My cage

[Backintoans13]

So i finally got around to having my buddy build my cage for me. I started a thread of what color i should paint my interior once the cage was done....well its done so here it is.....




http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/RollCage013.jpg

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http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/RollCage094.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/RollCage115.jpg

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http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/RollCage132.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/RollCage147.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/RollCage149.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/RollCage152-1.jpg

I had originally wanted to paint the car and interior the purple of the Honda Fit but i have changed that honda purple to a nissan purple....Midnight Pearl, im sure most of you nissan heads know what this color looks like. It should be getting sprayed this coming week or next. Got a ticket i need to pay for first.

[jspaeth]

That is so badass and robust looking..........I feel like you could just roll the shit out of your car at like 100 mph and be okay.......but don't do that.

Great pics of the build btw

[Backintoans13]

That is so badass and robust looking..........I feel like you could just roll the shit out of your car at like 100 mph and be okay.......but don't do that.

Great pics of the build btw Ha Ha, thats funny......i just told my gf that last night lol but of course i would never do that on purpose. Thanks!!

[JEDIs13]

cage looks good. im looking forward to seeing this once its painted

[Maiku240sxS14]

Very nice, welds look sweet! I just got my cage in and its in for paint should have it back this weekend. Post some pics when she's done...

[xpertsnowcarver]

I'm going to have to make a trip to NM to have you make one of these for me :D

Going to be hard trying to pick a color thats "original" since most have been done already..
Can't go wrong with a Charcoal pearl like this cedes :)
http://www.flemingsultimategarage.com/galleria_images/839/839_main_f.jpg

[Backintoans13]

Thanks for the compliments guys, my buddy Nick is good at what he does. Ill be sure to post the pics of when its painted.

[Backintoans13]

Ok so here's another lil update.....got the car back Fri from being painted inside. I had many sleepless nights thinking of how I would go about the interior color. I contemplated many different scenarios like ALL white inlcuding cage or White with Purple cage or Purple with White Cage or ALL silver including cage and finally decided with all purple. I had alot of ppl help with the descision with pics of cars that had there whole inside one color including cage likes these.....

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/purples13.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/purples13inside.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/allred.jpg

All those cars led me to my descision to keep it all one color. I aint gonna lie....in the beginning i wasnt really feeling it, i thought I made the wrong choice and felt maybe i should of gone all white or white with a purple or purple with the white cage but ater seeing the above cars and other cars that were posted for me i have made peace with it :lol: If i ever decide to change anything it will be the cage, ill either get it resprayed another color or maybe wrap it with some cool stickers or something either way here it is.....YES....ONLY 2 pic's right now, as it is im not really satisfied with these pic's much less the others that i have , look like crappy cell phone pics so i will retake the pics when its a better day and post em again. Let me know what yall think good or negative


http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/painted001.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/painted003.jpg

[Maiku240sxS14]

Maybe its the picture but I'm not digging the darkish paint, looks black. Post up some better pictures. Just got mine back from interior paint. =) went with all white. Now the joy of hiding the wire harness. Looks good.

[Backintoans13]

Maybe its the picture but I'm not digging the darkish paint, looks black. Post up some better pictures. Just got mine back from interior paint. =) went with all white. Now the joy of hiding the wire harness. Looks good.

Yeah the pics are crappy....it was getting ready to rain here when i got it back so rushed the picture taking, ill take more pics when the weather is nicer....as far as the color goes....its not black, its Midnight Purple, color code LP2. Post pics of yours, id love to see all white.....then again maybe not lol might want me to redo mine if i like the all white more lol and i know what you mean bout the wire harness lol

[NINJASPY]

nice work!!!
usually darker/flat colors are better for glare issues etc.

any plans for door bars?

[Brian]

damn dude.

super jealous. It looks great.

[Backintoans13]

nice work!!!
usually darker/flat colors are better for glare issues etc.

any plans for door bars?
Thanks bro....yeah thats one of the issues that i thought bout when i first saw it.....i thought maybe it shouldnt of been cleared....oh well lol um for the door bars down the road i will. I was gonna do a 6pt with door bars before i painted but have decided to do the s13.5 conversion so i decided to save the cash from finishing my cage towards the conversion. This is still gonna be my daily driver and didnt really want to deal with climbing in and out of the car being my DD. Once i get a true DD i will go ahead with the full cage and get it resprayed...alot of ppl told me to finish the cage before i painted it but no biggie

[Dousan_PG]

looks awesome
excellent choice!

[Backintoans13]

damn dude.

super jealous. It looks great.

Thanks bro....glad other ppl like it more then i do lol i like it but it will grow on me more and more.

[Backintoans13]

looks awesome
excellent choice!


Thanks bro

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

feel the power. koguchi power. looks good.

[sleeper108]

what did it put you back if you don't mind my asking? I have a s13 hatch im trying to get caged, but i cant afford anything online, or one of the fab shops intown.

if you could PM me what it would cost, and how long, i would really appreciate it!

[s0fa king]

that thing is gorgeous!

[Maiku240sxS14]

here's a lil teaser...I'm very happy that I went with all white is came out delicious.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/nihon_jin/S14%20Cage/DSC00116.jpg

[Backintoans13]

what did it put you back if you don't mind my asking? I have a s13 hatch im trying to get caged, but i cant afford anything online, or one of the fab shops intown.

if you could PM me what it would cost, and how long, i would really appreciate it!

No problem bro...you got PM

[Backintoans13]

Thanks everyone for the compliments....really appreciate it. Its good to know that it DID come out good and that it was only me that really didnt like it. I think the clear is what got to me the most but all these responses are making me like it even more.

[Backintoans13]

here's a lil teaser...I'm very happy that I went with all white is came out delicious.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/nihon_jin/S14%20Cage/DSC00116.jpg

Dude thats fucking SEX!!! Hmmmm......lol oh well maybe down the road ill respray it

[Slammed Assassin]

good job. it came out really clean.

[sleeper108]

these all look good! im looking to get my cage painted blue chrome. (infinite diamond silver exterior +blue chrome cage and black w/ blue chrome wheels i think will look like sex)


anyways, i got the info, and in the next week or 2 (if my brother pays me) ill be taking my 240 to this guy. I cant wait!!

[RurouniMidnight]

nice! i really like the purple and the fact you painted the same color as the exterior is going to be.

[Backintoans13]

nice! i really like the purple and the fact you painted the same color as the exterior is going to be.

Thanks bro...and yes when the conversion is done the exterior will definitely be the same color :D

[drift_limo]

looks great..

[tricky_ab]

That midnight purple looks GREAT! I am super jealous of all the cage talk in this thread!

[ixfxi]

dude youre building up a champagne gold 240sx?


you guys gotta know, you cant build that color car.... only red, black, white... thats the only color suitable for modification.


champagne gold is for secretaries and asshole light builders

[Royal_T]

I love that midnight purple, looks very clean,,good job... I can't wait to get mine painted this week.. Going with a white cage with gold flakes in it...Should look sick

[S14_Kouki]

Why do non of your cages go to the rear frame rails??
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g269/pandadrifter/IMG_0685.jpg

[Not You]

Nice, are you going to do a hoop/lateral bars?

That white cage has the worst door bars i've ever seen.

[S14_Kouki]

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/RollCage147.jpg


The only bad thing I see is you welded to a bend in the main hoop. Reason the metal is weaker there becuase it stretches from the bender.

[OBEEWON]

How come no front section to the cage? Welds look decent.

[BustedS13]

Why do non of your cages go to the rear frame rails??


i've always wondered the same. seems 90% of hatch cages wind up going to the strut towers.

[Backintoans13]

dude youre building up a champagne gold 240sx?


you guys gotta know, you cant build that color car.... only red, black, white... thats the only color suitable for modification.


champagne gold is for secretaries and asshole light builders

Ha Ha...it will never be champagne again after the conversion is done :D





I love that midnight purple, looks very clean,,good job... I can't wait to get mine painted this week.. Going with a white cage with gold flakes in it...Should look sick

That sounds like its gonna look sweet....post pics when its done!




Nice, are you going to do a hoop/lateral bars?

That white cage has the worst door bars i've ever seen.

Eventually i will....for now thats how its gonna stay. Wont do anything further till i get me a real daily driver.

[S14_Kouki]

i've always wondered the same. seems 90% of hatch cages wind up going to the strut towers.

Idk thats why they invented strut tower bars. So many ppl are confused these days

[carter101]

dope shit, diggin the white

[Not You]

Idk thats why they invented strut tower bars. So many ppl are confused these days
Or you could just do both...

[[email protected]]

Look similar to my old s13's bar (minus the rear x brace):

http://www.msprotege.com/members/[email protected]/cage%203%20(Medium).JPG

I painted it that flip flop paint with a ton of sparkle clear in it.. I wish I had a pic of it in the sun.. looked pretty ok.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/[email protected]/CagePaint1%20(Medium).JPG

[S14_Kouki]

Or you could just do both...

WTF The whole point is to have the bars go from the main hoop to the rear frame rails thats the best/ most effective way to build a cage. Now I see having a strut bar entwined into the roll cage being good.

[Not You]

WTF The whole point is to have the bars go from the main hoop to the rear frame rails thats the best/ most effective way to build a cage. Now I see having a strut bar entwined into the roll cage being good.
Actually best most effective way would be to have them going to the strut towers considering there is more load being put on the shocks, purpose of a rear subframe on a car with IRS it to HOLD driveline/suspension components look it up. And what I was saying was why not have the bars going from the main hoop going to the strut towers, a bar going from strut tower to strut tower, and then an Xbar going from subframe connect to cross bar from strut tower. It's shorter, stiffens both points, and effective in both ways.

Shorter piping = stronger thats just a given so why have the bars going all the way to the back thats an extra 10-12''. Or if you wanna save space just run lateral bars instead of an X. I dont believe in strut tower bars, what would be the difference between a bolt in roll cage and strut tower bars you bolt in...

[S14_Kouki]

Actually best most effective way would be to have them going to the strut towers considering there is more load being put on the shocks, purpose of a rear subframe on a car with IRS it to HOLD driveline/suspension components look it up. And what I was saying was why not have the bars going from the main hoop going to the strut towers, a bar going from strut tower to strut tower, and then an Xbar going from subframe connect to cross bar from strut tower. It's shorter, stiffens both points, and effective in both ways.

Shorter piping = stronger thats just a given so why have the bars going all the way to the back thats an extra 10-12''. Or if you wanna save space just run lateral bars instead of an X. I dont believe in strut tower bars, what would be the difference between a bolt in roll cage and strut tower bars you bolt in...

Idk where you get your info but the reason you build a cage is 1 for safety and 2 a more ridged chassis. The right way to build a roll cage is to build it into the frame. Have u ever noticed a well made race cage there are bars that go thur the fire wall to the front frame rails. Then the main hoops is welded directly to the frame and the rear X bars go to the rear sub frame. Yes it would help to have a strut bar entwined into the cage but that is not 100% proper way to build a cage.

[93superHICAS]

wow that looks exactly what color im painting my car.
but im going to have white interior, white engine bay.
congrats on it tho.

[brndck]

op, can i borrow your friend?

[b R 3 E z Y x Z e N k i E]

Niceee literally very clean lol, propzz man

[Not You]

Idk where you get your info but the reason you build a cage is 1 for safety and 2 a more ridged chassis. The right way to build a roll cage is to build it into the frame. Have u ever noticed a well made race cage there are bars that go thur the fire wall to the front frame rails. Then the main hoops is welded directly to the frame and the rear X bars go to the rear sub frame. Yes it would help to have a strut bar entwined into the cage but that is not 100% proper way to build a cage.

Idk where you get your info but the reason you build a cage is 1 for safety and 2 a more ridged chassis.
Shorter piping = stronger thats just a given so why have the bars going all the way to the back thats an extra 10-12''.
:duh:
That extra 10-12'' = an extra 25° of angle on the bars connecting to your main hoop. Now tell me when your car flips over whats going to have a more likely chance of bending Longer piping with a 45° angle or shorter piping with a 70° angle. More angle also = a more likely chance of shearing.

:duh:
The right way to build a roll cage is to build it into the frame.
And what I was saying was why not have the bars going from the main hoop going to the strut towers, a bar going from strut tower to strut tower, and then an Xbar going from subframe connect to cross bar from strut tower. It's shorter, stiffens both points, and effective in both ways.

:duh:
Yes it would help to have a strut bar entwined into the cage but that is not 100% proper way to build a cage.
I dont believe in strut tower bars, what would be the difference between a bolt in roll cage and strut tower bars you bolt in...

:duh:
Have u ever noticed a well made race cage there are bars that go thur the fire wall to the front frame rails.
Yeah....i know....they also go to the strut towers.......
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/members/battlever-albums-stuff-picture2957-010s.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/members/battlever-albums-stuff-picture2611-019small2.jpg
Oh hey guess what, shock towers are a part of the frame....

[S14_Kouki]

Yeah....i know....they also go to the strut towers.......

Oh hey guess what, shock towers are a part of the frame....

Ok lets go back. The OP has his Xbars going only to the strut towers right?? Now since you are the cage master would you rather have your xbar going to the rear sub frame or the strut towers??? I NEVER said that connecting the bars to the strut towers was bad, I said in other words so you read it right A real basic roll cage goes from your main hoop to your rear frames rails because that is the main structure of the car THE FRAME RAILS. Dude even SCCA roll cage rules say " You must have two bars with no bends going from the main hoop to the rear sub frame". So are you saying SCCA guidelines are wrong??? The strut tower may be part of the frame but nothing is more apart of the frame then itself.:duh::duh::duh:

[Not You]

God your just not getting it, this is not a 57 chevy or a mustang II, it's a UNIBODY car the whole car is the frame. Anything behind the main hoop is the "rear", so the strut towers would be the frame on a unibody car. There are TONS of 240's in SCCA class that just run bars to the strut towers. I'm not saying that going to the rear subframe from the hoop is stupid I'm answering your question with detailed information, fuck.

[g6civcx]

I like how the main hoop diagonal splits the harness bar in half instead of the other way around, as posted by someone above.

Nice job.

[S14_Kouki]

God your just not getting it, this is not a 57 chevy or a mustang II, it's a UNIBODY car the whole car is the frame. Anything behind the main hoop is the "rear", so the strut towers would be the frame on a unibody car. There are TONS of 240's in SCCA class that just run bars to the strut towers. I'm not saying that going to the rear subframe from the hoop is stupid I'm answering your question with detailed information, fuck.

Yes I know it is a UNIBODY car and that just makes it more necessary to have a cage that is welded to the frame to connect all the parts of the frame. I really think we both know what we are talking about I just think we are going around in circles here

[Backintoans13]

Thanks to everyone for the compliments. Im happy with the end results of the cage and the paint. Like i mentioned in my post, i wasnt to fond of the paint at first but have been loving it more and more everytime i see it. It also helps by you ppl liking it also, lets me know that i didnt make a wrong decision in going all purple. Next up will be the conversion and then paint the whole car. I might as well start a build thread on here lol Also....I didnt build this cage to SCCA certifications. If i wanted to i would of. Maybe down the line...WAY later in the future i might go with a full out cage as posted above by "s14 Kouki" and "Not You" but thanks to all :)