW the upright "posts" on Richard's bumper are further apart than mine and OEM/OEM style. Looks like his may direct air better for FMIC's.

[Dutchmalmiss]

does anyone know where to get them in the socal area? man...why the f*** are they so hard to find?! i just want that bumper and all the other kouki exterior parts!!!

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by dutchmalmiss
does anyone know where to get them in the socal area? man...why the f*** are they so hard to find?! i just want that bumper and all the other kouki exterior parts!!!

i dont know why people dont understand this

they are FROM JAPAN
not usa, not so cal
you need to get them importer
talk with your nissan dealer, they can get them too but they need to come from japan no matter what.

i dont know what's so hard to understand?!

[DoriftoSlut]

Doesn't SoCal = Japan? What did I move here for!?!?!:( All we EVER want are "JUST" kouki 180 bumpers and all the other aero parts.:rolleyes: Hehe, these are like the most sought after parts by R_S13 owners. Therefore, whe they DO show up, they are snatched pretty damn quickly.;)