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[sr20detconv]

I saw this on another forum. It's a car from France so maybe that's why it dosn't look good. The guy didn't want a sr or a ca because they were unreliable! H22 turbo swap!

The mod list:
H22A1 from Prelude 2.2 VTec 1994
Forged piston CP 87.5mm 9 :1
Forged eagle rods
Sleeved cylinders
Intake manifold inox home made
Cast turbo manifold
Turbocharger Turbo A/R .50 Stage 3 T04E
Wastegate externe
Steel exhaust system
Boost 1.2Bar
SSQV HKS
FMIC XS power
Precision RC injectors 880cc
70mm throttle body
BKR7E-11 spark plugs
AEM fuel rail
fuel pump bosch 044
3.5b fuel pressure
fuel surge
Fidanza flywheel
MAP Motorola 2.5b
Unorthodox crankshaft pulley
MSD ignition
P28 ECU with base map xenocron
Removed balancer
Camshafts et springs skunk2 pro1
Valves et retainers titanium JGE
water injection + methanol AEM
Gros radiateur koyo + 2 ventilateur SPAL
Radia d'huile avec SPAL fans

The engine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/sr20detconv/H22s13.jpg

The car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/sr20detconv/H22s131.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/sr20detconv/H22s132.jpg

[bejota180sx]

ok so.... what trans did he use? s2k? or what??? more info...

[el ocho]

wow that thing is fuckin ugly.

[nissan240syan]

Wow that thing is ugly

[I LUV MY S13]

dumb fuck should of used that money to just rebuild a motor

[zenki.life]

only the French could put their hands on their hips like that and still not be considered gay.

[xpertsnowcarver]

(i might agree...) But I'll bet its faster than your guys' cars. lol

Is that just a huge vinyl stuck on the sides?? He's sporting some fender flares too, lol.

[Enna]

only the French could put their hands on their hips like that and still not be considered gay.

No, its just that he's so gay that we don't want to stare.

[RastaS13]

i just threw up in my mouth

[s13skank]

Very fckn stupid! DOWNGRADE!

[ThatGuy]

Is that some kind of World of Warcraft advertisement on the side?

This car is a bag fail, blended with AIDS.

[second_chanceS14]

cracking v-tech in a 240 lol

[xpertsnowcarver]

lmao!! So is that how you guys feel about the s2k/240 that is in the FS threads??

[Tom25666]

motor looks weird mounted inline like that. it's probably fast but FAIL on principle alone

[z2roll4life7]

WoW what a Down grade

[D.Bo]

ive read about this on another a while back and he used the s2k tranny with the h22 bellhousin something like that

[BRAIN_Z33]

I've never seen more FAIL in my life. :mad:

[D.Bo]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1708/200sxs13h22bvs2000003eu2.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5523/200sxs13h22bvs2000002ya0.jpghttp://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8351/200sxs13h22bvs2000001fs4.jpghttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8281/200sxs13h22bvs2000006hb2.jpg

[Matej]

At least it runs.

[drewmcs13]

I've see that car before possibly one of the dumbest swaps on a 240 ever.

[HyperTek]

when a outrageous idea meets poor execution.

hey at least that car is put together better than some of the cars here lol

[bejota180sx]

why is it fail? cause it has a honda engine? sounds to me like fanboy talking... not so different from having a old corolla with 20b engines and stuff like that... im not saying that i like it... but still it has a decent engine; h22s are good engines, not as good as maybe a K or B swap... the swap was decently done... to each his own...

[beeracing s14]

OMG! soooooooo yucky!

[Sileighty_85]

Besides the Car looking ricey as hell

How much power is it putting down

[D.Bo]

i think it was like 350 ish hp and i guess like 200tq. i saw vids of it driftin it wasnt doin so bad.

[Sileighty_85]

i think it was like 350 ish hp and i guess like 200tq. i saw vids of it driftin it wasnt doin so bad.

EDIT: haha i noticed you werent the OP

But if this is true
OP:
Seriously? the stock SR can handle 500whp STOCK! with just a metal headgasket and and GT2871R you got at least 350whp at a fraction of the cost and everything drops right in and bolts right up (minus Wiring)

I'm all for original shit but if your drifting it why would you put in an engine that (knowingly) basically makes no tourqe?

[D.Bo]

haha i dunno. i found a some random website that said he was make 387hp and 293 tq....dunno if its factual but that all i could find....what would you expect the cars looks ugly

[thisisastickup]

wow. looks like the rice in the engine bay managed to sneak out on to the trunk and the sides.

fuckin' nasty car, why would you bother wasting all that time and money when you could just SR?

[D.Bo]

cause he's french

[240sxxs]

the stock s13 in the background look even better then it

[Ceepo]

Looks like somthing you would find in a :keke:"cracka jack box":keke:

http://api.ning.com/files/gAveihxReGfEufnTZOngsaUfxFYGWeUwQbTe3MANDAVkjJjGZh 0MT4jXEXlPceR5n576r37MbJwZygUUdQ2Vl1f7BYKSFjKS/10018CrackerJackPosters.jpg

p.s. does that tow hook look a little small??? all that added rice looks like it would snap that if you tryed to tow with that...

[fliprayzin240sx]

Gotta give him props for doing something insane like this from the engineering point of view. You cant really mickey mouse this and expect it to work. Considering he got it running is an accomplishment all on its own.

What I dont get is the mentality. How is this swap better than an SR? Considering how much work he had to do, he was better off rebuilding the stock SR in there. Then again, he is in Europe. Finding JDM parts is a feat on its own.

Wait why is it LHD? Thought france is RHD???

[SR_Vlurs]

wow fucking loser waste of money and time ......

[GripIt]

to each there own i too think it would have been alot easier and cost effective to go with a ka or sr but hey :/

[chibo]

EDIT: haha i noticed you werent the OP

But if this is true
OP:
Seriously? the stock SR can handle 500whp STOCK! with just a metal headgasket and and GT2871R you got at least 350whp at a fraction of the cost and everything drops right in and bolts right up (minus Wiring)

I'm all for original shit but if your drifting it why would you put in an engine that (knowingly) basically makes no tourqe?

Apples to oranges.

I think it's a pretty cool swap, someone took the time to do something new. That shit should be commended.

Wait why is it LHD? Thought france is RHD???

France is LHD. Very few countries are actually RHD.

[j6250]

Is that some kind of World of Warcraft advertisement on the side?

This car is a bag fail, blended with AIDS.

Coming from a mod? Commmunity first? If it's like that maybe he shouldn't have shared. Check yourself before you...wait..you already did.

[Sileighty_85]

Are you dumb or something? This car is NA and 2.2L, you can't compare a turbo 2.0 to that. Apples to oranges.

I think it's a pretty cool swap, someone took the time to do something new. That shit should be commended.


France is LHD. Very few countries are actually RHD.

are you dumb?

dude spent thousands of dollars to build an N/A engine to handle boost and make it fit into a RWD platform, (that shit doesnt just drop right in) all he had to do was rebuild an SR slap on a 2871R and get better results then what he got from this abomination

how the fuck can i not compare a 2.2 to a 2.0???
the SR makes more power with less mods than this thing would.
they are both able to withstand boost, yet the SR would make better number than this engine.

Now if it was N/A VS the SR then yeah that apples to oranges

[shishcabobers]

http://theatlbodykitstore.com/catalog/images/96-00%20honda%20civic%20Type%20S14%20conversion.jpg
oh sweet pure radness right thurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[negrosx13]

I give it to the guy, a lot of thought im sure when into planning to pulling this off something weird& crazy.Now my thoughts are why?If you wanted some honda power wouldnt a f20c s2000 motor been easier? sure a lot easier on the eyes when u look under the hood of this thing.

Ka24de-t vs sr20det=apples to oranges

[Row]

makes me want to :barf:

[^fraktal^]

belzebuth drift combat....what the hell is it like a level 47 evil drift sorcerer?

[nismolism]

i would rather have the stock ass 240 in the background!!!

[anton1o]

Looks like hes going to punch the console every time he changes gear...

[negrosx13]

I thought the samething when i looked at the shifter.

[singlecamslam]

Holy crap i just noticed the dude in the background with his Fabuloussssssssss pose.

[KrazyS13]

I'm not a fan of that ugly shit, it's such a terrible idea. Look at that cooling hose setup. Such a waist of money on that swap. Ugh, I hate this car!

And I dont consider myself a Honda "hater"....lol

[Xbroke_kidX]

ummmmm...no thanks

[Homer_Simpson]

I admire the innovation but at the same time I feel sorry for the poor car.

[SexPanda]

brb gonna go punch babies...

ok Im back.

I think I'll throw in a stroked EJ257 with a rotated gt35r assembly in an s13. one day.

[ronmcdon]

Gotta give him props for doing something insane like this from the engineering point of view. You cant really mickey mouse this and expect it to work. Considering he got it running is an accomplishment all on its own.

What I dont get is the mentality. How is this swap better than an SR? Considering how much work he had to do, he was better off rebuilding the stock SR in there. Then again, he is in Europe. Finding JDM parts is a feat on its own.

Wait why is it LHD? Thought france is RHD???

Yeah that's what I was thinking.
Agree or not, it's admirable the setup was able to work.
Although exactly how well it drives, is hard to say without actually being behind the wheel.

In the beginning of the post the owner seems to have had bad exp with SR's.
Could also be he already had a built H22 aleady sitting there.
'Maybe' he was in a position where it was easier/cheaper just to retrofit a built engine, rather than get a new SR & build that.
There's so many potential factors, that its almost meaningless to speculate.
It's not what I would do, but to each and their own.

Yeah, the aesthetic direction is a little comical (Bezlbuth must be French for Beezlebub),
but at least it runs (which is more than I can say for most 240 cheap-skate owners).
workmanship also seems decent for the most part.

The car's also easy to redeem.
Get rid of Bezl-butt and other stickers.
Remove horrid wing & feeble tow hook.
Replace wheels with something respectable.

Lot of the euro-trash have regrettable taste in accessorizing cars.
Click at your own risk
http://www.maxpower.co.uk/

[bejota180sx]

all i see here is a bunch of nissan fanboyz...

[drift freaq]

all i see here is a bunch of nissan fanboyz...

Dude, all they are saying is there are a lot of Nissan engines, that could get the same numbers that guy is getting, with a lot less fabrication work.

While its a clean execution, I have to agree with the rest. I think its a waste of money for the results. If you thinking the people who are responding with common sense are fanboys? well then you are a mental midget for not realizing cost effectiveness.

I am putting in a VQ35HR in my car that stock puts out 306HP with long tube headers its been proven to turn out 337HP at the wheels on a bone stock engine.
The engine costs 2k the mounts I am making are costing with brackets around $300-500 ECU flash another $500 extras and whatnot another 1k-1500. So for roughly an investment of around 5-6k I am getting within 40HP of that guys numbers and a shit load more torque. Which actually translates to quicker acceleration.
For a hell of a lot less fabrication time and money.

If I did what my friends want me to do I would drop in a SR $1500 drop in a bigger turbo $500-800 plus injectors $300 and a maf $50 with a ecu tune $500 and turn out close to his numbers if not his numbers. Again for less money.

Thats what these guys are talking about. It does not mean they are fanboys it means they are using logic. Plain and simple. I suggest you shut the fuck up, calling these guys fanboys? Please stop being pathetic.


Several of them have been around here a lot longer than you and I would hazard to say, know a lot more about putting engines in the cars than you do.

[Dee]

this is definitely......different but each to their own; his car, his money but personally I would never want to cross breed any other motor into my car unless my options were very scarce that even goes for one of the most awesomest engines in the world(2JZGTE).

[bejota180sx]

Dude, all they are saying is there are a lot of Nissan engines, that could get the same numbers that guy is getting, with a lot less fabrication work.

While its a clean execution, I have to agree with the rest. I think its a waste of money for the results. If you thinking the people who are responding with common sense are fanboys? well then you are a mental midget for not realizing cost effectiveness.

I am putting in a VQ35HR in my car that stock puts out 306HP with long tube headers its been proven to turn out 337HP at the wheels on a bone stock engine.
The engine costs 2k the mounts I am making are costing with brackets around $300-500 ECU flash another $500 extras and whatnot another 1k-1500. So for roughly an investment of around 5-6k I am getting within 40HP of that guys numbers and a shit load more torque. Which actually translates to quicker acceleration.
For a hell of a lot less fabrication time and money.

If I did what my friends want me to do I would drop in a SR $1500 drop in a bigger turbo $500-800 plus injectors $300 and a maf $50 with a ecu tune $500 and turn out close to his numbers if not his numbers. Again for less money.

Thats what these guys are talking about. It does not mean they are fanboys it means they are using logic. Plain and simple. I suggest you shut the fuck up, calling these guys fanboys? Please stop being pathetic.


Several of them have been around here a lot longer than you and I would hazard to say, know a lot more about putting engines in the cars than you do.


im very used to engine swaps, i grew up in the PR drag scene... search you'll see what i mean... what i mean with fanboyz is... people just look at that car if its a honda engine AWW THAT'S A FAIL! just because it isnt a nissan engine? wtf? you could have gotten a RB for that much... what if they do not like RB or any fucking nissan engine but love the chassis... if you get into a civic with a b18 swap you know good the engine feels, even with only 200hp max you know it does no way feel like a KA with 200hp... just like a 20b with 300hp isnt the same as a SR with 300hp... numbers are only on paper... engine power and engines are personal choice for the feeling of the engine... revving for example a f20c engine to the 8000rpm(i know its more but you know what i mean) in NO WAY feels the same as revving a SR to those number even if they happen to make the same hp and blah blah blah

i didnt say everyone and im not pointing fingers either... some people just like the feel of a honda engine and they like the feel of our S chassis, so they go for both...

and as i always say TIME DOESNT MEAN EXPERIENCE...

what logic is there to say oh it sucks its a honda engine... i dont say its a good swap but i dont see any real fail in it... and i dont care about the fucking exteriors of car... to each his own...


and i will not start a argument, everyone stated they're opinions so did i, i explained myself... end of it...

[SexPanda]

I'm still all for the LSx in the S chassis.

[VQMaxFan]

cool but it were me and i was trying to be "original" and whatnot id go for the 4G63

[negrosx13]

why 3sgte
http://image.importtuner.com/f/9359775+w750+st0/0706_impp_02z+nissan_silvia_s15+engine.jpg

[5t341tH]

dont hate. his car probably faster than most of yours.
just cuz its a honda motor doesnt mean shit.
vtec is his thing so w/e. and anyway, honda motors last forever.

[zenki.life]

dont hate. his car probably faster than most of yours.
just cuz its a honda motor doesnt mean shit.
vtec is his thing so w/e. and anyway, honda motors last forever.

nissan has its own version of vtec. so whats your point.

[PS13 DRFT]

zenkilife: you're just looking for a fight, he was simply stating that different people prefer different things, no matter how popular they are, or aren't.

[Bubbles]

This weekend my K20 goes in my NISSAN hatch.

[b R 3 E z Y x Z e N k i E]

Lol V-Tec. . . . Sigh

[s13 @ fullboost]

+1 for being different -1 for styling final score = 0

[ronmcdon]

all i see here is a bunch of nissan fanboyz...

Based on this thread alone, that might be true.

However, overall Zilvia has been pretty receptive to non-nissan swaps.
The Honda F-20C, Toyota 2JZ, Chevy LS-1 (I'm tired about hearing ls-1 swaps, but it does have it's merit) would probably more more apt to universal applause.

H22 turbo is redundant when you can do many more similar swaps in a S13 with less headache, CA, RB, VQ, the list goes on.
Personally, I think you pretty much take away the appeal of good N/A Honda engine when you throw in a turbo, but to each and their own.

As I mentioned earlier, this only makes sense if the dude already had a built H22 sitting around.
More free-time and fabrication experience (that $$$) won't hurt either.

[azienbabyboi]

wow intresting... could of at least did a f20 or f22 thats at least rwd motor

[ThatGuy]

Coming from a mod? Commmunity first? If it's like that maybe he shouldn't have shared. Check yourself before you...wait..you already did.

Yeah, I'm not a Mod. You're a fucking idiot. This car still looks like shit.

Have a great day.

[David B S12]

shit is old

[jspeedm]

im very used to engine swaps, i grew up in the PR drag scene... search you'll see what i mean... what i mean with fanboyz is... people just look at that car if its a honda engine AWW THAT'S A FAIL! just because it isnt a nissan engine? wtf? you could have gotten a RB for that much... what if they do not like RB or any fucking nissan engine but love the chassis... if you get into a civic with a b18 swap you know good the engine feels, even with only 200hp max you know it does no way feel like a KA with 200hp... just like a 20b with 300hp isnt the same as a SR with 300hp... numbers are only on paper... engine power and engines are personal choice for the feeling of the engine... revving for example a f20c engine to the 8000rpm(i know its more but you know what i mean) in NO WAY feels the same as revving a SR to those number even if they happen to make the same hp and blah blah blah

i didnt say everyone and im not pointing fingers either... some people just like the feel of a honda engine and they like the feel of our S chassis, so they go for both...

and as i always say TIME DOESNT MEAN EXPERIENCE...

what logic is there to say oh it sucks its a honda engine... i dont say its a good swap but i dont see any real fail in it... and i dont care about the fucking exteriors of car... to each his own...


and i will not start a argument, everyone stated they're opinions so did i, i explained myself... end of it...

well put. some people hate the ka some the sr and some hate anything other than stock. so some are going to hate this.

i wouldn't do it. but you can't knock the guy for either having the skills to do it or the money to have it done.

[wangan_cruiser]

stop hating just because this guy has a lot of money to burn LOL

[EDacIouSX]

how much you guys wanna bet that french s13 has 6 gears, 5 reverse 1 forward.. lol maybe someone will get that joke.

[southerncross]

i was wondering about that as well.

i dont really like this car and its not because of the swap, or any one individual thing he did, its because as a whole it looks like something that would be in the first fast and furious film. it just looks like ass to me.

[blackrms13]

how much you guys wanna bet that french s13 has 6 gears, 5 reverse 1 forward.. lol maybe someone will get that joke.
hey instant FWD!!

lol

[drift_limo]

leave to the french....

lol

wow that ish is ugly ... but i guess w.e on the fabrication...

[prodigy212718]

that car is an abomination... he should be flamed for creating it

[S14_Kouki]

cool for being different. But thats a nissan and no honda engine should go in a nissan.

[chrisa]

^^^FAIL!!! Did you read none of the previous posts? Some one already talked about swaps, LSx, 2J and what not. Shit someone even posted a pic of a 3SGTE in a S chassis. Just cuz its a Honda motor does NOT mean it sucks. But good lord is it ugly!!!

how much you guys wanna bet that french s13 has 6 gears, 5 reverse 1 forward.. lol maybe someone will get that joke.
LOL ohhh i get it.

[goldee240]

its all good his car his money he dose what he wants. something outside of the box.
i do a agree k or b series would have been better

[Bubbles]

how much you guys wanna bet that french s13 has 6 gears, 5 reverse 1 forward.. lol maybe someone will get that joke.


French people as a nation are panzies and are notorious for retreating or pulling back.


In the ballpark?

[bejota180sx]

Based on this thread alone, that might be true.

i wasnt talking about zilvia in general nor EVERYONE who posted in the thread... it just bugs me that some people are so closed minded that they label it a fail just because it might be honda or mitsubishi or whatever related...

and i know that EVERYONE here knows what im talking about...

[unlegendary]

unreliable? are you serious? that's like starting an argument about ka-ts being unreliable. oh well, who cares? we'll never know why he did it, thus our bashing is uncalled for. who knows? maybe he just had it sitting around, but if it's just because the SR is "unreliable" then this guy needs a serious bashing.

i can say this though:
his fitment sucks, his exterior taste sucks, his tower looks funny, and wasted his income in a high taxed country.

[Spring Break '92]

What a second. Aside from the fact that the car is ugly, etc. Did anyone else notice something that I did? Honda motors sans the F20C and K series rotate counter clockwise, facing the pulley side (front) of the engine. Im pretty sure that most if not all RWD engines rotate clockwise, and Nissan RWD engines certainly do. So what did he do to make the H22 work in a RWD car?

[jspeedm]

What a second. Aside from the fact that the car is ugly, etc. Did anyone else notice something that I did? Honda motors sans the F20C and K series rotate counter clockwise, facing the pulley side (front) of the engine. Im pretty sure that most if not all RWD engines rotate clockwise, and Nissan RWD engines certainly do. So what did he do to make the H22 work in a RWD car?

that's what this coment was about
how much you guys wanna bet that french s13 has 6 gears, 5 reverse 1 forward.. lol maybe someone will get that joke.