View Full Version : Why does Nismo stuff suck so bad?
USMC101st
08-30-2009, 04:23 PM
Just been comparing a lot of nismo items throughout my years of collecting parts. And it has come to my conclusion that nismo products suck.
For the price of Nismo brand parts, the quality or item isn't great at all.
There are a few things that I look at when comparing performance parts:
1. Quality
2. Technology
3. Creativity
Many Nismo parts lack at least 2 of the three prerequsites.
Example: Take the s13 "NISMO" power brace, it's pretty much overstock s13 parts that "Nismo" weld a few plates on, paint a different color and slap the NISMO brand on it. It lacks the 3 characteristics I've listed above.
Example: Take the Nistune Suspension, it's pretty much KYB shocks with red painted springs.
Example: Nismo strut-bars are pretty much the same shit as the Nissan strut bar painted black. Why couldn't they make it larger or have some type of improvement instead of just color change. Weak.
I can go on and on for all the other Nismo crap.
What do you guys think about Nismo?
I LUV MY S13
08-30-2009, 04:30 PM
i like the thermostat and oil filters haha
drift freaq
08-30-2009, 04:35 PM
Just been comparing a lot of nismo items throughout my years of collecting parts. And it has come to my conclusion that nismo products suck.
For the price of Nismo brand parts, the quality or item isn't great at all.
There are a few things that I look at when comparing performance parts:
1. Quality
2. Technology
3. Creativity
Many Nismo parts lack at least 2 of the three prerequsites.
Example: Take the s13 "NISMO" power brace, it's pretty much overstock s13 parts that "Nismo" weld a few plates on, paint a different color and slap the NISMO brand on it. It lacks the 3 characteristics I've listed above.
Example: Take the Nistune Suspension, it's pretty much KYB shocks with red painted springs.
Example: Nismo strut-bars are pretty much the same shit as the Nissan strut bar painted black. Why couldn't they make it larger or have some type of improvement instead of just color change. Weak.
I can go on and on for all the other Nismo crap.
What do you guys think about Nismo?
Ah I think you are either blind or need eyeglasses. A Nismo Powerbrace is not a stock S13 item. take a look underneath your stock car. Your TC rod mounting brackets are not boxed in . On the Powerbrace they are. you also do not have a rod across them stock. You do on the Powerbrace. You are paying for that.
Now granted if you want to do it yourself you can but for you to say 1: its not quality and 2: its not a upgrade is complete horseshit.
Nistune suspension may not be your bee's knee's. Though it is an upgrade and those are not stock springs painted red they are uprated as well, compared to stock.
Oh and last time I checked ( LOL ) our cars( excepting 350Z's and 370's) did not come with strut bars, so they are again a upgrade.
Now as far as pricing goes some of the stuff is pricey, of course all factory Nissan stuff is not exactly cheap especially for our cars as they get older.
Are there parts out there that might be a better bang for the buck? Possible, though it does not mean Nismo stuff is crap and it is not. Its very good quality stuff for the enthusiast.
I think you are just someone that cannot tell shit from shit when it comes to parts.
genericforumname
08-30-2009, 04:41 PM
yeah not to mention if you know who to look for in a better dealership (someone who knows the overseas parts numbers and can actually order the stuff) you can get modified cylinder heads, better brake parts new transmission gears and all manner of other crazy shit, just take a look at the Japanese Nismo parts list. just because people don't stock it doesn't mean that its not out there.
also, have you ever heard anything bad about the Nismo power brace? 'cause I sure haven't, I know people who have put it on with all factory suspension and still see a difference. and as a matter of course some other companies have copied the design for their own sales, can't remember who though.
Touge Noob S13
08-30-2009, 04:44 PM
Are you serious dude? Have you ever seen a Japanese Nismo catalog? Go find one and look through it.
Edit:Looks like the guy above beat me to the post.
Sileighty_85
08-30-2009, 04:47 PM
I like my nismo power brace, I notice a difference when I installed mine.
Nismo Thermo is an AWESOME upgrade too
I'm also running Nismo Racing bearings in my engine holding up great.
Ive havent been disipointed with Nismo products yet
zenki.life
08-30-2009, 05:25 PM
Where do you base these facts on? just a few observations on a few parts?
wannabdr1ftr
08-30-2009, 05:31 PM
nismo parts dont suck...this thread does. If you dont like them dont buy them easy as that
S13SILVIA|E46M3
08-30-2009, 05:35 PM
Nismo makes some pretty Dope parts. Every single Nismo part I have on my car, I love, they preform top notch, are quality and have lasted me. Everything from my powerbrace to fpr to bushings to slave cylinder. I'm sorry dude, everyone has there own opinions, but you are pretty wrong in my book.
VQMaxFan
08-30-2009, 05:56 PM
My coppermix clutch is bad ASS, now before it the car did have some oe spec nismo clutch in it that was a pos. Stiff as hell and didnt hold crap for power.
soon2bs13
08-30-2009, 06:07 PM
where are you buying these "Nismo" parts?
if you are eBaying, then they are actually called "Gismo" and not an authentic part. ;-)
all show no go
08-30-2009, 06:17 PM
GT LSD pro
If it sucked, would it have been used by many Japan Drift teams?
BustedS13
08-30-2009, 06:21 PM
Nismo products are designed for both performance and drivability.
in general, ricers (read: 240sx "enthusiasts". could be applied to other groups of "enthusiasts" as well) don't bother to consider drivability and only worry about looks. what will get the car the lowest. who cares if i destroy my fenders. who cares if it rides like shit. who cares if the car rattles apart in ten thousand miles. this product has a bigger logo on it. this product comes with more stickers. so on and so forth.
this is why you don't like Nismo products.
the motor mounts do suck, though.
mattro
08-30-2009, 06:24 PM
this thread is sacrilegious. no, ITS BLASPHEMOUS!!!!
SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER!!!!!!!!!!
shunnnn.
the motor mounts do suck, though.
CRAP! i just bought some!
chrisa
08-30-2009, 06:43 PM
I have a Nismo shift knob...its awesome! but i agree with Busted, Nismo is about performance AND drive ability. All in all great stuff though. So far OP is the only one that thinks otherwise.
SR_Vlurs
08-30-2009, 06:44 PM
^^^^ lmao
the few nismo parts I got have been good to me
OP is on crack imo
Brian
08-30-2009, 06:51 PM
I have enjoyed every Nismo part I have ever got.
I LUV MY S13
08-30-2009, 06:54 PM
^^^^ lmao
the few nismo parts I got have been good to me
OP is on crack imo
hes probly never even used nismo parts....
nismo thermostat, short shifter, motor mounts, rear strut bar, and oil cap have been great...
still havent installed my power brace, but ive never herd anything negative about them
More of a stock upgrade the way i see it. Like going from stock 15x6s to r33 or Z wheels.
Cant really expect much from aftermarket dealer parts.
rc1honda
08-30-2009, 06:59 PM
I see what he means on some parts.
The only example where i think the OP has a point is in the LCA's. A buddie of mine bought a set of Nismo lower contraol arms. After taking off the old ones and comparing side by side there was literally no difference aside for the nice gray paint and a nismo sticker. The were not any beefier, the mounts where the same, there was nothing that showed it to be superior to stock. Those LCA's where at least $50 more then the stock ones too.
OptionZero
08-30-2009, 07:00 PM
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airforceone451
08-30-2009, 07:05 PM
Repent your sins, heretic op!
DRFTWHORE
08-30-2009, 07:11 PM
even my NISMO lanyard is dope as hell **NISMO FTW!**
808_s13
08-30-2009, 07:16 PM
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98koukile
08-30-2009, 07:19 PM
Did you expect nistune suspension to be baller ohlins or something? Nismo parts are just stock upgrades or rebranded parts. If there were race spec they wouldn't be offered by the dealer in most cases
kuruptR
08-30-2009, 07:24 PM
Nismo Multiplate clutch? love it.
nismo Power brace = awesome
nismo speedo = cool and rare
nismo control arms almost stock, but they are perfect for me.
!Zar!
08-30-2009, 07:26 PM
Since OP can complain so much, I'd like him to say what they should have done instead.
NISMO is an OEM equivalent modification company for the most part.
Where you receive maximum performance without sacrificing too much ride quality or life of the product.
I've never had complaints about nismo parts. I was happy with my purchases, again and again.
240sxwanted
08-30-2009, 07:36 PM
I dont know wtf the OP is talking about, i got the following nismo products on my z33: exhaust, clutch, flywheel, nismo brembo brake pads, cold air intake. On my s14 i have nismo motor mounts and no problems or anything. i love my nismo stuff
BlitzRPS13
08-30-2009, 08:10 PM
Im happy with all my nismo products so far.
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08-30-2009, 08:19 PM
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ILoveMyRHS13
08-30-2009, 09:26 PM
I like my motor and trans mounts...
ixfxi
08-30-2009, 10:33 PM
nismo products are the worst. i am going to remove them all from my car, now that you remind me.
anyone interested in my parts?
killer240
08-30-2009, 10:39 PM
lol wheres the guy that posted this thread?
he neva replied back
zenki.life
08-31-2009, 12:12 AM
lol wheres the guy that posted this thread?
he neva replied back
Most likely trying to make a new screen name.... to save himself the embarrassment of having to be associated with his original post.:hide:
i mean, really? how did he not expect this thread to end with him looking like a complete fool?
240sxxs
08-31-2009, 12:50 AM
what a different between nismo oilcap and regular oilcap...ABsolutely nothing EL o EL
usdm180sx
08-31-2009, 02:49 AM
nismo stuff sucks coz ur mom makes them
kalypso123
08-31-2009, 04:25 AM
this thread hurts
reflexdb
08-31-2009, 05:39 AM
Just to wrap up this thread with the OP's own example, and how wrong he is, and how legit Nismo parts actually are...
Nismo Power Brace
1) Quality: Can't complain. Brace is pretty beefy. Weld quality is good.
2) Technology: If anyone knows the weakest point in S13/S14 chassis rigidity...it's probably Nissan, the company that designed and built the car. Guaranteed that the Power Brace was designed to increase the strength of that weak point.
3) Creativity: Easiest of the 3. How many aftermarket companies do you see making these braces? None.
garbury
08-31-2009, 06:26 AM
my nismo fpr is dope, definately superior to the other options once i mounted a summit fuel pressure gauge. the mounts kind of suck, since my shifter still shakes like crazy on bumps, anyone else have this problem?
Nismo doesn't suck, but ive gone with alternates based on cost/performance almost every time, ie: short shifter, clutch, clutch pivot/line, suspension bushings, etc. there are usually better alternatives for the money. Though nismo is generally a safe bet for quality
imotion s14
08-31-2009, 07:17 AM
nismo is sweet cuz if you have nismo parts you can put nismo stickers on your car dude.
projectRDM
08-31-2009, 07:39 AM
I really think dude was trolling. He's been quiet ever since posting a thread that would obviously get a lot of blowback. I say let this die, ban the guy for a bit for starting shit, and move on.
Phlip
08-31-2009, 08:17 AM
Nothing more to accomplish here.
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