Read this about "our" oil filters

[Bigsyke]

1st, read this link Ive found - its old but it shows some interesting things about our OEM filters. Note one of the most important things - bypass relief valve, or lack there of.

Anatomy of Oil Filters (http://www.websorcerer.com/GeekOut/index.html)

Secondly, ive been searching around and crossreferencing filters, ALL filters ive checked out that cross reference for the Nissan 240sx has NO built in relief valve.


This guy does though

http://partsmart.boschwebservices.com/RB/NA/AUTO/AFTERMARKET/PARTSMART/PartSmartImages/PL20195.jpg

Specifications: Anti-Drain Back ValveYesHeight4.74O.D.2.98Relief Valve P.S.I.12-15Thread PitchUNF-2BThreads3/4-16Type of FilterSpin-on

For racing applications I beleive you want upwards a 20psi relief PSI. Why doesnt any of the nissan 240sx filter apps include a bypass?

Here is a BITOG thread Filter for race use - Bob Is The Oil Guy (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1518363#Post1518363)

Thanks anto for the part number in this thread
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/121633-oversized-oil-filter-german-castrol-plus-new-shift-boots.html

That will be my next filter, which is the one in the pic above, which includes a bypass oil pump relief valve.

Reason its so important on our engines is oil starvation on startup. This and a fully sealing anti-drainback valve is key to our timing chains/tensioners life, and reducing the amount of aluminum/copper in our UOA's.

Remeber to blow inside the filters hole to check for leakage, if it leaks so will oil, and overnight your oil in the filter will drain into the pan. Ive heard an empty filter on startup could potentially skip teeth since the tenisioner is pressure opperated.

Oil filter number
PL20195 - oversized.

check my thread about wix
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/265489-wix-filters-suck.html


http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu66/chat_nic/pi_filt_oil_gold_coldoil_thumb.jpg


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1453825#Post1453825

^^^K&N info, and about blowing in the center hole

[blownmotor]

Just get an accumulator. problem solved.

[jamg]

is the oil filter number for the SR??

[vqdreaming]

im confused, in his thread he mentions using the mobil 1 oversized. Is that the same as the one that you would find if you just looked in the chart for an oil filter for a 240?

[iROYAL]

The filter for the KA24 is PL30001 (http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000511005/mediaCode-ZX/appId-12155992/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:10000051100512155992?storeId=10101&AID=10303745&catalogId=10101&langId=-1&PID=3381288).

Theres also a rebate (http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/promotions/Documents/PUR_KeepItPureRebateFLY_0409.pdf) on these filters.

[WildAsDaTaliban]

where do i get a purolator pureone from?

[Bigsyke]

The filter for the KA24 is PL30001 (http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000511005/mediaCode-ZX/appId-12155992/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:10000051100512155992?storeId=10101&AID=10303745&catalogId=10101&langId=-1&PID=3381288).

Theres also a rebate (http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/promotions/Documents/PUR_KeepItPureRebateFLY_0409.pdf) on these filters.


You DONT want that one, the one you want is;

PL20195

That is the filter that includes the bypass filter.

Again most of the OTC filters FOR A NISSAN 240sx KA24 do NOT include a bypass filter.....Why? I dont know.

[palmdale_mob]

I checked what cars that PL20195 fits and it doesnt say anything about Nissan

Strange....

[Bigsyke]

^^^thats fine, the thread pitch and gasket sizes fit. Thus an oversized filter for a different app, same thing with honda's.

[coww-cho!!!!!]

where do i get a purolator pureone from?
i live in so-cal and went to pepbpys and i was looking for a cheap oil filter and saw nothing but purolators brand on the shelves of all types and some royal P
so pepboys is your best bet

[Matej]

Approximately how much does the PL20195 cost?
Is it commonly available at parts stores/Walmart?

[Bigsyke]

Should be around $6-7 tops. No walmart only has M1's Frams etc.

Advanced auto, pepboys. Couldnt find them at oreillys/autozone.

[palmdale_mob]

Dumb question but the PL20195 is for a KADE right?

Also have you tried this on your car already?

[StalinDrift123]

OK, so whats the BEST oil filter for KA24e SINGLE CAM????

[Matej]

What about other filters for the cars that the PL20195 is intended for? Or is the Purolator the best or only one that features a bypass valve?

[Bigsyke]

Dumb question but the PL20195 is for a KADE right?

Also have you tried this on your car already?


yes, hopefully picking another one up tonight.

Its for a crystler i believe, but like ive said the thread pitch/depth and gasket ID/OD are the exact same as nissans KA filters, only difference is this filter is longer, and it includes a bypass oil pump relief.

I only used it for a few miles because like on the wix the silicone antidrain back would leak, and id get horrible dry starts. I would build pressure about 3 seconds after I start the car after letting it sit for 24 hours. I just need to blow inside the threaded hole to see if the new one holds air.

I truely think that after you open up the filters, they make little to no differences as long as the filters have;

Metal end caps
Decent canister thickness and burst PSI rating
Bypass oil pump relief valve -almost all nissan 240sx apps don't have the bypass.
Fully sealing silicone anti drainback.
Synthetic or a synthetic blend - pureone is synthetic blend.


Out of those specs, the pureone is the only one I could find. Tons of other cars use the PL20195 as an oversized alternative.

[Bigsyke]

What about other filters for the cars that the PL20195 is intended for? Or is the Purolator the best or only one that features a bypass valve?


Hey Matej you can actually use the MC 400S from walmart which is a purolator pureone PL20195 inside a motorcraft casing, one of the better filters on the market. Im pretty sure its just the 400s thats built by Purolator. $3.69 at walmart I believe


If you want a mobil1 alternative of the PL20195 the M1-209 will fit too. But it has a leaf spring Bypass valve, which is kind of iffy, you want the coil spring for a perfect seal.

[s13 @ fullboost]

Dumb question but the PL20195 is for a KADE right?


StalinDrift123OK, so whats the BEST oil filter for KA24e SINGLE CAM???? ]


If it fits and works on the DOHC then It will fit and function on the SOHC the same.

[blackej7]

edit: never mind. different thread pitch

[Bigsyke]

PureOne PL20195
WIX 51516
AC-Delco PF56
Bosch 3422
Mobil1 M1-102 and M1-209
Amsoil EaO34
Motorcraft FL-2005 (an upgraded bypass valved Mc 400s they use on the Zetec Ford fuckus') - discontinued


Big,Fat Filter - Bob Is The Oil Guy (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=349943&fpart=1)

Really REALLY big filters for our 240s

[99maxgtr]

hey bigsyke sorry to be off topic but i was reading your thread on bleeding the radiator.
i have the same problem as you where i broke the bleeder screw. wondering how you set up your breather tank without using the bleeder valve(?) if you have any pics of your set up i would appreciate it. thanks.

[soreballz]

^Seriously? Things like that are PERFECT for the Private Messaging system.

[s13 @ fullboost]

LOL at that haha

[undesiredshoe]

I use that filter...first time i took it out of the box, it was so sparkly i almost didnt want to use it.

[palmdale_mob]

yes, hopefully picking another one up tonight.

I only used it for a few miles because like on the wix the silicone antidrain back would leak, and id get horrible dry starts. I would build pressure about 3 seconds after I start the car after letting it sit for 24 hours. I just need to blow inside the threaded hole to see if the new one holds air.



So are you saying when you tried the oil filter it started leaking?

[Bigsyke]

^^^yes. If the silicone anti-drainback valve leaks you will get dry starts. That purolators anti drainback valve leaked. So I would suggest testing one out in the store before you buy it.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1453825#Post1453825

^^ Pureone looks like superior anti-drainback.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

pure one filters are good? i just put them in my old cars because they were gold, and cheap. $5 or something like that at pepboys.

[s13 @ fullboost]

^^^yes. If the silicone anti-drainback valve leaks you will get dry starts. That purolators anti drainback valve leaked. So I would suggest testing one out in the store before you buy it.

No more K&N oil filters foe me!! - Bob Is The Oil Guy (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1453825#Post1453825)

^^ Pureone looks like superior anti-drainback.
well did the new one you got leak when you put it on? I am assuming you just got a old one that was dried

[Matej]

If you want a mobil1 alternative of the PL20195 the M1-209 will fit too. But it has a leaf spring Bypass valve, which is kind of iffy, you want the coil spring for a perfect seal.
Thank you, I will go with the Purolator. I like your informative threads.

[Bigsyke]

Thanks!

Im actually going to test the Pureone PL3001 Double oversized filter to see if it fits. Its almost double the size of the PL20195. This thing is massive.

If it fits, this will be the filter of choice.

[Bigsyke]

To update, the PL3001 does not fit. The ID/OD of the gasket does not fit, and the oil pressure sender blocks the filter.

I have the PL20195, and the antidrainback is SOLID! I tried all the ones on the shelf, and I could NOT blow through them, they held pressure. EVERY single wix, mobil1, K&N ive tried leaked a little to alot. I snatched all the PL20195's I could and couldnt be happier.

No more startup noises, and the oil pressure light goes off instantly on startup, unlike Wix's which took about 2-5 seconds after startup.

[palmdale_mob]

I will be ordering one of the Pl20195's tonight

I hope this filter is as amazing as it sounds

[palmdale_mob]

Here is a pic of the pureone vs a k&n filter

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/play_dude38/DSCN1697.jpg

The pure one is a pretty good size I had to move some of my wires to get it on

[cured13]

Does anybody found filter with good antidrainback valve for red top sr20det?

[Bigsyke]

Pureone^^^ I bought like 10 of them, they all pass with 100%. Best filters ive ever used. Cross ref your current filter, find the pure1

[illvialuver]

Okay, don't hate me for saying this, but I was told the stock Nissan ones were better than most of the regular ones you find at autozone and shit. Is this correct? How do the stock Nissan oil filters work? And have you tryed the Royal Purple filters?

[Bigsyke]

Most nissan/honda filters have durable canisters, drainback valves, but the filter media isnt nearly as good as a full synthetic PureOne. Newer Honda filters are made by fram. The old ones were hamp/Toyo Roki. Ive heard the same about nissan's new filters being lower quality.

Plus PureOnes are cheaper, no reason to buy anything else.

[illvialuver]

So what is the exact code for the ka24de, the one that your recomending.

[ZenkiKid]

Im running a 400s, its pretty big and its alot easier to put on compared to the smaller filters

[s13dan]

**edit**

Well damnit. Lets get the clear.

-PL20195 is for KA's and does have the bypass valve.
-Whats the Pureone part number for an SR filter with a bypass valve.

Here we go.

KA-PL20195
SR low port-L14612
SR high port-LI4477

[illvialuver]

So is there a list of the places that carry the pureone oil filters?

[Bushido]

i know autozone does in fl.

PL20195 is whats i've been using for years

[driftsilvias13]

Here we go.

KA-PL20195
SR low port-L14612
SR high port-LI4477

Whats the difference between low port and high port?

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I threw a PL20195 on in my last oil change. I can vouch for it, it does work, but I haven't noticed any difference, haha. Don't get discouraged, it might take a couple of tried to thread it, but it does fit. Hell, I know I won't notice a difference, but I know my motor does.

Great discovery.

[idriveattz32]

I only use Purolator Pures and Wix, good stuff. You guys would laugh at the filter size for the Z/G...I use the filter for the 4.0 VQ's found in the trucks because its noticeably bigger. One day doing a filter compatibility search on Wix, the otc filter callout said the filter was used in some nissan vehicles and then it listed half a dozen small tractors and mowers...I lol'd.

As for finding them...someone already said it, but Im pretty sure PepBoys carries them at all stores.

[S14_Kouki]

Iv been using Fram extraguard PH6607 for about 5 years now and they have always been working great with my car.

[s13dan]

*note the only diff between L and PL is the efficienty rating and the grip. But they are for the same applications. PL being better rating according to the box.


Whats the difference between low port and high port?

The difference is in the head, having to do with the oil jurnals. Older SR's are low port and newer ones are high port. You can tell the diff by the two types of intake mani's.

[Drifting-pedobear]

**edit**

Well damnit. Lets get the clear.

-PL20195 is for KA's and does have the bypass valve.
-Whats the Pureone part number for an SR filter with a bypass valve.

Here we go.

KA-PL20195
SR low port-L14612
SR high port-LI4477

when i Google the SR low port, i can find it on amazon, ebay, etc...
where as, when i Google the high port, i get nothing... im assuming the high ports are for s14/15 sr's correct? idk if ne1 else ran into this issue.

[cured13]

s13 sr20det are high ports,
s14/s15 are low ports
Here is an interesting thread that explain the differences
HOW TO: Do I have a low port or high port? - SR20 Forum (http://www.sr20forum.com/technical-information-library/76933-how-do-i-have-low-port-high-port.html)

[Bigsyke]

Get the PL, its synthetic and flows better.

[Project S13]

Any body know were I can order the PL20195 by the dozen or a pack.

[s13 loverr]

Any body know were I can order the PL20195 by the dozen or a pack.

I guess I should say SEARCH (Google.com) just because everyone else is going to rag on you for not, :cops: but to answer your question I got a bunch from amazon.com