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ashtonroche
08-30-2009, 09:53 PM
Alright before i get any hate on this ill say ive been apart of this forum for a while now and have many buddies with 240's and ive fully built rwd sr20 motors just as much as fwd ones. Ive done s13 sr20 swaps in 240's and you name it, ive probably done it. Anyways here is the setup:

92 Nissan Sentra Se-r

Fully built SR20, all work done by me and noone else.

SR20VE block
SR20DE crank
ACL race rod and main bearings
SR20VE oil pump, pickup tube, spacer and aluminum underdrive pulley.
Eagle Rods
CP pistons 8.5:1X 86.5mm bore
Cosworth 1.1mm headgasket
Golden Eagle Honda B16A vtec head studs
JWT S4 cams
All new gaskets and seals
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
Venom 740cc injectors
Calum ecu tuned by me
Z32 fuel filter
RWD tubular t3 topmount manifold rewelded and braced
T3T04 60 trim turbo with the larger .82 turbine housing
Tial 38mm wastegate
Custom made by me 3" downpipe dumping straight down under the car
AEM wideband o2
AEM Truboost boost controller set to 18psi low, 26psi high
Autometer Oil pressure guage
Tial 51mm bov
Z32 maf
3" piping
32X12X4" fmic

Drivetrain

Stock b14 se-r transmission with stock axles
Fidanza 8.8lb flywheel
ACT extreme PP with 6 puck sprung disk

Cooling

Mezier water pump block off and electric water pump
Honda Civic single wide two core aluminum radiator
Flexalite 12" 1250 cfm fan
Custom aluminum crossover pipe

Suspension

Ground control coilovers
GR2 struts
ES bushings all the way around

Weight reduction

No A/C
No P/S
No front or rear bumper support
Nothing in the bay that isnt needed to run the motor
Nothing behind the dash such as all a/c stuff
Nothing behind the front seats
All tar and sound deadning removed
No exhaust or heat sheilds under the car

Car weighs in at 2080 lbs without me in it.

Here is some pics and vids of the car and PS: i daily drive this car every single day in AZ 120 deg summer weather 60 miles round trip to work and so far no problems other than the crappy stock trannies but next week comes a bullet proof P11 LSD trans

Car has gone a best soo far of [email protected] mph on bald slicks with no life on them in 90+ deg heat. Much more to come from this car when it cools down.

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YouTube - Nissan Sentra Turbo runs [email protected] 131.43mph vs mod GSXR 750 bike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N3Y223eIec)

YouTube - 700awhp Lancer Evo vs 500whp Nissan Sentra SE-R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjVN6NQ4TbU)

YouTube - Turbo Sentra Se-r SR20 vs Mustang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jrPPXzXXmk)

Here is a vid of the car on 18psi street tires.

YouTube - Nissan Sentra Se-r build in action Turbo SR20DET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3p9lmmopz8)

Enjoy and any comments appreciated.

Daniel.
08-31-2009, 11:18 AM
That looks really safe in the even of a front end collision. Welcome to awesometown.

zenki.life
08-31-2009, 11:21 AM
i love SE-Rs. pretty cool.

and i doubt any of us would survive in a serious accident with our cars anyways:ddog:

SexPanda
08-31-2009, 11:22 AM
thats a pretty sick b13.

Daniel.
08-31-2009, 11:24 AM
i love SE-Rs. pretty cool.

and i doubt any of us would survive in a serious accident with our cars anyways:ddog:

If I survived I'd at least want to have the full use of what remained of my legs.

If that sentra rear ended someone hard enough, you'd probably have a clutch and flywheel for legs.

Cool car I guess.

ashtonroche
08-31-2009, 12:47 PM
lol yeah what you talking about there is a huge fmic for a bumper support now, haha.

Thats why you dont follow too closely as well or drive retarded.

Thanks for the comments guys. Ill have to put up a couple pics of some of customers and friends cars that are in the works right now. Ill do that a little bit later.

zenki.life
08-31-2009, 01:07 PM
If I survived I'd at least want to have the full use of what remained of my legs.

If that sentra rear ended someone hard enough, you'd probably have a clutch and flywheel for legs.

Cool car I guess.

the beginning of the 6 billion dollar man.... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

ashtonroche
09-01-2009, 07:28 AM
oh come on, you know that would be badass

BustedS13
09-01-2009, 07:40 AM
Attention mall shoppers, the next twenty people to buy an orange smoothie will also receive a complimentary... Nissan Sentra

HyperTek
09-01-2009, 08:44 AM
i dont care how much hp you pack into that car, i still think sentras are ugly/pos. but good job.

drift freaq
09-01-2009, 10:41 AM
i dont care how much hp you pack into that car, i still think sentras are ugly/pos. but good job.

Actually Austin, B13 Sentra's are bad ass little cars.

They were pretty much the 90's FWD equivalent of the Datsun 510. They handle like bats out of hell and are actually quicker than a 240sx.
Yup, Blasphemy.. I said that!

Its one of the few FWD I would consider owning. Its superior to the G20 as it has IRS rear vs the crap they put in the G20. Too bad, G20's look nicer no doubt. Though in terms of all out fun Sentra SER's are kinda dope.

Daniel.
09-01-2009, 11:15 AM
Too bad this one is built for "straight line racing".

HyperTek
09-01-2009, 11:19 AM
yeah i know they got potential and are popular but just judging by its looks come on! its not gonna pull no girlies lol

Daniel.
09-01-2009, 11:39 AM
Because he built this car to drop panties right Austin?

!Zar!
09-01-2009, 11:39 AM
I hate people who hack up front bumpers.

Modded cars attract men.

Nice oem cars attract women.

singlecamslam
09-01-2009, 01:02 PM
That turbo is a little close to the radiator no?

JVD
09-01-2009, 01:12 PM
yeah i know they got potential and are popular but just judging by its looks come on! its not gonna pull no girlies lol
You drive a rattle canned 1990 "sports car"

SexPanda
09-01-2009, 01:26 PM
That turbo is a little close to the radiator no?

Radiator? Who needs one of those? Cooling is so overrated.

ixfxi
09-01-2009, 01:42 PM
Actually Austin, B13 Sentra's are bad ass little cars.

They were pretty much the 90's FWD equivalent of the Datsun 510. They handle like bats out of hell and are actually quicker than a 240sx.
Yup, Blasphemy.. I said that!

Its one of the few FWD I would consider owning. Its superior to the G20 as it has IRS rear vs the crap they put in the G20. Too bad, G20's look nicer no doubt. Though in terms of all out fun Sentra SER's are kinda dope.

I got my ass handed to me in the canyons back in the day by an SE-R, IN THE TURNS. Though, this was only when my car was SOHC and AUTO. It was a white SE-R.. fucker moved.

Ugly cars though, I'de never want to own one.. but to each his own.

!Zar!
09-01-2009, 01:46 PM
Sentra SE-R's are really fast. One of the fastest and best handeling front wheel drive cars for it's time. Can't think of anything much better that japan offered either.

About on par with the nx2000.

Now THAT'S an ugly car.

ashtonroche
09-01-2009, 01:49 PM
with the suspension setup i have it does handle fairly well, i could hold my own in the corners but too much throttle would not be a good thing in the corners. Perhaps a little too much power for actual twisties but with the lag from the big turbo its not that bad at all if i sayed in the 4500-5000 rpm area.

Thanks for the comments guys, Im already happily married so i could care less if the car drops panties, hahaha.

Neways I built if for what it is, i do everything on the car myself and noone touches my car at all as far as working on it. Even stock they will out handle most cars on the road. Dont get me wrong i would love to be rwd just for the fact the aftermarket support for rwd is far above the fwd sr20 crowd. Hell we dont even have someone that makes intake manifolds anymore. And good equal length turbo manifolds your looking at 1200 bucks or more brand new.

Thanks for all the comments guys.

K_style
09-01-2009, 01:55 PM
Whats up ! Ashton! !!

didnt know you were on this forum !!

so that is sentra eric's been talking about ?

looks crazy...

KrazyS13
09-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Not trying to mean, but for that engine having a full rebuild done on it it sure does look like SHIT! Take some time next rebuild and clean/paint the parts, it sure makes things look nicer!

!Zar!
09-01-2009, 01:57 PM
We're bringing it back to 99 style.

It's all about cheating on your wife.

Bill Clinton her without looking back blood.

nismolism
09-01-2009, 03:32 PM
man i was just thinkin of this car earlier....i love the fmic set up a+

Matej
09-01-2009, 05:01 PM
2010 B13 Sentra.

http://www.nissantsuru.com.mx

ashtonroche
09-01-2009, 05:11 PM
Not trying to mean, but for that engine having a full rebuild done on it it sure does look like SHIT! Take some time next rebuild and clean/paint the parts, it sure makes things look nicer!

Actually the bay was repainted it is just really really dusty in the pics. I had a valve cover powdercoated gloss black but the stupid place that did it bead blasted the valve cover and didnt seal it off and i was not about to risk putting it on being the sr valve cover has soo many baffles its basicly impossible to get out all the sand and bead. No thank you.

The valve cover was painted but crappy. The block and everything else is very very spotless and doesnt leak at all. Ill take some better pics later when i give the bay a full detail. I shouldnt have painted it black cuz its soo hard to keep clean. White was soo much better, haha

But i eventually want to paint the body midnight blue so i went with black in the bay.

Again more things to come but im more about performance than looks, so i could care less.

Oh and the comment about the cooling system, Its realistically a bigger capacity radiator than the stock one. The radiator is almost 3" thick with a 1250 cfm flexalite fan. Mezier electric pump with no t-stat. Even in the 120 deg summer days this motor runs very very cool and has not even come close even after punching it several times to 120 mph in a row it has yet to get anywhere near hot. I have yet to see temps over 185 deg.

ashtonroche
09-01-2009, 05:14 PM
Whats up ! Ashton! !!

didnt know you were on this forum !!

so that is sentra eric's been talking about ?

looks crazy...

yep, this is the one, Yet to be beat by anyone here in this lame town, not even several new 600's and even a modded 750 could not hang, not even close.

!Zar!
09-01-2009, 05:18 PM
Yeah, they made them in mexico forever.

!Zar!
09-01-2009, 05:22 PM
yep, this is the one, Yet to be beat by anyone here in this lame town, not even several new 600's and even a modded 750 could not hang, not even close.

Sounds like bad riders.

McCoy
09-01-2009, 05:25 PM
Its superior to the G20 as it has IRS rear vs the crap they put in the G20. Too bad, G20's look nicer no doubt. Though in terms of all out fun Sentra SER's are kinda dope.
Actually the G20 front suspension (double wishbone) is superior to the Sentra/NX (Mac Strut)... The only down side to the G20 that I see is the additional weight, lack of aftermarket suspension parts, and no LSD on most models. The rear suspension doesn't really do that much... the front wheels are doing the turning and putting down the power, the backs just there for the ride.

Sentra SE-R's are really fast. One of the fastest and best handeling front wheel drive cars for it's time. Can't think of anything much better that japan offered either.

About on par with the nx2000.

Now THAT'S an ugly car.
The NX and sentra share the same chassis (b13), motor, tranny, suspension, and several other pieces. Besides the body and some of the interior bits, you can consider them the same car. The NX is great for the trunk space but lacks in cooling up front compared to the sentra.

I've owned a mix of these cars, NX T-top, NX hardtop, and a se-r... all are fun, but the sentra is the one to go with if you are planning on running a turbo. The biggest down side is that the trannies are prone to break, especially when you start putting down alot of power, your limited on how big of a tire you can put under the fenders, and making the front tires do all the work leads to a shortened life... especially when you start running R-compound tires.

with the suspension setup i have it does handle fairly well, i could hold my own in the corners but too much throttle would not be a good thing in the corners. Perhaps a little too much power for actual twisties but with the lag from the big turbo its not that bad at all if i sayed in the 4500-5000 rpm area.
The nismo (clutch-type) LSD is what you need... well, if you care about the car being able to put down any power coming out of the turns. I ran the GTiR T28 at 12psi (dynoed at 250whp) and with hoosiers, the clutch-type lsd, a really big rear swaybar, and a descent suspension the car did wonders on track... to bad it ate through a fresh set of hoosiers in 3 track days!!!

ashtonroche
09-01-2009, 05:26 PM
how is that? a brand new ninja 600 runs [email protected] with a 150 lb rider stock, I trapped a best of 132 on slicks set at 9psi, Street tires at 35 psi is a whole different story on the top end. Practically no rolling resistance.

The bike i raced when i ran 11.1 was a modded new gsxr 750 with a 220 lb rider and he ran [email protected], he only passed me when i was burning the slicks in 1st, 2nd and part of 3rd then i started to catch him, at the end he had me by 1 car length and i trapped almost 4 mph faster. haha He came over and congrated me on a close freakin race, haha he was kinda shocked. The trap speed is good for 10.4 or so with a better 60ft and new slicks that actually grip, lol

!Zar!
09-01-2009, 05:34 PM
Sentra se-r/g20/nx tranny sucks. All the ones I see have or had fifth gear pop out.

McCoy
09-01-2009, 05:43 PM
Sentra se-r/g20/nx tranny sucks. All the ones I see have or had fifth gear pop out.
My current backup DD is a 91 G20 with 5th gear pop-out, lol. It only cost $1200 and has run for the past year with zero issues so I'm not complaining.

The previous 2 NX's and 1 sentra that I owned never had the issue though...

ashtonroche
09-01-2009, 05:43 PM
ive only ever had one tranny get 5th gear popout, on my first se-r i ever had it had 234k miles on the original tranny, never rebuilt, ever, i bought it from the original owner, The car was even auto X'd and ran all the time. It had 285k and still going when i sold that car.

The problem is the gears are thin and the b13/14 trans case is very very poorly designed. The gearstack uses on single bearing on the rear part of the main shaft and the other stack just slides into a slot in the case. This causes flex in the gear stacks separating the gears from each other which will in turn shred the teeth on the gears.

With this setup i have already gone through one trans, notoriously it was 3rd gear as its the thinnest gear of them all and one of my favorite gears to punch it in, haha

Now there is the trans from the 2000-2001 Sentra B15 2.0L if you can find the sport model with the 5 speed LSD trans or the 2000-2002 Infiniti G20 P11 Sport with the 5 speed LSD its actually the best trans out there right now. The P11 has slightly longer gearing which is better for turbo anyways. The gears are 50% thicker and better material, The gearstacks use bearings on each end of each stack. There is very very few people that have damaged the gears on a B15 or P11 trans. And the one i know that did was in the 600whp or 700whp range drag car.

So which is what ill be picking up being i lost my 4th gear on my current trans which sucks even more than losing 3rd gear, 4th actually has traction and you can run through 4th and 5th, not 3rd and skip to 5th, Neways ill be picking up one from mexico here next week for $300 and in the states they usually go for 900-1000.

drift freaq
09-01-2009, 07:29 PM
My current backup DD is a 91 G20 with 5th gear pop-out, lol. It only cost $1200 and has run for the past year with zero issues so I'm not complaining.

The previous 2 NX's and 1 sentra that I owned never had the issue though...

I have you beat there. LOL my current daily driver is a 94 G20 with 88k on it and I only paid $500! LOL Oh and when I bought it(2 months ago) had 86k on it. It will soon have 89k on it.

Oh and for the record, while it gets good mileage and handles decent its still a FWD economy car. I am planning on probably picking up a mid 90's E36 BMW. Rear wheel drive truly is more fun.

ashtonroche
09-02-2009, 09:08 AM
I originally bought this se-r for $500 and it had 110k miles on it, clean as hell, the only thing is the previous owner bottomed out the oil pan and it lost oil pressure and spun every single rod bearing. So i threw a jdm motor in it when i got it for 475.00 shipped for the motor. Done deal.

ixfxi
09-02-2009, 09:52 AM
I am planning on probably picking up a mid 90's E36 BMW. Rear wheel drive truly is more fun.

switching to BMW, eh dave?

yeah... i'de like to see that. i dont think you have the balls to handle those kind of maintenance bills. ;)

ashtonroche
09-02-2009, 10:02 AM
i love the e36's but yeah bmw mainteanance sucks and God forbid if you have to buy stock parts for it. Even getting them cheap is more expensive that the most top of the line stuff for our cars.

Dutchmalmiss
09-02-2009, 10:04 AM
I'm currently rockin an '01 P11 (auto) and LOVIN it. Could use a liiiittle more power, but i'm lovin the mpg as well.

K_style
09-02-2009, 10:13 AM
i love the e36's but yeah bmw mainteanance sucks and God forbid if you have to buy stock parts for it. Even getting them cheap is more expensive that the most top of the line stuff for our cars.


arent you at work Ashton ?

I am ganna tell Eric !! haha j/k

ashtonroche
09-02-2009, 10:20 AM
i am at work, haha. Eric is doing the same thing right now looking at the sick sfwd approved catch can that im gonna be getting.

Look up T1 oil catch can. Now thats a catch can. haha Seriously though, im gonna pick it up soon.

!Zar!
09-02-2009, 10:57 AM
i love the e36's but yeah bmw mainteanance sucks and God forbid if you have to buy stock parts for it. Even getting them cheap is more expensive that the most top of the line stuff for our cars.

Not really.

I managed to be able to afford a bmw at the age of 14.

So I know Dave as well as anyone else with a brain can afford it.

drift freaq
09-02-2009, 10:58 AM
switching to BMW, eh dave?

yeah... i'de like to see that. i dont think you have the balls to handle those kind of maintenance bills. ;)

Actually Mike the drivetrain of the BMW is pretty much bullet proof. The only stuff that usually needs to be redone is suspension parts. So you look for a car with already done suspension parts. Seeing that it is a mid 90's car you can actually find it that way. Aron and I had a whole conversation about this.

S14_Kouki
09-02-2009, 12:05 PM
hey man nice set up but you should clean out the engine/bay

ashtonroche
09-02-2009, 11:24 PM
i do clean up the engine bay but just not in those pics. every time i do detail it i never take new pics of it.

I have an intake manifold on the way and im redoing some of my piping and stuff and rebuilding my turbo and powdercoating the compressor housing.

After all thats done ill probably take some good pics after a good cleaning. it shines up good but gets dirty sooo fast, haha

Smurf_240SX
09-03-2009, 08:36 PM
Love these little cars, Nice setup I have a 200SX with a GTI-R motor in it its pretty quick, and I've never had a problem with 5th gear pop out. I've read that you can fix that problem tho.

napaKAliboog
09-04-2009, 03:03 AM
eheheh I can survive in my new s70 t5 aiming for 2 bars =0P

The Chad
09-04-2009, 06:02 AM
I suppose if looks were really the issue you could always do what my friend did and swap that package into an NX2000.

I like the old "lunch box" styling of the sentra's though. 3 of my friends growing up owned modded B13's and one NX2000 Turbo (which he still owns but rarely drives now) All of which owned my S14 back in 99'.

TheRealSy90
09-04-2009, 12:56 PM
damnit ashton update your thread with pictures of the current happenings at the o'l dirt lot haha. or clean your car again :)

ashtonroche
09-04-2009, 11:03 PM
Lets see, im out of town right now but here is what i got in my lot soo far.

Two AE86 corrollas in process of engine swaps. Lees 4AG is going into Matts coupe and the F20 motor is getting torn down to go to the machine shop and is going into Lee's 86 hatch.

Tylers S2k has an SR20 motor waiting to get test fitted in there and once the mounts are done its quick process after that.

ashtonroche
09-11-2009, 11:56 PM
Ive got a custom intake mani coming and ill be doing some fine tuning and going for around the 550whp mark and should be able to hit that around the 26psi of boost or so.

Ill take some pics of it installed and take some new vids.

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TheRealSy90
09-17-2009, 08:34 PM
yes indeed

sr20sean
09-17-2009, 10:37 PM
some fwd sr20 love!
is this ashtonnx or w/e from sr20forum??

ashtonroche
09-23-2009, 12:45 PM
yes this is ashtonsnissannx from sr20forum and ashtonsser from sr20-forum

That be me.

nosajton
10-11-2009, 04:53 PM
you got a dyno sheet to prove you're making over 500 whp? i had a t3/t04e 60 trim but with the .63 housing.. we pulled the wastegate line and only made 470whp on the dyno and this was on a KA

i'd like to see some numbers but good setup

ashtonroche
10-14-2009, 09:26 AM
you got a dyno sheet to prove you're making over 500 whp? i had a t3/t04e 60 trim but with the .63 housing.. we pulled the wastegate line and only made 470whp on the dyno and this was on a KA

i'd like to see some numbers but good setup

I made 461whp,391wtq on only 24psi with stock intake manifold, stock throttle body and probably a slightly slipping clutch being it wasnt holding at the track top 4th and into 5th. I did the dyno in 4th.

The turbo im using is a 60 trim t3t04 that i just rebuilt myself so now its in perfect shape and with that intake manif and Q45 throttle body gains have been proven with smaller t2 turbos around 35-40whp accross the board.

I have the larger .82 turbine housing on mine and with the mani and 3" open downpipe dumping at the bottom of the bay it seems to flow really really well.

I was already told my turbo is good for 550whp easily maybe close to 600 pushing it to the limit. But 550whp reliably without making too much heat.

I figure around 26-28psi with this new intake mani and i should be at the 550whp mark or darn close to it. Just got all my stuff figured out and did some fine tuning to the maps before i took the broken trans off so my a/f is dead on the money right now not choppy like it was when i dynod.

Man i will say that i do have a P11 trans going on there now and just saving up the cash for a Clutchmasters Twin Disk setup to hold the power reliably to where i dont ever have to worry about it again, haha.

Also converted my clutch to hydraulic using the B15 Sentra clutch setup. Came out very nice. Just saving up the 1200.00 for the clutch. God its expensive. Easily the most expensive single mod on my car. haha

ashtonroche
10-14-2009, 09:28 AM
oh and from 19psi i was at 403whp, to 24 at 461. So almost 60whp from 5psi which is about right. 12hp per psi is about average. But i figure at the same boost levels ill probably be around 450whp at 19psi and over 500 at 24psi. Trust me the gains are there with this manifold as every 240 SR owner should know and as the saying goes.

You will never hear a 240 owner say thier stock intake manifold and throttle body is awesome. hahaha

nosajton
10-15-2009, 12:44 AM
oh and from 19psi i was at 403whp, to 24 at 461. So almost 60whp from 5psi which is about right. 12hp per psi is about average. But i figure at the same boost levels ill probably be around 450whp at 19psi and over 500 at 24psi. Trust me the gains are there with this manifold as every 240 SR owner should know and as the saying goes.

You will never hear a 240 owner say thier stock intake manifold and throttle body is awesome. hahaha

actually i made 720whp / 568wtq @ 40psi on a borg warner s362 and a water intercooler with xcessive intake mani and stock throttle body :)

i really see no reason to upgrade throttle bodies as my car is too fast as is.. spin the shitty 245 / 55 / 16 nitto drag radials in 4th as is

get the twin disc.. it was the best upgrade i did for my drivetrain but be careful its easy to break axles/trannys with the twin disc thats why i upgraded to a z32 tranny/q45 axles on my s14

you should come out to san diego sometime so we can race :)

ashtonroche
10-15-2009, 06:44 AM
yeah those are sick numbers man. Definetly have to hit up san diego sometime. Yeah im still on stock axles. I dont think ill have to worry about breaking them though. I know how to properly preload the drivetrain when launching even on sticky slicks. When preloading properly you really dont have to worry about breaking them. Especially on the streets when all i do is spin anyways, But its fun. haha

Its people that dont preload that have problems due to the initial snap of the drivetrain locking into place. Thats what breaks stuff. I have plenty of experience and seat time that ive mastered it, haha

DataXUnknown
10-16-2009, 12:08 AM
I hate people who hack up front bumpers.

Modded cars attract men.

Nice oem cars attract women.

Very well said.

ashtonroche
10-16-2009, 12:31 AM
Pfff, what are you talking about. 240 owners are the kings of hacking up front bumpers, not to mention king of broken bumpers from drifter wanna be's, hahaha

OOOhhhhh, hope i didnt hit a nerve with that one. LOL.

nosajton
10-16-2009, 12:51 AM
yeah those are sick numbers man. Definetly have to hit up san diego sometime. Yeah im still on stock axles. I dont think ill have to worry about breaking them though. I know how to properly preload the drivetrain when launching even on sticky slicks. When preloading properly you really dont have to worry about breaking them. Especially on the streets when all i do is spin anyways, But its fun. haha

Its people that dont preload that have problems due to the initial snap of the drivetrain locking into place. Thats what breaks stuff. I have plenty of experience and seat time that ive mastered it, haha

you can preload on a clutch that allows slipping but try that on a metallic twin disc, you're going to stall hah

i got to launch with at least 22psi to not bog which really isnt good for the turbo, thats why i bought a 100 shot which will be installing soon to hopefully solve my launching..

my best 60' is 1.54 so hopefully i can get it down a little with the 100 shot

ashtonroche
10-16-2009, 01:02 AM
the twin disks still allow some slip if you hold it right. Again its all feel. Nice 60's btw. Whats your best e/t?

I usually preload at 4500 rpms or so, i may have to go a bit higher with the twin disk. I usually just let the clutch out until i feel the front end lock and dip down a bit and i know everything is good and tight. You dont have to put a lot of pressure on the drivetrain to lock everything up to prevent the initial snap. Probably even slightly letting up the clutch kind of like you would when your driving would lock everything tight instead of putting too much pressure on things.

But again it will take some feel im sure but ill do some practicing preloading before i actually go on the track to get used to where i need the clutch at to keep from stalling and that will allow me to put the pedal to the floor when the yellows fall without launching at the same time my foot is going to the floor.

I usually preload, yellows fall, foot the floor to bounce the rev limiter and down with the ebrake and dump the clutch at the same time it hits the limiter once. Ive got it timed pretty well by how fast my motor revs up. Its all getting used to it. My best 60ft to date is 1.68 on small 22X8X15 m/t slicks but they were new unlike the 7 year old taller slicks.

I think i may be able to get in the low 1.6's with these new 24.5X9X13 m/t's i got. haha. Set them to 8 psi or so and do a smokey 2nd gear burnout now that i will have a clutch to hold it, haha

ashtonroche
10-17-2009, 01:24 AM
Well i spent the day cleaning up my engine bay with a freshly done Valve cover. Intake manifold fully installed with extended injector wiring and tps wiring for the Q45 throttle body so the wiring is nice and tied to the back of the engine block and on the firewall under the manifold making it very nice and clean.

Did Braided hose and Russell fittings for the new crankcase breather system and catch can. Also did Braided hose and -6 AN fittings for the idle air control hose by fitting the cold side pipe iac hose nipple with a fitting and the iac motor with a fitting.

Dont mind the bay. its dirty and thats what happens when you work in a dirt lot. All im waiting to get the car back on the road is to do a swap in a 240 to get the rest of the money for my Clutchmasters Twin Disk and Rear case for the B15 trans that im swapping the B15 1.8 gearstack into to basicly have a P11 trans. Its coming along. I will be rerouting the right-side breather hose and using a 90 deg fitting and running it in front of the injectors by shortening the hose a bit to make it a bit cleaner.

Once done i will detail the bay and take some new pics. Im also making a nice plate for the front to cover the opening from where the support was cut out.

Here are the pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/ashtonroche/DSCN0952.jpg

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g-via
10-17-2009, 02:46 AM
very nice wire tucking, i plan to spend a few days in the winter doing that myself...

is that a dog bone under your car in the last pic?

ashtonroche
10-17-2009, 09:06 AM
lol, no its the bottom part of a foot stool, hahaha I was using it to hold the motor up while i save up for the clutch, haha.

Now im using a spare jack i had.

nosajton
10-17-2009, 12:22 PM
the twin disks still allow some slip if you hold it right. Again its all feel. Nice 60's btw. Whats your best e/t?

I usually preload at 4500 rpms or so, i may have to go a bit higher with the twin disk. I usually just let the clutch out until i feel the front end lock and dip down a bit and i know everything is good and tight. You dont have to put a lot of pressure on the drivetrain to lock everything up to prevent the initial snap. Probably even slightly letting up the clutch kind of like you would when your driving would lock everything tight instead of putting too much pressure on things.

But again it will take some feel im sure but ill do some practicing preloading before i actually go on the track to get used to where i need the clutch at to keep from stalling and that will allow me to put the pedal to the floor when the yellows fall without launching at the same time my foot is going to the floor.

I usually preload, yellows fall, foot the floor to bounce the rev limiter and down with the ebrake and dump the clutch at the same time it hits the limiter once. Ive got it timed pretty well by how fast my motor revs up. Its all getting used to it. My best 60ft to date is 1.68 on small 22X8X15 m/t slicks but they were new unlike the 7 year old taller slicks.

I think i may be able to get in the low 1.6's with these new 24.5X9X13 m/t's i got. haha. Set them to 8 psi or so and do a smokey 2nd gear burnout now that i will have a clutch to hold it, haha

yeah twin discs allow about 1mm of slippage before full grab hah it took me a week to relearn how to drive my car..

anyhow i took it to the track yesterday (1/8'th mile) and did alright.. not my best but i was having traction issues my mickey t 26x10x15's would hook OK but the track was not preparred i almost lost it a few times half way down the track

anyhow best ET was 7.2 @ 102mph with a 1.64 60'

first they told me my launch control was too loud (i shoot fireballs sounds like gunshots) so i turned it off.. then they told me i went too fast with a passenger and they kicked me out... oh well

good build though man if you ever come out this way definately hit me up theres tons of nissan heads out here in diego

ashtonroche
10-17-2009, 03:32 PM
cool man, nice run, Thats exactly what i ran the last time i went out. At least my 1/8 mile time and trap was exactly that. And just like you, i was spinning the slicks all the way until almost the 1/8 mile.

Yeah ill hit you up.

Spring Break '92
10-18-2009, 02:16 AM
I miss my B13. Had a Super Black 92 SE-R with a JDM DE converted to turbo with a complete U13 Bluebird T25 setup that even had the factory intake piping and rubber boost hose. Had the Hyperco gen 2 springs/AGX setup with a Progress adj. rear sway. Best handling car I have ever driven or owned. Don't get me wrong, my S13 handles awesome, but the B13 has mid-corner control like few to no other cars Ive ever driven. Here is the only pic I still have, and this is after I had sold it even.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j19/kooldevices/B13.jpg

ashtonroche
10-18-2009, 02:36 PM
nice, very clean, Yeah some people dont know just how well they handle with very few suspension mods.

I have Ground Controls on GR2's with ES bushings all the way around and just with those simple things and good tires it will corner very well.

nosajton
10-20-2009, 01:52 PM
nice, very clean, Yeah some people dont know just how well they handle with very few suspension mods.

I have Ground Controls on GR2's with ES bushings all the way around and just with those simple things and good tires it will corner very well.


what are you using for engine management? i can retune your stock ecu (mail order) or you can drive it down to san diego and we can dyno tune it..

i also have a launch control option that will make your car build boost on line like mine and shoot fireballs check it out.. i build over 40psi of boost on the line

YouTube - E-Mance Drag S14 KA-T Testing out our new launch control option w/boost gauge vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv1X5A-3HIs)

ashtonroche
10-20-2009, 03:24 PM
believe it or not, im using a Calum Basic ECU, basicly exactly what JWT does but this guy does it a hell of a lot cheaper and i can get new chips any time i want.

But anyways i did make some simple changes to the maps when i first got it running to mainly take care of some partial throttle and low end full throttle fuel issues. Timing maps are pretty good, conservative but good. which is what i need for using it as a daily and 19psi.

Calum also offers a launch control program but he has been swamped lately.

I might take you up on the offer but we will have to see. What would be the charge for the dyno time? with fwd its already hard enough getting off the line with the power im making just rev limiter launching it, I think once i get out on these brand new bigger slicks it will solve alot of the traction issues but still i think with the way i launch it might put me right on the dot.

Oh btw my buddy is using Calum's realtime verions of the ecu which just hooks to a laptop. I did all the tuning to his SR20VE motor and will be doing some more tuning when he does these couple changes here soon.

Hit me up, i might be down to take a trip there when its done.

nosajton
10-21-2009, 12:36 PM
depending on how long you want to be on the dyno i can get you a day or half day for super cheap too cheap to even post

yeah i'm famililar with calum also.. cool guy taught me a lot.

we're also hacking the firmware right now to support 3 and 5 bar map sensors so you dont have to use maf on nissan ecu's should be testing that in the next few months... really cool shit

ashtonroche
10-21-2009, 12:56 PM
definetly interested in the 5 bar map sensor setup on our ecu's That crap would be outstanding. The Z32 maf can only go soo far. Approx 550 is just about maxing it out. haha. I basicly have my entire setup to be right at the limit at the 550whp mark.

Dude pm me with the dyno cost. Very very interested. Yeah and Calum is an awesome guy with a lot of knowledge when it comes to tuning and our nissan ecu's.

He is working on some great stuff. My buddies realtime has his new vvl activation trigger program on it as well. Had an issue with it at first but it was one of his first ecu's out. He said it was a simple connection error in the ecu.

So yeah man hit me up.

napaKAliboog
10-21-2009, 02:43 PM
I had a clean b13 once... built N/A japan bumper and painted black with rare enkei or advans
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/quiffy/DSC00397.jpg
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nosajton
10-21-2009, 05:31 PM
definetly interested in the 5 bar map sensor setup on our ecu's That crap would be outstanding. The Z32 maf can only go soo far. Approx 550 is just about maxing it out. haha. I basicly have my entire setup to be right at the limit at the 550whp mark.

Dude pm me with the dyno cost. Very very interested. Yeah and Calum is an awesome guy with a lot of knowledge when it comes to tuning and our nissan ecu's.

He is working on some great stuff. My buddies realtime has his new vvl activation trigger program on it as well. Had an issue with it at first but it was one of his first ecu's out. He said it was a simple connection error in the ecu.

So yeah man hit me up.


if you're maxing the z32 maf out right now, i have a base map for b13 and s13 that has correct vq tables for ford lightning maf.. that is what i run on my s14 and still havent maxed it out.. at 720whp and whats cool about the lightning maf is they're about $75 brand new

ashtonroche
10-21-2009, 06:09 PM
well i havent looked at voltages yet but from what ive seen 550-575whp is about the max on them.

Id love to go to a map sensor without the cost of an aem unit.