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Evil S14
04-16-2003, 05:18 PM
:eek:
http://www.yzf-r1forum.com/rossi.html
:cool: :D ;)

DRFT
04-16-2003, 05:41 PM
Forget sport bikes...Bicycle drifting is the next big thing hehe...sport bike drifting seems ver deadly:( but seems fun too:cool:

ProjectWidow
04-16-2003, 06:40 PM
whoa, thats pretty cool!! That would be pretty cool but at the same time freaky as hell--But FUN!!

logo20
04-16-2003, 07:05 PM
I don't get all the drifting stuff, taking curves the fastest possible is what I call fun! he loses speed just to drift=put himself in more danger.

ruf
04-17-2003, 09:21 AM
That's Valentino Rossi, 2-time world champion MotoGP rider. Arguably the best motorcycle rider that ever lived. High power bikes (unlike cars), are fastest around a track when steered with the rear wheel. Helps get the bike pointed and fired out of the hole. Similar to how a rally car is faster with the same method, there is basically too much hp for the traction level. The bikes aren't "loose", but neutral and it's the rider that is controlling the slip angle. The best example is Gary "Slide/Ghazzah" McCoy. He came up racing speedway bikes (dirt track) so his slides are masterful. KRJR (son of "King Kenny" and former world champion himself) said once that if critics think that's the slow way, then they just don't know how to ride a motorcycle fast. A lot of the US riders also come up racing dirt bikes and dirt oval so they have a similar style. The European riders tend to come up racing 125/250cc GP bikes which are faster with smooth lines.

logo20
04-17-2003, 05:08 PM
so you're saying that drifting is the fastest way to go through a curve? It makes little sense in a dirt track since you'r bound to lose traction in the dirt and the suspension setup is different, but for road racing it doeasn't make sense.

ruf
04-17-2003, 06:41 PM
On a 220hp 350lb motorcycle, yes. On a 190hp 400lb motorcycle, yes. Only on the ultra light 125/250cc bikes is a clean line faster (200-250lbs). The weight and horsepower of the bike combine to overwhelm the traction available. By sliding the bike prior to corner entry, you can get the power down earlier and get a better drive out of the corner if you are talented. This is not "show drifting". They are EXPERTLY applying power to rotate the rear and point the bike while not spinning the rear so much that they lose forward drive.

logo20
04-17-2003, 07:52 PM
they lean the bikes sideways through the curve, so the slide would be very mininum to keep forward drive like you said. But if it is true that this slide let you go faster through a curve, does it work in every curve/speed?

ruf
04-17-2003, 10:40 PM
Typically lower to medium speed corners. On the super low speed hairpins, you usually push the front, then whip the tail around on exit. On bikes like that, though you can't see it, the tires are ALWAYS sliding. Even knee down, the bike is moving around on you. Just to give you an indication of how hairy it is to ride one of these things, they had the telemetry running on an AMA RC51 at a Daytona test. The front wheel was going 175mph while the rear was spinning at 184mph on the banking. The bikes are constantly moving around under you. Things that would make you and me leave pinch marks on the seat feel like a weekend stroll to these guys.

GotDriftS14
04-18-2003, 07:07 PM
needs more tire smoke.



and a spoiler.