So, who died Morticia?

[RJF]

http://zilvia-images.s3.amazonaws.com/morticia2.jpg

Weird.

Oh, wait. America's dying.

[Antihero983]

You fail at jokes.

[BustedS13]

i heard on fox news that he looked at a woman who wasn't his wife.

[SimpleS14]

RJF - Where would you like to live the rest of your life besides here in the U.S. ? (j/w)

[kingkilburn]

America's harbinger of death was your boy, RJF. Maybe you should crack some jokes on your own party.

[Helghast]

Hurr Democrats sucks. Republicans rule. HURRR

[BustedS13]

Hurr Democrats sucks. Republicans rule. HURRR

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m271/Atmosphere_03/1230837407265.jpg

[Matej]

Judging by RJF's constant bashing of the president and the government of this great country, as a responsible US resident I must consider him a threat to our wonderful way of life and possibly a terrorist. The appropriate authorities shall be notified.


(Please don't ban me RJF.)

[TravisSW]

I think I'm just going to keep my opinions to myself in this one and slowly post and back out of this thread.


...

[SochBAT]

RJF = Taliban!!!

[kandyflip445]

i heard on fox news that he looked at a woman who wasn't his wife.

He's married, not blind. lol

[revat619]

i don't get it.

Are we supposed to be upset that our president and his wife are walking with the pope? :ugh:

[BustedS13]

He's married, not blind. lol

also, he ordered a cheeseburger one time. motherfucker wanted DIJON mustard.

between that and the looking at a woman, he's obviously not fit to be president. i'm glad the news reports these things so we can stay informed

[handinpants]

also, he ordered a cheeseburger one time. motherfucker wanted DIJON mustard.

between that and the looking at a woman, he's obviously not fit to be president. i'm glad the news reports these things so we can stay informed


well would you rather him be checking out other men? i think deep down inside you wish he was checking you out, that you have all sorts of wierrd presidential fantasies...... thats the underlying issue and that is why it bothers you soo much....


i just want to see the pic of him at roscoes chicken and waffles.....

[SochBAT]

I'm with Busted.

Did you hear that he is also BLACK?

[revat619]

Did you hear that he is also BLACK?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaw snap yo! shit just got real son!

[Matej]

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[SimpleS14]

dUFkpv6SlvI


LOL I'm going to say that Obama played that off smoothly and the French Prez was way too obvious. :keke:


The picture at first makes it look like the two girls are staring at Obama's arse.

[98s14inaz]

RJF - Where would you like to live the rest of your life besides here in the U.S. ? (j/w)

That is the underlying problem. Real Americans who question the blatant bullshit both parties are committing are told to get with the program or gtfo. Granted RJF missed the mark with his joke (sorry buddy, funny not found).

[RJF]

RJF - Where would you like to live the rest of your life besides here in the U.S. ? (j/w)

I want to live in the USA - The country that founded on the principle of small government, where the government works for us, not the other way around and where success is not penalized through higher taxes and Obama's socialist idealogy by "spreading the wealth around"

America's harbinger of death was your boy, RJF. Maybe you should crack some jokes on your own party.

You have definitely had too much Kool-Aid. Bush managed to get us out of the Post-9/11 recession in about 18 months, how long do you think this recovery will take?

Look at the damage that Obama has done in six months. He now runs the auto industry, wants to raise taxes on everyone through his asinine Cap-&-Tax legislation and wants to socialize the healthcare industry by taking that over and killing all the private insurance companies.

Unemployment is about to hit double-digits.

http://zilvia-images.s3.amazonaws.com/unemployment.png

He's managed to quadruple the deficit in six months. And the spending is out of control with healthcare and talk of another stimulus. The deficit is what is going to really kill the economy. How do you think that's going to be paid for? Taxes on everyone and he'll sell it by saying "We all need to sacrifice for the good of the country"

http://zilvia-images.s3.amazonaws.com/obama%2Bdeficit.jpg

That is the underlying problem. Real Americans who question the blatant bullshit both parties are committing are told to get with the program or gtfo. Granted RJF missed the mark with his joke (sorry buddy, funny not found).

Read the Department of Homeland Security report from a few months back. I bet many of you fall into some of the categories classified as "domestic threats" - veterans, pro-life, pro-gun, anti-big government

As for the photo, I was bringing up the point as to why she was in an black, almost funeral-type dress. They were meeting the Pope, not going to a funeral.

[98s14inaz]

...How do you think that's going to be paid for? Taxes on everyone and he'll sell it by saying "We all need to sacrifice for the good of the country"...


I know I've heard that ideology somewhere before I...just...can't...remember...where............... .......:hide: Marx <---jk, spoiler lol

[kingkilburn]

And when, RJF, did the initial down turn happen? The Federal Reserve kept that bubble up for what 6-7 years.

[BustedS13]

I'm with Busted.

Did you hear that he is also BLACK?

i don't know if i'd rather he be black or "muslim". EITHER WAY NOT MY AMERICA, AM I RIGHT

:trogdor:

[aznpoopy]

As for the photo, I was bringing up the point as to why she was in an black, almost funeral-type dress. They were meeting the Pope, not going to a funeral.

because it's roman catholic tradition for meeting the pope.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pontifical Audiences (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02069a.htm)

The rector procures from the master of the chamber the necessary card of admission. Amongst the instructions printed on this card are those regulating the dress to be worn on such occasion: for priests the cassock with a large black mantle (ferraiolone), such as Roman secular priests wear; for lay men, evening dress with white cravat; for ladies, a black dress with black lace veil on the head.

as properly observed also by laura & barbara bush

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Laura_and_Barbara_Bush_meet_Pope_Benedict_XVI.jpg

[BustedS13]

because it's roman catholic tradition for meeting the pope.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pontifical Audiences (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02069a.htm)



as properly observed also by ELVIRA MISTRESS OF THE DARK

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Laura_and_Barbara_Bush_meet_Pope_Benedict_XVI.jpg

FIXED THAT FOR YOU ROFL

oh wait are those republicans? my bad they look FINE.

[FaLKoN240]

Aw damn, RJF got CAUGHT UP.

[drftmark]

Obama is the worst thing that has ever happened to this country. More than 9/11 and pearl harbor as sad as that is to say.

[Matej]

Worst six months of my life.

[Helghast]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/380000/images/_380923_deficit_surplus_300.gif

"It is not so long ago, that economists and politicians on both sides of the Atlantic fretted about the US government's escalating budget deficit and the ballooning size of public debt. The days of gloom are over.
A booming economy has generated massive tax revenues, and President Bill Clinton now predicts that it would take the government just 16 years to reduce the public debt to zero."



This was in '99.
Then certain someone got elected.

Oh how I miss those days.


BBC News | The Economy | Exorcising the US national debt (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/380923.stm?)

[RJF]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/380000/images/_380923_deficit_surplus_300.gif

"It is not so long ago, that economists and politicians on both sides of the Atlantic fretted about the US government's escalating budget deficit and the ballooning size of public debt. The days of gloom are over.
A booming economy has generated massive tax revenues, and President Bill Clinton now predicts that it would take the government just 16 years to reduce the public debt to zero."



This was in '99.
Then certain someone got elected.

Oh how I miss those days.


BBC News | The Economy | Exorcising the US national debt (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/380923.stm?)


And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

[BustedS13]

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

I remember when Clinton was president in spring 2001 and he ignored warnings about hijackings and didn't do anything at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/politics/10terror.html

[ESmorz]

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

I was too.

8th Grade pimpin.

[BustedS13]

u guys ever see this movie? it's a pretty good movie. I also like its sequel "Zeitgeist". i guess u could say i'm a "Truther".

7E3oIbO0AWE

open ur eyes, Amerika.

[SochBAT]

America needs to defect to Canada.

MAPLE SYRUP FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!

http://www.eskerridge.com/bj/syrup/syrup2.jpg

Also, judging by the image size, there IS enough to go around!

[revat619]

Oh this is another Obama sucks thread.....

Yeah, a year ago the majority of America couldn't wait to get this guy in office. He doesn't turn around an 8 YEAR fuck up in 6 months and now everybody wants to bitch and moan like its his fault. Ummm yeah, GTFO with that noise. :rolleyes:

[BTP]

u all http://www.lolforumpictures.com/fail/fail.jpg (http://www.lolforumpictures.com)

[Helghast]

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

:goyou::goyou::goyou::goyou:

[handinpants]

Aw damn, RJF got CAUGHT UP.


damn girl i want a copy of your signiture to stare at before i go to sleep at night....mmmm sexy

[Vision Garage]

Man why cant we give the Black man a chance! Shit dont happen overnight. But CANADA does sound like a good place to be. BROWNIES FTW!

[98s14inaz]

i don't know if i'd rather he be black or "muslim". EITHER WAY NOT MY AMERICA, AM I RIGHT

:trogdor:

Can't I hate him just because he's a socialist douchebag? Why does everyone have to bring color and religion into it.

[98s14inaz]

Oh this is another Obama sucks thread.....

Yeah, a year ago the majority of America couldn't wait to get this guy in office. He doesn't turn around an 8 YEAR fuck up in 6 months and now everybody wants to bitch and moan like its his fault. Ummm yeah, GTFO with that noise. :rolleyes:

The problem is he's not trying to turn it around, he got into the car and floored it. We're all hoping he'll have enough of us complaining, stop the car, turn around, and go home.

[BTP]

The problem is he's not trying to turn it around, he got into the car and floored it. We're all hoping he'll have enough of us complaining, stop the car, turn around, and go home.

dude its not Obamas fault Bush was a idiot and fucked up everything for the 20yrs or so and people seriously re elected him i sure he can do worst than bush so bitching and give him a chance to fix some of the problems its gonna be a while before everthing is back to were it should be.:wavey:

[98s14inaz]

dude its not Obamas fault Bush was a idiot and fucked up everything for the 20yrs or so and people seriously re elected him i sure he can do worst than bush so bitching and give him a chance to fix some of the problems its gonna be a while before everthing is back to were it should be.:wavey:

Printing more money and spending on huge government programs is not the right way to get us out of this mess. Read up on the USSR when they started printing rupples to the point when they became so worthless because of inflation they pretty much traded in vodka and jeans afterwards. History repeats itself and socialism fails because eventually you run out of other people's money. Edit, I also agree Bush was legally retarded but doing the same thing again is not right.

[FaLKoN240]

Haha...everyone knows printing money doesn't solve anything but already lower the value of the dwindling dollar.

That's like francs in Germany after Hitler died.

[SochBAT]

Or 1 Trillion Nigerian Dollars.

Thats mad money son!

[RJF]

dude its not Obamas fault Bush was a idiot and fucked up everything for the 20yrs or so

Explain to me what Bush fucked up or is that just what you hear in the media?

Obama needs to man-up, grow some balls and stop blaming Bush. He's been part of the government since 2004 and part of the problem. He wanted this job and knew what he was getting into.

[aznpoopy]

clinton started it. bush continued and maintained it.

do you really think people could give joe shmoe the migratory farmhand, who makes 20k a year, a loan for 300k for a house, with no legal authority noticing? there are laws that prevent this sort of thing... fair lending / anti predatory lending. so how could this fucked up lending happen en masse for almost a decade?

the bush administration blocked any and all attempts by states to stop predatory lending practices through promulgation of archaic rules in the office of comptroller of currency, pre-empting the ability of states to block predatory lending practices.

this battle was ongoing in the years before the crash, as the OCC's preemption was confirmed in the 2007 SCOTUS case watters v. wachovia...

this case was subseqeuntly overturned by the more recent 2009 SCOTUS case cuomo v. clearing house association, re-establishing state ability to enforce, individually, state fair-lending practice law.

and yes, obama is a fucking dumbass. two party system lends itself to the moronic idea that there are only two solutions for any given problem. if not bush, then obama. right? wrong. too bad it's entirely possible, if not probable, that the ranks of both parties are lined with idiots. blind leading the blind.

[RJF]

the bush administration blocked any and all attempts by states to stop predatory lending practices through promulgation of archaic rules in the office of comptroller of currency, pre-empting the ability of states to block predatory lending practices.


Check your facts. The Bush Administration and John McCain introduced legislation in 2004 to clean up the system and regulate sub-prime loans. The Democrats started crying racism and any legislation was killed.

[aznpoopy]

incorrect. bush administration pushed for OCC pre-emption.

that's why it's common referred to as, um, bush-era OCC pre-emption.

this is not a partisan issue.

it's something started under the dems and continued under the pubs. both parties are at fault here.

[BustedS13]

i thought communism was going to be cool but it seems pretty much the same, dunno if i should have voted for obama :/

[kingkilburn]

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[BTP]

Check your facts. The Bush Administration and John McCain introduced legislation in 2004 to clean up the system and regulate sub-prime loans. The Democrats started crying racism and any legislation was killed.
b/c bush is a idiot a 5 yr old could make the decisions he made at least Obama can talk in compete sentences and actuality make sense ha.LOL

[RJF]

b/c bush is a idiot a 5 yr old could make the decisions he made at least Obama can talk in compete sentences and actuality make sense ha.LOL

Again your facts are wrong and what does that have to do with policy? Beside Obama can't even speak on his own, he has to read everything off a teleprompter.

[Dousan_PG]

Again your facts are wrong and what does that have to do with policy? Beside Obama can't even speak on his own, he has to read everything off a teleprompter.

i think thats because he can read

http://www.gwjokes.com/pictures/photoshop-upsidedown.jpg

might be a choppped pic
but i still get a kick out of it haha

i love political threads on zilvia.

[keistyle]

i would be honored if my ass was looked by the president.

[revat619]

i love political threads on zilvia.

i know right.

Die hard republicans bitching about democratic policy and vice versa. So stupid. Like i said, a year ago, people COULDN'T WAIT to get Bush out of office. Then during all the debates, almost everybody was talking shit about McCain/Palin. People couldn't wait to swing from the Obama pair....

6 months into the administration and things havent drastically changed (which the never have in ANY administration) and now we have this bitchfest thread. "It's all Obama's fault" "He's an idiot" "He can't talk."

Yeah, i'm sure we'd be soooo much better off with McCain/Palin running things...:rolleyes:

Get serious....

Typical Zilvia...just like aero fads....one minute its version select, then Origin agressive, then Works9/BN knock offs, now DMAX. Political stances (i.e. FADS) aren't any different.

Unsubscribed.

[I LUV MY S13]

u guys ever see this movie? it's a pretty good movie. I also like its sequel "Zeitgeist". i guess u could say i'm a "Truther".

7E3oIbO0AWE

open ur eyes, Amerika.

yea watch the zeitgeist films..

[imotion s14]

Check your facts. The Bush Administration and John McCain introduced legislation in 2004 to clean up the system and regulate sub-prime loans. The Democrats started crying racism and any legislation was killed.

It's not just subprime, it's prime loans as well. The whole housing market was a bubble just waiting to pop. It's just that Sub-prime had their rate reset first so you saw it implode first. Now you're starting to see defaults with prime loans as well.

The idea that those prices were sustainable if only you regulated poor people from getting subprime is laughable.

[Brian]

America is so racist. It's amazing.

USA #1

[ranger240]

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

oh snap good comeback

[EDT007]

Check your facts. The Bush Administration and John McCain introduced legislation in 2004 to clean up the system and regulate sub-prime loans. The Democrats started crying racism and any legislation was killed.


I usually stay out of political threads for obvious reasons but I think ppl should get their facts straight. This housing melt-down was started way before the Bush era (I am in no way saying that everything Bush did during his terms was good/right, everyone has their faults). But to further defend what RJF is stating here:

YouTube - Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1)

For the record, I don't consider myself a hardcore democrat or republican but when ppl are buying $500k homes and making $50k/yr something doesn't add up. Also, another fact (not opinion). Obama is from what state/county. Cook County, Illinois. To date this has one of the highest foreclosure and unemployment rates in the country. Way to take care of your own. Also, another FACT. When someone runs for president and already have an elected position (governor, sentator) they are supposed to withdraw from taking pay (since their time is being spent primarily on the election and not on the official duties). Let me think, only person who didn't want to double-dip was Palin. Everyone else "where's my $"! Again, these are facts, so with that take this info as you will. /Rant.

[ranger240]

i think thats because he can read

http://www.gwjokes.com/pictures/photoshop-upsidedown.jpg

might be a choppped pic
but i still get a kick out of it haha

i love political threads on zilvia.

yea, and bush can read UPSIDE DOWN :aw:

[BustedS13]

to be fair, the book is upside down because he was showing the kids the pictures.

[imotion s14]

when ppl are buying $500k homes and making $50k/yr something doesn't add up.

How do you figure? In California the median price of homes was 500k which was 15 times the median income per capital of the state.

Like I said, the mortgage melt down had DICK to do with sub-primes, but the entire industry was geared up with cheap easy credit courtesy of the central bank.

Oh and

President Calls for Expanding Opportunities to Home Ownership (http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020617-2.html)

So much for Bush Administration warnings... :rofl:

The housing bubble was Bush's easy way out of recession and he took it. Actions speak louder than words. That's the FACT.

Why do Republicans feel the need to defend Bush? He was a terrible president, and I say this when I supported his 2000 campaign. But I'm not going to defend him just because he says he's a conservative (he's not).

[Brian]

I saw something on the news the other night about President going to Africa (i think).
The Africans there loved him.

This seems good. I'm glad other parts of the world like us somewhat

[iHeartTheTouge]

Judging by RJF's constant bashing of the president and the government of this great country, as a responsible US resident I must consider him a threat to our wonderful way of life and possibly a terrorist. The appropriate authorities shall be notified..)

RJF, your awesome and everything but this made me lawl. +hypothetical rep

[Phlip]

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

I don't know that I believe that...
It seems to me and some other people (http://www.alternet.org/rights/141337/it%27s_wasn%27t_only_cheney_who_had_assassination_ programs:_clinton_did_it,_and_obama_does_it,_too/?page=entire) that Clinton was busy trying to kill people that were in our way, even WHILE allegedly getting alleged hummers in the Oval Office.
Not to mention that it was the year after Monica allegedly spilled on the dress instead of swallowing -- but Clinton somehow remained president -- in 1998 that he continued to make attempts on bin Laden.

[SimpleS14]

I saw something on the news the other night about President going to Africa (i think).
The Africans there loved him.

This seems good. I'm glad other parts of the world like us somewhat

Yea, he already went to Ghana and some other countries last week. I called my mom in Ghana and she told me that a lot of people really like him over there.