SR20DET No Gaskets? Just use Silicone?

[om3ga]

So im going to be redoing the majority of the seals on the SR i have before i put it in. Ive been looking around for gaskets for the cooling system on it and i have not found ANY at all..


I was looking at the Full gasket set they make for the SR but i cant spot any that would be for where the thermostat housing connects to the block or where the thermostat housing tube (the 3 bolt part the lower radiator hose attaches to) goes. So i assume that i use Silcone liquid gasket for ALL of the cooling system parts? If you know they make gaskets for some of the things please direct me towards them because IMO Gaskets>RTV silicone.

[japslapsilvia]

you will have to use RTV for most, if not all connections in the cooling system.

[onehundredoctane]

Personally I hate RTV, yes all liquid based gasket makers are pretty much the same, but most RTV's require a 24 hour set up. I always use Right Stuff, comes in a white can with black label on it, and it will form a water tight seal in one minute. Last time I bought it I paid like $7, and you can make all the gaskets needed from one can. Just my preference.

[s14unimog]

If you can get your hands on an FSM for the Silvia, you'll see that the SR20 uses liquid gasket in more than a few places. I like to use Nissan's gray liquid gasket, but the stuff you get at AutoZone, pep-boys, etc... is just as good.

[nothix]

I've been told to use the Toyota black RTV

[burnsauto]

http://www.ecstuning.com/product_library/1400/300/VW%20%252F%20Audi%20Specification%20Silicon%20Seal ant..jpg

Audi B5 S4 2.7T > Search > Silicone > ES#1979 VW/Audi/Skoda/SEAT OEM High temperature silicone sealant - 80ml tube - ECS Tuning Inc (http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B5_S4--2.7T/Search/Silicone/ES1979/)


Audi/VW OEM silicone. Yeah, its a little pricey, but its THE BEST silicone I've ever used...and I've worked in garages and tried every one known to man.

[WoolyS14DET]

The Nissan Orange Silicone is IMO the best on the market but it's no longer avail

[japslapsilvia]

The Nissan Orange Silicone is IMO the best on the market but it's no longer avail

they include a tube of Nissan RTV in the gasket sets for SR20det.

[om3ga]

http://www.ecstuning.com/product_library/1400/300/VW%20%252F%20Audi%20Specification%20Silicon%20Seal ant..jpg

Audi B5 S4 2.7T > Search > Silicone > ES#1979 VW/Audi/Skoda/SEAT OEM High temperature silicone sealant - 80ml tube - ECS Tuning Inc (http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B5_S4--2.7T/Search/Silicone/ES1979/)


Audi/VW OEM silicone. Yeah, its a little pricey, but its THE BEST silicone I've ever used...and I've worked in garages and tried every one known to man.


So this stuff is really good? If its better than the nissan stuff then ill just go with it.

[zugoi]

I like hondas grey silicone,applies easy and nothing has ever leaked but damn i love the way they designed that audi/vw tube. genius

[burnsauto]

So this stuff is really good? If its better than the nissan stuff then ill just go with it.

Its the best I've ever used. I've sealed cracked valve covers with this stuff (not as a permanent fix, but enough to get a guys car home in one piece.

[Bigsyke]

You do know Permatex ultra grey is the same exact part number as hondabond? And hondabond has been known to be the best rtv out there, thus Permatex ultra grey is what you should buy.

[ecuastyle84]

http://www.ecstuning.com/product_library/1400/300/VW%20%252F%20Audi%20Specification%20Silicon%20Seal ant..jpg

Audi B5 S4 2.7T > Search > Silicone > ES#1979 VW/Audi/Skoda/SEAT OEM High temperature silicone sealant - 80ml tube - ECS Tuning Inc (http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B5_S4--2.7T/Search/Silicone/ES1979/)


Audi/VW OEM silicone. Yeah, its a little pricey, but its THE BEST silicone I've ever used...and I've worked in garages and tried every one known to man.

+1
a buddy of mine that works in a vw dealership gave me one and it works great!

i definitely recommend using it

[dorkidori_s13]

HONDABOND FTW!!! ;)

same shit they use on their F1 cars

[SR_Vlurs]

i personally prefer the nissan orange rtv i bought the gasket when i had my redtop and fell in love with it works great
just my personal preference tho

[om3ga]

Damn all this stuff sounds amazing, Is there anything in particular that works better for all the coolant passages? I figured id use Permatex ULTRA BLACK for the Oil pan gasket and any oil seals but what would be best for all the coolant passages?

[GSXRJJordan]

You do know Permatex ultra grey is the same exact part number as hondabond? And hondabond has been known to be the best rtv out there, thus Permatex ultra grey is what you should buy.

Yeah Permatex Ultra Grey is what Ray @ West Co Nissan gives out, and I used it on my last couple motors. Great stuff, but not designed for oil.

Damn all this stuff sounds amazing, Is there anything in particular that works better for all the coolant passages? I figured id use Permatex ULTRA BLACK for the Oil pan gasket and any oil seals but what would be best for all the coolant passages?

The black RTV is usually petroleum safe, check the labels and descriptions.

[jamg]

no use of red RTV?

[om3ga]

well im going to use ultra black for all the oil stuff, im just wondering what should i use for all the coolant stuff like the water pump and thermostat housing... etc.. Permatex makes some waterpump and thermostat housing sealer i might just use that haha. Unless someone recommends something else like that Audi/VW stuff.. Is that stuff good for coolant? and oil? or what is its main uses?

[GSXRJJordan]

well im going to use ultra black for all the oil stuff, im just wondering what should i use for all the coolant stuff like the water pump and thermostat housing... etc.. Permatex makes some waterpump and thermostat housing sealer i might just use that haha. Unless someone recommends something else like that Audi/VW stuff.. Is that stuff good for coolant? and oil? or what is its main uses?

Nissan says to use Permatex Ultra Grey.

[burnsauto]

you can use the Audi/VW stuff anywhere really, stops oil, water, etc. Plus its high temp, I really don't use anything else on my sr when I'm replacing a gasket that was originally silicone.

[om3ga]

Nissan says to use Permatex Ultra Grey.

For the coolant passages?

[onehundredoctane]

Damn all this stuff sounds amazing, Is there anything in particular that works better for all the coolant passages? I figured id use Permatex ULTRA BLACK for the Oil pan gasket and any oil seals but what would be best for all the coolant passages?


Right Stuff is good for oil, water, trans fluid, and forms a water proof seal in less than a minute or less.

[BILLFISHER21]

permatex gray best choice for all oil coolant spots havent tried the vw

[om3ga]

would ultra black be good for the coolant passages as well? I know Ultra black is best for oil but what is best for coolant is what im really wondering.

[bardabe]

I just Use the Ultra Grey on Everything, it has never failed me.

[GSXRJJordan]

For the coolant passages?

Yes.

would ultra black be good for the coolant passages as well? I know Ultra black is best for oil but what is best for coolant is what im really wondering.

No. It'd probably work, but grey is what you want.

I just Use the Ultra Grey on Everything, it has never failed me.

YES! Same here.

[johnbureezu]

I use threebond 1211... FTW! Best stuff ever. Use it on all our motorcycle and auto projects. Super high quality and they even make the Nissan stuff. Check it out.

[Mangudai]

I hear nothing but good things about Hondabond/Permatex Ultra Grey and use it with no problems myself.

[ManoNegra]

Nissan says to use Permatex Ultra Grey.

this man speaks the truth

http://www.permatex.com/documents/tds/Automotive/82194.pdf

[om3ga]

Ive been using Permatex Ultra Grey for all cooling system parts, Ill be using Permatex Ultra Black for all oil parts, oil pan, valve cover. ETC...

[Om1kron]

The Nissan Orange Silicone is IMO the best on the market but it's no longer avail

what that's weird, I bought some just the other day from frsport.

[om3ga]

Strange ive heard the new nissan stuff states not to use it for any cooling system parts.

[dynamicck]

I don't know if Hondabond and Permatex Ultra Grey are the same. I remember someone taking a picture of both, and they have different colors and consistencies.
I'm sure if you google it, you might be able to find it.

[Ceepo]

I used the orange silicon(nissan) that was supplied in my gasket kit(sr20det redtop) no leaks yet...

[johnbureezu]

1211! look how cleans it turns out..
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9cc31b3127ccef88132476e1800000030O10AYtXLNyzYuW IPbz4Q/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D1/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

[om3ga]

Damn that is clean!