View Full Version : restore and swap ls1/ls2 240sx or get a Nismo 370Z
sweeper240
07-20-2009, 07:45 PM
Suppose I wanted to fully restore my 1993 240sx fastback
except put a ls1 or ls2 engine in ($6,000)
redo the suspension with something good ($3,000 - $6,000)
fix everything else.
Would I be close in assuming the work would be around 2 - 3 weeks for a shop? ($10,000 tuning shop work)
So Suppose I spent about $25,000
Do you think that I'd be better off just getting a new Nismo 370Z?
I understand that the price differential is quite large 25,000/40,0000
Which do you think is the better decision?
ThatGuy
07-20-2009, 07:52 PM
I think making up your own mind is the best decision, EVER.
blueshark123
07-20-2009, 07:54 PM
learn to work on ur own car
deolio
07-20-2009, 07:55 PM
depends what you plan to do. if you're going to track it, 240 for sure. if it's just a look-cool-go-fast car, then 370z.
drift freaq
07-20-2009, 07:59 PM
it all depends on what you really want. I would echo thatguy with making your own decision on this. Honestly you do not need to spend 25k to build a dope ass LS powered 240 in my opinion.
Again you have to figure this out.
zenki.life
07-20-2009, 08:02 PM
i wish i woulda saved my money and gotten a 350z instead of blow my money on a 240 lol
goddabob
07-20-2009, 08:09 PM
If you dont plan on doing most of that work yourself, I would just get the 370z.
Plus I saw the 370z at an autox coarse. Amazing
Nismoknightska-t
07-20-2009, 08:20 PM
ls2 swap is going to cost you close to 10k doing it right.. thats just parts..
ixfxi
07-20-2009, 08:21 PM
Suppose I wanted to fully restore my 1993 240sx fastback
except put a ls1 or ls2 engine in ($6,000)
redo the suspension with something good ($3,000 - $6,000)
fix everything else.
Would I be close in assuming the work would be around 2 - 3 weeks for a shop? ($10,000 tuning shop work)
So Suppose I spent about $25,000
Do you think that I'd be better off just getting a new Nismo 370Z?
I understand that the price differential is quite large 25,000/40,0000
Which do you think is the better decision?
hey 1 post........ let me give you a piece of advice
nothing you attempt to do with your s13 will work upon first attempt.
what i mean is this....... line by line i will help you, based on all my years and years of experience. lets begin......
Suppose I wanted to fully restore my 1993 240sx fastback
assuming your car is worth restoring, you wont know till you start taking paint off... essentially revealing problem areas that could have been improperly repaired. but lets not stick here, next...
except put a ls1 or ls2 engine in ($6,000)
find proper motor, hope it is in A-OK condition. wait weeks if not months for a qualified shop to do the proper job... okay, next...
redo the suspension with something good ($3,000 - $6,000)
great, you spend an assload on coilovers and forgot that there are things like bushings and numerous other suspension components that need to be properly addressed... but next (edit, dont forget the s13 suspension is dated compared to the latest and greatest Z suspension, arms are so light weight and better)
fix everything else.
these 3 little words are it. THIS RIGHT HERE can be like 5 years and 20,000 dollars worth of work. your glass, your wiring, your paint, your electrical components such as relays and other problem areas.... degraded interior, etc etc etc... but next (edit, dont forget about all the fucking parts that are special order or no longer available, junk yard diving trips, old car means old car problems)
Would I be close in assuming the work would be around 2 - 3 weeks for a shop? ($10,000 tuning shop work)
2-3 weeks WAIT. good shops will take months to do the above work, not weeks. anyone who does it quicker will just try to take your money and give you shitty quality of work, or just miraculously has nothing to do at the moment.. which means they suck. but next......
So Suppose I spent about $25,000
and guess what, 25k and you've got a 1993 240sx that still has a bunch of shit that needs to be addressed before it will please most people. you'll still have interior rattles, things that dont work, parts that need to be replaced that you cant find........ etc etc etc.... but next..........
Do you think that I'd be better off just getting a new Nismo 370Z?
you have a new car with much smaller headache, instant satisfaction
but you have ugly headlights and now need to pay me 2-3k to make them look nice. real nice.
cheers
mike / clearcorners (call me when you get your 370z and thank me for my advice)
clark
07-20-2009, 08:21 PM
get an evo
ixfxi
07-20-2009, 08:23 PM
btw... ive done all my own work and spent around 40k and my car still doesnt run. but people already jizz over it... so im pretty confident that when it works i'll be happy.
InlineS13
07-20-2009, 08:28 PM
350zeeezz and word. yes
tricky_ab
07-20-2009, 09:16 PM
If you can afford it, get the new car...
FRpilot
07-20-2009, 09:43 PM
Do you think that I'd be better off just getting a new Nismo 370Z?
you have a new car with much smaller headache, instant satisfaction
but you have ugly headlights and now need to pay me 2-3k to make them look nice. real nice.
cheers
mike / clearcorners (call me when you get your 370z and thank me for my advice)
:rofl: :coolugh:
VROOOM
07-20-2009, 10:14 PM
get the 370z, its new, you have a warranty and it will actually be worth something when you want to sell it.
sweeper240
07-21-2009, 01:11 AM
hey 1 post........ let me give you a piece of advice
nothing you attempt to do with your s13 will work upon first attempt.
what i mean is this....... line by line i will help you, based on all my years and years of experience. lets begin......
Suppose I wanted to fully restore my 1993 240sx fastback
assuming your car is worth restoring, you wont know till you start taking paint off... essentially revealing problem areas that could have been improperly repaired. but lets not stick here, next...
except put a ls1 or ls2 engine in ($6,000)
find proper motor, hope it is in A-OK condition. wait weeks if not months for a qualified shop to do the proper job... okay, next...
redo the suspension with something good ($3,000 - $6,000)
great, you spend an assload on coilovers and forgot that there are things like bushings and numerous other suspension components that need to be properly addressed... but next (edit, dont forget the s13 suspension is dated compared to the latest and greatest Z suspension, arms are so light weight and better)
fix everything else.
these 3 little words are it. THIS RIGHT HERE can be like 5 years and 20,000 dollars worth of work. your glass, your wiring, your paint, your electrical components such as relays and other problem areas.... degraded interior, etc etc etc... but next (edit, dont forget about all the fucking parts that are special order or no longer available, junk yard diving trips, old car means old car problems)
Would I be close in assuming the work would be around 2 - 3 weeks for a shop? ($10,000 tuning shop work)
2-3 weeks WAIT. good shops will take months to do the above work, not weeks. anyone who does it quicker will just try to take your money and give you shitty quality of work, or just miraculously has nothing to do at the moment.. which means they suck. but next......
So Suppose I spent about $25,000
and guess what, 25k and you've got a 1993 240sx that still has a bunch of shit that needs to be addressed before it will please most people. you'll still have interior rattles, things that dont work, parts that need to be replaced that you cant find........ etc etc etc.... but next..........
Do you think that I'd be better off just getting a new Nismo 370Z?
you have a new car with much smaller headache, instant satisfaction
but you have ugly headlights and now need to pay me 2-3k to make them look nice. real nice.
cheers
mike / clearcorners (call me when you get your 370z and thank me for my advice)
I really appreciate your perspective it is very close to my own, I do understand that I over simplified what is required to do a 240sx. And by 3 weeks I meant 120+ hours straight. I know that it would not be complete in 3 weeks exactly and that things wouldn't be complete all at once. Sure it could take months.
My 1993 240sx is one of the cleanest completely stock 240s in... most of the USA
About the 370z light fix, I am highly interested in seeing what you have in mind for that. I checked ClearCorners out but I am guessing what you are alluding to is still in pre-production.
Thanks,
Paul
wikun
07-22-2009, 01:55 PM
370z's are girl friendly.
nothix
07-22-2009, 03:13 PM
get a z unless you want a project/track car
flip3d
07-22-2009, 03:55 PM
Nismo 350Z
driftsilvias13
07-22-2009, 05:25 PM
There is no way I would spend 25k in a s13. Get the 350z. Great car for the money. Heck you can get used 03s for dirt cheap. I sold my super clean blue 03 for only 12k!!
BustedS13
07-22-2009, 05:52 PM
uh.
buy a c5 z06. no swap. ten times cooler than either car you mentioned.
nismo z's are retarded.
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