Anyone here try running C6 Zo6 brakes yet?

[SuicidnS13]

So we've seen STI/EVO brembos, even ferrari brakes on the S chassis. What about the current Zo6 brakes? They can be found brand new complete for 1900.00 front and back.

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They are built by brembo for GM. 6 piston front, 4 piston rears with 14"/13.4" rotors front and back. I wonder how hard it would be to get these to work with out cars? THey have the same bolt pattern as well.

[OptionZero]

what kind of driving are you doing that requires 14 inch rotors? or is this purely to say that you have z06 brakes?

[98s14inaz]

what kind of driving are you doing that requires 14 inch rotors? or is this purely to say that you have z06 brakes?

...the second choice :rofl:

[shmiddy]

may be unessesary.... but they still look sick

[wow-thats-a-cool-car]

I had a c6 corvette....not a z06 but a z51 with the fancy brakes. All I have to say is the brakes on all c6 corvettes are terrible and if you drill the rotor's like mine it makes it even worse. To cut costs chevy used a left side rotor on all 4 corners causing annoying brake squeak every where and the brakes on one side will wear more than the other. I hate corvette brakes...go buy sti or evo brakes.

[adam s]

I would hate to be running brakes on my 240 that say corvette on them.

Douchbaggery ricerness ftmfl

[lazysk8er2]

probly same as any other random upgrade for this car...machine a custom bracket, get some hybrid lines, get wheels that fit and upgrade the master cylinder...oh yeah and seperate ebrake caliper

[SuicidnS13]

I had a c6 corvette....not a z06 but a z51 with the fancy brakes. All I have to say is the brakes on all c6 corvettes are terrible and if you drill the rotor's like mine it makes it even worse. To cut costs chevy used a left side rotor on all 4 corners causing annoying brake squeak every where and the brakes on one side will wear more than the other. I hate corvette brakes...go buy sti or evo brakes.

The brakes on the z51 are a far cry from even being comparable to a zo6's brakes. 2 piston fronts built by gm compared to 6 piston fronts built by brembo is a huge difference in performance and reliability. Also the 25k price difference in cars.

[GSXRJJordan]

Check the "has anyone .. BIG BRAKES" thread, I forgot exactly what it's called. We discussed how cheap the C6 Z06 calipers are from GM. One of the major problems is finding discs that are the correct size and offset (Corvettes arent 5x114, they're 5x4.75" ~ 5x120), most likely have to go custom. It was discussed that with custom 2pc rotors ($1k or so) and these calipers, you would have an awesome braking setup, but could most likely get the same performance out of a cheaper set of Wilwood/Evo/STI brakes.

I'm a Wilwood fan myself - the 'budget racers' choice. 6 piston fronts/4 piston rears for ~$1700 complete.

The brakes on the z51 are a far cry from even being comparable to a zo6's brakes. 2 piston fronts built by gm compared to 6 piston fronts built by brembo is a huge difference in performance and reliability. Also the 25k price difference in cars.

To add to that, the 'left rotor on all 4 corners' refers to the vane - it's true, it's not as efficient as it would be if they were directional, but that doesn't make your brakes squeak lol.

And how does an 18yr old kid say he "had" a c6 vette?

Anyway, I'm involved in the Corvette community also (built my Dad's C5 Z06), and lots of guys complain about the stock brake pads in the Z51's... upgrade to nicer pads and SS lines, and the brakes are marvelous.

[Sonic Motor]

And how does an 18yr old kid say he "had" a c6 vette?

Anyway, I'm involved in the Corvette community also (built my Dad's C5 Z06), and lots of guys complain about the stock brake pads in the Z51's... upgrade to nicer pads and SS lines, and the brakes are marvelous.

That's Devin for ya...

[brndck]

how is it possible that just z32 brakes are not enough for any s-chassis?
i run z brakes front and rear (with z ebrake) with 350z track rotors in front (slotted f &r, with stainless lines, z master cyl, and ate super blue fluid) and it is far more braking capability than is necessary for my car, and probably 99% of s-chassis owners.

if you want bling factor, go get your shit powdercoated something bright and silly.

[OptionZero]

corvette z06 brakes in front only w/ all-season tires all around FTW!

[RastaS13]

it just looks baller. but overkill? hell yeah

[ixfxi]

corvette z06 brakes in front only w/ all-season tires all around FTW!

dont forget to stretch some 205's, for that maximum brakeage brah

[steve shadows]

pfsst 185s or die

[brndck]

Hahahahaha srsly. Schassis owners will spend $5-600 on z brakes but still run the cheapest triangle tires that would lock up with stock brakes. Lol
if you're really concerned about good braking get some sticky tires like neovas or proxes r1r.

[Devil Man]

let us know how fast you wreak after you lock the bajebus out of your front wheels while just taping the brake pedal.

i have z brakes and i can easily lock my brakes. and i have crapy pads on it.

[ryguy]

Hahahahaha srsly. Schassis owners will spend $5-600 on z brakes but still run the cheapest triangle tires that would lock up with stock brakes. Lol

As soon as I saw the picture of the brakes I imagined an S13 locking up all 4 wheels at every stop light.

[GSXRJJordan]

how is it possible that just z32 brakes are not enough for any s-chassis?
i run z brakes front and rear (with z ebrake) with 350z track rotors in front (slotted f &r, with stainless lines, z master cyl, and ate super blue fluid) and it is far more braking capability than is necessary for my car, and probably 99% of s-chassis owners.

if you want bling factor, go get your shit powdercoated something bright and silly.

I locked up my 235/40 Dunlop Z1 StarSpecs all the time with Z brakes and street/light track metallic pads, but now that I'm running large 18's and looking to mount 275/35 R888's up front (335/30 R888 in back), I wouldn't mind a little more stopping power at speed - comparing Z06 braking to my car (which is ~500lbs lighter), the Z06 OWNS when stopping from >80mph.

corvette z06 brakes in front only w/ all-season tires all around FTW!

Haha, I know, right. It's still a valid question though ~

[atutt]

how is it possible that just z32 brakes are not enough for any s-chassis?
i run z brakes front and rear (with z ebrake) with 350z track rotors in front (slotted f &r, with stainless lines, z master cyl, and ate super blue fluid) and it is far more braking capability than is necessary for my car, and probably 99% of s-chassis owners.

if you want bling factor, go get your shit powdercoated something bright and silly.

Did you make a custom bracket for the calipers?
I believe I have the 350z track rotors (Came with the Brembos right?) and I believe they are almost 1.5" bigger in diametre . Same offset and rotor width though.

[brndck]

I locked up my 235/40 Dunlop Z1 StarSpecs all the time with Z brakes and street/light track metallic pads, but now that I'm running large 18's and looking to mount 275/35 R888's up front (335/30 R888 in back), I wouldn't mind a little more stopping power at speed - comparing Z06 braking to my car (which is ~500lbs lighter), the Z06 OWNS when stopping from >80mph.
you are part of the 1% of s-chassis owners who actually NEED a bbk that is more aggressive than z brakes
Did you make a custom bracket for the calipers?
I believe I have the 350z track rotors (Came with the Brembos right?) and I believe they are almost 1.5" bigger in diametre . Same offset and rotor width though.
the brackets are available all over the place. check ebay.

[wow-thats-a-cool-car]

Check the "has anyone .. BIG BRAKES" thread, I forgot exactly what it's called. We discussed how cheap the C6 Z06 calipers are from GM. One of the major problems is finding discs that are the correct size and offset (Corvettes arent 5x114, they're 5x4.75" ~ 5x120), most likely have to go custom. It was discussed that with custom 2pc rotors ($1k or so) and these calipers, you would have an awesome braking setup, but could most likely get the same performance out of a cheaper set of Wilwood/Evo/STI brakes.

I'm a Wilwood fan myself - the 'budget racers' choice. 6 piston fronts/4 piston rears for ~$1700 complete.



To add to that, the 'left rotor on all 4 corners' refers to the vane - it's true, it's not as efficient as it would be if they were directional, but that doesn't make your brakes squeak lol.

And how does an 18yr old kid say he "had" a c6 vette?

Anyway, I'm involved in the Corvette community also (built my Dad's C5 Z06), and lots of guys complain about the stock brake pads in the Z51's... upgrade to nicer pads and SS lines, and the brakes are marvelous.

That's Devin for ya...

Ass holes
you both know you had that car i drove it to the 626 meet like 38388493032 times

[SuicidnS13]

I locked up my 235/40 Dunlop Z1 StarSpecs all the time with Z brakes and street/light track metallic pads, but now that I'm running large 18's and looking to mount 275/35 R888's up front (335/30 R888 in back), I wouldn't mind a little more stopping power at speed - comparing Z06 braking to my car (which is ~500lbs lighter), the Z06 OWNS when stopping from >80mph.



Haha, I know, right. It's still a valid question though ~

I also in the same boat as you. I have a 680whp 2jz setup going into my s14 as we speak. Its running t4/t67 precision billet turbo setup with 275 fronts and 315 rears. My z32 brakes are not enough stopping power for me. But I also refuse to spend 4-6k on a name brand braking system. I would love to upgrade to 6 piston Brembo's all around or something similar to the Zr1's brakes (cost like 8k -www.corvetteforum.com) The C6 Zo6 calipers new with out rotors only cost like $1000.00 for all four on average. Fronts on ebay are only like $600.00. Maybe Ill be the guinea pig for this once the car is up and running again and I have money free to spend towards more stopping power.

[ixfxi]

I also in the same boat as you. I have a 680whp 2jz setup going into my s14 as we speak. Its running t4/t67 precision billet turbo setup with 275 fronts and 315 rears. My z32 brakes are not enough stopping power for me. But I also refuse to spend 4-6k on a name brand braking system. I would love to upgrade to 6 piston Brembo's all around or something similar to the Zr1's brakes (cost like 8k -www.corvetteforum.com) The C6 Zo6 calipers new with out rotors only cost like $1000.00 for all four on average. Fronts on ebay are only like $600.00. Maybe Ill be the guinea pig for this once the car is up and running again and I have money free to spend towards more stopping power.

summary:

- has heavy ass cast iron 2jz-gte (baller)
- runs 275/315 bigass wheel/tire combo (baller)
- attempts to run z32 brakes (which stock, stop 16" wheels and are barely sufficient for the Z turbo)
- cant justify spending money on real big brake kit that is designed for your car (not baller)


like serious, someone already suggested it... wilwood, stoptech, you know.. companies DO exist that make brakes designed to fit your car.


fucking shit, if you can justify putting a 2JZ-GTE in your car you should automatically justify everything else that comes with it.

[Sonic Motor]

Ass holes
you both know you had that car i drove it to the 626 meet like 38388493032 times

Bro, karl posted that. Not me ;)

So yeah, karl is an ass hole, not me

[OptionZero]

summary:

- has heavy ass cast iron 2jz-gte (baller)
- runs 275/315 bigass wheel/tire combo (baller)
- attempts to run z32 brakes (which stock, stop 16" wheels and are barely sufficient for the Z turbo)
- cant justify spending money on real big brake kit that is designed for your car (not baller)


like serious, someone already suggested it... wilwood, stoptech, you know.. companies DO exist that make brakes designed to fit your car.


fucking shit, if you can justify putting a 2JZ-GTE in your car you should automatically justify everything else that comes with it.

dude, don't you know going fast in a straight line is WAY cooler than
um

stopping in short distances consistently

u been outta the game man

[Witness]

This shop in the bay offer them, viper conversion kits too. couldnt hurt to get some advice/tips from them but im not sure if there still around since they never reply to emails.

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[ThatGuy]

ManjiParts is Luke, a.k.a. blu808 here on Zilvia. Check the Fabrication Thread, he's talked about the Viper kits a few times.

I just sent him a text message. He'll probably chime in when he gets a chance.

[GSXRJJordan]

summary:

- has heavy ass cast iron 2jz-gte (baller)
- runs 275/315 bigass wheel/tire combo (baller)
- attempts to run z32 brakes (which stock, stop 16" wheels and are barely sufficient for the Z turbo)
- cant justify spending money on real big brake kit that is designed for your car (not baller)

like serious, someone already suggested it... wilwood, stoptech, you know.. companies DO exist that make brakes designed to fit your car.

fucking shit, if you can justify putting a 2JZ-GTE in your car you should automatically justify everything else that comes with it.

Haha, point is, S14 with a 2JZ (not much heavier than a KA) still weighs less than the Z32 the Z-brakes were designed to stop. It's not completely ridiculous to expect Z-brakes to perform on that car... my only gripe is that even with aggressive, expensive pads (Endless), the car doesn't pull down 'from speed' like a real supercar.

Bro, karl posted that. Not me ;)

So yeah, karl is an ass hole, not me

This Karl/JXN posting crap needs to be regulated lol.

ManjiParts is Luke, a.k.a. blu808 here on Zilvia. Check the Fabrication Thread, he's talked about the Viper kits a few times.

I just sent him a text message. He'll probably chime in when he gets a chance.

I was just about to say ~ Luke is all over that Viper brake conversion, 'cause the Viper brakes are even cheaper than the Vette ones, and the discs are 5x114 if I'm not mistaken. Luke's a lil busy as of late with a 'time sensitive project' - if you're really dying for a set, shoot him a PM or try to catch him on AIM.

[brndck]

vipers are 6lug

[GSXRJJordan]

vipers are 6lug

Ah... I don't remember which rotors Luke used then :/

[SuicidnS13]

The good news is rotors can be easily made and redrilled to fit. And about all the baller comments on parts choices. The funny thing is building a 2jz swap is about the same costs as a quality rb25 swap. Trust me Ive done those too. Brakes by wilwood are definately inexpensive. ArizonaZcar has a very affordable swap but IMO doesnt look the part. Zo6 brakes definately look the part. Plus the pad selection for Zo6 brakes is much better than most aftermarket calipers. And the jdm calipers, none of them are proven and all are over priced and over-hyped (Dumb ballers). Replacing a Zo6 or Viper Caliper is also much cheaper than replacing a Project Mu, Stoptech or even an off the shelf brembo caliper.

[JRas]

doesn't seem worth it

I have STi brakes, enough for me

[ixfxi]

Haha, point is, S14 with a 2JZ (not much heavier than a KA) still weighs less than the Z32 the Z-brakes were designed to stop. It's not completely ridiculous to expect Z-brakes to perform on that car... my only gripe is that even with aggressive, expensive pads (Endless), the car doesn't pull down 'from speed' like a real supercar.

post some factual vehicle weight and i'll agree. in the meantime, any car with an RB or JZ is *easily* going to weigh over 3000lbs. and anyone baller enough to install an RB or JZ, should instantly plan to buy a badassed wheel/tire/brake setup BEFORE they even finish installing their motor.

[Otto347]

anyone baller enough to install an RB or JZ, should instantly plan to buy a badassed wheel/tire/brake setup BEFORE they even finish installing their motor.:werd:............

[drftwerks]

post some factual vehicle weight and i'll agree. in the meantime, any car with an RB or JZ is *easily* going to weigh over 3000lbs. and anyone baller enough to install an RB or JZ, should instantly plan to buy a badassed wheel/tire/brake setup BEFORE they even finish installing their motor.

what brakes would you suggest?

the 05-08 zo6 brake setup is pretty cost effective, if you have time to play with rotors and the mounting for the calipers.

i would say an actual 6 piston f and 4 piston r setup from aftermarket would be about double the price.

i dont see this as being "not worth it"

[GSXRJJordan]

post some factual vehicle weight and i'll agree. in the meantime, any car with an RB or JZ is *easily* going to weigh over 3000lbs. and anyone baller enough to install an RB or JZ, should instantly plan to buy a badassed wheel/tire/brake setup BEFORE they even finish installing their motor.

My S14 was ~2500lbs with almost a full tank at it's lightest (small wheels, SR20, single bucket seat, no sound deadening) without me in it. Z brakes and metallic pads out braked my 235/40/17 tires. Since then I've swapped to a RB25, 18x10/18x12 wheels, and am putting a full interior in with sound deadening... weighing everything as I put it in, I should be around 2800lbs, which means less than 3000lbs with me in it.

That's still lighter than every 'supercar' you see running around on the street... z06, viper, Ferrari, Lambo, etc. Anyway, I agree that this is not a bad way to go, but after talking to the boys at Impulse Engineering (where I picked up my R888 take-offs), a 13" 6pot/13" 4pot Wilwood setups the better deal - and pad choices are very good/cheap for that caliper.

[MrMcgarrett]

After some research it seems the C6 Z06 and the G37S/370Z uses the same size rotor (355mmx32mm).

The G37S rotors are pretty cheap:

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Make a custom bracket and you should be good to go.

I don't know how the rears would work out.
The C6 Z06 rear rotors are 340mmx26mm.
The G37S rears are 350mmx20mm.

[ixfxi]

the happy meal has already been created, said and done....

go with a bbk (wilwood, stoptech, roto....agh nevermind). so, you spend a bit of coin on the front setup, but you've got that all set and ready to go. the rears, run Z32... tons of people run Z32 rears with good results, ebrake and all.

i beat the fuck out of my 300ZX 30mm alum setup to the point where the brakes were making absurd noise, they really started to squeel. This was with 245/45/16x8 setup. Braking was fine until you really started to do some downhill racing (not advised). I think I was KA back then. For sure once I got my SR (even in stock form) I managed to out-drive the brakes. This was with axxis pads. Yes, you COULD go with a more aggressive pad.. no shame in that. But still, I prefer having a better quality setup.. so wilwood or stoptech.