View Full Version : Estimate Price on '91 240?
ijust1agame
07-18-2009, 05:51 PM
Is $4,000 a good deal for a '91 Hatchback 240SX.
How much is a good price? There are no pics at the moment, but will update as soon as I get pictures in.
Here are some specs:
91 Nissan 240sx Hatchback
5speed Manual
KA24de Dohc motor with 99k miles
Manual Window, no Cruise, no powerdoor locks
Engine runs strong and no leaks present.
New P/S hose, window rollup regulators
color is Dark Purple Metalic with black interior
All around Vspeed kit
17" Rota D2 with -25 offset
Leo-kun
07-18-2009, 05:53 PM
Clean title? No rust? Straight frame?
IMO 4000 is too much.
ijust1agame
07-18-2009, 06:05 PM
Clean title, no rust, straight frame.
rednissan180
07-18-2009, 06:07 PM
toooo much :down:
ijust1agame
07-18-2009, 06:09 PM
I thought it was a reasonable since it is about 99xxx miles on it, but I guess not..
How much would be a reasonable/good price?
adam s
07-18-2009, 06:13 PM
I wouldnt go over $3500, thats just me.
I got mine for $600 haha, sometimes you get lucky.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll123/moonshadowmetallic/Mycar2.jpg
InlineS13
07-18-2009, 06:14 PM
it's not too much if it's a nice car. If it's a typical 240, too much. under 100k is pretty low miles nowadays. None of that "99k on motor, 225k on body" crap.
S13 hatch
07-18-2009, 06:25 PM
a little cheaper maybe.. i bought my 92 s13 for 4000 n that was off a dealer n was perfect condition with a stock ka
ijust1agame
07-18-2009, 06:28 PM
It's original with 99xxx miles on the chasis and engine.
Here are some quick pictures I got:
http://i32.tinypic.com/i5aqdt.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/293yjxk.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/33agxs2.jpg
adam s
07-18-2009, 06:36 PM
Snap that shit up!
17" Rota D2 with +25 offset
Fixed
kevmeistah21
07-18-2009, 06:38 PM
i got a 91 coupe with an sr and silvia front end for 4k
ijust1agame
07-18-2009, 06:52 PM
What is a good and reasonable price ? I need suggestions..
S13 hatch
07-18-2009, 07:19 PM
3000 if its perfect condition other than that maybe 2500
adam s
07-18-2009, 07:23 PM
What is a good and reasonable price ? I need suggestions..
91 Hatch with 100k lets say, 2500
Add wheels, 500
Paint 1500
Kit+bodywork 500
These being very very conservative prices you now have $5000
$4000 is a good deal, maybe talk him down a bit.
If its really as clean as it looks and has been maintained, I'd have no problem paying $3500 for that car.
zenki.life
07-19-2009, 01:07 AM
91 Hatch with 100k lets say, 2500
Add wheels, 500
Paint 1500
Kit+bodywork 500
These being very very conservative prices you now have $5000
$4000 is a good deal, maybe talk him down a bit.
If its really as clean as it looks and has been maintained, I'd have no problem paying $3500 for that car.
^^^dont post if you dont know wtf you are talking about. and if youd pay that much your seriously retarded.
to the OP. no 4k is not a good price. what you have to realize is that if the car looks like that, the previous owner knew what he had.....and thus more than likely beat on it. i would have been happier if is was bone stock. people sell their 240s for that much to fanboys with no prior experience. at least your doing research. personally for that car i would not pay over 3k.
however why dont you just find a stock 240, and just slowly learn how to work on your car and modify it from the ground up with what you want rather than having to settle for what the previous owner "made". (ew rotas) thats the best option i think
I LUV MY S13
07-19-2009, 01:12 AM
yea 3000 max
18 year old car.
i wouldn't pay more than $1000.
ijust1agame
07-19-2009, 01:26 AM
So I assume 3000-3200 max?
zenki.life
07-19-2009, 01:36 AM
So I assume 3000-3200 max?
nope....$2k-$3k
END OF STORY
holybushoffire
07-19-2009, 02:09 AM
18 year old car.
i wouldn't pay more than $1000.
Awesome logic
Stock R32 GTR's go for about 10k in good condition. So according to your logic stated up there ^, you wouldn't pay more than 1k for an '91 GTR with less than 100k miles?
ON TOPIC: 4k is a little too much considering, which has already been said, the previous owner knows what 240's are popular for. Which probably means he's raced and/or drifted the car. The reason for the kit and paint could even possibly due to an accident the car has previously been in. Try getting a CARFAX before you go any further in the buying process.
adam s
07-19-2009, 02:23 AM
^^^dont post if you dont know wtf you are talking about. and if youd pay that much your seriously retarded.
Seems like ive pressed a button haha.
On a side note I do know what I'm talking about, I flip 240s for a living, although I wouldnt buy a car thats in the very top of the price bracket anyway. I do know, however, that here in TX at least, that car would be sold at 4K in less than a day.
Maybe TX is just full of fanbois? who knows...
zenki.life
07-19-2009, 02:30 AM
Seems like ive pressed a button haha.
On a side note I do know what I'm talking about, I flip 240s for a living, although I wouldnt buy a car thats in the very top of the price bracket anyway. I do know, however, that here in TX at least, that car would be sold at 4K in less than a day.
Maybe TX is just full of fanbois? who knows...
hmm. well i guess its just because my state is not oil rich. up in cali 240s are not worth anywhere near that much(thats not to say people dont try) and how do you even make profit if you "flip 240s" when you buy them for such a high price hmmmm??
khearts1314
07-19-2009, 07:36 AM
Hey if it is the 240 you have your heart set on then go for it. But it is a car and the price is always negotiable so don't walk up to the guy with 4k and hand it over. But it def looks clean. Does he have any service records and how many owners. This guy might have had it for 6 months bought it cheap off somebody that was clueless, put paint and wheels on it from a hook up and is just trying to make a fast buck. But whatever you choose make sure you are satisfied. Good luck
nothix
07-19-2009, 09:43 AM
too high
2.5k
adam s
07-19-2009, 01:17 PM
hmm. well i guess its just because my state is not oil rich. up in cali 240s are not worth anywhere near that much(thats not to say people dont try) and how do you even make profit if you "flip 240s" when you buy them for such a high price hmmmm??
I'm not saying I would buy that car to flip. Haha, I only buy beat ones lol.
I would never even consider buying that car to make a profit haha, its already cleaned up and taken care of (from what pictures can tell us... which is next to nothing haha). And like I said earlier its at the very top of the price bracket for cars like that down here, so even if I did buy it, there's a next to nothing chance of me being able to sell it for anything more than that lol.
Anyways, since I'm assuming the car is in cali, carfax it, give it the once over, and pay what these cali dudes are telling you to, I'd put money on the fact that Zenki.life is right on this one.
Awesome logic
Stock R32 GTR's go for about 10k in good condition. So according to your logic stated up there ^, you wouldn't pay more than 1k for an '91 GTR with less than 100k miles?
ON TOPIC: 4k is a little too much considering, which has already been said, the previous owner knows what 240's are popular for. Which probably means he's raced and/or drifted the car. The reason for the kit and paint could even possibly due to an accident the car has previously been in. Try getting a CARFAX before you go any further in the buying process.
yep, you're right. i wouldn't even pay that much.
ijust1agame
07-19-2009, 01:35 PM
What is a good price for this one..? Thanks.
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/267873-fs-91-240sx-se-5-spd-clean.html
What is a good price for this one..? Thanks.
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/267873-fs-91-240sx-se-5-spd-clean.html
in the east coast, if you would have bought that from a non-car enthusiasts, or an old person, it would be less than $1000.
but it's in cali, and the drift tax is high as hell, so expect to pay over $2000.
InlineS13
07-19-2009, 01:56 PM
Just cause 240 people are broke doesn't mean that these cars aren't worth anything. It may be an old car, but a nice car is a nice car. Nice cars are worth money.
turbotofu
07-19-2009, 02:11 PM
yea in cali, if its below 2grand you either lucked out big time, or its a heap, or its an automatic.
At least from all the ones I've seen.
zenki.life
07-19-2009, 03:15 PM
yea in cali, if its below 2grand you either lucked out big time, or its a heap, or its an automatic.
At least from all the ones I've seen.
untrue. the proverbial "drift tax" does apply however if you walk into the deal knowing what you are talking about and start to point out things wrong with it or the potential things wrong with it than you can almost effectively negate alot of the "value" these cars have.
case in point. my red hatch. kid wanted 2k firm, i took a look and pointed out a bunch of things wrong. offered $1.3k and was firm.....he took it.
2nd case. my clean ass coupe, kid wanted $3.5k i also pointed out many things wrong with it and asked question. offered $1.9k.....he took it.
really it just is how bad you want it. looking back i wish i would have saved my money and bought a 350z lol. alas....im a 240 addict. oh well
edit. oh and as for the white hatch. youd be stupid to buy a "clean" car for that much from a forum member. (sarcasm alert!)as they obviously do not know what they have nor have ever had the temptation to beat on that car.
ijust1agame
07-19-2009, 03:43 PM
^ so the price for the white hatch is not the best or what?
biggie180sx
07-19-2009, 04:04 PM
the most i would pay is 2500 but thats just me.
i guess other people would pay more cause there including the 240sx tax and the jdm tax so i can see how it would cost 4000 haha
4k? NO WAY
For comparison I paid 3k for mine 90k on the motor all original with spotless interior(exception of cracked dash), privacy cover, original wheel chocks! Also I'm the second owner....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/2940207063_e249c553f1.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2940207133_ebcb7119c8.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/3736994880_3c24fa670f.jpg?v=0
It's up to you though if you feel that car is worth 4k to you go ahead and splurge but personally I wouldn't spend no more than about 2.5k to 3k.
ijust1agame
07-19-2009, 06:02 PM
^^ now thats a clean lookin s13.
mulinmoua
07-19-2009, 08:56 PM
keep looking, you can get a stock 240sx and make it look like that for less, so why buy someone else for more?
i sold my 240sx for $4000 but it came with 5 lug conversion, hks hi power exhuast, version select kit, tanabe sevens, nrg quick release, nardi deep corn steering wheel, clean interior, kouki turn signals and with 85xxx original mile.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm220/mulin3/l_30bdc8680466a3a1ed0763efbe412f79.jpg
ranger240
07-19-2009, 09:39 PM
240 prices vary by a huge percentage based on geography... a clean body (legitimately) rust free s13 would fetch big money here in the north east.. guys in canada talk about that too...
it seems like socal has no shortage of (mostly) rust free and clean cars...
find some cars comparable to the purple one in your area and build up your own appraisal.
asking some broke tyte drifter on zilvia for their opinion is silly.. like the "i wont pay over a grand" fool
in the northeast craigslist is full of 240s going for between 1500-2500.. theyre all crap though (including mine :wtc:)
I flip 240s for a living, ...
off topic but PLEASE do a write up tutorial on how to do that..
and how many 240s/year do you flip? how many 240s/year does it take to be above the poverty line?
this sounds worse than those vague commercials on how to sell un-named products online from home.. like the one where the guy in front of the shitty crossfire goes "... oh and the money's great too..."
adam s
07-19-2009, 11:01 PM
off topic but PLEASE do a write up tutorial on how to do that..
and how many 240s/year do you flip? how many 240s/year does it take to be above the poverty line?
this sounds worse than those vague commercials on how to sell un-named products online from home.. like the one where the guy in front of the shitty crossfire goes "... oh and the money's great too..."
Been considering doing just that for a while now haha. Although I probably won't. I'll give you a few pointers?
I make next to nothing, honestly very very little, just enough to pay my bills and save a bit. The way the economy is at the moment makes it very hard to be self employed in the car business. I flip anything rear wheel drive and Japanese haha not just 240's, along with the occasional Honda.
I look for broken but stock 240's, motivated sellers, and especially cars that really only need to be cleaned.
Look at your profit margin.
Add cost of car+parts, then subtract that from how much you KNOW you can sell it for, NOT how much you think you can sell it for.
Then look at how much you need per week to stay in business.
Thats how I started.
Know what you can fix and what you can't.
For example, bought an 89 in great condition, just needed a head gasket and some wiring sorted out. Payed $500, fixed the gasket, did a basic tuneup, and turned around and sold the car for $1800.
#1 Buy cars you know you can sell.
#2 Buy cars you know you can fix, not ones you think you can fix.
#3 Learn how to sell. Buying is easy, making a sale is much harder.
#4 Never get emotionally involved with a car, this isn't YOUR 240, this is the new buyers, fix it, clean it, and sell it accordingly.
#5 Last but not least, be honest. There are too few honest people selling cars.
You may ask why I do it?
It's a lot of work, I don't make a lot of money, and to be honest it's difficult to be motivated, I am my own boss.
I love it. Working on cars, buying and selling, and being involved in something I love to do make it worth it to me.
Hope this helps even a little.
drift freaq
07-19-2009, 11:35 PM
Been considering doing just that for a while now haha. Although I probably won't. I'll give you a few pointers?
I make next to nothing, honestly very very little, just enough to pay my bills and save a bit. The way the economy is at the moment makes it very hard to be self employed in the car business. I flip anything rear wheel drive and Japanese haha not just 240's, along with the occasional Honda.
I look for broken but stock 240's, motivated sellers, and especially cars that really only need to be cleaned.
Look at your profit margin.
Add cost of car+parts, then subtract that from how much you KNOW you can sell it for, NOT how much you think you can sell it for.
Then look at how much you need per week to stay in business.
Thats how I started.
Know what you can fix and what you can't.
For example, bought an 89 in great condition, just needed a head gasket and some wiring sorted out. Payed $500, fixed the gasket, did a basic tuneup, and turned around and sold the car for $1800.
#1 Buy cars you know you can sell.
#2 Buy cars you know you can fix, not ones you think you can fix.
#3 Learn how to sell. Buying is easy, making a sale is much harder.
#4 Never get emotionally involved with a car, this isn't YOUR 240, this is the new buyers, fix it, clean it, and sell it accordingly.
#5 Last but not least, be honest. There are too few honest people selling cars.
You may ask why I do it?
It's a lot of work, I don't make a lot of money, and to be honest it's difficult to be motivated, I am my own boss.
I love it. Working on cars, buying and selling, and being involved in something I love to do make it worth it to me.
Hope this helps even a little.
Honestly flipping cars and making money off it is not something anyone can just do.
Truth be told, it takes a certain ability. Being able to spot stuff about cars others miss, being able to take care of repairs. Like the above said knowing the cars your dealing with.
It is a skill that A: needs to be learned and B: is part natural talent in my opinion.
To many people see the people doing it and think they can too. Its just not that simple.
Its like the infomercials for flipping houses. Not everyone can get into buying and selling houses and be successful at it. Not everyone can get into buying and flipping cars and be successful at it.
Oh and if they are doing a infomercial on it? Thats because they can make even more money selling you the info on how to do it than they can even make doing it. Hence why the do the infomercial.
Honestly they know most the people buying the videotape or CD on how to do it won't succeed. Though they also know millions of people will buy it. Regardless of if the people can actually really be successful at it.
Its like the real estate boom here in socal that went on before the whole loan debacle. You had everybody and their brother trying to be Realtor's because they saw people making money and wanted to learn. Though again it takes real talent to be a successful Real Estate agent. Its not something everyone can do.
Sorry but this is the truth.
Oh and I do agree asking people on Zilvia what a 240 is worth is asking for a biased answer. They are going to tell you its overpriced and they got theirs for cheap because they want everyone to sell them for cheap. Or they are cheap and don't want to or won't pay much to begin with.
Hate me for that? Its the truth. LOL
adam s
07-19-2009, 11:49 PM
Honestly flipping cars and making money off it is not something anyone can just do.
QFT
msglngth
zenki.life
07-20-2009, 12:01 AM
yo! harry just ask a mod to close this now. you are getting all the answers now i hope this thread is just getting boring.
adam s
07-20-2009, 12:04 AM
yo! harry just ask a mod to close this now. you are getting all the answers now i hope this thread is just getting boring.
And completely off topic haha.
ijust1agame
07-20-2009, 12:58 AM
haha yeah, MODS LOCK THIS THREAD.
zenki.life
07-20-2009, 01:00 AM
no just report yourself haha
racepar1
07-20-2009, 01:20 AM
The price all depends on the car, your question is really un-answerable. $4000 for your run of the mill stockish s-13 is stupidly overpriced. On the other hand though $4000 for a cherry, original, old ass lady owned, garaged, 5-speed car with SUPER low miles and sparkling perfect paint may be worth it. I have seen one car like that. It was even an '89, but after looking at it for a bit I said to myself "hell, I would pay $5000 for a car that cherry if I could afford it". Like I said it all depends on the specific car you are buying.
zenki.life
07-20-2009, 01:58 AM
The price all depends on the car, your question is really un-answerable. $4000 for your run of the mill stockish s-13 is stupidly overpriced. On the other hand though $4000 for a cherry, original, old ass lady owned, garaged, 5-speed car with SUPER low miles may be worth it. I have seen one car like that. It was even an '89, but after looking at it for a bit I said to myself "hell, I would pay $5000 for a car that cherry if I could afford it". Like I said it all depends on the specific car you are buying.
quasi true. does this car look cherry??? no
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