Enkei PF01

[Rittmeister]

Anyone seen this wheel yet? Saw one in a magazine ad recently. Looks an awful lot like a Work CR Kai.

Is it still a knockoff when a wheel maker who's somewhat "respected" (Enkei) makes a near-copy of a wheel that's made by a manufacturer who's more or less worshiped (Work)?

I'm curious, since this isn't like the Rota Torque or Drag DR31 (or whatever Drag's replica is called). I know there are those who really hate replica designs even if the manufacturing process used by the replica company is decent. Is this going to start a trend of hating on Enkei? Enkei, who make wheels that are acknowledged to be excellent, like the RPF1?

[murda-c]

I hear it's supposed to be lighter than the rpf1, and a lot lighter than the cr kai

[ThatGuy]

Can these wheels ONLY be mounted on S-Chassis or Z-Chassis vehicles?

[enkei2k]

yeah they look like cr kai's. but then again, lots of wheels look similar. what about the volk gt-v? oem G35 coupe? similar, but not the same. just because they looks similar doesn't mean they are knock off. i'd get the PF01's, depending on what offset they offer it in.

http://www.0-60mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pf011_1.jpg

[OptionZero]

enkei usually has garbage sizing anyways so who cares
theres only so many wheel designs out there

MAT means these'll prolly be lighter than CR kais

oh and the spokes are a bit thinner i think

[brndck]

/\/\/\ garbage sizes?
you mean not "custom wheel" sizes?
i was pretty stoked with 17x10 +18 and 18x10.5 +18.
just because you can't have everything in negative 5million offset doesn't mean its crap.
personally, i don't think these look THAT much like cr-kai. more like rpf1 with only 10 spokes instead of 12. AND lighter than rpf1, which were already REALLY damn light to begin with. i will for sure purchase a set of these, provided the pricing is in the same range as rpf1s.

[brndck]

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg209/ravspecrick/crkai.jpg
or
http://www.0-60mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pf011_1.jpg

[S14_Kouki]

I would rather have the cr's

[PhoPoweR]

They look kind like Evo IX wheels.... wait... they are haha

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/phopower/evo1002.jpg

[tricky_ab]

I would rather have the cr's

I was thinking the same thing...

[wangan_cruiser]

it dont matter to me. as long they are light and durable.

enkei is enkei

work is work

both are wheel manufacturers with good reputation.

[articdragon192]

I'd take the Enkie, but I fear they'd bend too easy. Lightness comes at a price.

[beefyx323x]

they do look like stock evo 9 wheels... kinda... hahaha id take the CR kais

[articdragon192]

Well, Enkie did make the non-MR wheels on Evos.

[TommyGun]

very similar, but easy to tell difference. hub center is smaller/closer to the lug holes. shape of the design between each spoke is rounder on the enkei, sharper more pointed on the cr's. both wheels look good imo but work's ftw

[OptionZero]

/\/\/\ garbage sizes?
you mean not "custom wheel" sizes?
i was pretty stoked with 17x10 +18 and 18x10.5 +18.
just because you can't have everything in negative 5million offset doesn't mean its crap.
personally, i don't think these look THAT much like cr-kai. more like rpf1 with only 10 spokes instead of 12. AND lighter than rpf1, which were already REALLY damn light to begin with. i will for sure purchase a set of these, provided the pricing is in the same range as rpf1s.

nt03+m
rp03

good looking wheels, crappy sizingj

never said anything about negative offsets, you're just using a lazy strawman

and not all of their wheels are even available in 17x10+18 or 18x10.5+18; we dont even know if the new wheels will get those sizes and offets specifically

[articdragon192]

nt03+m
rp03

good looking wheels, crappy sizingj

never said anything about negative offsets, you're just using a lazy strawman

and not all of their wheels are even available in 17x10+18 or 18x10.5+18; we dont even know if the new wheels will get those sizes and offets specifically

RP03s go 18*10 in low offsets as well as thier 17*10s. 17/18*9.5s though, suck. However, I've heard that these will come in those RPF1 sizes.

[Bumnah]

I know what I'm buying in the spring.

[Xbroke_kidX]

who wants lights wheels? i thought thats why everyone went and bought sport craps and rotas? oh wait.....


they dont look bad

[ronmcdon]

Ah that's nice!
As long as they're cheap, durable, and fit bbk's w/out spacers,
I can see myself getting a set in the near future.

I actually like the fact that it's not too flashy.
very oem looking imo.
wouldn't be surprised if the evo 9 enkie wheels were the same.

[RacerX1]

I like em, and Im sick of seeing RPF1s every where I look.

[randyjordan]

kai's are played out anyway


oh snap :)

[drivens13]

Wonder how concave the face will be on the more aggressively sized ones.?.?

[slow40sx]

eh, they look alright, if they came in good sizes i'd paint em some dumbass color and rock em for drift spares

[Johny5]

enkei usually has garbage sizing anyways so who cares
theres only so many wheel designs out there

MAT means these'll prolly be lighter than CR kais

oh and the spokes are a bit thinner i think

are you serious? did you think before you wrote this? 18x10.5 +15? 17x10s? 18x10s? 18x9.5s? 17x9s? 17x9.5s? qft!!!

[enkei2k]

are you serious? did you think before you wrote this? 18x10.5 +15? 17x10s? 18x10s? 18x9.5s? 17x9s? 17x9.5s? qft!!!

i think when Option said sizing, he meant offset. I think the general consensus is we don't like to see a +38 offset wheel here. But yes, Enkei does have some weird sizes...only the racing series do you see some fairly low offset. Still haven't seen any single digit goodness yet though I could be wrong.

[OptionZero]

are you serious? did you think before you wrote this? 18x10.5 +15? 17x10s? 18x10s? 18x9.5s? 17x9s? 17x9.5s? qft!!!

the RPF1 comes in all those sizes

but not all their wheels do

specifically, the NT03 does not come in better than 18x9.5 +27 or 18x10+30

the RP03 only comes in 17x10+18 (nothing better in 17). Their 18in sizing is fine.

RP05 and FS01 doesn't come in offset lower than +25

the TM02, made by Enkei, lacks 17in sizes as well

mainly i want a 17x9.5 + 12 NT03

and i'm mad the RPF01 isn't concave enough

[JVDSKYRINE]

Anyone seen this wheel yet? Saw one in a magazine ad recently. Looks an awful lot like a Work CR Kai.

Is it still a knockoff when a wheel maker who's somewhat "respected" (Enkei) makes a near-copy of a wheel that's made by a manufacturer who's more or less worshiped (Work)?

I'm curious, since this isn't like the Rota Torque or Drag DR31 (or whatever Drag's replica is called). I know there are those who really hate replica designs even if the manufacturing process used by the replica company is decent. Is this going to start a trend of hating on Enkei? Enkei, who make wheels that are acknowledged to be excellent, like the RPF1?


It's funny cuz the enkei RPF01 looks exactly like ame tracers......I had a set of bronze ame tracers way before RPF01's were even out.

[simmode1]

I'm curious, since this isn't like the Rota Torque or Drag DR31 (or whatever Drag's replica is called). I know there are those who really hate replica designs even if the manufacturing process used by the replica company is decent. Is this going to start a trend of hating on Enkei? Enkei, who make wheels that are acknowledged to be excellent, like the RPF1?

There's quite a few companies that make knockoff wheels that ppl seem to overlook when they are Rota bashing. My personal favorite is when ppl diss the P45R and then say LMGT4 is too much so they'd rather get Bee*R B5. How is the B5 not a knockoff, too? Or Hanbai DT05R's too?

I dig the new Enkei, specifically how if has less holes than the Work wheel, which is always annoying to me. I mean, why have all those holes if the wheel isn't gonna be universal? But I won't be getting the PF01, since I won't be going 5 lug.

[irritatedmax]

Thread resurrection...but I guess these are actually for sale now. Sizing is the same as RPF1. Pricing is the same. Weight is lighter.

[simmode1]

Thread resurrection...but I guess these are actually for sale now. Sizing is the same as RPF1. Pricing is the same. Weight is lighter.


If thats the case, they really need to drop the prices on the RPF1's, IMO.

[drftmark]

I don't see any good sizes for 17 inch wheels... widest it goes in 17 is 8.5

if you want this wheel it to fit good it looks like you need to go 18x9.5 or 18x10.5 with +15

[irritatedmax]

^^^ if thats the case, they really need to drop the prices on the RPF1's.

Probably won't be happening any time soon considering they are sold out in the US. The EvoX crowd has a demand for large light wheels.

[!Zar!]

^^^ if thats the case, they really need to drop the prices on the RPF1's.

Why ?

[drivens13]

And the face is convex, how ghey. I realize they market it as a lightweight wheel for racing possibly but damn make the face concave or atleast a flat face with lip.How difficult would that have been.

[simmode1]

Why ?

Why would the RPF1's continue to sell if the lighter PF01's are being offered in the same sizes, at the same price?

Makes sense to me that if you had to choose between the two, most ppl would pick the wheel that is lighter. Unless there was a reason to offset that choice, like price difference.

To be honest, I've never liked the design of the RPF1 as well. It was always very boring and spartan to me. It's only real appeal was it lightweight and sizes. Now the PF01 has taken that away.

Just my opinion though.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

most people buy wheels because they think they look nice, not because of the weight.

[wh0aitznic0]

Why would the RPF1's continue to sell if the lighter PF01's are being offered in the same sizes, at the same price?

Makes sense to me that if you had to choose between the two, most ppl would pick the wheel that is lighter. Unless there was a reason to offset that choice, like price difference.

To be honest, I've never liked the design of the RPF1 as well. It was always very boring and spartan to me. It's only real appeal was it lightweight and sizes. Now the PF01 has taken that away.

Just my opinion though.

Why are you even fucking worried about it? You're not going five lug so you don't have the privilege of rocking RPF1's in dope sizes.

Have fun with 17x7 +45. Or bRotas. Which you've defended a few posts back.

[irritatedmax]

I wouldn't say they are convex. They are just about like RPF1s.

http://www.enkei.com/2010_images/pf01/3_large.jpg

[!Zar!]

Why would the RPF1's continue to sell if the lighter PF01's are being offered in the same sizes, at the same price?

Makes sense to me that if you had to choose between the two, most ppl would pick the wheel that is lighter. Unless there was a reason to offset that choice, like price difference.

To be honest, I've never liked the design of the RPF1 as well. It was always very boring and spartan to me. It's only real appeal was it lightweight and sizes. Now the PF01 has taken that away.

Just my opinion though.

There is more to sales than just based off of how much a wheel weighs.

[ZilviaKid]

why does anyone buy anything that isnt an rpf1 by those standards?

work miesters? fuck that!
ssr sp1? fuck that!
vsxx? fuck that

gimmi dem light wheels!



NOT

[kalypso123]

these beat out the cr kai's cause of their price.

[C-unit]

fuck cr kai..they dont have 10.5j

[Z33dori]

I wouldn't say they are convex. They are just about like RPF1s.

http://www.enkei.com/2010_images/pf01/3_large.jpg


my RPF1s are flat... and not all gay like that shit.... get the fuck out of here

but yes... they arent terribly convex..... i'll take CR Kai any day

[OptionZero]

It's funny cuz the enkei RPF01 looks exactly like ame tracers......I had a set of bronze ame tracers way before RPF01's were even out.

are you referring to the ame tracer tm02?

[kalypso123]

all decently priced 17"-18" diameter / 9"-10.5" wide, wheels are fair game.


I get tested when I see more a more wheel companies leaving our market and designing wheels that are 19" and 20".

[irritatedmax]

my RPF1s are flat... and not all gay like that shit.... get the fuck out of here

but yes... they arent terribly convex..... i'll take CR Kai any day


I was saying in regard to brake clearance and lipage. Neither is designed to be hella concave faced wheels. But when it comes to cheap, light, and tough track rims; I'll take either over CR Kai.

So, you get the fuck out of here. :ghey:

[JVDSKYRINE]

are you referring to the ame tracer tm02?

Sorry I put an 0 in there i meant RPF1


heres ame's
http://www.chootawee.com/ctwracing/picture/other/050851/tracer/tracer_1.jpg

[VROOOM]

AME's are made by Enkei.

[Z33dori]

true story

[articdragon192]

AMEs = overpriced Enkies. If these are lighter than RPF1s, then I expect them to be weaker as well. RPFs were soft already. Can't imagine how easy these would be to bend.

[kalypso123]

first time i heard of rpf's being soft

[articdragon192]

They've always been soft. My buddies who race. Stopped using RPFs because they kept bending the wheels out of shape at the track. They have switched over. To 5Zigens and Racing Harts for track duty. No more square rims. I mean, it is a cast wheel. Would it be stronger than say a Sportsmax or Rota of the same weight? Yyeah, but at 16lbs and a cast wheel it woont be amazingly strong.

Now, with that said, i'd rather have a wheel bend on me that crack and completely fail on me.

[badicalradical]

What? RPF1 have been tried and tested on sooo many cars its redundant to bring it up. No offense but your "buddies" need to mind the curbing's on track or not go off or whatever the case. BTW the only track worthy wheel you mentioned broadly is the 5zigen FN01R-F and ? and racing hart wheels are heavy for the most part.

sorry if im being a dick im drinking for my birthday and don't mean it.

[SoSideways]

FN01R-F?

You mean the old forged FNs that they don't sell anymore?

[datboibrad]

What? RPF1 have been tried and tested on sooo many cars its redundant to bring it up. No offense but your "buddies" need to mind the curbing's on track or not go off or whatever the case. BTW the only track worthy wheel you mentioned broadly is the 5zigen FN01R-F and ? and racing hart wheels are heavy for the most part.

sorry if im being a dick im drinking for my birthday and don't mean it.
classic.

msglgth

[Z33dori]

any wheel will bend and break if u hit it hard enough...... no wheel is indestructible

[VROOOM]

FN01R-F?

You mean the old forged FNs that they don't sell anymore?

I had a set of those on my old Civic. weighed less than 10 pounds for a 15x7

[SoSideways]

I'm not saying anything bad about those.

Besides the fact that you can't get them brand new anymore.

[articdragon192]

What? RPF1 have been tried and tested on sooo many cars its redundant to bring it up. No offense but your "buddies" need to mind the curbing's on track or not go off or whatever the case. BTW the only track worthy wheel you mentioned broadly is the 5zigen FN01R-F and ? and racing hart wheels are heavy for the most part.

sorry if im being a dick im drinking for my birthday and don't mean it.

Uh, this is in wheel to wheel racing. A. Dude dropped sponsorship from Enkei because the wheel couldn't take the heavy abuse. The FN was only a lbs heavier, but after a full season, no bends. And CP-Rs aren't heavy.

[kalypso123]

I mean, it is a cast wheel. Would it be stronger than say a Sportsmax or Rota of the same weight? Yyeah, but at 16lbs and a cast wheel it woont be amazingly strong.



cool, i'd still track them if I ever bought some...

but i dont see myself buying these.

[doublestitch180]

This rim is sick! I think they neeed to have a more concave fitment though.