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Tuck&Poke
04-27-2003, 09:42 AM
my cars are suffering from some kickback oversteer (i think thats the official term) where i take a corner drifiting and the car decides it wants to do it again in the opposite direction after the corner... how can i set up my diff. to keep this from happening?

Bbandit
04-27-2003, 12:07 PM
mine does the same but i used it as an advantage for some feint drifts :p

set the initial torque to 30-35
set the acceleration torque(i forgot what its called) lower

Rennen
04-27-2003, 03:53 PM
I seem to do just fine with the regular 2 way diff. but then again I use the steering wheel, and that seems to smooth everything out. Another thing to do is upshift to get your engine out of boost, that will let the wheels grab for a second, then downshift again.

-Matt

Tuck&Poke
04-27-2003, 06:43 PM
got any other tuning tips to help me drift. the car i mainly use is the 180sx its got about 6 deg of camber up front and 4 in back, 0 toe, i think the springs rates are F 13 R 12 and its dropped all the way both front and rear. forgot the shock ratings

Rennen
04-27-2003, 06:52 PM
You may have gone a little extreme with the camber and all.

My "240SX" fastback type X on GT3 has:
spring rates of 3.2 front and rear
ride height of 104 F and R
shock bound and rebound are 7 F & R
camber is 3 F and 1 R
Toe is -1 F 0 R
stabalizers are set at 3 F 5 R

Brake ballance is set to 9 F 12 R ( I like to use the brakes to initiate the drift)

My gears are at level 28

and of course Stablity control and Traction Control are off

too much camber and lowering the car all the way is what makes yours so twitchy.

The setup above is plenty tail happy and kindly comes back into line after the turn. also I can use the brake pedal like the E brake of a real car to keep a drift longer.

-Matt

Tuck&Poke
04-27-2003, 07:08 PM
oh and i forgot to mention that i use normal tires out back and medium/slick tires up front. my gears are long... i dont know what level cause i do each gear manualy. it is quite twitchy....and i peel out for hundreds of feet from 1-3 gear if i dont modulate the throttle. how does the toe in help the car, and what benefit does a stronger stabilizer in the rear give you? i have much to learn;)

Rennen
04-27-2003, 07:16 PM
I use the Sports tires front and rear. it gives good feedback for my setup.

the best thing to do is to read those descriptions that scroll past in the setup screen, it does a very good job describing the benefits and drawbacks to the adjustments.

The negative toe helps you to countersteer better, as does some negative camber. but too much negative camber and your contact patch up front will be too small and you will understeer.

I use the stabalizers to siffen up the rear of the car more than the front, this means that the front will flex in a turn and keep both tires planted, but the rear will lift the outside tire and slide. This can also be done by changing the spring rates, but I havent messed around with the spring rates of ride hieght to know what works best there.

-Matt

Bbandit
04-27-2003, 09:08 PM
the key for drift setup
get your rear suspension harder
6 kg front, 9 kg rear
toe: front = 0, rear = -1
harder rear stabilizer

Rennen
04-27-2003, 09:35 PM
^^^^^
yeah, listen to him, I have seen his GT3 vids and he is better than me :D

Bbandit: why the negative toe in back, faster turn in?

-Matt

Bbandit
04-28-2003, 02:33 PM
^^haha thanks man :p i still need to practice though..

the negative toe in for the rear is to make the rear end breaks loose easier.. plus.. it will be easier to control the line while drifting.. but then again.. i have a steering wheels... and steering wheels helps a lot! especially if you are doing long drifts

just keep a smooth counter steer and pump the accelerator pedal rapidly... (making sure the the rear tires dont get too much traction)

240sxspeedracer1
04-29-2003, 10:55 AM
hey, did anyone know that they can do a burnout in GT3?

I have went silly a couple times, doing burnouts and donughts
and 180s and shiznig.

Well, for those that don't know how to burnout, it's basically the same as in real life...do you know how to do a burnout in real life?
:D ;)
ok, rev up high (hold the brake all the way and accelerate)
then release so your car starts peeling out, then press the brakes moderately so your car stays in places and enjoy the virtual burnt rubber!!

whateverjames
04-29-2003, 01:57 PM
minime, i would use the same tires all around.
http://systemsilence.com/at.jpg

SR240DET
04-29-2003, 09:23 PM
http://faqs.ign.com//articles/367/367758p1.html

read that.... it helped me alot!.... seriously.. this is the tuning bible for any hardcore GT3 racer...