WTF's wrong with Domestic car companies?

[twitchy]

I have a lot of friends who drive a lot of different cars and I thought Id relate something to you all

Royce drives a 2001 Neon. At 60 kms, he blew his engine and it was replaced under warranty. The camshaft guide bearing or something snapped and collapsed the valvetrain into the cylinders, pummeling the valves with the pistons. Destroyed the motor, cooked it in less than 15 seconds. at 60 000 kms! He doesnt drive overly aggressively either (not that that should matter)

Krista drives a 2000 Cavalier Z24
Blown engine at 90 000 kms. Same as royces neon basically. Shes a chick and drives like one.

Peter drives a 1998 Cavalier Z24. His crank journal let go, and his engine exploded from the inside. No warranty left. 4000 for a new one. He had 84 000 kms on it. Drives nicely.

Andre drives a 99 Z24. Last week he blew the second engine on it in a year. Both engines valvetrains came apart and each has less than 80 000 kms on it

Casey has a 99 Z22. He blew the head on his (i dont know how the hell you blow a head...) and there was no warranty. Drives crazy though.

Do you see the trend?? What the hell is going on here, it seems like everyone with a Z24 has a blown engine by 100 kms, at least people I know. My 240 has 150 kms now and runs like new. GM has no business building a DOHC engine.

What a bunch of goofs. They make a nice truck but their "quad four" engines are S H I T ! ! ! ! !

[DarkRaptor42]

you just posted a bunch of cars that everyone knows have ****ty engines. Its nothing new.

[AKADriver]

Ya, GM has no business building a DOHC motor....
http://www.zr1.net/gifs/LT5no1.jpg
(yes, I know, Lotus helped)

The Quad4 was always an unrefined engine, but severe problems with it are rare, sounds like you got a bad batch. **** happens, someone I know had three stock Honda engines blow and swears up and down that Hondas are the most unreliable cars ever made (never mind what those fools at JD power and consumer reports say, right).

The 2.0 Neon engine is pretty damn good. Very flexible, fun to tweak.

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http://www.zr1.net/gifs/LT5no1.jpg

Its a shame that GM didnt drop one in every Vette :(

[silnv]

OHHHHH lt5's very sexy. :)

[M.Piedlourde]

Originally posted by twitchy
Krista drives a 2000 Cavalier Z24

Peter drives a 1998 Cavalier Z24.

Andre drives a 99 Z24.

Casey has a 99 Z22.

GM has no business building a DOHC engine.

Actually, I think the point you're actually making here is that GM needs to stop building pieces of **** that masquerade as cars, such as the Cavalier.

[fogleroller]

Originally posted by M.Piedlourde
Actually, I think the point you're actually making here is that GM needs to stop building pieces of **** that masquerade as cars, such as the Cavalier.

LOFL, yeah, they should have spent less time on redesigning the tail lights and more time on the engine/tranny setup.

[MorganS13]

Originally posted by fogleroller
LOFL, yeah, they should have spent less time on redesigning the tail lights and more time on the engine/tranny setup.

thats where the Ecotec comes in ;) that and the new Vortec 4.2 are very strong engines. GM has definitely come up with some fine engines in their time along with their failures..

stares at C5 wallpaper

[twitchy]

yeah, its a shame they cant put that 4 cammer vette V8 in every cavalier.

Also a shame that they cant mass produce an engine like that and put it in a little car and sell the whole thing for like 13 grand

Yes GM makes some good cars and engines, and some bad ones. Maybe im biased but everyone has nothing but trouble with cavaliers where i live and you just DONT buy them.

[DarkRaptor42]

wait a sec, that vette engine is from a cavalier???

[twitchy]

Originally posted by DarkRaptor42
wait a sec, that vette engine is from a cavalier???

no no no, I mean that the GM people build nice engines for their expensive cars but i was sarcastically saying they should put that four cam V8 into cavaliers so they might have a nice engine

[nissan slut]

nurrr.....

[Jsquared]

Ya, GM has no business building a DOHC motor....

(yes, I know, Lotus helped)

actually GM had nothing to do with the design of that engine (ZR-1 engine), other than paying for the development. it was designed by Lotus Engineering and built by Mercury Marine (makes boat engines).

[AKADriver]

Lotus consulted on the LT5 design, something they did quite a bit of in the '80s. But it was a joint design. Mercury Marine provided final assembly of the engines in their plants because they were better equipped for small-volume production than behemoth GM... most MM engines are derived from current or past GM engines.

[silnv]

Either way it is still a beast of an engine!

[whateverjames]

Originally posted by AKADriver
most MM engines are derived from current or past GM engines.

ah so that's why my cousin's boat has a GM 4.3L V6.

[S13Grl]

Well that's why these cars cost 1/2 has much as other decent cars will. In any case, not all of them break that easy... nah, never mind, they do. Ok, case closed, the Cavalier sucks. :)

I guess it depends on your luck. At least parts are cheap... ;)

[twitchy]

funny thing I noticed..

all my friends who have cavaliers that run after 90 or 100 kms have no exhaust mods

for some reason everyone who has a muffler on theirs (decides stock) are the ones with engines blowing up and it usually starts with the valvetrain

Take it as you will....spurious coincidence or perhaps these engines need a certain exhaust backpressure to stay intact