Why do people like lowering their cars on a daily?

[heavenskrow]

Okay so i was just reading http://zilvia.net/f/chat/218308-whats-most-damage-suffered-due-being-lowered-5.html

People scrape and break a crap load of stuff due to their cars being lowered.
ive never lowered my car before(but getting DMAX coilovers soon)

My friends tell me to lower the car....and its a daily but other then a little bit of looks and a little better handling, i dont get the point of being too low...
why would u want to risk denting ur oil pan or making a hole in ur exhaust?

[renegade_ewok]

I like driving a car that handles well on a daily basis. Its not stupid low but I don't have wheel gap either, but that doesn't mean its low beyond reason. You learn to drive with it and learn the limitations and you can drive anywhere. I used to dread driving into philly, but I figured it out.

[lflkajfj12123]

there is nothing uglier than wheel gap (stock ride height) on an automobile

[deolio]

it's not so much about the car being low to the ground as it is about having good fitment.

[GSXRJJordan]

there is nothing uglier than wheel gap (stock ride height) on an automobile

it's not so much about the car being low to the ground as it is about having good fitment.

^^^ Yup.

If you don't know yet, you just don't know.

Somebody said it yesterday, but "SAY NO TO WHEEL GAP IN '09" :)

[Rapier46]

hole in the exhaust sounds kewl.

[kevinphan]

Why do you even change parts out on your car?

[GSXRJJordan]

hole in the exhaust sounds kewl.

Having exhausts that fit above the frame rail came into fashion in '08, now all the cool kids are doing it. Get with the times :keke:

Scrape only aero and frame in '09.

[nismo240sxdrifter]

low looks good, and in my opinion once you figure out how to drive with it it looks good, but going to low will mess with you suspensions geometry a decent bit.

[heavenskrow]

okay thanks guys...i was always like............wth is the point in lowering...if im gonna have to suffer through speed bumps, dips........etc.and etc.
but im guessing saying F to wheel gap

[SoCal-s130]

I get so many looks each day daily driving my car ever day. Shits rad.

[articdragon192]

We go low because it looks awesome.

[Xbroke_kidX]

because shooting sparks on the freeway is the coolest thing ever duh....
untill a cop is behind you....

[ericcastro]

YOU WOULDNT HAVE TO STYLE YOUR HAIR AND stuff if you just shaved it with the 1" adapter all around every month...........



sorry for the caps, was playing SourceDOD

[ryguy]

I have my daily lowered 2.5 or so inches. At first I thought it was a bit of a pain scraping my exhaust everywhere. Then I put on some really aggressive aero. Couldn't drive anywhere. I swear, I had to reattach my aero every time I backed down a curb. There were places I could no longer visit because I couldn't drive there. Then my aero got completely ripped off and destroyed by a bump in the road, so I went back to stock, and now my lowered car doesn't seem so bad anymore.

[Chrischeezer]

is it me... or is there an epidemic of stupid questions going around on zilvia

[Nezahualcoyotl]

+1 for ugly stock ride hight especially if your rolling on aftermarket rims...
mine is lower than stock but still wanna go lil lower

[Sileighty_85]

We go low because it looks awesome.



Ridding the Roads of Reflectors 10 at a time.....

[5t341tH]

why drive a car stock?
go low or dont modify it with rims/kits
if u try to make the car look fixed up, u gotta lower it or its CRAP.
oh yea, like it was said above, its all about wheel fitment too.

[ixfxi]

it has to be lowered but useful, once you pass a certain point you run out of suspension travel and its just plain stupidity.


my motto is, your car needs to be setup hardcore. hardcore means, low but not too low where you cant LAUNCH the car in the fucking air and not worry about damaging your undercarriage.

hey kevin, remember that shit? haha

[jspecusa]

same reason why people raise trucks and don't even go offroading.
it's all about the looks.
just came to socal and you'll see nothing but poser cars.
body kit with black stamp steel, cars put together with ebay power,
and really really loud cars that don't go no where with full throttle.
cheers,

sam

[lflkajfj12123]

also...

lowers center of gravity so i can corner all sick on the way to the grocery store

[ryguy]

lowers center of gravity so i can corner all sick on the way to the grocery store

Amen brotha, hardparking ain't easy.

[bbejj123]

its a way of life =P...but basically its for looks and a little for handling haha

[zenki.life]

people make me wonder sometimes.....

[HyperTek]

some dudes here like it because its the latest trend.. some guys will super slam their cars just to fit in and find acceptance because they think its badass and have a rebel mind-state lmao

while others like it because of the handling characteristics of stiff coilovers and improved road feeling.

Guys with kits on their cars, you will realize their cars are not super slammed like some others, mostly the kit giving the appearance of super low. I set my car higher than what it once was, and am currently doing fine daily driving it super low.

With anything car modding, you will break stuff regardless. If this is something that worries you, than consider alternatives.

People with low cars + coilovers, seem to be more aware of their surroundings when they drive, you are more alert to whats ahead of you.

[lflkajfj12123]

how is lowering your car the latest trend?

that shits been around forever wtf hypertek

[HyperTek]

im talkin about the guys who buy used coilovers and slam em super low beyond their ideal design etc etc..

dropped 240s wasnt around in 2000 lmao
so its pretty fresh
some of us dont get wheel alignments

bahhh i guess im getting older and maturing out of the style lmao
imma go buy some whitewalls now

[lflkajfj12123]

i'm talking even further go way back to like the 70's s chassis isn't the only car scene

shit even my first post in this thread (a quote from ueno) was from like the 90's

[s13 @ fullboost]

haha When I decided to slam my car I had to drive everywhere to find an alighment shop that had a pit and not a rack. my front bumper would come off or my sub frame would get stuck so then I just raised it a tiny bit but bigger wheels on it so I wasnt stuiped low and have no fender gap once so ever. all i need now is someone to roll my front and roll and pull my rears so I can put my spacers on =]

[HyperTek]

i'm talking even further go way back to like the 70's s chassis isn't the only car scene

shit even my first post in this thread (a quote from ueno) was from like the 90's

its cool man, im kinda goin against what i say lol.. i like my cars low anyways.. i guess my current situation + age im growing out of super low if you only have 1 car as a daily... my car is startin to require more maintenance attention and im getting annoyed of all this lol

[lflkajfj12123]

its cool man, im kinda goin against what i say lol.. i like my cars low anyways.. i guess my current situation + age im growing out of super low if you only have 1 car as a daily... my car is startin to require more maintenance attention and im getting annoyed of all this lol

bring back the white s13 and i'll forgive you

:spank:

[I LUV MY S13]

because shooting sparks on the freeway is the coolest thing ever duh....
untill a cop is behind you....
yesss..all about the sparks

[drift_limo]

same reason why people raise trucks and don't even go offroading.
it's all about the looks.
just came to socal and you'll see nothing but poser cars.
body kit with black stamp steel, cars put together with ebay power,
and really really loud cars that don't go no where with full throttle.
cheers,

sam

:werd:
what he said...

[deukalionS14]

im actually waiting for my front bumper to get blown up so i can order a OEM S15 bumper and go lower. i have some fitment issues in the front hahaha oh n fenders rolled so i can put her down a little more too

[Silverbullet]

same reason why people raise trucks and don't even go offroading.
it's all about the looks.
just came to socal and you'll see nothing but poser cars.


you actually see that everywhere. :bash:

[Knuckles]

i'm talking even further go way back to like the 70's s chassis isn't the only car scene

shit even my first post in this thread (a quote from ueno) was from like the 90's

my dad use to always tell me about his lowriding days with all his Chevy Impalas being hella low, i just put my pbm coils on the s13,slam it and he see's it and says "fuck! now thats low" lol guess were the next generation lowriders lol

[randyjordan]

the lower you are the cooler you are..


i think..

[clark]

we lower it because stock 240 ride height looks like it's ready to go rock crawling.

[ms!3]

I get so many looks each day daily driving my car ever day. Shits rad.

Ha, thats pretty much the only reason I lowered my car so much. Other than it looking cool.

[BillWatcher]

Its style.... Why wear 80s high tops.... Cause its ones flavor and when done right with the car or even the high tops you wonder damn why does that look so good but its so damn redick....

[usdm180sx]

Because my 240 isn't my daily anymore :)

[KoukiMonsta]

cuz wheel gap is gay as fuhhhhhhhk

[s13skank]

Having exhausts that fit above the frame rail came into fashion in '08, now all the cool kids are doing it. Get with the times :keke:

Scrape only aero and frame in '09.


I 2nd that motion

[A54]

I do it so it is easier for me to get in & out of the car...
Na just kidding...
It is for the love...
Even if the last date i went on went like this.
I took her to dinner and when i pulled in the parking garage to park i set off a dozen car alarms before i pulled into a spot. I did not think my HKS exhaust was that loud. That's when she said "your car is 2 low, 2 loud and you drive 2 fast". oooo damm. Then she said, "it is embarrassing to ride in your car".
It must be for the love...
Because it is not helping me with the ladies

[heavenskrow]

I do it so it is easier for me to get in & out of the car...
Na just kidding...
It is for the love...
Even if the last date i went on went like this.
I took her to dinner and when i pulled in the parking garage to park i set off a dozen car alarms before i pulled into a spot. I did not think my HKS exhaust was that loud. That's when she said "your car is 2 low, 2 loud and you drive 2 fast". oooo damm. Then she said, "it is embarrassing to ride in your car".
It must be for the love...
Because it is not helping me with the ladies


lol...msg length

[DDDsquad_s13panda]

I do it so it is easier for me to get in & out of the car...
Na just kidding...
It is for the love...
Even if the last date i went on went like this.
I took her to dinner and when i pulled in the parking garage to park i set off a dozen car alarms before i pulled into a spot. I did not think my HKS exhaust was that loud. That's when she said "your car is 2 low, 2 loud and you drive 2 fast". oooo damm. Then she said, "it is embarrassing to ride in your car".
It must be for the love...
Because it is not helping me with the ladies


ouch that sucks.. maybe shes one of those high-class maintenance chick who only dates ballers with bimmers and not ballers with a nissan..

oh the other hand, ive had a few girls that didnt like my swag, but my current one loves my style. i actually got her into car and she decided to get a subaru then i swagged it real nice..

n e ways. nowaday, if your a tuner. its a must having slammed car, but only to the limit where it reaches its purpose. or else you'll fail miserably on a daily basis, but then agian its depends on the coils you get. my friend with a DA got some ebay coils, and he thinks its the coolest shit in the world tucking half his wheel in his wheel well and his car aint stiff at all but bouncy like a mofo...

end of story

[Spring Break '92]

Set yourself up with a suspension that WORKS. RS-R race springs/Koni Yellows.

[VROOOM]

Set yourself up with a suspension that WORKS. RS-R race springs/Koni Yellows.

but then you wouldnt be cool and no one would stare at you while you drive by.

[ManoNegra]

Why do people like lowering their cars on a daily?

Something called peer pressure, works wonders on the youth.

[Sileighty_DRFT89]

i don't daily my car anymore. so its all low or no go. I love scraping everywhere. idk why. just makes me smile, and I know I'm doing it right imo. I love tucking tire in the fender because wheel fitment is also key. I love people looking and giving me thumbs up at stop lights. and it amuses me when I have to take sick angles at driveways and people behind me get all mad and are like wtf is this guy doing?? and I love rolling up to gas stations and theres some guy with his ballin bimmer with lambo doors thinking he's all cool with his system bumpin' when my car rolls in scraping and blaring drowning out his stereo and he just looks at me in pure confusion and awe and all the attention goes away from him and people are like dang! (happened a few weeks ago lol) its a way of life that we all adore. so you either step up the plate and risk damaging stuff. or you don't. its personal preference in the end.

[BustedS13]

you know, the Nazis had coilovers they made the Jews wear.

[unlegendary]

because frame risers are available.

[GSXRJJordan]

Set yourself up with a suspension that WORKS. RS-R race springs/Koni Yellows.

This is actually a really good, under-rated suspension setup. 5k/4k I think, they're the stiffest of the "drop in" springs, and Koni Yellows are right in the middle of cheap coilover dampers and really nice 2/3/4 way adjustable stuff. Great starting track/autocross setup.

Problem is they're not height adjustable, so no one's gonna be talkin about em in this thread.

you know, the Nazis had coilovers they made the Jews wear.

HAHAHAHAHA :bowrofl:

[drftwerks]

i only like stupid low.


wtf is suspension travel?

is that cheaper than driving or flying?

[superbike81]

Lowered cars just look better, period. But once you get to a certain point, and have to start stretching tires and beating the hell out of your fenders and running crazy camber, you are ruining the function of those expensive coilovers, lightweight wheels, and nice tires.

Low is good, but TOO low is just as bad as not lowered at all.

[artdrifter]

Why do you even change parts out on your car?

hahaha right. why change the oil?

[cxlo8331]

i go low beacause the voice in my head says so.

and i have a daily.

[lflkajfj12123]

hahaha right. why change the oil?


ka's don't need oil changes

[Sideways~S14]

Its just a stupid trend. I don't disagree the lower it is the better it looks but Function>Form.

[Marcus]

i did it for the ladies. plus if you dont, the boogie man will live under your car.




i knew a guy that asked this same question. he never lowered his car.


three years later. bam. herpes

[DJPimpFlex]

I love how the new trend (new being the last 4 years, i'm old) is getting as low as possible with the biggest wheels as possible. LCA Angles and bump steer are drastically affected by lowering your car that much. Large wheels (18's and up) performance wise seem to be impractical. You cant fit any brake kid under a 18+ wheel that you can't fit under a 17" wheel, hell I run a nice set of 16's on my daily S13 (when I have one)

I just miss people moding there cars to drive them, not just for looks; but not only that, also understanding what the modifications do and weather they are improving anything.

[rocksteady_racer]

The only time I ever had problems with my dropped sentra (moderately dropped mind you (1.5" in the front none in the back)) is that Penn State Brandywine/Delaware county had these ridiculously high speed bumps, no matter if I crawled over them my frame would hit. But other than that I never had problems with that and I rather have a more nimble lower to the ground car than my current body roll.

[DeadlyZ33]

Why are people replying to this thread?

edit: crap I just did too.

[theronin]

ive been lowering my cars since before the OP was in 3rd grade... and i will continue to. why? because i can.

[lflkajfj12123]

Its just a stupid trend. I don't disagree the lower it is the better it looks but Function>Form.

retarded ass muthaaafuckkkerrrr

lowering your car is not a stupid trend

its apparent in all car cultures since the automobile has belonged to consumers

and fuck plus i guess f1 cars have no function whatsoever but they're lower than any silvia i know

[ESmorz]

Same reason people like candy or soft drinks.

They are by no means necessary to our diet and they may be detrimental to our health, but they are oh so good.

[joefresh]

my god.
i love candy.
anyone try the juice filled sour patch kids?
oh yea people lower there car to make them perform better and give them a little style. simple.

[EDacIouSX]

also...

lowers center of gravity so i can corner all sick on the way to the grocery store


lower center of gravity yes, but it creates issues with roll center.

[ayuaddict]

oh man.

i am so glad i don't have an S13 any more.

I dont know what it is but this shit is so stupid, no shit its not "good for performance" and it will hurt your vagina when you go over speed bumps, but thats the whole point.
18x12s - hella unsprung weight,
Aero in general - probably worse for aerodynamics,
being low - inconvienient and performance is sacrificed.

but oh man, it looks so good.

i have a perfectly functional grip performance oriented EK civic at the moment, although i can take corners (considerably) faster than with my previous S13, and i can pretty much go over every driveway or speedbump (and i have the spoon lip), I have yet to enjoy the car more than i did the S13.

all i know is, my Z is going as low as my S13, that performance shit is boring.

[renegade_ewok]

i have a perfectly functional grip performance oriented EK civic at the moment, although i can take corners (considerably) faster than with my previous S13, and i can pretty much go over every driveway or speedbump (and i have the spoon lip), I have yet to enjoy the car more than i did the S13.
Spoken like a true S chassis fanatic; I really don't know how I can enjoy a car more than I do now unless it gets more angle....

[articdragon192]

Here's a perfect way of laying it out. Hell, it helped a girl understand why we lower our cars so low.

Why do girls wear heels when they go out? They aren't comfortable at all. BUt they do it anyways. Why? Because heels make the legs of a girl look so much better. If a girl is hot, the heels just put her way over the top.

Same thing applies to cars and their low ride height.

[firelizard]

I have no idea why this thread didn't stop at "because it looks awesome"

To put into perspective: my car is 1 coloured roof and a set of wheels away from being bone stock looking. It's the fact that it's hella slammed that makes everybody look twice and get interested in the car.

[drift freaq]

im talkin about the guys who buy used coilovers and slam em super low beyond their ideal design etc etc..

dropped 240s wasnt around in 2000 lmao
so its pretty fresh
some of us dont get wheel alignments

bahhh i guess im getting older and maturing out of the style lmao
imma go buy some whitewalls now

Excuse me Austin but you show your ignorance with your age. You think just because people are slamming their cars now with coilovers that its something new and fresh. LOL you are such a youngster.

Dude people were dropping their 510's and 240z's back in the early 80's. They just did not have coilovers.
Instead they used shocks and lowering springs and if the springs did not lower it enough they cut them to drop it more.
It even got to the point where people would only cut the springs cold as to not affect the spring rate.
Was it ideal? No. Did it happen? Yes.

You fucking kids think you have invented something new with slamming your cars. Its not new, its been done before get over thinking you doing something new and fresh.

[usdm180sx]

Instead they used shocks and lowering springs and if the springs did not lower it enough they cut them to drop it more.
It even got to the point where people would only cut the springs cold as to not affect the spring rate.
Was it ideal? No. Did it happen? Yes.

Holy shit that's how I lowered my first 240 when I bought it new back in 1993

Suspension Techniques linear wound cut springs and tokico blues ftw

[Sileighty_85]

Because Tow-Mater does it

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/Misc/Mofify2.jpg

[ericcastro]

Why do girls wear heels when they go out? They aren't comfortable at all. BUt they do it anyways. Why? Because heels make the legs of a girl look so much better. If a girl is hot, the heels just put her way over the top.




Holy shit that's how I lowered my first 240 when I bought it new back in 1993

Suspension Techniques linear wound cut springs and tokico blues ftw

lol, you old mutha fucka!! lmao!!!

I was cutting my first springs on a bug in 1992.
Cut my Datsun 510 springs so low in 96, I was tucking over 3" of rim in the rear on 15's !!!!! LMAO!!

fucking VIP 4door datsun 510 before the trend!!
Im gonna find pics of that for ya norm, when i head home this summer. your gonna laugh your ass off!

[superbike81]

and fuck plus i guess f1 cars have no function whatsoever but they're lower than any silvia i know

Worst argument EVER. :keke:

Did you seriously just compare a Silvia slammed to the ground on 18x12 -15 with 235's and 3" of actual contact patch (or hell, ANY Silvia for that matter) to a Formula 1 car?

[SochBAT]

I used to love picking up roadkill with my lowered car.

Now i hit birds with it.

Stock rideheight FTW.

[lflkajfj12123]

Worst argument EVER. :keke:

Did you seriously just compare a Silvia slammed to the ground on 18x12 -15 with 235's and 3" of actual contact patch (or hell, ANY Silvia for that matter) to a Formula 1 car?

no i said the fact that lowered f1 cars still function 100%

lower does not mean worse in terms of science

[gotspins13]

my coupe is dumped on se's that are flush as fuck, cant even fit paper is there! looks sexy=]

[superbike81]

F1 cars aren't "lowered", the car is designed from scratch at that height. Also, when a height adjustment is made, there is a team of professionals with a huge budget to make sure it's performing it's best.

[JDMSTYLE]

F1 cars aren't "lowered", the car is designed from scratch at that height. Also, when a height adjustment is made, there is a team of professionals with a huge budget to make sure it's performing it's best.
its still low ;)

[r6_240sx]

So it's easier for my dog to do this
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u313/t0rmax/roll.gif
no i said the fact that lowered f1 cars still function 100% :naw:

[shinobis13hb]

well recently i lowered my car a little more.. my c-overs were as stiff as they could go.. and i realized it was soo stiff .. so i let then go a little for a softer ride. only thing i could advise you .. find what you like .. but like everyone said and i know too. wheel gap

[superbike81]

http://blog-imgs-31.fc2.com/h/e/a/heavenstrain/Xanavi_Nismo_350_Z_JGTC_by_dangeruss22.jpg

OH NO! LOOK AT ALL THE WHEEL GAP! Man, that guy is totally not flush, I mean, his tires don't stick out past the fenders at all! His offsets are weak! Where's the tire stretch? He can't even fit a business card in between the wheel and the tire!

Man, that car looks terrible! (at least by popular Zilvia standards)

Function over form.

[SoCal-s130]

That is a horrible choice to try to put us down.

[Felipe]

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u313/t0rmax/roll.gif



LMAO! sadgfpjgpfgfggf


oh yeah... beacuse its "PIMPIN"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/DatsunLowrider.jpg

[shinobis13hb]

just close this thread hahah its getting redungulouss

[ayuaddict]

yea because the 240sx is a JGTC car.

its an imported sport compact car that looks and performs slightly better than the average car (at the time lol).

so lets make them look crazy cool and leave the actual performance to race cars and shit.

...seriously, come on.

[ryguy]

I'd like to see that JGTC Z go any lower regardless. That aero is like .5 inches off the ground.

[SimpleSexy180]

the fuck is going on in here?

1. Being low with stock or ugly wheels doesnt count for beind rad.
2. i love it.

Here's a perfect way of laying it out. Hell, it helped a girl understand why we lower our cars so low.

Why do girls wear heels when they go out? They aren't comfortable at all. BUt they do it anyways. Why? Because heels make the legs of a girl look so much better. If a girl is hot, the heels just put her way over the top.

Same thing applies to cars and their low ride height.

^good comparison

[Touge Noob S13]

same reason why people raise trucks and don't even go offroading.
it's all about the looks.



Lifted trucks look like shit though.

[firelizard]

Look at this ricer:
http://www.netlaputa.ne.jp/~haha/lantische/field/h_jtcc_leftside.jpg
Clearly doesn't know what he's doing.

The function has less to do with ride height, and more to do with control arm angle. And since you can solve the roll center issue on S-chassis now, with aftermarket parts, or just have a hella stiff suspension to compensate, points of performance are more moot than ever.

[BillWatcher]

I love how the new trend (new being the last 4 years, i'm old) is getting as low as possible with the biggest wheels as possible. LCA Angles and bump steer are drastically affected by lowering your car that much. Large wheels (18's and up) performance wise seem to be impractical. You cant fit any brake kid under a 18+ wheel that you can't fit under a 17" wheel, hell I run a nice set of 16's on my daily S13 (when I have one)

I just miss people moding there cars to drive them, not just for looks; but not only that, also understanding what the modifications do and weather they are improving anything.


What are you going to say to the guys that do have there car pointlessly low with retarded sized wheels and drive harder than you? There are the hard parkers and there are the people that will track there car with out touching there setup and it will scrape sideskirts and there nuts all the way around the track. Ala VRT just as an example "slide alliance" I think his name is with the 7s.

silly goose
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/wfwalker/Picture027.jpg

[mrflip69]

If it's just for looks, why do you guys put down civics with airbags so much? Fuck scraping rails, it's all about being immobile! Now you're going to talk practicality? LOL. Shitty double standards.

And putting off the 240sx as a budget coupe (although it is...) is such a fucking cop out. STS, SCCA, whatever... look at JRho's build, his car isn't dumped retardedly. Posers indeed.

http://www.chanconsult.com/j_rho/profile1.jpg

OH NO! LOOK AT ALL THE WHEEL GAP! Man, that guy is totally not flush, I mean, his tires don't stick out past the fenders at all! His offsets are weak! Where's the tire stretch? He can't even fit a business card in between the wheel and the tire!

Man, that car looks terrible! (at least by popular Zilvia standards)

Function over form.

Fixed :)

[VROOOM]

What are you going to say to the guys that do have there car pointlessly low with retarded sized wheels and drive harder than you? There are the hard parkers and there are the people that will track there car with out touching there setup and it will scrape sideskirts and there nuts all the way around the track. Ala VRT just as an example "slide alliance" I think his name is with the 7s.

silly goose
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/wfwalker/Picture027.jpg

if i saw that car drive by me i would laugh. it looks stupid.

[hOngsterr]

my car's low with stock SE rims but u can still see a gap it's about 4 finger gap lol, but i dont wanna slam it more cuz its literally low already but for the gap to disappear it'd be frame scraping and i'd be stuck at occ parking speed bumps lol.

i cant complain i still scrape but its due to my set-up

stock 15" SE rims on 195/50/15
lowered idk how u measure it but im running on
AGX and ground control springs lol.

[Enna]

i did it for the ladies. plus if you dont, the boogie man will live under your car. i knew a guy that asked this same question. he never lowered his car.


three years later. bam. herpes

This shit had me crying lol.

[soreballz]

stock 15" SE rims on 195/50/15
lowered idk how u measure it but im running on
AGX and ground control springs lol.
You're running the wrong tire size. Put the proper tire on it (205/55/15) and the gap will be much smaller.

[PacificDrift_Nick]

i don't daily my car anymore. so its all low or no go. I love scraping everywhere. idk why. just makes me smile, and I know I'm doing it right imo. I love tucking tire in the fender because wheel fitment is also key. I love people looking and giving me thumbs up at stop lights. and it amuses me when I have to take sick angles at driveways and people behind me get all mad and are like wtf is this guy doing?? and I love rolling up to gas stations and theres some guy with his ballin bimmer with lambo doors thinking he's all cool with his system bumpin' when my car rolls in scraping and blaring drowning out his stereo and he just looks at me in pure confusion and awe and all the attention goes away from him and people are like dang! (happened a few weeks ago lol) its a way of life that we all adore. so you either step up the plate and risk damaging stuff. or you don't. its personal preference in the end.

lol so true man!!!! thats why im low

Here's a perfect way of laying it out. Hell, it helped a girl understand why we lower our cars so low.

Why do girls wear heels when they go out? They aren't comfortable at all. BUt they do it anyways. Why? Because heels make the legs of a girl look so much better. If a girl is hot, the heels just put her way over the top.

Same thing applies to cars and their low ride height.

great comparison



plus i dont want herpes

[ManoNegra]

I'ma go lower my car some more so it can perform like an F1 car... for serious

[thesimpleS13]

i lowered my car because it looks good plus i think it's fun seeing the underside of every car in front of me n_n

[BustedS13]

What are you going to say to the guys that do have there car pointlessly low with retarded sized wheels and drive harder than you? There are the hard parkers and there are the people that will track there car with out touching there setup and it will scrape sideskirts and there nuts all the way around the track. Ala VRT just as an example "slide alliance" I think his name is with the 7s.

silly goose
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/wfwalker/Picture027.jpg

you sound fucking retarded, and that car looks like fucking shit. somebody with absolutely no sense drives that.

[Howlermonkey]

While many are bouncing along on bump stops with horrible scrub from bad suspension geometery, they end up getting passed by a car on 225/50-14s that pulls 1.0g on the skidpad in butter smooth comfort.

There is no shame worse than being volvowned.

http://www.kwyjibo.com/ispeed/sccaschool98/sss98220.jpg

Well......yes there is.

This car laps as fast as a stock dodge viper.

http://www.kwyjibo.com/ispeed/sccaschool98/sss98210.jpg

[s13tilldeath*]

Because it is rad as fuck.

Your whip just looks ugly if its 4x4. I dont really have a reason it is just what i do.
PERIOD

[BustedS13]

Because it is rad as fuck.

Your whip just looks ugly if its 4x4. I dont really have a reason it is just what i do.
PERIOD

is that a Hollywood Undead quote in your signature? :barf:

[Sileighty_DRFT89]

you sound fucking retarded, and that car looks like fucking shit. somebody with absolutely no sense drives that.

^^that height holds it down. props!!

lets see your can man lol

[n1smo413]

if you can really drive your car you say fuck function over form and drive your car slammed and awesome.

[kognition]

Not lowered, your car currently looks kinda like this
http://www.mssu.edu/art/sweden05gallery/images/High%20Water%20Pants.jpg


Lowered, it will look like this.... kind of. roflmao :D
http://www.ynadamasfilm.com/home/images/stories/suspect/suspect2.jpg

[cali_love]

^ lol the more lower the more gangsta you are... the more stock hieght the more gay u r

[laoxguy]

haha i think its funny to see how ppl compare and relate lowering ur car on this thread

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

OH NO! LOOK AT ALL THE WHEEL GAP! Man, that guy is totally not flush, I mean, his tires don't stick out past the fenders at all! His offsets are weak! Where's the tire stretch? He can't even fit a business card in between the wheel and the tire!

Man, that car looks terrible! (at least by popular Zilvia standards)

Function over form.

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/01/ferrari_f2008.jpg

look at those guys and their stupid car with stretched tires. so lame. and they even got their picture taken with it. i wouldn't even want to be seen with it.

http://www.tuningfever.fr/pics-med-14974-330950-1997-nissan-primera-btcc.jpg

or how about this ricer and his tucked 18's. there's no way they could ever with the BTCC drivers and manufacturer's championship with it.

[ayuaddict]

im just curious.

that primera looking thing.

does it have the stock suspension mounting locations?

it looks pretty stock...(i mean like not tubeframed and shit).

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

^^^ here's an engine shot. it's pretty close to stock location, if it isn't.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/17/21341031_5d54c41e04_b.jpg

[Felipe]

Not lowered, your car currently looks kinda like this
http://www.mssu.edu/art/sweden05gallery/images/High%20Water%20Pants.jpg


Lowered, it will look like this.... kind of. roflmao :D
http://www.ynadamasfilm.com/home/images/stories/suspect/suspect2.jpg


LMAO!!! :bowrofl:

[ericcastro]

1997, lowered and primer black :)
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_0002_r1.jpg

BTW, worked with the dude on the left. ^
pretty cool bunch of dudes just trying to get out of the ghetto and find something they can do since they are covered in tats and are scary as shit till you talk to em.

[s13boy89]

they like it low plain and simple i dailed with a lowered car till i had to get rid of my coils i needed power lolhttp://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp70/mrftby89/l_89328849108c45258e44389a243a8cc3.jpg it broke from drift accidents not dd'ing

[Howlermonkey]

Now I understand why I never see slammed cars on the dyno.

1. Form over function = no hp.

2. They won't make it on the dyno without bottoming out and breaking something off.

3. The suspension settings are so bad the car hunts from side to side causing the dyno operator to toss the car from the shop.

Slammed cars are cool looking but don't let anybody tell you they did it for handling.

Now the guys who slame the car and swape engines are the real badasses who will pope your arm if you don't respect.

[ZX88]

lol i bought a daily driver but i still end up driving my 240 around more lol.

lower is always better

[ericcastro]

Now I understand why I never see slammed cars on the dyno.

1. Form over function = no hp.

2. They won't make it on the dyno without bottoming out and breaking something off.

3. The suspension settings are so bad the car hunts from side to side causing the dyno operator to toss the car from the shop.

Slammed cars are cool looking but don't let anybody tell you they did it for handling.

Now the guys who slame the car and swape engines are the real badasses who will pope your arm if you don't respect.


I dont even know what you said???????????????????

let me try and comunicate with you.

I didnte understande whate youe saide........?e

[drift freaq]

Now I understand why I never see slammed cars on the dyno.

1. Form over function = no hp.

2. They won't make it on the dyno without bottoming out and breaking something off.

3. The suspension settings are so bad the car hunts from side to side causing the dyno operator to toss the car from the shop.

Slammed cars are cool looking but don't let anybody tell you they did it for handling.

Now the guys who slame the car and swape engines are the real badasses who will pope your arm if you don't respect.


Ah, learn proper English. Then we might be able to understand what the fuck you are trying to say.

Otherwise? You are some smart ass idiot noob. Who happens to think he is schooling people, but his bad English and spelling owns him.

[BustedS13]

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/01/ferrari_f2008.jpg

look at those guys and their stupid car with stretched tires. so lame. and they even got their picture taken with it. i wouldn't even want to be seen with it.



what a couple of fucking nerds, talk about not flush. infinity wheel gap!

how could you drive a car without fenders to destroy by bouncing your rimz into them?

[samms95s14se]

I do think cars look good dumped when parked at a show! But driving around for me dumped is not comfortable. Here is a picture of Tanner Foust 350z notice the ride height and wheel fitment and this guys a proven winner! So basically what ever your purpose is for your car is what your going to put your ride height at wether your a professional racer or a hard parker or a drive through town guy.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/samms95s14se/sema-2007-full-09.jpg

[SimpleSexy180]

what?

Comparing WWE cars, i mean FD/D1 cars to ours is ridiculous.

You lower cars for looks. drifting a bad ass looking car makes you feel like your cock is 12 inches.

[ayuaddict]

woah.

yea, the "higher up" you go in the "sport" of drifting, the uglier cars you will see.

well, for the most part.

[Howlermonkey]

Ah, learn proper English. Then we might be able to understand what the fuck you are trying to say.

Otherwise? You are some smart ass idiot noob. Who happens to think he is schooling people, but his bad English and spelling owns him.

You are welcome to bring your car to the dyno where I work and quiz me in person to see for yourself whether I am a noob or a smartass.

I'll pay your run if you show up.

I was wrenching as a nissan master technician on S13s when they were new.

[soreballz]

^Wow, your grammar improved a lot with that post. Good job.

[murda-c]

You are welcome to bring your car to the dyno where I work and quiz me in person to see for yourself whether I am a noob or a smartass.

I'll pay your run if you show up.

I was wrenching as a nissan master technician on S13s when they were new.


All a high dyno run means is you have the money to pay someone to modify your motor.

Just like all a slammed car means is you had access to coilovers and a big fucking hammer.

Stop comparing dick sizes, you guys are all tiny anyway.

[Howlermonkey]

There never was a grammar infraction in my posts......only a spelling joke that was lost on the vagisil users who obviously have slammed cars and rue the day they lost most of the car's functionality for the sake of looks.

Soreballz ran the two words "a" and "lot" into a single word and his second sentence was missing enough to make it an incomplete sentence.

[murda-c]

There never was a grammar infraction in my posts......only a spelling joke that was lost on the vagisil users who obviously have slammed cars and rue the day they lost most of the car's functionality for the sake of looks.

Soreballz ran the two words "a" and "lot" into a single word and his second sentence was missing enough to make it an incomplete sentence.


How exactly do you pay a run?

Do you give the run the cash upfront?

[soreballz]

Soreballz ran the two words "a" and "lot" into a single word and his second sentence was missing enough to make it an incomplete sentence.
You got me on the first part, but technically, "good job" is still a complete sentence, much like "fuck you" is a complete sentence.

:wan:

[ESmorz]

Sally sells sea shells by the sea shore.

[yeti303]

what?

You lower cars for looks. drifting a bad ass looking car makes you feel like your cock is 12 inches.


so true....i slammed mine and my dick grew 12 inches..it was insane lol....
anyways..i think its alot of how drifters are..they wana show off...be loud and aggressive and make there cars like them..
i slammed my car becasue i like to feel the road like a racecar lol....this is my 13 on dmax coilovers...im pretty happy with it.....
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300084-1.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300118.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300119.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3130313.jpg

[Howlermonkey]

How exactly do you pay a run?

Do you give the run the cash upfront?

You have to show up for that to happen.........which means it won't happen.

I have access to a dyno where I work on Ford GTs.

Here's the one I am building a custom shifter position sensor that will allow a different level of boost for each gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzVW7K9DESU

I'm the six foot five goofy guy in the toyota uniform at the end.


I should have known better than to criticize slammed cars in a silvia forum.

It would have gone over a lot better at the improved touring forums or at hybridz.

I could keep my opinions to myself from now on but "my opinions" would also include the diagnostic and technical help I offer here which could deprive a fellow silvia member from the information he seeks.

[firelizard]

I do think cars look good dumped when parked at a show! But driving around for me dumped is not comfortable. Here is a picture of Tanner Foust 350z notice the ride height and wheel fitment and this guys a proven winner! So basically what ever your purpose is for your car is what your going to put your ride height at wether your a professional racer or a hard parker or a drive through town guy.



Yeah, but Matt Powers.
You're right, except Haraguchi.
Bingo, but wait, Zero Sports Time Attack Impreza.

People who think being low automatically means the car is crippled either aren't doing it right, or haven't done it at all.

[drift freaq]

You are welcome to bring your car to the dyno where I work and quiz me in person to see for yourself whether I am a noob or a smartass.

I'll pay your run if you show up.

I was wrenching as a nissan master technician on S13s when they were new.

LOL still using bad english I see. Typical Floridian(no offense AJ you are not typical) LOL. I am in California idiot. Oh and I was building 240z's, when you were a paperboy.

[Sileighty_85]

Now I understand why I never see slammed cars on the dyno.

1. Form over function = no hp.

2. They won't make it on the dyno without bottoming out and breaking something off.

3. The suspension settings are so bad the car hunts from side to side causing the dyno operator to toss the car from the shop.

Slammed cars are cool looking but don't let anybody tell you they did it for handling.

Now the guys who slame the car and swape engines are the real badasses who will pope your arm if you don't respect.


I never had a problem with getting my car on a dyno

Ive been on both a floor dyno and a lift dyno No issues all i had to do is cut a few zip ties and problem solved

My car never hunted either, 4 Ratchet tie downs take care of that.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/PIC-0318.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/DSC03446.jpg

[s13tilldeath*]

You have to show up for that to happen.........which means it won't happen.

I have access to a dyno where I work on Ford GTs.

Here's the one I am building a custom shifter position sensor that will allow a different level of boost for each gear.

YouTube - performance power ttgt flyby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzVW7K9DESU)

I'm the six foot five goofy guy in the toyota uniform at the end.


I should have known better than to criticize slammed cars in a silvia forum.

It would have gone over a lot better at the improved touring forums or at hybridz.

I could keep my opinions to myself from now on but "my opinions" would also include the diagnostic and technical help I offer here which could deprive a fellow silvia member from the information he seeks.
You have to be the cockiest person i have ever heard. Name drop much?

I could care less that you work on ford GTs but if it helps you feel better about your self then go ahead.

I really dont care if your car is slammed or sky high either. That is how i like mine but to each his own.

OH and it is zilvia not "silvia".

[jdmpignose]

being low looks good and i hate wheel gap

[heavenskrow]

now i read everyones response i am never gonna lower it to what most 240 guys.
sorry im not jumping on the bandwagon
FUNCTION>FORM
ill lower it but no crazy shit. its my daily

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

so, according to this thread:

a daily driven car needs to have race car suspension geometry so that it can be driven to the dyno.


<3 zilvia.

[ZenkiMR_S]

YouTube - Doriten Vol.5 Haruguchi Driftmasters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPGOaG_doQw)
enough said

[CrimsonRockett]

Stupid low cars are cool.

I mean, you drop panties, have to get massive angle on every single driveway, scrape over the smallest speed bumps, and throw sparks on the freeway because that fucking dip came outta nowhere!

What's not to love.

[mangoes]

HAHA

+ the awesome sharp sound of tires rubbing / scraping your fenders is a good way to keep yourself awake on a late night drive =D.

not only does a super low car look good, its good for safety too!!!

[Nezahualcoyotl]

dam the more i look at my car the more i wanna lower it....


http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x24/darkless001/240SX.jpg

but i think it looks good...

[zenki.life]

Stupid low cars are cool.

I mean, you drop panties, have to get massive angle on every single driveway, scrape over the smallest speed bumps, and throw sparks on the freeway because that fucking dip came outta nowhere!

What's not to love.

:ddog: very well put, and great imagery, lol. made me laugh

[lflkajfj12123]

Yeah, but Matt Powers.
You're right, except Haruguchi.
Bingo, but wait, Zero Sports Time Attack Impreza.

People who think being low automatically means the car is crippled either aren't doing it right, or haven't done it at all.

fixed that for ya

[FaLKoN240]

now i read everyones response i am never gonna lower it to what most 240 guys.
sorry im not jumping on the bandwagon
FUNCTION>FORM
ill lower it but no crazy shit. its my daily

There is no bandwagon.

Once you lower your car to where you think it's reasonable, you're going to want to lower it more.

Everyone gets to that point.

[Felipe]

dang... this thing is still going strong... lol

[firelizard]

fixed that for ya

Thanks, I seem to always get it wrong for some reason.

[Howlermonkey]

OK.........I have no problems with lowered cars as long as you aren't sitting on the bump stops and have some useful suspension travel.

[Solidus311]

I had 2 cars. But some jackass hit my DD while it was parked on the street and totaled it. I was happy to get rid of a few bills, but not happy to drive my "race car" all the time. A lowered car that breaks every 2 weeks. But my car is not stupid low as some people here put it. It's all about managing what you have. If you see a speed bump, or a steep incline, either avoid it, or go about it in a while that won't make your oil pan explode.

[SoCal-s130]

so true....i slammed mine and my dick grew 12 inches..it was insane lol....
anyways..i think its alot of how drifters are..they wana show off...be loud and aggressive and make there cars like them..
i slammed my car becasue i like to feel the road like a racecar lol....this is my 13 on dmax coilovers...im pretty happy with it.....

Bro your car sucks. Get some real wheels and lower it some more.

[s13tilldeath*]

so, according to this thread:

a daily driven car needs to have race car suspension geometry so that it can be driven to the dyno.


<3 zilvia.
well put. lol

[SimpleSexy180]

this thread is bringing me back to zilvia. XD