town in colorodo legalizes marijuana

[BustedS13]

Colorado ski town legalizes pot - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_marijuana_legalization)

21 and over can possess up to an ounce. not for medical. just for whatever.
wow.
this is actually pretty huge news, even though it's still illegal at state and federal levels. just... wow.

[Matej]

Breckenridge is a classy town in a really pretty location, hope a bunch of trashy people do not start going there. :(
There are probably like 10 permanent residents, who are all ski lift operators or rent out mountain bikes during the summer, haha.


Edit
Just logged into Myspace. Some girl who has pot leaves and Bob Marley all over her profile posted a status update saying she wants to move to Colorado. :(:(:(

[DETT]

Federal law trumps state law.... think about how having a state registered and legal skyline is, just because you have it doesn't make it legal. If you do it, or wave it infront of a a FBI or fed I guaran-fuckin-tee your ass is grass, pun not intended.

[BustedS13]

as of about two weeks ago federal policy is to not interfere, so long as it's legal at state level. so you can put that federal baby to bed right now.

New Medical Marijuana Policy: Obama Administration Will Not Seek Arrests For People Following State Laws (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/new-medical-marijuana-pol_n_325426.html)

but, in this case, of course, it IS still illegal at the state level.
whatever, it's a symbolic gesture, it's still pretty amazing.

[DETT]

I honestly don't see it being controlled for much longer, considering the stance that the oh great savior seems to be taking on that topic. Especially considering the revenue that can be brought on from taxation if it goes full blown legal, but hey I could be wrong and I probably am. Just speculating.

[S14_Kouki]

Well this is good news. But it just has to happen to all the states now.

Breckenridge is a classy town in a really pretty location, hope a bunch of trashy people do not start going there. :(


Yeah I thought about this too hopefully that does not happen.

[Ineedparts]

Wonderful, now Breck will be even more crowded

[WanganRunner]

Yeah, this will spread like fire. Expect most of the more liberal states (and some more Libertarian western states, like CO) to legalize the stuff in relatively short order.

I'd love to walk around with a QO in my backpack and not have to worry about it, lol. I don't even really smoke anymore, it's been years, but I'd just be amused by the legality all the same.

[20 til 3]

its deff a big step imo

but colorado has been decriminalized for years now... along with many other states

anyone read fortune magazine?... big articles about pot in there also(front cover headline reads "is pot already legal?", because basicly... it is, i mean i can find green almost any day... and i live in bum-fu*k nowhere

[ThatGuy]

I will explain this only ONCE in this Thread.

As Marijuana use is still FEDERALLY ILLEGAL, it is still against Forum Guidelines to speak about it's use. Do not attempt to flex your local laws, or even a Medical perscription as an excuse to discuss FEDERALLY ILLEGAL activities.

In short, do yourself a favor, do NOT talk about the use of said substances.

Thank you, enjoy your discussion.

[DALAZ_68]

shouldnt this be in loud noises?

[ronmcdon]

shouldnt this be in loud noises?

good question.
to be conservative, I'd have to agree.
(best to safe in this respect, but it's not my forum needless to say)
suppose it could be interpreted either way.

Interesting discussion though nonetheless.
I doubt this will be the last town to do that sort of thing.
would be interesting to see whether or not,
CO enforces their law (should what the town be doing is illegal).
would really depend on the details of their state law.

[dudermagee]

time to move.....

[ThatGuy]

You guys are silly. This IS Loud Noises.

:confused:

[ronmcdon]

alright I take that back, apologies.

good call on the move, thanks! :)

[S14_Kouki]

its deff a big step imo

but colorado has been decriminalized for years now... along with many other states

anyone read fortune magazine?... big articles about pot in there also(front cover headline reads "is pot already legal?", because basicly... it is, i mean i can find green almost any day... and i live in bum-fu*k nowhere

You do live in the middle of no where. But you have alot of hot girls that live around you.

[20 til 3]

You do live in the middle of no where. But you have alot of hot girls that live around you.


:fawk2: if you like cowgirls?

[Slideways^Jordan]

WoW that's a really big leap in the activist eyes.

[Matej]

The government should only legalize marijuana in one state. They should pick a state no one wants to live in, so everyone wanting to smoke it legally will move to the middle of the desert somewhere.

[ronmcdon]

Lol, i'm fairly sure other states might want in, should CO be making $$$.
I'm inclined to agree there should be at least a limited number of places where the substance is sold.
maybe not a good idea to open shops next to local high schools, family places, & such.
use and/or possession would prob be much more difficult to enforce.

will be interesting to see how this plays out.
times are certainly changing, lmao.

[cc4usmc]

I'm glad I don't live in that town.


The government should only legalize marijuana in one state. They should pick a state no one wants to live in, so everyone wanting to smoke it legally will move to the middle of the desert somewhere.

I vote for Utah.

[ESmorz]

Lol, i'm fairly sure other states might want in, should CO be making $$$.
I'm inclined to agree there should be at least a limited number of places where the substance is sold.
maybe not a good idea to open shops next to local high schools, family places, & such.
use and/or possession would prob be much more difficult to enforce.

will be interesting to see how this plays out.
times are certainly changing, lmao.

There is a liquor store less than a mile away from my old High School, hell if you have a beard and it's past 10pm you don't even need an ID.

I fail to understand the double standard with dispensaries.

[ronmcdon]

I vote West Virginia or Kentucky. (should it be hypothetically limited to 1 state)
the hill-billies are growing it in bulk anyways.
might as well just legit their existing industry.

There is a liquor store less than a mile away from my old High School, hell if you have a beard and it's past 10pm you don't even need an ID.

I fail to understand the double standard with dispensaries.

Yah there's a double standard for sure.

personally I would find having liquor sold anywhere close to a hs to be in poor taste (if not also reckless).

then again if you're desperate enough drunk and/or pothead,
I suppose any reasonable distance isn't going to discourage you.
maybe it matters little, idk.

[Touge Noob S13]

I'm glad I don't live in that town.




I vote for Utah.



Agreed, lets see how the Mormons will handle it.

[ESmorz]

Agreed, lets see how the Mormons will handle it.

Probably something like this...

U_j1_lajirY

[Sleepy240]

So from what I can gather from this article its legal to possess up to an ounce of marijuana on your person, but it is still illegal to purchase and/or consume the product anywhere. If you consider that a step forward more power to ya.

[DETT]

I vote West Virginia or Kentucky. (should it be hypothetically limited to 1 state)
the hill-billies are growing it in bulk anyways.
might as well just legit their existing industry.



Yah there's a double standard for sure.

personally I would find having liquor sold anywhere close to a hs to be in poor taste (if not also reckless).

then again if you're desperate enough drunk and/or pothead,
I suppose any reasonable distance isn't going to discourage you.
maybe it matters little, idk.

Meh california has gone to the wasters anyway, I'll let you guys keep all the hippies and potheads, hell you have dispensaries and private farms FAR larger than our backwards hill jacks farms lol :fawkd:

End of argument, you keep the hippies in CA the rest of us don't want them.

[murda-c]

CA is where it's at.

Totally the state of the future.

You can wear jeans to the office and stuff.

I'm serious.

[drift_limo]

I wonder what state is next .

To bad its STILL A FEDERAL CRIME...

[ronmcdon]

Meh california has gone to the wasters anyway, I'll let you guys keep all the hippies and potheads, hell you have dispensaries and private farms FAR larger than our backwards hill jacks farms lol :fawkd:

End of argument, you keep the hippies in CA the rest of us don't want them.

Bah, more like yuppies!
there really aren't that much hippies here as the media would like you to believe (or at least not any more than any place else).

Where I live los angeles really doesn't have that many hippies.
weed smokers are plentiful nonetheless.
our freeways (particularly the 101 along hollywood) smell like skunk all the time.
You don't have to be a hippy to smoke.

[ronmcdon]

I wonder what state is next .

To bad its STILL A FEDERAL CRIME...

it's one thing to for something to be illegal.
it's another to actively enforce something illegal.
If you've been reading some of the other threads you will see that this isn't something that's been enforced dilligently.

as of about two weeks ago federal policy is to not interfere, so long as it's legal at state level. so you can put that federal baby to bed right now.

New Medical Marijuana Policy: Obama Administration Will Not Seek Arrests For People Following State Laws (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/new-medical-marijuana-pol_n_325426.html)

but, in this case, of course, it IS still illegal at the state level.
whatever, it's a symbolic gesture, it's still pretty amazing.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

kinda cool

[sacco sideways]

they acctually mad it federally legal for medical patients. just seen it on the news

[S14_Kouki]

I wonder what state is next .

To bad its STILL A FEDERAL CRIME...

Once other states see how much extra money they are missing out on they will change there mind. Then the fed's will just have to back down Hopefully. Then they can put all that money into finding the real drugs not waste billions on small time pot smokers.


You don't have to be a hippy to smoke.

110% agreed

[Sleepy240]

Once other states see how much extra money they are missing out on they will change there mind. Then the fed's will just have to back down Hopefully. Then they can put all that money into finding the real drugs not waste billions on small time pot smokers.



110% agreed

Like I said earlier I am pretty sure all this did was eliminate the "cracking" down possession charges for marijuana. Smoking it, dealing it, or carry anything more than an ounce on ones person is a convictable crime. They state is not seeing a DIME, nowhere did they say they are selling marijuana at the corner store and taxing it. The cops will still find people and pull them over / question them, its now just that if they have an ounce of marijuana on them they have to find something else to write them a ticket for (which is exactly what will happen). To me personally I think its a horrible idea.

[exitspeed]

I'm actually surprised WI hasn't done this already. I mean we already have the most lenient las against drunk driving in the country. I figured they'd be all over this.

[Ben G]

they acctually mad it federally legal for medical patients. just seen it on the news


im pretty sure thats false i believe they are still trying as always if they did im sure there would be a parade haha

[S14_Kouki]

Like I said earlier I am pretty sure all this did was eliminate the "cracking" down possession charges for marijuana. Smoking it, dealing it, or carry anything more than an ounce on ones person is a convictable crime. They state is not seeing a DIME, nowhere did they say they are selling marijuana at the corner store and taxing it. The cops will still find people and pull them over / question them, its now just that if they have an ounce of marijuana on them they have to find something else to write them a ticket for (which is exactly what will happen). To me personally I think its a horrible idea.

No they are not making money YET. But it will all come in time. Just like iv said before, cali is taxing med marijuana and the government does make money from it.

Ill say this, its better to get a stupid ticket for something then go to jail/court for some pot.

[drift_limo]

Once other states see how much extra money they are missing out on they will change there mind. Then the fed's will just have to back down Hopefully. Then they can put all that money into finding the real drugs not waste billions on small time pot smokers.


agreed

like pill poppers, thats a horrible addiction jsut like meth.

[sacco sideways]

im pretty sure thats false i believe they are still trying as always if they did im sure there would be a parade haha

nope im 110% positive that it is federally legal for medical patients only, oboma passed the law personally.


look if you dont believe me.....

New Medical Marijuana Policy: Obama Administration Will Not Seek Arrests For People Following State Laws (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/new-medical-marijuana-pol_n_325426.html)

[Ineedparts]

No they are not making money YET. But it will all come in time. Just like iv said before, cali is taxing med marijuana and the government does make money from it.

Ill say this, its better to get a stupid ticket for something then go to jail/court for some pot.

Agreed. I havent smoked pot in years but I am not against legalizing it. Has anyone read the Grow Bible? Good reads, even if you dont smoke.

[sacco sideways]

hemp can be used to make everything better and stronger without killing our forrest. look at some of the things....

Uses of Hemp (http://students.ou.edu/W/Elicia.A.Wallach-1/usesofhemp.htm)

[Matej]

In my opinion this will hurt Breckenridge. It would probably work for some town in the middle of nowhere that has nothing else going for it, but Breckenridge is already one of the most popular tourist/family destinations in Colorado. Once this news spreads more, I doubt people will be very eager to take their children on vacation to the only place in America where marijuana is legal. Plus weed tends to attract a not so desirable crowd, so I will be curious to see how their crime rate and such will compare in a few years.

[ronmcdon]

In my opinion this will hurt Breckenridge. It would probably work for some town in the middle of nowhere that has nothing else going for it, but Breckenridge is already one of the most popular tourist/family destinations in Colorado. Once this news spreads more, I doubt people will be very eager to take their children on vacation to the only place in America where marijuana is legal. Plus weed tends to attract a not so desirable crowd, so I will be curious to see how their crime rate and such will compare in a few years.

good point.

I think regardless of actual crime rates, families are going to frown on something like that.
from a purely economic point of view it's a very risky venture to do this for a town that already has a source of income.

exactly how well the town has been doing with their resort might be hard to say with data.
could also be that with the economic times, business has been slow.
maybe they are desparate.

[S14_Kouki]

In my opinion this will hurt Breckenridge. It would probably work for some town in the middle of nowhere that has nothing else going for it, but Breckenridge is already one of the most popular tourist/family destinations in Colorado. Once this news spreads more, I doubt people will be very eager to take their children on vacation to the only place in America where marijuana is legal. Plus weed tends to attract a not so desirable crowd, so I will be curious to see how their crime rate and such will compare in a few years.

True story but...... crime rate will stay the same im pretty damn sure about that. When they pasted the new laws in Oakland CA just these past couple years that made marijuana less illegal crime rate actually went down. It will prob attract less family's yes, but with in the next 10 years im sure there will be atleast 2 states that will legalize pot. So ppl are just going to have to get use to it.

Dont hide and shelter your children from the truth ie weed WILL NOT kill you nor hurt you. Just because mom's and dad's dont want there kids around it dont fucking lie to them saying its going to ruin there life's and there going to be worthless bums if they touch it.

Best advice. Grow up, establish a life, get a good job and when you are out of school and know whats good for yourself and your family then smoke or dont smoke. But dont let someone else control your life and tell you what not to do or what to do. Do it after you get a life not while your in the middle of trying to make a name for yourself.

[S14_Kouki]

P.s. it said 72% of the town voted yes for it. So im sure the town is not mad about it if almost 3/4 of the population voted for it.

[Matej]

True story but...... crime rate will stay the same im pretty damn sure about that. When they pasted the new laws in Oakland CA just these past couple years that made marijuana less illegal crime rate actually went down.
Is that compared to the crime rate from when smoking/carrying marijuana was a crime?

Yesterday I saw a station wagon full of juggalo-looking 'people' with "HEADED 2 BREKENRIDGE" (quoted with the spelling error) written on the rear window.

[drift_limo]

juggalo. dont you mean juffalo?

lol

I heard they are tryn to do this for all the states now.
so maybe some good news.

[S14_Kouki]

Is that compared to the crime rate from when smoking/carrying marijuana was a crime?

Yesterday I saw a station wagon full of juggalo-looking 'people' with "HEADED 2 BREKENRIDGE" (quoted with the spelling error) written on the rear window.

They compared it from like 5 years ago to just like last year. Some shit like that ill have to find the article.

But we should not stereo type ppl. I fucking hate hate hate ppl assuming and im a "street racer" when I drive my 240 I do not street race nor put ppls life in danger when I drive. Im sure this group of ppl are going there to smoke and hang out but there also going to prob by gas and snacks there so in return there giving that community more money to spend on streets/schools/buildings/ ect ect. Who even knows maybe one of the grandparents live there.

[S14_Kouki]

juggalo. dont you mean juffalo?

lol

I heard they are tryn to do this for all the states now.
so maybe some good news.

What legalize??

[Sleepy240]

They compared it from like 5 years ago to just like last year. Some shit like that ill have to find the article.

But we should not stereo type ppl. I fucking hate hate hate ppl assuming and im a "street racer" when I drive my 240 I do not street race nor put ppls life in danger when I drive. Im sure this group of ppl are going there to smoke and hang out but there also going to prob by gas and snacks there so in return there giving that community more money to spend on streets/schools/buildings/ ect ect. Who even knows maybe one of the grandparents live there.

Stereotypes exist because they usually have some truth to them. It doesn't matter whether its "street racers" or "potheads", it effects everyone... One bad apple spoills the bunch. While I do agree on the fact they will probably see some increased income does it really make that much? My guess is they did this to prove more of a point, and sadly we won't know how it works till atleast another year or two down the road. Either way Breckenridge IMO goes from a tourist attraction that attracted families, and other cliental, now attract some of the undesirables (mainly people who will visit it JUST because they can have Pot). Lets face it, most people in their early 20's aren't going there for the resorts.

[drift_limo]

What legalize??

yes.

but its not gonna happen over night.

[S14_Kouki]

yes.

but its not gonna happen over night.

Yeah. Its prob going to happen just like whats happen here one small town at a time is going to legalize then in like 10 years prob like 50% of america will be legalized.

[HalveBlue]

Eh...like someone already said, Colorado is, and has been, pretty lineant in regards to marijuana for some time now.

I remember walking through downtown Denver in like '05 and a couple of bums were smoking a joint maybe 150 yards from the state capitol.

This fight will come down to how powerful the anti-drug lobby vs. the pro-legalization lobby really is.

Right now this country is drifting back towards the pre-Nixon administration years. Which is fine by me. I guess I just don't have that sense of moral panic over peoples' personal choices.

The War on Drugs is bullshit anyway. Far more lives have been ruined due to this "war" than have been "saved".

The government should only legalize marijuana in one state. They should pick a state no one wants to live in, so everyone wanting to smoke it legally will move to the middle of the desert somewhere.

I pick Wyoming...or North Dakota.

And :fawkd:Fuck You:fawkd: to all the Utah haters.

:D:D:D:DSLC for life!:D:D:D:D

[drift_limo]

Yeah. Its prob going to happen just like whats happen here one small town at a time is going to legalize then in like 10 years prob like 50% of america will be legalized.


small towns will always be the test subjects.

plus tabacco companys like malboro and camel are already jumpin on this.

but still i rather grown my own, god know what they will put in it like ciggs.

[JesusFreakDrifter]

what im wondering is this, does the legalization of cannibus, make it now perfectly acceptable to use even for jobs that require drug tests??

[ronmcdon]

^^^
that's another can of worms

I would hope that employers retain the option of discriminating the hiring/firing of employees.
(at least for medical reasons).

It's one thing to legalize the substance.
It's quite another to force business to hire recreational pot users.
(that would be going too far imo).

[BustedS13]

what im wondering is this, does the legalization of cannibus, make it now perfectly acceptable to use even for jobs that require drug tests??
i'd imagine that if it's legal where you live and where the job is, they couldn't possibly fire you for testing positive.
^^^
that's another can of worms

I would hope that employers retain the option of discriminating the hiring/firing of employees.
(at least for medical reasons).

It's one thing to legalize the substance.
It's quite another to force business to hire recreational pot users.
(that would be going too far imo).
you're right, it is another can of worms. why should businesses hiring recreational marijuana users be any different than hiring people who consume alcohol? they're both legal.

[S14_Kouki]

you're right, it is another can of worms. why should businesses hiring recreational marijuana users be any different than hiring people who consume alcohol? they're both legal.

I fucking hate how a alcoholic can stop drinking for 2 days and pass a test for a job. But yet if someone stopped smoking pot for a month could still fail.

I want to make a marijuana test that ONLY test for lets say if you smoked in the past 48 hours or some shit. Just like stupid ass hair test. You could stop smoking pot for 2 or 3 years but yet still come up dirty thats bull shit.

So when do you think jobs will start doing blood test or spinal taps and go 10 or 15 years back. Does it really fucking matter if you smoked weed 3 years ago. Company's look at it as if you smoked 3 years ago it will effect you now and your dangerous to work around ppl.

[BustedS13]

eh, really they're only going back about three months, and there has to be a certain level of thc in your hair to test positive.
but i still agree 110% with you. and once pot is truly LEGAL, i'm sure a breathalyzer-like test that confirms you're high RIGHT NOW will show up.

[drift_limo]

^^^
that's another can of worms

I would hope that employers retain the option of discriminating the hiring/firing of employees.
(at least for medical reasons).

It's one thing to legalize the substance.
It's quite another to force business to hire recreational pot users.
(that would be going too far imo).


when a drug test is taken ; piss test they only search for a certain percent in the body bc companys know their pontencial employee have "pothead" friends. same goes for hair.

now DNA drug test thats a whole different ball game.

I've had both type of test piss and hair and passd dont know how but i have no detox or lettin my friends pee in a bag.

BUt in the sense that if you smoke medicaly they cannot turn you down for the job, you can sue the crap out of them .

[ThatGuy]

You still can't show up for work drunk, or drink at work.

Should be the same for "IF" weed becomes legal. Can't come to work high, can't smoke weed at work.



This is not an opening for you to tell me about how many times you've showed up for work, hungover/still drunk/high. This is speaking strictly in terms of what you are "allowed" to do. Not what you will attempt to get away with.

[JesusFreakDrifter]

I fucking hate how a alcoholic can stop drinking for 2 days and pass a test for a job. But yet if someone stopped smoking pot for a month could still fail.

I want to make a marijuana test that ONLY test for lets say if you smoked in the past 48 hours or some shit. Just like stupid ass hair test. You could stop smoking pot for 2 or 3 years but yet still come up dirty thats bull shit.

So when do you think jobs will start doing blood test or spinal taps and go 10 or 15 years back. Does it really fucking matter if you smoked weed 3 years ago. Company's look at it as if you smoked 3 years ago it will effect you now and your dangerous to work around ppl.

LMAO absolutely priceless...spinal tap lol...wow that made my day

[ESmorz]

Rad.

First U.S. marijuana cafe opens for business in Portland -- DailyFinance (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/15/first-u-s-marijuana-cafe-opens-for-business-in-portland/?icid=main|aim|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyfin ance.com%2F2009%2F11%2F15%2Ffirst-u-s-marijuana-cafe-opens-for-business-in-portland%2Fhttp://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/15/first-u-s-marijuana-cafe-opens-for-business-in-portland/?icid=main|aim|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyfin ance.com%2F2009%2F11%2F15%2Ffirst-u-s-marijuana-cafe-opens-for-business-in-portland%2F)

[drift_limo]

You still can't show up for work drunk, or drink at work.

Should be the same for "IF" weed becomes legal. Can't come to work high, can't smoke weed at work.



This is not an opening for you to tell me about how many times you've showed up for work, hungover/still drunk/high. This is speaking strictly in terms of what you are "allowed" to do. Not what you will attempt to get away with.

with out a doubt of course. I myself own a business i wouldnt let my employees to come all high . legal or not. you know
even I dont smoke while im on the job.

[kandyflip445]

Just a question. If the Feds wanted to make it legal, couldn't they just start issuing the tax stamp they required to make it 'illegal'? So wouldn't it really already be 'legal' just no one has the tax stamp right?

[drift_limo]

you can get tax stamp. but here is the catch you much bring in the weed to show that you have it so they can give you the stamp. I think this was passd in the 50's or 20's when they did this and its still in congress.
The funny think is your incriminating yourself in the process since it is a federal law.

you tube it its true go to a libary and read about it its true..
our gov is funny in certain ways.

[Walperstyle]

I can only imagine the crazyness of it all if they did legalize it at the federal level. Imagine how many inmates would be released, now possibly more f'd up then before they went in. Not to mention the class action lawsuits against the government for lost wages that people would try to sue for. It would be crazy.

In Canada, its illegal, but generally the police don't care if you have a couple joints on you. You'd have to be an obvious dealer to be an issue. That said, if they want to nail you, they'll just add it to the charges. Depends on what they are looking for and how much of an ass you are. its kinda nice knowing I wont go to jail unless someone in my car is carrying a pound with them, even then, I might walk if the passenger claims it was his. I know some of your states like to nail everyone.