180sx Kouki Front Lip?

[Type_X]

does anyone know where i can get a front lip for the 180sx kouki bumper?

heres a pics of the stock:
http://sr20.hybrids.jp/andy_c/180sx/images/180sx_00A53.jpg
http://sr20.hybrids.jp/andy_c/180sx/images/180sx_00A57.jpg

heres pics of the lip on the kouki bumper im looking for:
http://sr20.hybrids.jp/andy_c/180sx/images/180sx_00A33.jpg
http://sr20.hybrids.jp/andy_c/180sx/images/180sx_26.jpg

IMO i think it looks amazing with the lip. so if anyone has any info on where to purchase it or what company makes them, it will be alot of help. i know g-grow makes replicas of the kouki bumper but what about the lip?

Thanks in Advance

[SilviaDriver]

i remember reading a thread on FA that shows a replicated bumper of the type X with the lip molded into the bumper. the bumper looks the same juss a bit more agressive..forgot the name tho..it was kinda recent too

[DoriftoSlut]

G-Grow has their front bumper replica molded to look like the front lip is attached. As do most other companies. Cause, lets face it, everyone would liek to have the lip, and when a whole bumper costs less than the lip itself, that's where they make their business.

[HaLo]

The lip can be purchase in the Nismo North America catalog for around 200$ IIRC.

[Grant]

Originally posted by HaLo
The lip can be purchase in the Nismo North America catalog for around 200$ IIRC.

what $200? and why is a bloody fecking oem 97-98 USDM s14 lip over $300 and the Japanese lip over $500??!:mad:

I'd buy it in a heartbeat if its that much.. I'd much rather have a urethane/ABS over fiberglass

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally posted by HaLo
The lip can be purchase in the Nismo North America catalog for around 200$ IIRC.
I thought that was the tiny little lip found on the '91-94 240s.

[HaLo]

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
I thought that was the tiny little lip found on the '91-94 240s.

I don't know.
According to the 2002 Catalog picture, it's as 180sx front lip. Check it out, the part number is: 99996-S13AD2.

[Drifted off road]

that lip is sweet. has anyone tried to put it on the usdm 91-94 bumper. if not ithink ill have to be the guinee pig on that one.

[drift freaq]

Its possible Nismo is selling the lip. They do resell a lot of other peoples products. If you want to know who makes the lip ? Its a GP sports lip .

[kandyflip445]

This (http://www.autoimaging.com/uras/180sx_nplus_lg.jpg) looks like the bumper you're looking for. I kinda just stumbled on it. At autoimaging.com I think it's $330. It's the URAS one just like it says in the pic.:D I think it look REALLY nice.

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by drift freaq
Its possible Nismo is selling the lip. They do resell a lot of other peoples products. If you want to know who makes the lip ? Its a GP sports lip .
WTF si that coming from? GPSPorts? I know a distributor for GP Sports and he has never mentioned that GP Sports makes anything like it, I have never seen it in their ads, on their site, or anything like that. Besides, its an OEM Nissan part. Its Urathane, and according to my sources, costs about $500-$600 new in Japan. If anyone can provide some more concrete evidence, i am going to stick with my knowledge, experience, and connections.:rolleyes:

[drift freaq]

quote dorifto180sx....
[WTF si that coming from? GPSPorts? I know a distributor for GP Sports and he has never mentioned that GP Sports makes anything like it, I have never seen it in their ads, on their site, or anything like that. Besides, its an OEM Nissan part. Its Urathane, and according to my sources, costs about $500-$600 new in Japan. If anyone can provide some more concrete evidence, i am going to stick with my knowledge, experience, and connections.]


dude, get your stuff straight. READ my lips or are you blind? NISMO RESELLS A LOT OF PEOPLES PRODUCTS!!!! Want to know another product NISMO resells ? NISMO SUSPENSION !! They use KYB struts with coilovers mounted and guess what? because you get it through a Nissan dealer it Has a Nissan part number on it.Oh while were at you might as well call a bluff on a lot of Nissan parts Why? Nissan sells Hitachi distributors and Mitsubushi distributors for their cars and they have Nissan parts numbers. hmmm me thinks you better learn the car parts business and the business of rebadging and reselling a little better, before you cry foul on my statements man. I have been around the car parts business probably since you were in diapers and have seen this kind of thing all the time .

. Nissan makes the bumper and yes it is urethane. GP sports makes a lip for it. Go Ask Sean at Auto Imaging about it. Sean and I had a discussion about this lip at the Shine Street meet earlier this year. Guess what he is the American distributor for GP sports. I would not have said anything about it If I did not have my facts .:rolleyes:

P.S. you want to argue go argue with him because he was the one that told me the lip was a GP sports lip and he said in fact it had been real popular in Japan a few years back.

[DoriftoSlut]

And as I said in my response:If anyone can provide some more concrete evidence
tomorrow I will call Sean, Joe, Sam, et al and see what I can find. I am just saying, like I said, what I have heard or been told by said people. I know very well about re-badging and re distribution. It is present in every industry. I never said it didn't happen. Did I? "Get the facts straight" before you assume I don't know about that.

I just questioned (and still do, until tomorrow) the credibility about that. If i find out from the source directly that I am wrong, i have no f_ckin problem admitting that. I just am skeptical given this: GP Sports makes none of their aero parts out of urethane. AKAIK that lip (or an OEM version of that lip distributed by Nissan Motor Co.) is urethane. Is the version in the Nismo catalogue FRP? Also, I have never heard of that lip being called "Nismo". I was always told, read, seen it as OEM Nissan Aero accesory, like the kouki 180sx sideskirts, wing, and rear under spoiler. If GP Sports indeed makes this OEM part i am thinking of, why would they not make any of their other aero pieces from urethane? Surely the cost of making only that lip would not be justified if it were urethane, b/c the tooling would not be appplied to their other parts.

So, again, you can sit there and be more confident or more offensive, but until I make some calls, I am requesting proof or more info to clear up this conjecture. But thanks for looking like an ass trying to "school" me.

[Kookaburraz]

The Nissan Motorsports lip is NOT the lip in the picture...only about a dozen people have ordered it and had something else show up.

[ruf]

GP Sports DOES in fact make an FRP replica of the Nissan kouki lip. It should be around 250, but I think it's kinda pointless to have an FRP lip when you could get a urethane one. The reason no one hears about it is because this piece only makes sense if you ALREADY have OEM kouki front end. These lips have ZERO chance of fitting on 89-94 bumpers. If you make them fit, it will look like ass. If you're going to spend the money on a bumper that it would fit (only fits OEM kouki), you might as well get the OEM urethane lip. Otherwise just get the single piece FRP replica bumpers with it molded in.

PLEASE do not confuse Nissan Motorsports with Nismo (Nissan Motorsports International). They have NOTHING to do with each other except that Nissan Motorsports carries some Nismo parts. The OEM urethane kouki front lip has NOTHING to do with Nismo as it is a stock Nissan piece. It is also nowhere near $200.

[kandyflip445]

Did anyone read my post???? AUTOIMAGING.COM HAS THE WHOLE BUMPER!!!!It's under URAS. IIRC it was goin for $330.

[Type_X]

thanks for the replys people. so where can i see this nismo or nissan catalogue? and if gp sports does make the lip then is a special order cause i dont see it on their site. i also checked out the uras one, looks pretty sweet except its meant for zenki lights and not kouki

[ruf]

The Uras bumper is FRP and I think it's kinda ugly compared to the real thing.

The GP Sports lip is only on the Japanese website. I can get it for you, but it makes NO SENSE unless you have the front bumper already.

The Japanese Nismo catalog is about $30 and WILL NOT have this lip in it because it isn't a Nismo item. It is a Nissan item. The only place you're ever going to see a pic of it is in a kouki 180SX FSM.

There is a Nissan Motorsports catalog (US company) that has some items, but I do not think that they carry this lip.
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GP Sports does not make sense if you want this look. You do not have a kouki bumper and all they offer is a cheaper FRP lip.

Uras does not make sense if you want this look. They do NOT offer a bumper that looks EXACTLY like OEM kouki.

Nismo does not make sense because they don't make/carry the stock pieces. Their parent company, Nissan does.

Nissan Motorsports does not make sense because they do not carry any of these items.

My advice to you is that you either:
1) Buy the OEM urethane bumper and lip (I can source these for you or just provide the part numbers if you want)

2) Buy a one-piece FRP replica bumper with the lip already molded in like G-Grow (dorifto has this)

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by ruf
2) Buy a one-piece FRP replica bumper with the lip already molded in like G-Grow (dorifto has this)

watch out dorifto gets p1ssy if you get wrong

ooh its HOT ROAD VER. II

well doesnt matter, it'll be mine soon :D

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by ruf
2) Buy a one-piece FRP replica bumper with the lip already molded in like G-Grow (dorifto has this)
not to be anal, but AI have a Hotroad bumper. I just want to clarify so that I don't get PMs about G-Grow, which I do know about and have researched, but no firsthand experience.

Also, more importantly:

Thank You ruf!

[ruf]

Bite me. G-Grow or Hot Road, you still paid too much. Shippa what?... Shippa who?... :o

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by ruf
Bite me. G-Grow or Hot Road, you still paid too much. Shippa what?... Shippa who?... :o
[ding ding ding] "Let's keep the gloves above the belt, boys."

Oh and I just explained to you what happened. So I actually made off with a good deal. But I still should have gone through you. Yah yah I know...:rolleyes: :p

[240Dori]

Call and talk to the guys at Autoimaging...they used to carry all of the type x aero parts i think they were by G-grow and they had their own replica of the type x wing...they should be able to hook you up or tell you who can...but imo you should look at all of the other aero they have...they carry some pretty rare brands that look just as good if not better than the type x for about the same price or cheaper cause if you end up having to go through nismo you know they are going to rape you on the price

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by 240Dori
Call and talk to the guys at Autoimaging...they used to carry all of the type x aero parts i think they were by G-grow and they had their own replica of the type x wing...they should be able to hook you up or tell you who can...but imo you should look at all of the other aero they have...they carry some pretty rare brands that look just as good if not better than the type x for about the same price or cheaper cause if you end up having to go through nismo you know they are going to rape you on the price
Um, dude, this really has no relevance. We are discussing OEM urethane lip ONLY, and GP SPorts FRP replica.

Oh, and to be [not so] anal, it is not a "type-x" body kit. Its all kouki 180sx optional aero package. Type-S, Type-G, Type-R, and Type-X all have the same bumper, but only Type-G and -X came with sideskirts, rear valences and wing as part of the package. Alos, it is probable and almost definite that the Type-X came with the urethane Nissan front lip as std. equipment in teh Typ-X package...

Edit: The G-Grow stuff you are looking at is FRP replicas of the OEM pieces, so we are clear.

[ruf]

That was a pretty uninformed post.

1) Taste is subjective. If he likes OEM kouki with lip look, then that's what he wants. Yes it may be more expensive, but that's how the good stuff goes. I'll guarantee you that an OEM bumper/lip will last 5 times longer than any other bumper out there because all of the others are primarily FRP. Me personally? I use FRP because I can afford to replace bumpers I break. In the long run, it would be cheaper to shell out the money for the Japanese OEM Nissan parts.

2) How would you "go through nismo"? Did you read anything that I posted? Nismo does not make the parts. Nor could you deal with Nismo directly. Nissan Motorsports (NOT Nismo) might be able to get you the parts from Nissan Japan. Yes it will be expensive in the short term. See above for the explanation on that.

3) He never mentioned anything about a kouki wing. Autoimaging has never carried a replica kouki front bumper.

4) BTW, "Type-X" doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of model year. I can show you 180SX Type-X that looks just like a stock 1993 240SX.

[Dousan_PG]

240Dori:

http://tiiite.ghettoracer.com/misc/mb/dude-yerowned.jpg



ruf: any word on rear toe links? :D

[240Dori]

sorry if i was uninformed about a few things however for the record:

- the letters IMO mean in my opinion which i am free to have and give to anyone if i so please
-Autoimaging labeled the wing as the TYPE-X replica so im sorry that i dont know about every single model of the 180sx please give me a link to a site that will provide me with this info...and sorry that he wasnt asking about it i thought that he would want to know because i figured he just might want to go for the full conversion later on due to his user name...
-Autoimaging did carry the g-grow frp replacement lip and i was answering his original question on the first post
-as for the nismo thing....fine i again was uninformed, but live and learn right...

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by 240Dori
sorry if i was uninformed about a few things however for the record:

- the letters IMO mean in my opinion which i am free to have and give to anyone if i so please
-Autoimaging labeled the wing as the TYPE-X replica so im sorry that i dont know about every single model of the 180sx please give me a link to a site that will provide me with this info...and sorry that he wasnt asking about it i thought that he would want to know because i figured he just might want to go for the full conversion later on due to his user name...
-Autoimaging did carry the g-grow frp replacement lip and i was answering his original question on the first post
-as for the nismo thing....fine i again was uninformed, but live and learn right...

we were talking about lips and bumpers, not spoilers

ggrow FRP lip? i thought ggrow was just bumper, side skirt and rear valence? i dont recall any G Grow lip...

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by dousan36
we were talking about lips and bumpers, not spoilers

ggrow FRP lip? i thought ggrow was just bumper, side skirt and rear valence? i dont recall any G Grow lip...
Nah, G-Grow only make bumpers (and sideskirts and rear and wing). Yes, they labelled it wrongly. And you said it unknowingly, and I corrected you. Therfore teaching you what was correct. No need to go look for a website, because there probably isn't one readily available in english.

Anyway, I wrote a comprehensive post on here re: the differences in 180sx. You can search under my username, or "Differences in 180sx models".

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by 240Dori
-Autoimaging labeled the wing as the TYPE-X replica so im sorry that i dont know about every single model of the 180sx please give me a link to a site that will provide me with this info...and sorry that he wasnt asking about it i thought that he would want to know because i figured he just might want to go for the full conversion later on due to his user name...

I'll hook you up with the thread:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26960

[240Dori]

thank you for the link and it was very informative...but the one thing i dont understand is that you said that the type x denoted a 180sx from 96.5-98 with an aerokit...however ruf just told me that type-x 180s came without an aero kit?

[Dousan_PG]

aerokit was optional. he says that on one of the pics, but not the top part.

yeah optional

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by 240Dori
thank you for the link and it was very informative...but the one thing i dont understand is that you said that the type x denoted a 180sx from 96.5-98 with an aerokit...however ruf just told me that type-x 180s came without an aero kit?
Yeah the 91-96.5 Type-X looks just like a chuuki USDM/JDM fastback. The aerokit on that model was different and optional (i believe it was optional). That is what Aaron is (or should be) talking about.

Edit: Also, the Kouki(96.5-98) Type-X denotes an SR20DET with aerokit, the Type G also had the full aero package, but SR20DE.
As for pre-96.5 Type-X (probable that '91 was first year of this), I don't have any confirming info on whether or not it had the option aero pkg. standard or not.

[240Dori]

sweet...next time i will make sure that i get my info stright before i post...thanks again

[HyperTek]

bringing this back from the dead.. can someone post the part numbers for the kouki bumper and lip?