View Full Version : exedy hyper single sr20det, fixable?
jimmytango00
07-17-2009, 03:23 AM
so i bought this exedy clutch for dirt cheap on craigslist. According to the owner and from what i understood, he resurfaced the pressure plate which created more space in between, so he lost clamp force and the clutch would slip under load. Now im hoping this is an easy fix , something a machine shop can take care of. I was thiking they can resurface it and take very very little just to clean it up and maybe trim the area where the bolts go through into the fly wheel to bring the pressure plate in more and close in that space, not sure if it'll work but maybe worth a shot? Im no clutch expert so all this is based on the little bit of reading i did.
hopefully some gurus can jump in.
If i do resurface, i will make sure it is a good and well known machine shop.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/sergis/DSC_0032.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/sergis/DSC_0038-1.jpg
blu808
07-17-2009, 05:35 AM
if you can get the specs on the pressure plate thickness, then measure your current one it should tell you if that is really the case.
It could be worn out clamps on the pressure plate, or a glazed clutch disc.
fast-datsun
07-17-2009, 10:49 AM
YOU getting into DANGER area pressure plates can explode and cause damage to your car and your legs. Do not attempt a repair by grinding or modifing the pressure plate, have a clutch company repair it or JUNK it .
You life or legs are worth more than a few bucks.....
tommyboi
07-17-2009, 11:14 AM
i hear some machine shops will take it apart and put in like washers or spacers or something to get it to proper height. but as fast datsun said is it worth it?...
XenoVibe
07-17-2009, 11:15 AM
^ +1
Anyone remember the discussion of those ebay clutchs that were stock but painted red to look like aftermarket? Oh it was XTD or XTR clutches.
Anyways, some guys clutch broke and ripped up through the floorboards, firewall, dashboard and through the windshield. Now would you really wanna put your balls in that situation just to save a few bucks? You have to take the tranny out anyway, why not spend a few extra on something that will last longer and save you money in the long run?
jimmytango00
07-17-2009, 11:20 AM
like said above,if i did make any modificaction to it, i would have a professional machine shop take care of it, I will not attempt to do any "grinding" my self.
Im thinking if what this guy said is true then i can just have a machine shop take a little off of where the bolts go in to bring it in closer.
what do you guys think?
jimmytango00
07-17-2009, 11:25 AM
^ +1
Anyone remember the discussion of those ebay clutchs that were stock but painted red to look like aftermarket?
Oh it was XTD or XTR clutches.
This isnt a ebay clutch. I was on the porsche forums yesterday and alot of the guy's there resurface the pressure plate but im talking about like 0.5 mm or less. Im not sure how much the guy who sold it to me chopped off but i hope its not much. Im having a hell of a time findin the specs on the pressure plate (thickness) so i can messure it.
WagDatto
07-17-2009, 11:32 AM
Here are a few pictures I found online of a cobra who's clutch/pp/flywheel exploded...
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6083/780034fu9wt0.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6775/780036qs9dp4.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5946/780050oh0sy2.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9081/780039wy7ko5.jpg
And here's my buddy's 510... The bolts holding the PP to the flywheel threaded out, the PP swung around and blasted a hole in his bellhousing...
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb86/essdeezy87/IMG_1440.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb86/essdeezy87/IMG_1441.jpg
Don't trust what you don't know...
fast-datsun
07-17-2009, 11:33 AM
a machine shop can not saftely do it because they DO NOT know the safe limints and if the previous own took to much off already you asking for trouble. I have seen and been in a car when the pressure plate exploded and its not pretty. It lifted our car 12 " off the ground and send parts 100' in every direction blowing a hole in the saftey shield and a 6" hole in the floor by the gas pedal.....
XenoVibe
07-17-2009, 11:35 AM
This isnt a ebay clutch. I was on the porsche forums yesterday and alot of the guy's there resurface the pressure plate but im talking about like 0.5 mm or less. Im not sure how much the guy who sold it to me chopped off but i hope its not much. Im having a hell of a time findin the specs on the pressure plate (thickness) so i can messure it.
My point was a clutch isnt something you want to go cheap on. I mean, what if they resurface it for you but it doesnt work. You wont get your money back, you'll be wasting more money and reducing the longevity of it. Not to mention if it only works until you're driving at high speeds and it cracks?
Im just saying that the cons outweigh the pros and that i'd personally rather opt for a new (6puck ACT) clutch or something instead just because it will be more predictable.
And .. Wow Datto thats intense.. and i have the same shoes as the guy in the first pic :P
XenoVibe
07-17-2009, 11:36 AM
"delete this post of mine pl0x"
jimmytango00
07-17-2009, 11:54 AM
just got off the phone with exedy, he said its not recommended to resurface a PP but if it is done you need to take off some meat from the bolt hole section. So pretty much they said to find out how much he cut and take that off from that section and the clutch should work fine if everything else is in good shape.
fast-datsun
07-17-2009, 02:34 PM
YOUR car and YOUR life to do with as you want....
jimmytango00
07-17-2009, 02:42 PM
yeah might just buy a new pressure plate and get it over with.
unless someone wants to buy this so i can just get a stock clutch.
anyone?
sil*eighty
07-17-2009, 02:46 PM
Here are a few pictures I found online of a cobra who's clutch/pp/flywheel exploded...
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6083/780034fu9wt0.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6775/780036qs9dp4.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5946/780050oh0sy2.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9081/780039wy7ko5.jpg
And here's my buddy's 510... The bolts holding the PP to the flywheel threaded out, the PP swung around and blasted a hole in his bellhousing...
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb86/essdeezy87/IMG_1440.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb86/essdeezy87/IMG_1441.jpg
Don't trust what you don't know...
not sure about the first one or the others for that matter,
but the second and third picture are of a skyline here in Edmonton Alberta. during friday night "street racing" i had it on tape lol
poor matt but hes onto much bigger and better things now
jimmytango00
07-17-2009, 02:47 PM
not sure about the first one or the others for that matter,
but the second and third picture are of a skyline here in Edmonton Alberta. during friday night "street racing" i had it on tape lol
poor matt but hes onto much bigger and better things now
any idea what the cause was?
sil*eighty
07-17-2009, 03:48 PM
I could ask him if you would like?
discosteak
07-18-2009, 02:05 AM
haha yeah i was about to say that cobra looks just like an r32
sil*eighty
07-19-2009, 12:49 AM
i just asked him
"What happened was the flywheel was remachined, they didn't machine it within tolerance, it developed a heatcrack due to the metal being thinner then spec and basically the flywheel cracked. The crack was unlucky, thats what caused all the damaged, because when it cracked, it broke a spot weld on the ring gear. The motor was turning 8,000 RPM at this point and the ring gear slowly peeled off, acting like a sawblade by cutting the exhaust, frame, bell housing and starter to pieces. When all the welds finally broke, it blew through the hood."
WagDatto
07-19-2009, 01:15 AM
Like I said, I just found pictures online and linked them. They were posted and I saw the word Cobra, so I just copied. Regardless, the damage would be the same under any circumstances.
godsmack
07-19-2009, 04:08 AM
ya i saw that happen b4 also. personally i'd buy a new one. i will never shorten a strength point for something that spins that fast. nothing might ever happen but imho its not worth the risk.
jimmytango00
07-19-2009, 04:44 AM
i wont be touching the disk anymore only the area where the bolts go through into the flywheel and it will be done by a machine shop, the previous owner said after they resurfaced the PP, it would grab on flat grounds but not going up hills or under heavy load. Im assuming they didnt grind more than 1mm so it just lost some clamp force. IM getting a shatter shield made aswell incase of anything. If i had 375 to spend on a pressure plate it would be on its way by now. there are no heat cracks on the PP and everything else seems good.
royisagas
02-28-2013, 11:28 AM
If the clamping surface was surfaced than you will loose clamping force and durability
The usable range of travel is limited for pressure plates
The disc is considered worn out when it is .030 " thinner, if that much was removed from the clamping face, it's no gonna work. If you want to sell it as is let me know. Im making a flywheel for my next project car, and I could compensate for the changes made to That one
Royisagas
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