ISIS Suspension Review

[Sileighty_85]

Just Got my ISIS Tension Rods from Enjuku today.
These are for My S14 DD

Only gripe is they came scratched up, kinda like they were shipped in bulk with no padding, (Packaging from Enjuku was fine) but oh well

Over all they seem pretty beefy

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1126.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1127.jpg

Dont know much about Heim Joints sooo....

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1128.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1129.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1130.jpg

I bought only the Front tension rods cuz the ones on the S14 are shot and im working on installing an RB25

So I will be buying the rest of the arms after the swap when i get the coil overs installed.

So if anyone else has bought the other Arms from ISIS post up some pics for everyone else to take a look at

Update:

Installed the Tension rods.....holy hell its hot outside

Old ones
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1133.jpg

bolted up Just fine, Of course they were easy its a tension rod
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1134.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1137.jpg

I knew the car was pullin a little to the left but thought it just needed an aligntment....lucky me (came like this when i bought it)
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1136.jpg

[TheSquidd]

Click here to see the review:
http://www.violentrunning.squidd.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/SQD_0046-copy.jpg (http://www.violentrunning.squidd.org/news/2009/07/isis-suspension-install-part-1/)

My review, part 1.

Pretty fucking insane pricing on these things. They're not SPL parts arms, but fuck they're 100$ a piece, you're getting an entire set for the price of two pairs from SPL / PBM. Can't wait to see what they do on the track.

:coolugh:

[ixfxi]

http://splparts.com/main4/parts/NissanShared/Suspension/Multilink/SPLTensionRodBlack.jpg

Pretty fucking insane pricing on these things. They're not SPL parts arms, but fuck they're 100$ a piece, you're getting an entire set for the price of two pairs from SPL / PBM. Can't wait to see what they do on the track.

:coolugh:

not spl, really? coulda fooled me.

[TheSquidd]

Was referring more to the Toe rods anyway. Since that is what I've had before.
http://www.splparts.com/main4/parts/NissanShared/Suspension/Multilink/SPLRTAS13_1.jpg

[babowc]

I don't see what the farking difference is between ISIS products and ebay or Chinese products.

[karl wasabi]

I've seen these arms in person. They look pretty decent. If you are on a budget, it's awesome.

[gsxr141]

they look ok to me. i for one am running circuit sports toe rods, traction rods, and tension rods with no problems so far. i would have possibly gotten the isis stuff if it had been out at the time.

[Shadowhunter]

I don't see what the farking difference is between ISIS products and ebay or Chinese products.

I can vouch that the Ebay 'godspeed' shit is way worse quality then these arms,now wether or not the joints themselves are awesome remains yet to be seen. But just by looking at these and seeing some godspeeds in person these look far superior in almost every way.

[jamg]

i believe ken has stated that they are being tested on a few track cars. (not sure though)

so i guess we'll see.

[TheWolf]

boop rod ends... that's what your really paying for...

[Fries]

Can't really be worse than destroyed ass rubber bushings on an s13, unless the ends pop out or something.

Fuccccck. I'm about to test the fuck out of these for you guys.

[CyanideSX]

Interested in buying but wanted to know how you like them. They have been on your car for a few months now, whats the verdict?

[jeb1517]

Any updates? So far I can only find install and fitment reviews. Looking forward to hearing from thesquidd for a review on actual performance.

My tension rod bushings are shot so I was going to replace them with poly bushings because I don't go to the track or anything. But the ISIS TC rods aren't too much more so I figured why not.

[Sileighty_85]

The tension rods are holding up fine for me, Im still rocking full stock suspension.
but i beat the crap out of these, roads are crappy here with pot holes every where so im always hitting them.

But holding up good so far ^_^b

[Matej]

They look like every other Ebay tension rod.

Looks like they even come wrapped in the same packaging, haha.

http://www.violentrunning.squidd.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/SQD_0045-copy.jpg

[Sileighty_85]

They look like every other Ebay tension rod.

Looks like they even come wrapped in the same packaging, haha.




I just see it as a way of keeping the cost low, I could care less what it wrapped in.

Im paying for what comes inside, not what its wrapped with

[deuceforty]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1136.jpg

dude your tie rod looks bent to shit in this pic...

[Sileighty_85]

dude your tie rod looks bent to shit in this pic...

haha yeah fixed that real easily
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1270.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN1272.jpg

[chibo]

I bought a full set for a S14. I'll take pictures later but the welds are undercut and doesn't have a clean end (it's cratered).

[southerncross]

i have the circuit sports stuff and its all been really good, i only paid $120 shipped for the pair if i remember correctly. theyre still holding on after a year of daily abuse from potholes and retardedly stiff Stance coilovers on georgia roads (including dirt and gravel roads regularly).

[Riggle]

haha yeah fixed that real easily

Dang! I really hope you changed that out after all that (maybe just fixed it at the track...I dont know). Your toe and steer ahead are def screwed after that. Better than it being bent to shit, I know, but that inner tie rod end looked pretty gnarly, hope you swap that out ASAP and align that poor girl. :P

[Sileighty_85]

Dang! I really hope you changed that out after all that (maybe just fixed it at the track...I dont know). Your toe and steer ahead are def screwed after that. Better than it being bent to shit, I know, but that inner tie rod end looked pretty gnarly, hope you swap that out ASAP and align that poor girl. :P

hahah it my daily right now, Stock everything minus the Tension rods

It was horrible before. Drives straight now with new tires up front, no abnormal wear. no stressed metal marks on the inner Tie rod either

I plan on a full suspenion upgrade when i swap the RB in. so no need to replace somthing that not broke right now

[chibo]

So I ordered a full S14 rear set a few weeks ago and I put them on today...
http://redreplicant.mylha.com/temp/DSC_0297.jpg
http://redreplicant.mylha.com/temp/DSC_0303.jpg



Now, here is my problem with them:
http://redreplicant.mylha.com/temp/DSC_0299.jpg
http://redreplicant.mylha.com/temp/DSC_0300.jpg
http://redreplicant.mylha.com/temp/DSC_0301.jpg

The welding quality sucks shit, and I'm not just being some retarded e-weldor who says they are awesome/shit depending on if they are DIMEZ yo. They are undercut heavily and have porosity.

[Sileighty_85]

The welding quality sucks shit, and I'm not just being some retarded e-weldor who says they are awesome/shit depending on if they are DIMEZ yo. They are undercut heavily and have porosity.


Let Ken know, they are new to building these, so they need feed back to improve the design/quality

[chibo]

Sorry for not knowing, but who is Ken?

[Sileighty_85]

Sorry for not knowing, but who is Ken?
Ken is the head hancho at Enjuku Racing

[IThaJokaI]

Well I actually put the front tension rods to an actual test.

I hit a curb @ ~40mph, brakes locked up and slid right into it head on. Not ONE fucking issue with the tension rods, no bends, cracks, rips. Everything is fine, even though it fucked up everything else under my front end.

I def give Afucking+ for quality.

[chibo]

^^^ :rofl:
Ken is the head hancho at Enjuku Racing

Cool, I emailed him. Don't mean to come off harsh, just needs to be brought to his attention so it can be improved in the future.

[Bumnah]

The hybrid adjuster on the SPL arms makes them worth it alone.

[BustedS13]

"isis" is rebranded chinese shit. people try to play it down, but that's what it is. not trying to nay-say Enjuku, but, it's hard to deny.

[Otto347]

There is no excuse for the shit welds on that crap. Its re colored ebay shit.

How could anyone in their right mind let that shit get coated? Let alone the person who welded it letting go to coating? fuck fuck fuck..............people will still buy this garbage and enjuku is just as shitty for selling it.

[BustedS13]

you can't blame Enjuku for staying afloat. people don't pay for name brands anymore. but some QC would be nice.

[Matej]

I just see it as a way of keeping the cost low, I could care less what it wrapped in.

Im paying for what comes inside, not what its wrapped with
Not putting it down. Just saying you overpaid for a repackaged Ebay product sold under a 'brand name.'


"isis" is rebranded chinese shit. people try to play it down, but that's what it is. not trying to nay-say Enjuku, but, it's hard to deny.
Exactly. Can't believe more people aren't seeing this. All of 'their' products are exactly identical to parts that are being sold on Ebay for cheaper, and have been sold on Ebay for years. And by identical I do not mean similar, I mean 100% 'every little detail matching obviously made in the same factory by the same machine' identical.

[Enjuku Racing]

I am really sorry that some of you feel that these are "Ebay" arms. I would have to COMPLETELY DISAGREE !!!

ISIS sent us their first set of arms quite a few months back and they were very similar to some of the other crappy ebay style ones out there. (NOT THE SAME, SIMILAR) We sent them back and told them what needed to happen and what to change on these arms.

you will not find these arms on Ebay PERIOD !!! (Unless we or another ISIS dealer puts them up there)

As for "rebranded chinese shit" look at the seat you are sitting on, look at the monitor you are looking at, the keyboard you are typing on. EVERYTHING is made in China/Asia. Just because something looks the same doesnt mean it is the same.

This type of conversation really gets me heated because i have personally put a lot into helping ISIS improve and provide a quality product at a great price.

Sincerely,
Ken Harrison

[myreds14]

Ken- What are your (Enjuku) plans to ensure that quality remains consistent with these suspension arms?

I have a set of arms on the way, and after seeing the photos of the poor welds, I am concerned that I will recieve arms of the same quality. I hope that those are full penetration welds and just ugly on the surface...

I'll be sure to post up pictures and give a review.

[Enjuku Racing]

Something you guys need to think about is something called "cost benefit analysis"

ISIS has never claimed to be the highest top end products on the market. However.......

We have sold almost 1000 ISIS Suspension arms. ZERO Failures. These are also on a Professional Formula Drift Car, numerous weekend drifters, plenty of street cars and doing great!!

By all means if someone wants Nasa quality welding I am sure we can find you a product to fit your needs. We sell everything from the highest end products down to some that are much lower than ISIS.

When ISIS came out we wanted to help them provide a quality product that withstands normal daily abuse and still be able to provide it at a GREAT PRICE.

I think ISIS does this hands down. I have been selling parts for over 10 years and ISIS is by far the best for the money in my personal oppinion.


If anyone has any more questions or comments please feel free to email me directly - [email protected]

Sincerely

Ken Harrison

[jusee]

anything on their coilover review?

[Eastside DriFto]

If your that worried about weld qulity ,grind the welds down and re-weld them..I love isis..There intake mani ROCKS..

[Enjuku Racing]

anything on their coilover review?

We have been testing their coilovers for about 3 months now. So far the few people that are using them really like the ride quality and handling. The only complaint is the rear doesnt slam to the ground as much as some of the other brands out there. This is due to a taller rear spring than some others out there. We are working with them to produce a set that has a shorter rear spring.

One of the test vehicles is a Drift Demo car that does demos all over, and they like the way they feel. Another is just a daily driver and they are happy also. We have also sold a few sets recently and have had good response.

In no way will these compare to Stance, Tein, BC, Etc... These are a VERY BASIC Entry level coilover.

Honestly, i didnt want to sell them because i dont want to compete in the coilover market. But we have been getting a lot of response for people wanting an entry level coilover. just for the guy that needs to replace his stock blown struts, doesnt want to buy springs/struts, cant afford a big expensive set of coilovers, but wants to be able to have the adustabilty of coilovers.

The craftsmanship and quaitly are pretty nice on these, but they are what they are, A Basic set of coilovers. Nothing to special about them.

Thanks

Ken

[jusee]

thanks for the helpful response, do you know the max drop for the rear?

[chibo]

If your that worried about weld qulity ,grind the welds down and re-weld them..I love isis..There intake mani ROCKS..

If I wanted to that I'd have made my own arms with aurora ends.

[Jeezy240]

I have everything on my s13. I daily/ drift my car. I beat my car and I have had them on my car for about 3 months. No problems. I'm running tien drift masters as low at they go. I think they are great. As for the guy that got bad welds, mine wernt like that. They were nice welds. I guess you got a bad batch

[RastaS13]

Well I actually put the front tension rods to an actual test.

I hit a curb @ ~40mph, brakes locked up and slid right into it head on. Not ONE fucking issue with the tension rods, no bends, cracks, rips. Everything is fine, even though it fucked up everything else under my front end.

I def give Afucking+ for quality.

HAHA it sounds like you did it on purpose just to test this stuff. By the way it sounds, those things are pretty sturdy.

[deuceforty]

I am really sorry that some of you feel that these are "Ebay" arms. I would have to COMPLETELY DISAGREE !!!

ISIS sent us their first set of arms quite a few months back and they were very similar to some of the other crappy ebay style ones out there. (NOT THE SAME, SIMILAR) We sent them back and told them what needed to happen and what to change on these arms.

you will not find these arms on Ebay PERIOD !!! (Unless we or another ISIS dealer puts them up there)

As for "rebranded chinese shit" look at the seat you are sitting on, look at the monitor you are looking at, the keyboard you are typing on. EVERYTHING is made in China/Asia. Just because something looks the same doesnt mean it is the same.

This type of conversation really gets me heated because i have personally put a lot into helping ISIS improve and provide a quality product at a great price.

Sincerely,
Ken Harrison

to further emphasize what ken is saying, just because a product LOOKS the same on pictures doesnt mean it is.

pick up a greddy manifold or oil pan, and put it next to a fake and you will immediately be able to tell the difference in quality. same goes for any fake, shoes, purses, wallets etc.

to say "it looks the same" means nothing..

[chibo]

I have everything on my s13. I daily/ drift my car. I beat my car and I have had them on my car for about 3 months. No problems. I'm running tien drift masters as low at they go. I think they are great. As for the guy that got bad welds, mine wernt like that. They were nice welds. I guess you got a bad batch

Well that's very comforting, if mine fail and send me into a wall then we'll know. :hahano: I can't really pull them off since I was replacing broken parts in the first place. I'm also not a drifter, I run road courses so I'm putting more stress on the arms than you are.

[IThaJokaI]

HAHA it sounds like you did it on purpose just to test this stuff. By the way it sounds, those things are pretty sturdy.

Haha def not on purpose, but i guess its a good test for the products.

[Otto347]

This type of conversation really gets me heated because i have personally put a lot into helping ISIS improve and provide a quality product at a great price.

Sincerely,
Ken Harrison

Well then what do you have to say about these pictures? Im not trying to start an argument but that is fucking unacceptable to run on anyones vehicle. Maybe I am getting so HEATED because this is what I do all day, I weld suspension parts for a company that deals mostly in drag and road racing. If anything like this ever got past one of the welders then powdercoat would catch it, we would go back grind out the contamination and fix it. That shit in those pictures is just people trying to turn shit out for profit and being pretty fucking lazy about it.


http://redreplicant.mylha.com/temp/DSC_0299.jpg
http://redreplicant.mylha.com/temp/DSC_0300.jpg
http://redreplicant.mylha.com/temp/DSC_0301.jpg

[RastaS13]

Well then what do you have to say about these pictures? Im not trying to start an argument but that is fucking unacceptable to run on anyones vehicle. Maybe I am getting so HEATED because this is what I do all day, I weld suspension parts for a company that deals mostly in drag and road racing. If anything like this ever got past one of the welders then powdercoat would catch it, we would go back grind out the contamination and fix it. That shit in those pictures is just people trying to turn shit out for profit and being pretty fucking lazy about it.

Hes gotta point

[Enjuku Racing]

Otto347

What do I have to say about the pictures? ..... The welding on that specific set of arms is not the best in the world. If you or anyone else is not happy with the quailty of an ISIS product send it back and i will replace it or switch you to a higher end brand.

Pretty simple.

Again, we have sold over 1000 ISIS Arms with Zero Failure. This is the first set that anyone has ever said they were this unhappy with the weld quality for the money. If someone is unhappy with the look or their perception of quality then call me and i will take care of you. 1 in 1000 is prety good in my opinion. I get more Greddy, HKS, and Apexi warranties than that.

consistency in welding is fairly hard when you have to turn out thousands of arms to keep up with demand. This demand means that a huge majority of customer out there are very happy with the ISIS products. If there are a few that dont meet the customer standards for what they paid we and ISIS will take care of it.

Time is money.. there is no way to provide a product at this price if you spend hours on one piece.

You say you do this for a living, and I can guarentee that if you are doing this that your shop charges 10 times what these ISIS arms sell for.

Again, if someone wants to spend 1K on a set of SUS arms we sell it. If they want to spend $400 we can supply it.

Some people have lots of money to blow on their cars, and some don't. As a business we have to cater to everyone out there or we will fail like 90% of the car shops i have seen come and go in the last 10+ years.

I dont feel that there is anything more to discuss on this subject. Everyone has their opinions and i have mine.

If you or anyone is unhappy with something call me and i will take care of you... Again SIMPLE......

Sincerely,

Ken Harrison

[jamg]

ISIS arms are made by humans.

Humans are not perfect.

TF

Some ISIS arms will not be perfect.

[Otto347]

consistency in welding is fairly hard when you have to turn out thousands of arms to keep up with demand.

Im going to have to disagree on that one, its like the more I weld the more consistent the quality becomes. Dont get me wrong ive had plenty of times when I ran out of gas or a fan blew just right and that same thing happend to me, but you cant just let something like that slide. Now as for the undercutting that was just bad welding.

You say you do this for a living, and I can guarentee that if you are doing this that your shop charges 10 times what these ISIS arms sell for.
Well this is apples to oranges, we make parts for almost every GM out there along with 3 gens of mustang stuff. Our parts are priced competitive with the other companys we compete with but I could count them on 1 hand. I would imagine if we had as many aftermarket companys as the 240 market does then things might change.

[chibo]

ISIS arms are made by humans.

Humans are not perfect.

TF

Some ISIS arms will not be perfect.

That is what QC is for.

[thefro526]

That is what QC is for.

In theory yes, QC is supposed to catch any issues with a product. In reality QC is done by people and people can make mistakes. More often than not, you will have one or two pieces out of every batch that won't make the cut, sometimes these parts won't be caught and that's a fact of life. As you can see Enjuku is willing to replace any flawed parts.

Btw, I work at a company where I designed parts that are made overseas (China) and in a batch of 1000 or so parts we'll find at least 10 or more that slipped through the original factory's quality control system... It's just the way things are over there.

If you want cheap parts then quality may be lower. If you want high quality man up and pay some coin.

Back on topic though, I've recommended ISIS arms to a bunch of people because they're inexpensive, but better yet they're inexpensive and Enjuku stands behind them.

[REALLY FASTback]

well..looks like ima get me a set of those arms..with prices that cheap and KEN standing behind them willing to replace any unsatisfied parts..then theres nothing to think about..ill order my set and write up a review once everything is on and tested :) the closest thing to a drift event we got around my area is AUTOx every month, so i guess ill test them out there before thunderhill in november

[sidewaysil80]

ditto... i'm not some enjuku fanboy but i've been supporting/shopping with them for YEARS! ken does no bullshit stand behind his word/establisment/parts, i had a greddy gauge blow out on me and he spearheaded greddy to replace it. if he says he'll replace any flawed units their is no doubt in my mind he will. these are not spl arms they are a middle solution between ebay shit and high end products. i plan on picking up a set of ruca's and rear toe rods in a couple of weeks. i wont be able to install/enjoy them till i get back to the states...however when i do i will write a full UNBIASED review.

[chibo]

write a full UNBIASED review.

Mine was unbiased. :rofl:

[Ceepo]

I ordered the ISIS Intercooler Piping, and radiator last week from Ken, the welds look awesome on my products, some of the ebay piping I have seen the welds on the inside are shit, I was looking at the welds on the inside of the ISIS piping and its smooth as can be. Fitment is awesome to, I think these products are great for the budget minded 240sx owner, if you dont agree with the quality of ISIS Products gtfo and dont buy it, no one is putting a gun to your head are they!?!?!?!?

[s14_sr20_silvia]

I have bought almost every aftermarket part on my car from Enjuku. So I really want to believe them when they say ISIS makes a good product, but even when I look at the pictures on Enjuku's website I simply would not put their parts on my car. Some of the other brands (Megan Racing, Circuit Sports, etc.) are for the 'budget minded' 240SX owner, and my experience with those products is that they are excellent quality. Like I said I am one of the biggest fans of Enjuku and have spent well over $10k with them alone, but when I went to Formula D earlier this year and looked at the ISIS products in person I was like WTF Enjuku!

[drivens13]

You get what you pay for,it's that simple.
I have bought ISIS suspension arms,radiator,other parts and can tell you the QC is not exactly there with the welds.The fitment and price however have been great and with Ken giving everyone a no hassle money back guarantee i'll buy from Ken over "ebay" stuff anyday.

[Neejay]

Sileighty_85 and TheSquidd: any updates?

[Enjuku Racing]

To date we have sold almost 1200 individual ISIS suspension arms with ZERO Failure!!

They are a budget minded arm, but they get the job DONE!!!

If you want to buy a big name brand, by all means CALL ME... I will sell it.. ahahah

Thanks

Ken

[stricnynel0s]

i must say i am a fan of ken / enjuku he is backing his product 100%, i am very torn on this, i have wanted to get spl, and like he said higher quality stuff cost, more money but its VERY reassuring to see someone backing up a product like this. I daily drive my car, i wont act like i am some drift ninja or anything but when i am ready to do my suspension, these will be an option for me mainly knowing that someone like ken is behind them

[NINJASPY]

how long has isis suspension arms been on the market?

[Enjuku Racing]

We have been selling them since January of this year. So ~9 months for these arms.

thanks

Ken

[Sileighty_85]

Just got in the Full ISIS Kit for my S14
Pretty nice, very beefy. I have no worries about these breaking.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN2571.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN2576.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN2578.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN2579.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/DSCN2580.jpg

I will be installing these when i get a day off, so hopefully close to the end of this week or this weekend

[Sileighty_85]

Installed the Control arms threw on my S13's rims and got an alignment

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/Kouki/DSCN2671.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/Kouki/DSCN2674.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/Kouki/DSCN2676.jpg

Just took a total of a 800 mile trip, with a bunch of spirited/grip driving
No problems at all everything feels great

[BTP]

dam nice S14 looks nice and flush.

[Sileighty_85]

dam nice S14 looks nice and flush.

Thanks, just got her a month or so ago so still work in progress.
Rims are just temp cuz the rims that came on the car are sunken battle ships and shitty tires, i wanted some good tires for the trips.

PO had Work VSKF's and had the rear fenders pull for them so i'm probably gonna get a set of them since they looked really good on it too.

[speedstar01]

any other road test reviews or updates on Isis links?

[Sileighty_85]

Still no Problems with mine.
I DD and Beat on them everyday

[SinGarage]

Good to hear that these are still holding up well. I was contemplating on getting these and almost forgot this post but I think I will ordering the set. Thanks for the feedback.

[lazysk8er2]

any rusting issues like some of the other products?

[Sileighty_85]

Nothing I can see or I would worry about.

These are the only spots I can see since my car is so low lol

Threads are still rust free
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/Kouki/DSCN3797.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Miyukis%20Silvia/Kouki/DSCN3811.jpg

Damn my Axle Boot broke....:(

[lazysk8er2]

lol indeed maybe isis makes an oe replacement for that also!

[Enjuku Racing]

They have been holding up great on this car

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4683536659_01ed675186_b.jpg

:o)

Ken

[Katsumbhong]

Waiting for my wheels to sell, already have the suspension package waiting in the shopping cart @ enjuku.

[Katsumbhong]

Got my Isis Arms in the mail today. Took ~12 days to arrive into San Diego from Florida via UPS Ground Shipping.


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/IsisArms.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/IsisArms2.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/IsisArms3.jpg

A few things I noticed about the arms
I inspected the arms and found this on one of the toe rods:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/Crack.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/Crack2.jpg

I'm not an expert at welding. Don't know if that's the actual weld that's cracked or the powdercoat. Taking it down soon to my welder to take a look at it, clean it up and re-weld if need be.


The studs on the Tension Rods don't look seated all the way. A few washers and an air ratchet should fix that right up!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/IsisArms4.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/IMG_0022.jpg


The mounting forks on one of the Toe Rods seems off visually. I'll have to get a level and see if it's my eyes playing tricks with me.

All-in-All I am VERY happy with the purchase. The welds may not look pretty, however for the price, I can't complain. I will be installing these at a buddy's house after I check out the pieces a little more carefully.

Cheers!

[Enjuku Racing]

Thank you for the review.

If your welder friend has any issues with it, just let us know and we will get it replaced right away. I am pretty sure it is just the coating, as I dont see a weld cracking if a part is still new in the box, but we will take care of it if there is any doubt or issue.

thanks
Ken

[Z33dori]

yes, the welds on my Arms looked a bit shakey, but they were penetraded all the way through. So im sure they will hold up.

cant really beat them for the price tho. Legit

[thefro526]

Just going by some visual inspection guidelines, that weld looks plenty strong, but if it were a piece that were seen I'd probably fail it and have the welder clean it up a bit.

You should be okay.

[sidewaysil80]

Thank you for the review.

If your welder friend has any issues with it, just let us know and we will get it replaced right away. I am pretty sure it is just the coating, as I dont see a weld cracking if a part is still new in the box, but we will take care of it if there is any doubt or issue.

thanks
Ken

this is why i deal ONLY with enjuku...we're fellow enthusiasts to them, not dollar signs. and fwiw i have been rocking isis suspension arms and have had NO issue whatsoever. everyone says if your on a budget get these...but to be honest i'm recommending them to anyone. they are doing the same thing as all the other "high end brands" out there and imo come with better customer support.

[Sam_Well.13]

got get me a set of these...

and for those cryin about these being from china....its probably made out there because of CHEAP LABOR..if anything the parts made by JIC, raw material come from china...shit nike and jordan products are made in china, and people go crazy for em... a company make their product overseas for their benefit, for cheap labor and cheap (price wise) raw material, that doesnt necessary mean the product it self is made WITH cheap material.

for the price like that. and from the looks of it. pretty good, those welds are probably a dime a dozen.

[Katsumbhong]

UPDATE!


I posted about getting my arms and one of the toe rods having a slight crack in it:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/Crack.jpg


Went to my welder to take a look at it the other day. He said it looked like the settings weren't hot enough when it was welded. He took a wire wheel attachment to get into the "crack" to see what was up.

Turns out... it was GOOD! He said the weld was a little undercut and cast a mean little shadow, but it had good enough penetration. He recommended that it should be welded a tad bit hotter, but All in All, it's good to go!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Isis%20Control%20arms/ToeArm.jpg

:drool:

+1 for Ken, Enjuku, and Isis!!!

[wenalfredwen]

if they came in another color ....

[s14freak93901]

who cares about the color. it's just gotta work

Ken is legit. deal with enjuku.

[Zach-sr]

if they came in another color ....

Sand blast and paint.

[TheRealSy90]

I appreciate the bump to this thread, I didn't know Ken stood behind these like he does. +1 internets for Enjuku.

[ss1156ss]

Any update on how well they are working out for you? I really thought about getting these too. I am looking for coilovers for my car as well.

[ROOSEY]

everytime ive had a question about a part ken's answered me right back. he deffinitly stands by his products and is honest about what he sells. buy from enjuku!

[waxball88]

Been running with my ISIS stuff for a month or two now. The welds on my look great, powder is pretty good. Arms are holding up great.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/waxball88/100_0603.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/waxball88/100_0615.jpg

[gallo]

just an input i have various isis products on my car and by no means am i affiliated with isis or any company, just regular guy. anyway i have isis coils on my s14 and they ride super smooth and can get decently stiff as well, i say the coilover kit is for someone that daily drives their car more than drifts but expects their coils to work well on the track. i have had them for 4 months or so and no problems yet. as far as my isis engine parts they fit and work very well. so i would say isis is not ebay quality. once again just my .02. if anyone had any questions or wants pictures let me know. i just ordered my isis coils for my s13 and yamato arms for the same price as i would have paid for only coils of some other brand.

[Allmtoreg]

i bought the set earlier in the year. i had an issue with my traction rods. one of the mounting forks was not welded straight at all. talked to Ken and he sent me a new pair in a few days. besides that issue they are great arms for the price and i will always support enjuku because they will always help you when your not satisfied with your product.

heres what i was talking about with the fork.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/Punkindrublic843/IMG_0142.jpg

[SuicidnS13]

As the worlds mfg and industrial economy changes the aftermarket will follow it. Business is business and in the end its all about survival. All we can do is support those which support us(the consumer). If competiting companies cannot find other means to drop cost to compete they fail and get replaced. The difference is enjuku and xs power are pretty good at replacing and warrantying products. Sure you pay a little more for a chinese product but with that you get customer service and a little more peace of mind. As other chinese mfg companies step into the game quality will be forced to improve as they will essentially be competing with each other instead of just labor rates vs Japan and here.

[xnissan240sx]

Any more updates with these? tested them on the track yet?

[Enjuku Racing]

Any more updates with these? tested them on the track yet?

I would say so :o)

http://www.isisperformance.com/content/news/5/isis_4.jpg

http://www.isisperformance.com/content/news/5/isis_5.jpg

http://www.isisperformance.com/content/news/5/isis_3.jpg


Ken

[slambarsoldier]

Isis arms are amazing. I used to break RUCA's allll the time. I havnt broken or stressed any of my ISIS arms, and my car has been super wrecked like 3 times with them on it.
Smashed it into the wall at Irwindale(front once and rear twice.)
Smashed the rear at our local Orlando track a bunch.
Then my buddy smashed it into the wall at like a 45* angle head on at like 50mph, jumped up the krail and smashed back down. Arms were still solid. The tension rod actually broke the tension rod bracket where it mounts in the front.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/5134449320_0abd20a82e_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5133822581_63586a5989_b.jpg

Id say Isis stuff is pretty legit.

[Future_gohan]

I run every arm on my car from isis, and I love them, none of them are froze, none make noise. I daily my car and have owned them for a year, the fronts have some mild rust on them but nothing crazy

[hellion240sx]

Wow, justy read through this whole thread and Ken is the man. Lol. So far based on thi thread these parts are legit. 1 in 1000 are pretty good odds. I think I will have to order a set (till I can afford Spl or Pbm). Looks like everyone who does have them abuse them and get their monies worth.

And they are self lubricating :)

[supramon808]

damn im sooo tempted to sell my yamato garage set to get a set of this...its been drift proven and customer service is really good...i might just do it lool

[trigjones]

Just ordered a set of rear suspension arms (RUCA, toe, and traction), already have Tein tension rods. Swapping out the tie rods up front for Tein, not sure what guy at Enjuku I talked to but major points to Ken for employing guys that really know their sh*t. And gave me an awesome deal on all the parts, will follow up with some comments after install.

Should have done this first off, now my tires are shot from running wide rims (17x10" RPF1's), stretched tires, and a 2" drop and neve got around to an alignment.

[HayaiSaru]

i bought the set earlier in the year. i had an issue with my traction rods. one of the mounting forks was not welded straight at all. talked to Ken and he sent me a new pair in a few days. besides that issue they are great arms for the price and i will always support enjuku because they will always help you when your not satisfied with your product.

heres what i was talking about with the fork.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/Punkindrublic843/IMG_0142.jpg


Is it me or the link on the right looks bent??

l

[hellion240sx]

Is it me or the link on the right looks bent??

l

no its you...

i bought the set earlier in the year. i had an issue with my traction rods. one of the mounting forks was not welded straight at all. talked to Ken and he sent me a new pair in a few days. besides that issue they are great arms for the price and i will always support enjuku because they will always help you when your not satisfied with your product.heres what i was talking about with the fork.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/Punkindrublic843/IMG_0142.jpg

[Swag240]

I bought a set of Isis basic coils and I hate the ride I am going to get the Megan track's

[drag113]

I bought a set of Isis basic coils and I hate the ride I am going to get the Megan track's

Lol good luck on speding 900 bones on an even stiffer ride

[Razi]

I bought a set of Isis basic coils and I hate the ride I am going to get the Megan track's
Doesn't sound like much of an upgrade.:mepoke:

With the money you're spending buying Isis and Megan coils, you probably could have bought a set of PBM/Fortune Auto/Stance coils.

[Sileighty_85]

I bought a set of Isis basic coils and I hate the ride I am going to get the Megan track's

So you properly preloaded them and corner balanced the chassis.

Or did you just do what ever noob does and slam it to the ground and preload the shit out of it to make it lower?

[redgreen240]

Just wanted to say Thanks again to Ken! Best Customer service I've seen in the car community yet!

-Randy

[roel03]

Looks like the same arms as these to me:

ADJUST PILLOW TENSION ROD ARM 89-94 NISSAN S13 SILVIA | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ADJUST-PILLOW-TENSION-ROD-ARM-89-94-NISSAN-S13-SILVIA-/120661446816?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c17fb90a0)


Except marked up in price.

[Sileighty_85]

Looks like the same arms as these to me:

ADJUST PILLOW TENSION ROD ARM 89-94 NISSAN S13 SILVIA | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ADJUST-PILLOW-TENSION-ROD-ARM-89-94-NISSAN-S13-SILVIA-/120661446816?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c17fb90a0)


Except marked up in price.

are they backed by a company that will replace them for free due to manufacture defect?

No?

Well the ISIS ones are.

So what if they "look like" ISIS arms there's only one way to design the tension arms....

[hellion240sx]

are they backed by a company that will replace them for free due to manufacture defect?

No?

Well the ISIS ones are.

So what if they "look like" ISIS arms there's only one way to design the tension arms....

REad this three times :)

[Sileighty_85]

REad this three times :)

I must still be drunk, i dont get it are you talking to me?

[roel03]

They even come with the same bags. Just saying, your paying for a company to throw a name out there. They don't only look like them, they are them.

There is not only one way to design a tension rod. Look at SPL or the other arms. Just because it bolts on, doesn't mean it's quality.

[hellion240sx]

I must still be drunk, i dont get it are you talking to me?

LOL. no was talking to roel03

[stricnynel0s]

just a side note, i run the ISIS arms on my s14 kouki, i did tail of dragon on them, with proper alignment, and so far they have been good, the heim joints have started to rust since i live in NJ we have lot of differant weather patterns and that could on contributed to the issue. But for the 350 i think i paid for them i have 0 complaints, i am looking into higher qual arms, and the price is almost 900 for them :( so i might stick with there for another season

[tqstarburst]

I've got the isis dual elec fans for over a year now.. Work just like when i bought them.

[BHack3tt]

Something you guys need to think about is something called "cost benefit analysis"

ISIS has never claimed to be the highest top end products on the market. However.......

We have sold almost 1000 ISIS Suspension arms. ZERO Failures. These are also on a Professional Formula Drift Car, numerous weekend drifters, plenty of street cars and doing great!!

By all means if someone wants Nasa quality welding I am sure we can find you a product to fit your needs. We sell everything from the highest end products down to some that are much lower than ISIS.

When ISIS came out we wanted to help them provide a quality product that withstands normal daily abuse and still be able to provide it at a GREAT PRICE.

I think ISIS does this hands down. I have been selling parts for over 10 years and ISIS is by far the best for the money in my personal oppinion.


If anyone has any more questions or comments please feel free to email me directly - [email protected]

Sincerely

Ken Harrison

Thumbs up to an owner of a company who takes the time to research feedback even on forums!!! I have put a lot of thought into your "cost/benefit analysis" that you speak of, and have ordered the ISIS suspension rod package.

Everyone would go buy the most expensive/best quality suspension parts if we could afford them. I personally am just looking for a reliable suspension setup for extremely minimal track and 95+% DD quality. I have not heard of any ISIS breakdowns either.

[hellion240sx]

just a side note, i run the ISIS arms on my s14 kouki, i did tail of dragon on them, with proper alignment, and so far they have been good, the heim joints have started to rust since i live in NJ we have lot of differant weather patterns and that could on contributed to the issue. But for the 350 i think i paid for them i have 0 complaints, i am looking into higher qual arms, and the price is almost 900 for them :( so i might stick with there for another season

If they survived the dragon, they are god lol. The dragon is no joke! yeah the salt in the winters are def a reson for rusting. Along with every car out there :/

[K_V3T]

It'd be cool to see if some of the people that bought these arms back in 2009 to chime back in and see if they lasted. They're metal arms I mean they're going to be great at first but I just want to know how they've made out to 2012.

[waxball88]

Been running with my ISIS stuff for a month or two now. The welds on my look great, powder is pretty good. Arms are holding up great.


Well here i am 1.5 years later of DAILY Driving. Still going strong no issues. Some MINOR creak on occasion.

[Sileighty_85]

Still holding up on my RB25 S14.

[HIGHFIVEBETA]

Mine are now blown. Had them for over a year. The shop i take my S14 too also reported blown setups for most that he has come through. I will attempt to follow up with a replacement or rebuild (whatever they offer)and see how their customer service goes. I'll keep this updated soon.

[Enjuku Racing]

Hitup where ever you bought them from and i am sure they can get something taken care of.

thanks
Ken

[Te37]

So then what’s the difference between the ebay suspension parts and the ISIS ones? I’m not dissing either product because I haven’t used them personally, but I see no visual difference. Now compare those two to a SPL arm. If money was not a question (I know I know don't bring up the fact that all 240 owners are cheap) would you rather have an SPL arm holding your wheel strait at 80 mph or an ISIS arm holding your wheel strait? You also need to think about long term use, if you have to go through two sets of isis arms because the bushings are going out and they keep rusting, wouldn’t you rather do it right the first time? Plus i dont see any locking alen bolts like spl's arms.

I think for tracking them the isis/ebay is fine. But if you daily your car you get a sense of confidence (at least I do) when you have beefy spl arms under your car.

It is always going to be a personal preference on what is better than the other. How are you going to write a review on something that all it does is screw in and out to align your wheel, especialy when you have only used it for a month or two?

[Enjuku Racing]

I agree with almost everything you are saying. The market demands the lower priced items. ISIS carries a warranty on their products and stands behind them, which is a HUGE difference between them and some other inexpensive ones sold. If money is no option.. hell yea, i will sell you SPL, Stance, or any brand you want. That's why we sell everything. With that said the ISIS arms, Circuit Sports, Megan, etc are the better selling arms than the higher end brands. That is just the market.

In 12 years of selling performance parts i have seen issues with just about EVERY BRAND out there. Weather it be suspension, exhaust parts, aero, High end and low end.

We use them on Pro FD cars to show they can handle the abuse and still a reasonable price. Its all about the money people have and are willing to spend on their cars.

To each his own, really

Ken

[HIGHFIVEBETA]

I was charged for "replacement cartridges" for my HR coilovers. $90 a side and was not elegible for no-cost replacement after the 1 year waranty since I bought them in late 2010 apparently(lost invoice. I forgot) Whether it's a good price or not it's at the user's discretion. I would rather use the money to buy a new set of BCs or Fortune Auto and I don't think they would blow in a year - 1.5 year time. Oh yeah and i bought them from Enjuku. Sorry I could not provide a good accurate review on warranty coverage. My road for ISIS coilovers ends here. My manifold and turbo elbow seem to be holding up fine though....

I did not like how the associate @ Enjuku tried to blame my swaying on the freeway on my tie rod ends though. Which is not even a symptom of shitty TR ends.. I went ahead and let him know that I replaced my whole rack and tie rod ends 2 months ago, which I did, so his claim was irrelevant. I swear dealing with warranty coverage nowadays is just as bad as dealing with insurance companies.. FML

[DRIFTER-M]

Interested to see if anybody has tried out the ISIS HR PRO Coilovers yet?

Looks to be pretty good bang for the buck, I mean the craftsmanship seems to have improved x10.

Anybody try them yet? Reviews?

[Enjuku Racing]

Interested to see if anybody has tried out the ISIS HR PRO Coilovers yet?

Looks to be pretty good bang for the buck, I mean the craftsmanship seems to have improved x10.

Anybody try them yet? Reviews?

I have seen a few review videos on youtube and i think there is one posted on ISIS Performance Products - Specializing in high quality products for the sport compact aftermarket - Welcome (http://www.isisperformance.com)

Yea, they seem to have stepped up the quality a ton on these.

We got some in and they sold like CRAZY! Faster than any other product i have ever seen.

[MrSanchez925]

What is the warranty for the isis 5lug hub conversion??

[Enjuku Racing]

What is the warranty for the isis 5lug hub conversion??

They have a 1 year warranty. As long as you dont smash the car into a wall they will take care of you.

[greenwood]

after reading this thread, I will be going spl arms :boink:

[Enjuku Racing]

after reading this thread, I will be going spl arms :boink:

Hit us up!! We sell a ton of SPL Arms!!

thanks
ken

[slydin240sx]

after reading this thread, I will be going spl arms :boink:

Love my SPL arms. Well worth every penny.

[Enjuku Racing]

Love my SPL arms. Well worth every penny.

SPLs is great stuff if you have the cash or can save up

SPL Parts Products - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/brands/SPL-Parts.html)

[gist864]

My question what is the difference between the circuit an ISIS arms

[Enjuku Racing]

My question what is the difference between the circuit an ISIS arms

They are both pretty similar from my experience. I think the ISIS might have slightly thicker rods. other than that its a color and price preference.

[gist864]

They are both pretty similar from my experience. I think the ISIS might have slightly thicker rods. other than that its a color and price preference.

Indeed thanks for being honest. You could have easily said the circuit was better due to the price. i will be ordering some parts as soon as the all mighty tax check comes lol.

[elnino335]

I just installed the isis arm pack about three weeks ago on my 91 240 and i live massachusetts and i can say that the car is sqeaking pretty loud on almost every bump now .... Later today ima get under and take a look at them

[ss008]

Whats up everyone! just got my Isis arms set in yesterday along with some other stuff from Enjuku. Sam's been really cool through the process so far. Just want to share some things.

These are the welds on the the RUCAs. I sent these pics to a dope welder and these were his comments.

"Looks like too much heat first off. If you look closely right next to the weld Bead there is undercut. It's a welding term. Means sign of too much heat. And some porosity in the weld must not of been 100percent clean when welded."

I'm waiting on a reply from Enjuku. Will update soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/ss008/CAM00536.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/ss008/CAM00535.jpg

[hellion240sx]

Yeah I think you need to give them a few weeks to settle In. Mine were squeaking pretty bad, after afew weeks not so much.

[ss008]

^...I doubt that 3 weeks of settling in will fix bad welds. Waiting to see if Enjuku will swap them for another set of Isis RUCAs or maybe some CS RUCAs

[ss008]

sorry hellion, thought you were talking about my post. haha

[hellion240sx]

Haha.oNo problem

[Enjuku Racing]

^...I doubt that 3 weeks of settling in will fix bad welds. Waiting to see if Enjuku will swap them for another set of Isis RUCAs or maybe some CS RUCAs

Yeah I think you need to give them a few weeks to settle In. Mine were squeaking pretty bad, after afew weeks not so much.


Please contact me at the shop and I will send out a replacement set.

- Sam 352-241-8399

[ss008]

Sam's the man! Sending a new set. Customer service is the reason I deal with Enjuku!

[elnino335]

Mine squeak every now and then just gotta spray some pb blaster on them

[Prok0]

The ISIS and other low cost arms do not have the self lubricating rod ends featured in some of the higher end arms like SPL which is why they will begin to make some noise if they are not cleaned and lubricated regularly.

That is most likely how they keep cost down and are able to sell the arms at the price point they do, as a nice Aurora rod ends in that sizing can be 50$+ just for the end.

[e1_griego]

That's why it's so great to get bv or spl arms which use SAE rod ends. Good 5/8" rod end from FK, QA-1, Aurora, etc., are half the price and readily available.

The metric auroras are $50+/ea, you're right.

[hellion240sx]

Please contact me at the shop and I will send out a replacement set.

- Sam 352-241-8399

I have to figure out which one is squeaking first.

[Salvarath]

Can someone get in here and give a review of the new isis PRO suspension arms?

[Gar9854]

Can someone get in here and give a review of the new isis PRO suspension arms?

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=567104

[Salvarath]

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=567104

Thanks man. I didn't realize there was a new thread