Dent in Rear Quarter Panel - What Would You Do?

[dogg4217]

.......car has been sold

[GSXRJJordan]

The problems is that the dent's high enough on the quarterpanel to mess with overfender fitment. I think you should have it fixed by a paintless dent repair guy, shouldn't be too tough or expensive.

If you really want it to look perfect, and body shop will have to do it and repaint the panel.

[dogg4217]

The problems is that the dent's high enough on the quarterpanel to mess with overfender fitment. I think you should have it fixed by a paintless dent repair guy, shouldn't be too tough or expensive.

If you really want it to look perfect, and body shop will have to do it and repaint the panel.

I had a paintless dent guy look at it and use a suction cup to try and pull it out. He can't get behind it with a tool to pop it out. Doing over fenders I'll have to trim the fender wheels higher and when I do this I'll have access behind the panel to pop the dent out and then weld the lip back together. Just straight enough to get the over fender to fit smooth.

[GSXRJJordan]

I had a paintless dent guy look at it and use a suction cup to try and pull it out. He can't get behind it with a tool to pop it out. Doing over fenders I'll have to trim the fender wheels higher and when I do this I'll have access behind the panel to pop the dent out and then weld the lip back together. Just straight enough to get the over fender to fit smooth.

Trust me, I've done tonnnnns of overfender jobs, on all S-chassis. Cutting the fender for overfender installation will not give you enough room to bang that out unless you completely remove your inner QP also - then you'd have to make a whole other inner fender to replace it. You'll still probably notice it where the overfender meets the QP.

[fromxtor]

I vote
http://www.eastwood.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/p22689.jpg

[dogg4217]

Trust me, I've done tonnnnns of overfender jobs, on all S-chassis. Cutting the fender for overfender installation will not give you enough room to bang that out unless you completely remove your inner QP also - then you'd have to make a whole other inner fender to replace it. You'll still probably notice it where the overfender meets the QP.

I'll think of something I guess. I kinda leaned widebody because I like the wider stance on a s13. Up in the air right now just undecided. That Jeep in the background I know exactly what I want to do to it and building up parts for when I build it bigger. The s13 I have the motor taken care of. I've swapped in a sr20. I wanna concentrate on the exterior and I know I want new bumpers and sideskirts. Just undecided about the quarter. If I do overs in the rear I need to replace to a wider fender in the front. I have 5lug conversion in the garage.

Just slowly piling parts up.

[azndoc]

I think a 50 mm chargespeed one or style should cover up the spot, but you should try to pop it out as much as possible.

gl

[dogg4217]

I vote
http://www.eastwood.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/p22689.jpg

Link to this tool?

[dogg4217]

I think a 50 mm chargespeed one or style should cover up the spot, but you should try to pop it out as much as possible.

gl

If thats the overs that actually cover the whole rear quarter and rivets are barely noticeably then those are the ones I was thinking about. They are around $500 a set but to me well worth it. I'm not a fan off getting the cheaper ones and having all the rivets showing and the overs not fitting near the panel gaps.

[Sileighty_85]

I think a 50 mm chargespeed one or style should cover up the spot, but you should try to pop it out as much as possible.

gl
x2 if you pull off interior pannesl I THINK you should be able to acess that spot and try a SOFT rubber mallet NOT BALL PEEN
But maybe not been a long time since i looked in that area

[dogg4217]

x2 if you pull off interior pannesl I THINK you should be able to acess that spot and try a SOFT rubber mallet NOT BALL PEEN
But maybe not been a long time since i looked in that area

Can't get to it because of the inner fender well, I've tried and then I cried hahahaa

[Rayne]

Link to this tool?

Stud Welders & Accessories - Eastwood Company (http://www.eastwood.com/catalog/product/view/id/2105/s/pro-stinger-stud-welder-kit-w-9finger-claw-puller/category/122/)

[dogg4217]

Stud Welders & Accessories - Eastwood Company (http://www.eastwood.com/catalog/product/view/id/2105/s/pro-stinger-stud-welder-kit-w-9finger-claw-puller/category/122/)
$500 for a pro. dent puller is a little steep for me. I'd rather spend in overs or put towards the bill for the whole car to be dent free and resprayed.

[2_slow_40]

I vote
http://www.eastwood.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/p22689.jpg

i second that, pull that bizznatch out as much as u can.
good luck

[fromxtor]

^^ I wasnt saying you need to buy a stud welder, I was suggesting that would do the trick.

[boost86]

I'm having a similar problem, except on a car I'm probably going to buy. It has a quarter panel dent as seen in the pictures. Could it be covered with widebody or popped/bondoed? I was thinking about slapping on some overfenders but I'm not sure if it'll work due to where the dent is.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/canoftomatoes/13644325.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/canoftomatoes/dfbc2576.jpg

[93nismo]

just put ur hand behind it with a glove on and pop that shit out with some man power. somebody kicked mine in like that and thats how i fixed it. but if the paints creased itl crack and chip and rust... possibly

[Matej]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m19/dogg4217/101_1284.jpg
That looks like it should pop out easily. Just inflate a basketball behind it.

[93nismo]

That looks like it should pop out easily. Just inflate a basketball behind it.


^thats a good fucking idea... ive never even considered that lol

[Greddy323]

buy over fenders

[Slammed180]

Is the door ajar in the last pic?
Nothing seems to line up.

[ryguy]

1. Heat up the dent with a heat gun.

2. Spray an upside down can of air duster on the dent.

3. Enjoy your fixed dent.

[wings_s13]

the over fenders will not cover it. it will cover a good part of it but u will still see it and they wont fit right. now there are a few ways to do this the right way would be to take it to a body shop, there going to hve to slid hamer the finder and bondo over it then paint and primer, worse case they have to cut out the peice and relpace it, but dosent look that bad. the cheeper way would be to take the wheel off and every thing else get to it, get a big rubber mallet go to town,(start in the middle of the dent, one good hit there and should fix but dont be a pussy u got to hit it! lol) then buy over fenders to cover then take to a body shop that dose fiberglass well and have them molded the fenders in. thos would prob be your best bets. I grew up in a auto body shop, and have bee doing it for many years, if u have any questions feel free to pm me. thanks and good luck

[drift freaq]

lets get real here. Your quarter panel has one dent. Its not major enough to warrant doing overfenders, unless you are absolutely in love with overfenders and its been your dream to put them on. Fix the damn dent! Shit my body guy would fix that for around $200.
With paint probably about $350-400.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

fix it. you could probably kick most of it out by yourself.

[93nismo]

my dent was in the same place... remotly. just put a damn glove on and push it out... its alot easier then youd think. the metals probably warped a little now. but unless the paint cracks ur gunna be fine. and if the paint does decide to crack just use some touch up paint. not rocet science:]

[Slammed180]

just put ur hand behind it with a glove on and pop that shit out with some man power. somebody kicked mine in like that and thats how i fixed it. but if the paints creased itl crack and chip and rust... possibly

my dent was in the same place... remotly. just put a damn glove on and push it out... its alot easier then youd think. the metals probably warped a little now. but unless the paint cracks ur gunna be fine. and if the paint does decide to crack just use some touch up paint. not rocet science:]

any other pointers?

[93nismo]

pretty straight forward. if your interiors still in your gunna have to take the paneling off inside the hatch to reach it. its a tight fit but your hand should make it

[DHall243]

Try a plunger first it works for some bigger dent then do the Keyboard Cleaner Trick

[93nismo]

Try a plunger first it works for some bigger dent then do the Keyboard Cleaner Trick

i tried a plunger on mine and it dident work, but mine was a bit bigger then his.

dosent hurt to try:)

[Slammed180]

pretty straight forward. if your interiors still in your gunna have to take the paneling off inside the hatch to reach it. its a tight fit but your hand should make it

What type of glove should I use?

[93nismo]

any made of cloth. unless you dont care about your hand getting cut up. its just a little more comfortable i think. if youve got 1 use it. if you dont a rag would do the same thing. its just a tight fit so your hand might get all cut up.

[dogg4217]

Is the door ajar in the last pic?
Nothing seems to line up.

The door is ajar. The car is very straight with only 79,000 original miles and one big dent :keke:

I'll try to get behind it to see what I can do. I thought that you couldn't get to the dent because the inner fender metal was in the way. Basically I thought it was fender metal and then another piece of sheet metal after that.

I'm assuming most people on this board are anti-overfenders? I'm talking the $400 set from Chargespeed that covers the entire rear quarter and most of the rivets are with the body line or hidden

Charge Speed 50mm Wide Rear Fender (Pair) S13 240SX Hatchback 89-94 (http://www.dm-spec.com/chsp50wirefe.html)

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-90362619970623_2066_269416285

[ixfxi]

yeah.................................. i would suggest visiting a body shop.

[drift freaq]

The door is ajar. The car is very straight with only 79,000 original miles and one big dent :keke:

snip happens.....

I'm assuming most people on this board are anti-overfenders? I'm talking the $400 set from Chargespeed that covers the entire rear quarter and most of the rivets are with the body line or hidden

Charge Speed 50mm Wide Rear Fender (Pair) S13 240SX Hatchback 89-94 (http://www.dm-spec.com/chsp50wirefe.html)

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-90362619970623_2066_269416285
Its not a question of being anti over fender. Its a question of you overreacting to the amount of damage.

Two reasons and only two reasons for overfenders. 1. so much damage its the easiest way to get away from it.

2. You are putting on extremely low offset and extremely wide wheels.

Oh and on the second point, If you are putting on overfenders then you need big wheels. Big wheels equal lots of cash. If you're willing to go there? Sure.

Oh and your car has 79k on it. Fuck putting overfenders on it. By your own description it sounds to clean to abuse like that. Keep it as close to stock body as possible. Maybe some factory aero and suspension and wheels.

Overfenders and whatnot are for higher mileage chassis's that have seen action already. You are pretty much driving a virgin chassis wise. Don't kill it.

[mastadon]

you can definitely get behind that dent if you remove your hatch area interior pieces. I think the basketball idea would be brilliant. Stuff a fully deflated ball in there and then start pumping.

[93nismo]

Overfenders and whatnot are for higher mileage chassis's that have seen action already. You are pretty much driving a virgin chassis wise. Don't kill it.


i agree. just pop the son of a bitch out if you can. and if you cant take it to a shop. itl be worth the money. overfenders look retarded to me anyway.

[dogg4217]

Its not a question of being anti over fender. Its a question of you overreacting to the amount of damage.

Two reasons and only two reasons for overfenders. 1. so much damage its the easiest way to get away from it.

2. You are putting on extremely low offset and extremely wide wheels.

Oh and on the second point, If you are putting on overfenders then you need big wheels. Big wheels equal lots of cash. If you're willing to go there? Sure.

Oh and your car has 79k on it. Fuck putting overfenders on it. By your own description it sounds to clean to abuse like that. Keep it as close to stock body as possible. Maybe some factory aero and suspension and wheels.

Overfenders and whatnot are for higher mileage chassis's that have seen action already. You are pretty much driving a virgin chassis wise. Don't kill it.

Def. not over reacting just throwing out ideas to others to see opinions. I've been on the fence about what I want to do because of exactly what you said. It's a low mileage s13 so why add fenders and cut up quarters. I like a s13 that has widebody that's been done correctly, but I also like clean s13's like what you described.

you can definitely get behind that dent if you remove your hatch area interior pieces. I think the basketball idea would be brilliant. Stuff a fully deflated ball in there and then start pumping.

I'll try that this weekend. I thought I couldn't get behind it, but I haven't been wanting to take the interior out since I've mounted the s14 seats in the back, just have to break down and remove everything out to fix the dent.

[wings_s13]

WTF really your going to try all these lets just say interesting ways u just need to take it to a body shop. these way will prob make your problem worse and give u more truble in the end. hell stop being cheep and wasting time and take it to a body shop lol
good luck

[93nismo]

WTF really your going to try all these lets just say interesting ways u just need to take it to a body shop. these way will prob make your problem worse and give u more truble in the end. hell stop being cheep and wasting time and take it to a body shop lol
good luck


hey, fucker. shut the hell up.:trogdor:

theres no need for you to waste money if you can pop the dent out yourself. if you cant however then id take it to a shop. like i said, the metals probably warped a little but it shouldent be that noticeable. thats not even that bad of a dent... if you want before and after pictures of my car pm me and ill send you some

edit: id try to push it out before you inflate a ball behind it

[hOngsterr]

i say.

cut your QP then find another hatch shell
that's dent less and weld that shit on
lol

[wings_s13]

"hey, fucker. shut the hell up.:trogdor:

theres no need for you to waste money if you can pop the dent out yourself. if you cant however then id take it to a shop. like i said, the metals probably warped a little but it shouldent be that noticeable. thats not even that bad of a dent... if you want before and after pictures of my car pm me and ill send you some

edit: id try to push it out before you inflate a ball behind it"


Look yes he can push it out, true. but when he dose it will prob not comeout all the way and pop right back in, now if he pushes it out far enough to have it stay then he has pushed it too far and will have messed up the body line. now if he dose not care about if it is right or not then fine but i was just tring to help the guy do it the right way not half assed.
been doing body work all my life so to 93nismo step off,:fawk: if u want to give people sub par advice then thats u, i am just trying to let people know the right way to do things. so please know what your talking about before u speak.:duh: thanks. And to op good luck i hope u find what your looking for.

[brokeAs240sx]

I had a paintless dent guy look at it and use a suction cup to try and pull it out. He can't get behind it with a tool to pop it out. Doing over fenders I'll have to trim the fender wheels higher and when I do this I'll have access behind the panel to pop the dent out and then weld the lip back together. Just straight enough to get the over fender to fit smooth.

Remove your rear interior (both rear seat area & trunk area) & get the opinion of another paintless dent removal guy. Most of that area is reachable. There's actually inflation tools that Eastwood sells (I used one before for a smaller dent from pulling the fenders), but they are typically for smaller dents - you can still try, though.

[93nismo]

Look yes he can push it out, true. but when he dose it will prob not comeout all the way and pop right back in, now if he pushes it out far enough to have it stay then he has pushed it too far and will have messed up the body line. now if he dose not care about if it is right or not then fine but i was just tring to help the guy do it the right way not half assed.
been doing body work all my life so to 93nismo step off,:fawk: if u want to give people sub par advice then thats u, i am just trying to let people know the right way to do things. so please know what your talking about before u speak.:duh: thanks. And to op good luck i hope u find what your looking for.


i respect the fact that youve got experiance in the industry, i truely do. however speaking from experiance with a dent very similer to this and doing it the way i did work just fine. and i dident have to pay anybody to do it. it dident mess up the body lines at all. but i suppose youve got more experiance then me so i suppose now its up to him isent it? no hard feeling tho:kiss:

[Gjohnson7]

Dude, that dent really isn't bad at all.

This is what I have to deal with.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh40/Gjohnson7771/DSC02718.jpg

[HyperTek]

^try sticking a jack between the fender and inner wall inside and expand it to push out some of the dent.

do it yourself
someone hit my 13 and i had to do it myself
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/DSC00552.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/rear.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/Image3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/wingless.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/rearbreak.jpg
get some dent pullers, the weld on stud one is your best bet.

wasnt great but it got the job done. experts will say i did it crappy, others will say its ok. lol. Its just a 240sx anyways.

[pornosquadz]

you think yours is bad check mines out

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/tiktak9/s13dent1.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/tiktak9/s13dent.jpg

on the rear 1/4 passenger side, its gonna be more of a bitch to get mines pulled out. btw its a 91' coupe

[heavenboundkevin]

^^ seeing stuff like "hyperteks" that is so inspirational.

I had a dent in my quarter, and i popped it out with a crowbar, and its bondo-able. i gots a coupe though, idk if you can get to that area on a hatch, i dont see why not though.

Op, post up with whatever you get done!

[drift_limo]

damm ya'll be hitting then light poles!!!

[zylvia213]

I vote
http://www.eastwood.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/p22689.jpg


^^^ get one they are worth it.... you can get one for as cheap as $150 and they can go up to $500 for a good one. First off does your dirver door close good? How did you get this dent? Aslong as you didnt get hit from behind and made this dent then dont worry about it, just get yourself one of these stud welders and pop it out. Honestly no need for over fenders. Honestly its not a hard fix. Im not sure if there is access through the inside of the quarter panel to pop it out as much as possible.. but if not this stud welder will do the job just find. Just weld a few studs on there pull dent out as much as possible, then some body filler block smooth, spot prime, spray a guide coat and block again and your done. Too bad your not located here in cali, wouldnt mind helping out a zilvian. Good luck bro.... honestly just fix it no need for over fenders.

[pornosquadz]

damm ya'll be hitting then light poles!!!

i hit one of the aluminun side guards. stock brake components= NO GO

[dogg4217]

^^^ get one they are worth it.... you can get one for as cheap as $150 and they can go up to $500 for a good one. First off does your dirver door close good? How did you get this dent? Aslong as you didnt get hit from behind and made this dent then dont worry about it, just get yourself one of these stud welders and pop it out. Honestly no need for over fenders. Honestly its not a hard fix. Im not sure if there is access through the inside of the quarter panel to pop it out as much as possible.. but if not this stud welder will do the job just find. Just weld a few studs on there pull dent out as much as possible, then some body filler block smooth, spot prime, spray a guide coat and block again and your done. Too bad your not located here in cali, wouldnt mind helping out a zilvian. Good luck bro.... honestly just fix it no need for over fenders.
The door was ajar when I took the pic. I saved the car from going to the junk yard. Friend knew I liked 240's and his neighbors where hauling the car to the scrap yard. I got it for free and hauled it home. The dent was already there. Car only had 78,000 miles when I got it so I couldn't just let it see the shredder. Pulled the KA out swapped it over to 5spd and put a SR in it. Been driving it ever since.