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droptoprx-7
07-21-2009, 03:05 PM
please close

duffman1278
07-21-2009, 03:19 PM
Check for leaky injectors, although this doesn't sound like the problem directly.

Let the car run without the fuse until it dies out, then try to start the car with the fuse back on.

Did it start before you let it sit, with the mods you mentioned?

droptoprx-7
07-21-2009, 03:42 PM
Check for leaky injectors, although this doesn't sound like the problem directly.

Let the car run without the fuse until it dies out, then try to start the car with the fuse back on.

Did it start before you let it sit, with the mods you mentioned?



i will check the injectors

and i will, i was kind os scared to run it without the fuse because i thought it might damage something but i will try it


and yes i ran this set up for a while


thank you sir

holemilk00
07-21-2009, 04:12 PM
Does the fuel pump run like its suppose to when you have the fuse in and you try to start it? It should run for a few seconds after you stop turning the starter and the car hasn't started, its priming the system. If not then start looking there, check the voltage at the fuse with the key in the on position with a multimeter. Then check at the fuel pump, it sounds to me like maybe one of the wires back by the pump has come lose and is grounding out with the fuse in.

droptoprx-7
07-21-2009, 04:18 PM
Does the fuel pump run like its suppose to when you have the fuse in and you try to start it? It should run for a few seconds after you stop turning the starter and the car hasn't started, its priming the system. If not then start looking there, check the voltage at the fuse with the key in the on position with a multimeter. Then check at the fuel pump, it sounds to me like maybe one of the wires back by the pump has come lose and is grounding out with the fuse in.


yes the fuse pump primes for a few seconds and then cuts off. ill check the voltage

thank you

edit
fuel pump

white .4
yellow/blue 12.3
yellow .8

droptoprx-7
07-22-2009, 01:52 PM
*update*
I started the car with the fuel pump fuse out and let it run for about 2 minutes, cut it off let it run for another minute. and it still wont start with the fuse in. should i keep doing this or will i mess something up? thanks

TTrx7Pete
07-22-2009, 08:24 PM
The car ran for 2 minutes without the fuel pump running? Sounds weird.

droptoprx-7
07-24-2009, 07:49 PM
The car ran for 2 minutes without the fuel pump running? Sounds weird.
yes it is :wtf:

TTrx7Pete
07-24-2009, 07:53 PM
Did you check your fuel pump wiring? voltage? continuity? It sounds like you are dumping fuel. Wet plugs, running without the pump, just sounds like you have some fuel issues. I'd check the entire fuel system from the pump to the injectors. Don't forget to look at your fuel filter.

weshole
07-24-2009, 11:00 PM
It sounds like a strange request and I wouldn't say it if it hadn't happened to me exactly as you stated on a different car. Pull the vacum line to your fuel pressure regulator and see if fuel comes out of there. I had a car do the EXACT same thing as you said and i was dumbfounding me along with 2 mechanics and by chance we pulled the vacum line and fuel SHOT out of the line when pump was hooked back up. Ive seen hundreds of leaky regulators and are not uncommon on domestic vehicle but NEVER like this. It was sooooo flooded because of this. Suprisingly, you couldnt see or smell an overabundance of fuel and thats why we didnt catch it right away. It only takes a second to check so maybe try that.

droptoprx-7
07-26-2009, 04:44 PM
thank both of you and i will be trying all of that

i tried the fpr hose and some fuel came out but i dont think it was as bad as what you were explaining and i dont think that was the prob.





so i pulled out my spark plugs i put a few days ago and.....

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/droptoprx7/1102.jpg


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/droptoprx7/1103-1.jpg



the smell like oil so i think the VC gasket might be leaking some oil maybe? im probably gonna pull it off 2maro

droptoprx-7
07-29-2009, 02:50 PM
****update****

found out today that it wont run if i unclip the injectors so tomorrow im going to look further into that.... this weather here has been sucking lately



guessing maybe the voltage is off to the injectors or they might be leaking

Flybert
07-29-2009, 04:30 PM
Wire it up using your own relay and ditch the stock wiring. The stock wiring is probably trash already. Just use the ECU ground trigger to turn on the relay. You won't get low FP issues during boost as well.

Also make sure your injector O-rings aren't leaking. FPR vacuum hose shouldn't have fuel shooting out. Replace the FPR as well.

painengaged
07-31-2009, 12:33 AM
ur car shouldnt start at all with ur fuel pump fuse pulled and if i=some act of god happens and it does start it wouldnt stay running for 2 min. u have a problem with ur wiring. there must be a short in some wires thats giving ur pump power with the fuse out. if it was me id start with the wiring to ur fuel pump. hope i could help

josephin510
07-31-2009, 12:47 AM
Old car just rewire the fuel pump im pretty sure the wires are exsposed remote and power are touching so its grounding out after you put the fuse in.

weshole
08-02-2009, 09:06 PM
I will say this. If ANY fuel was present, it was too much. By looking at the spark plugs, it looks pig rich too me. The fpr may not be all of the problem but, I would say that it isnt helping your cause.

droptoprx-7
08-19-2009, 10:40 AM
i havent been up here or messed with the car for a few weeks i have really gotten pissed with the car and im about to take it to a shop if i cant figure this out. anyways im about to go out and look at the wiring.


thanks guys


edit. any advice on how to rewire the fuel pump would be much appreciated, i suck at wiring..... thanks back to searching

droptoprx-7
08-24-2009, 08:24 AM
just ordered a dw fuel pump relay wiring kit. hope that works thanks flybert

droptoprx-7
09-11-2009, 12:25 PM
did the fuel relay rewireing kit and its doing the same thing. fuck i give up